Dean: Minorities Don't Do As Well In The White Republican Party
Was this a Freudian slip, or a deliberate insult?
In an interview on NPR today, Howard Dean was asked about the increasing minority populations in the country, and he predicted it would bode well for the Democrats.
"If you look at folks of color, even women, they're more successful in the Democratic Party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in the (chuckles) Republican Party, because we just give more opportunity to folks who are hard-working people who are immigrants and come from members of minority groups."
RNC chairman Mike Duncan was quick to respond in a statement tonight: "Howard Dean's comments on race and gender today are disappointing and wrong. His efforts to divide Americans are an insult to all our nation's citizens and have absolutely no place in the national dialogue."
We think it was a Freudian slip -- though Dean didn't seem too embarrassed about it. The interview can be heard here, with the apparent gaffe at shortly after the seven-minute mark.
Late Update: DNC press secretary Stacie Paxton has responded in an e-mail to Election Central: "He misspoke and corrected himself immediately."















Keep Dean away from the microphones. He's a loose cannon. Obama loses if race becomes a dominant issue in this GE.
August 15, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
ditto.
Howard Dean has said this on many other occasions and i cringe every time he says it. Lets not make race an issue, please
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August 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
That looks like one sexy party full of H.O.T.T. PUMA action if you know what I'm sayin'.
August 16, 2008 8:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nah. If everybody not "white" (e.g. Hispanics) votes Democratic, the Republicans just lose. Republicans are the "white" party. That's simple truth. It should be recognized.
August 16, 2008 12:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
O get real - this is no big deal. It's amusing, actually. It's one of those "happy accidents."
I wish it would lead to talking heads discussing the thing -
August 16, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with you. Umm.....it's wrong because why? It's true?
August 16, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Certainly the republican party is always trying to get the few minorities it does have into top spots. It's interesting how they bash Affirmative Action, yet clearly see value in having diversity.
Their real problem is that minorities just don't seem to interested in their party.
August 15, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Howard Dean. Saying it like it is.
August 15, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
While he's saying it as it is...dude. Not helping.
August 15, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
They have Malkin. We have millions.
August 15, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damnit, Howard!
Why don't you just scream again and get it over with.
What a stupid, stupid, stupid thing to say.
August 15, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stupid, but true. J.C. Watts basically said the same thing when he was being interviewed that the Republican Party isnt very welcoming to minorities.
If the US responded to the crisis in Dafur or Sudan with the same energy, quickness and fervor they did to Georgia-Russia conflict, thousands of lives would have been saved. When whites attack each other its a "conflict" and when blacks do it is ethnic cleansing.
August 15, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or there is A] a pretty important oil pipeline in Georgia and B] Get to stick it to Russia
August 15, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is plenty of oil in Sudan, why do you think the Chinese are supplying the government?
August 16, 2008 12:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, crap...
August 15, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's patently obvious that the white, er, hard-working, er, Republican Party is full of hard-working Americans, white Americans, and I resent anyone suggesting otherwise.
August 15, 2008 11:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
...Ouch. This is gonna balloon out of control. The MSM is gonna jump on this, and the narrative for the next week is going to be on race, once again, instead of the issues.
Hey, I like Dean. A lot. He does tell it like it is, and who knows why he said it and whether he was a Freudian slip or not (it certainly seemed like it). But you gotta think before you speak about these things, and this time, Dean just didn't. ...sigh.
It's just depressing that we can't get the narrative back onto what really matters. Obama needs to, as soon as he gets back, start shaping the narrative around domestic issues, especially health care. People respond to that. It's already laid out on the table. All Obama needs to do is start the contrasting. And with health care, the contrast is drastic.
August 15, 2008 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
ITA, Chrono. This is something that Clinton (Bill not Hill) was expert at. No one could do the "I feel your pain" populist BS better than him.
Obama should be out there every day with targeted economic messages. Healthcare. Tax cuts for the lower and middle class. Increased funding for college grants. And why the fuck isn't he talking about social security? I don't know of any senior who wants their benefits to be cut. Florida is the oldest state and should be reliably blue every election.
Instead, Obama and his team want to continually engage McCain on foreign affairs. Thank God he was on vacation this week because if he wasn't we'd be hearing about the two bicker back and forth on Georgia nonstop.
August 16, 2008 12:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
My hope is that, now that Obama's had a week to clear his mind, body and soul, perhaps he can get back up to speed and beat the political daylights out of McCain and his rotten campaign.
My hope is that this Saturday conference with McCain and Obama will bring things back on track. If Rick Warren really does what he's promised to, it should. Hopefully he won't take the low road.
August 16, 2008 1:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has said he doesn't want to 'cede that ground'.
And anyway, the election isn't going to be decided by TV ads and whatnot. Obama is hitting McCain on economic issues in a targeted, localized way. It's a smart move.
August 16, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Howard Dean was only saying what minority republicans have been saying quite some time about their own party. The fact is the republicans have done a piss-pore bringing minorities into their party.
August 15, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
correction:
Howard Dean was only saying what minority republicans have been saying for quite some time about their own party. The fact is the republicans have done a piss-pore job bringing minorities into their party.
August 16, 2008 12:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who do you think this will actually blow back against? Certainly not minorities. Certainly not women. Certainly not left-leaning moderate white people. The only people enraged by this will be right-leaning whites - people who do not vote dem anyway.
The right can blow smoke about this, but what can they say? "Howard Dean said Republicans don't care about black people"? Come on folks. This isn't injecting race, and only wonks will care.
August 16, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM won't even bring it up since it appeared to be a slip.
Tomorrow is the Faith Forum which is what the media will focus on and then it will about Obama's VP choice.
August 16, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're actually quite right. But with the MSM, one never knows. ...With the McCain camp., one never knows, either.
August 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too late. Apparently Fox was all over this.
Oh, wait ... you said mainstream media! ;-)
August 16, 2008 12:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or course Fox will go all over this.
What they gonna do? Cover news?
They're are Fox, damn it.
August 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oops. Bad writing. Sorry there.
August 16, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I don't think this will be that big a deal. Too much will be going on next week.
August 16, 2008 12:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure Howard really menat to say, "... the wrinkly-white-haired-guy party..."
Damn him playing the hair card.
August 16, 2008 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
FOX is in its own world.
CNN didn't mention it at all. They were still focused on Russia/Georgia, the VP choices, and the Faith Forum.
MSNBC the same once they took a break from the Olympics.
Again tomorrow will be all about Faith and politics. Sunday will be about Vice Presidential contenders going at each other in the morning shows.
Since Obama didn't say it, I doubt the MSM will talk about it if at all.
August 16, 2008 12:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
So McCain can say that the Georgia crisis is the first international crisis since the end of the cold war...
He can refer to Czechoslovakia, which has not existed for about 20 years....
He can say that Gitmo is a wonderful place to live...
He says the US doesn't torture and then he votes to allow it...
He says he is in favor of alternate energy sources, but has not voted for it, being absent more than any other senator during crucial votes (and saying point blank that he has never missed a crucial vote)...
He can say that nations don't invade other nations in the 21st century...
and hundreds of other stupid things, and never gets called on any of them...
But Dean calls the GOP "white" and it's time to call in the thought police?
Give me a break!
August 16, 2008 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well McCain did say that we all are Georgians!
August 16, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fox is already on this like white on rice.
They had Geraldine Ferraro (yes, I know) on Hannity and Colmes to comment. Needless to say, she was concern trolling hardcore. "Needless to say, Sean, this will not play well to the working class of Pennsylvania and Ohio that the party is trying to reach."
August 16, 2008 12:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
How many times can I say needless to say in one post? Let's count!
August 16, 2008 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Earlier this year, the lunatic fringe on Faux Noise declared Obama "finished" when he referred to his grandmother as acting like a typical white person.
They so want to be racial victims, ya know?
This too will pass.
August 16, 2008 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hannity also said Obama might have to resign from the Senate during the Wright business. He's a very silly man.
August 16, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good grief, truth and falsehood aren't synonymns.
Dean told the truth and then backtracked in an effort to be polite. Well, I'm not polite on this.
The GOP has won national elections because of their "base" found in the Old South and consisting almost entirely of white faces. They added in other folks who actually thought the GOP meant it when they said they were against government waste.
The GOP track record is a disaster. Their "flood up, trickle down" economics has been implemented and now the middle class is damned disappearing. The GOP damages our economic standing by pushing our national debt up--apparently so Democrats cannot get into power and actually solve our damned problems since they are so busy trying to get our budget and spending under control.
I detest the current GOP--and they are the party of white, wealth oligarchs who need to fade into our history books pronto.
All of this tippy-toe politeness of not telling the truth is not useful in our current situation.
August 16, 2008 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome! I second this rant. Nicely-said, Cube3U.
August 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
To call this a tempest in a teapot would be to exaggerate its significance.
I listened to the interview. One thing I liked hearing from Howard Dean occurred at 8:34...
Me, too.
Her unfitness for office was shown by her choice of staff and inability to make decisions. (Having to step around Big Dog's turds sure did complicate matters.) But it reflects well on her character that she had a lot of back-off about following Penn's destructive strategy.
Ah, well. Water under the (not burned down) bridge...
August 16, 2008 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is news to anyone? Nah, it's a non-story, even if it hits the Silly Season fan. Sure, if Obama said it, his numbers would nosedive, because he's black and the candidate and therefore not allowed to discuss race. But Dean says it and he's only stating the obvious, and who cares what Howard Dean says, anyway? No big deal. And no, the rules don't make any fucking sense.
August 16, 2008 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see why everyone is getting their undies in a bunch over this - the GOP has been running the Southern Strategy for the past 30 years and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
It should be clear to anyone with any speck of melanin in their complexion and any Caucasian folks with a bit of sense that the GOP is the party for rich, white folks. They just use the "hard working middle class" as a buffer from the "coloreds".
August 16, 2008 2:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
For me, the issue isn't so much that Dean said it, but that the MSM will probably jump on it and once again use it as an opportunity to distract us from the real issues. Just like with Clark's "getting shot down isn't a qualification" line, the right-wing conservatives and the MSM, which so often follows suit with their talking points, will start harping on Obama and the Dems. for this.
And while that's happening, the narrative fails to be focused on important issues like health care, job losses, the housing crisis, social security, education...
That's why I have a problem with this. Dean is freakin' smart as hell. He should have watched his mouth, because whether it's true or not, I don't want more wasted time.
Obama will win this if the actual issues are debated, which they haven't been for weeks now.
August 16, 2008 2:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM isn't jumping all over it. It's now Saturday and everybody is talking about the Faith Forum.
Dean's slip isn't being talked about on the news shows I watch which are CNN and MSNBC which is what most Dems and Indies watch.
I don't watch Hannity for its whole purpose is to debase Obama.
August 16, 2008 4:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
This reminds me why I loved Howard Dean and thinkg he would make a great president -- he is speaking the truth all the time, whether politic or not. But this is known as a gaffe in our increasingly silly media culture, and he is shot down repeatedly for telling the truth and for nonsense like showing a little too much enthusiasm at a campaign rally (aka "the scream").
I was listening to Diane Rehm yesterday when a caller took the media guests to task for consistently talking about McCain's greater experience and qualifications in foreign policy when the white-haired guy is wrong about everything. It was like water off a duck's back -- they just refused to engage the idea that maybe McCain isn't more qualified.
I just don't get it anymore.
August 16, 2008 5:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's the echo chamber. If an issue is raised that doesn't reinforce their talking points, it does not compute.
It's unreal to see the handful of MSM journalists now who will come out and suggest in print that maybe, just maybe, McCain isn't the man that his media image would lead you to expect he is. But, then they're quick to backtrack and make excuses for him - he doesn't know what his campaign is doing, he didn't hear the question posed to him, he's just having a little fun.
Will anyone in the MSM, between now and November, finally stand up and say, "Hey Guys, this dude isn't what he claims to be"?
August 16, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
So once again the Dems try playing the race card.
This is not a "slip" by Dean. The audience's laughter proves that. It is central to their campaign.
And now Obama is going to have to answer for this.
And publicly rebuke Dean.
Because Hussein can't again pull his "Oh they called me a nigger" routine until he does.
And boyo does it ever reinforce the message of Corsi's OBAMANATION.
All in all a perfect welcome for Hussein's triumphant return as Hawaiian "ButtBoy for Putin".
By the way, notice Hussein's continued and ever more incoherent climb down on Georgia? Maybe Lieberliar will let him go on that junket to Tiblisi after all.
And yet there is more for your weekend laughs!
Today'sPravdaMemo is just as pathetic; watch Tool Marshall do his own climb down.
Like his Lawn Jockey in Chief Marshal now attempts "nuance" and does it just as badly. Guess his prick in the wind showed him which way it blew. So fucking gay!
But hey, is OK!
He's been sucking ObaAss so long he's beginning to choke on the shit.
August 16, 2008 5:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is this person allowed to post here?
August 16, 2008 6:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read the first line and thought it was clever snark. Then I recognized the avatar....
August 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yipes! I clicked over to JTHB's page, and it's some pretty ugly stuff. I have no problem with getting this person blocked from posting.
Who's handling the troll patrol these days? Is Andrew Golis even around any more?
Removing every one of JTHB's posts would detract nothing from the discussion, because discussion is the furthest thing from his mind. (Sorry for the assumption that JTHB's a guy; women that vile are such a small minority that I'm playing the odds.)
August 16, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strom Thurmond used to think JC Watts was part of the wait staff in the Senate Dining Room.
Hey JTHB, In case you haven't heard, the new sheriff is a Ni&&er and he's gonna kick your ass. Oh, and by the way, the cleaner called to say your white robe and pointy headed hood are ready for you to pick up.
Why don't you go put your troll drivel up at Fox News comment page.
August 16, 2008 8:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry but the new sheriff ain't been elected yet
and it won't be Hussein...
Too bad, so sad, but on a positive note your ButtBoy will soon be able to spend all his time with BreckBoy.
August 16, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shut the Fuck up racist asshole.
August 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, baby - there are two types of PUMA dens I won't do: Redneck Bars and Prison Rodeos.
August 16, 2008 8:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
JTHB - Still hung up on human excretory parts ?
August 16, 2008 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever, A white guy cannot place the race card when talking about other Whites.
This story is laughable at best.
August 16, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the facts do speak for themselves:
How many non-white members of congress are from the GOP? Which party has over the years continuously used race as a divisive political issue?
The answers speak for themselves.
August 16, 2008 7:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look ObaBot you might want to be a tad more specific in your accusations.
Lincoln was a Republican as were the first black members of Congress.
It was the racist Dems who invented Jim Crow laws.
And it was Dems, North and South, who offered the most resistance to Civil Rights legislation.
It goes on but I don't want to tax you with facts...
August 16, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, and we still ride around in horse buggies just like we did in Lincoln's day!!
What, are you retarded?
August 16, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
And who rides around in Lincolns?
August 16, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jthb iam sorry for your parents,lord forgive them for they no not what they do,whether people like it or not Howard Dean actually told the truth,america is dumb and they r gonna vote dumb,and its coming mostly from old white rural males and females in their 60's and up uneducated and racist,they would rather see their sons and daughters die in the war they would rather lose their jobs and their homes and they would rather see the economy remains tha same b4 they vote for a colored guy,its sad.OBAMA/CLARK08!!!!
August 16, 2008 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you!
It is always so refreshing when an ObaBot speaks clearly and honestly from their heart.
Obama is the second coming!
All opposition to Hussein is racist!
And Hussein has clearly proven his ability to solve the world's problems!
What a fucking joke you Bots are...
But what will you do when Hussein loses?
Will you burn your neighborhoods?
August 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"All opposition to Hussein is racist!"
..but you are the same sperm receptacle that constantly refers to Obama as a "Lawn Jockey" - fuckstick, what are you talking about?
August 16, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
H_C,
he/She is just some a$$ looking for attention. The best thing to do is to ignore this individual.
August 16, 2008 9:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look you stupid fuck Lawn Jockeys stopped being black ages and ages ago.
When they are seen today they are almost invariably white. They are about as racist as a Garden Gnome.
Lawn Jockey is a pejorative for a mindless placeholder, a person who thinks the world of their uselessness, a pointless being.
It seems perfectly applicable to your ButtBoy Hussein.
And your comments are just more of the Fairy Tale garbage.
Now do us a favor, do something useful, and go burn down your neighborhood.
August 16, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Look you stupid fuck Lawn Jockeys stopped being black ages and ages ago."
What kind of douchebag complains about all anti-Obama sentiment being regarded as racist one minute, and uses authentic racism the next? You are a shining example as to why siblings should never procreate.
"Lawn Jockey is a pejorative for a mindless placeholder, a person who thinks the world of their uselessness, a pointless being."
Nice try asshat, trying to pass a commonly known pejorative off as a completely innocent remark takes a certain amount of sack - or clumsy desperation that is.
"Now do us a favor, do something useful, and go burn down your neighborhood."
..you seem to be the one better equipped to star fires, from all the cross burnings you attend.
August 16, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
And if you want to further expand your vocabulary, watch the Olympics and you'll probably see a white guy chuck a spear.
By your reasoning that would change the meaning of that (former) racial epithet.
Good luck with that.
August 16, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I think there's a rock out there somewhere just waiting for you to crawl back underneath it.
August 17, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we should be very careful here with references to jthb's parents. I know his mom, she lives just a few trailers down, and I happen to know for a fact she was driven to be a crack whore by circumstance.
August 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well it's the truth and I really like this "slip." I'm glad he said it.
August 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, since the great American & REPUBLICAN Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. advised we should judge by the content of character and not the color of skin, I will cast my vote for John McCain.
The rest of you can go ahead and vote for a black guy because it's the cool liberal thing to do.
August 16, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
And you can continue to troll liberal political blog boards cause it's the stupid and juvenile thing to do and you do it so well.
August 16, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
And by the way - where did you get the idea that Dr. King was a Repug?
You want to prove that, please? I do not believe that for one second.
August 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
This should clear things up:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/18/AR2006101801754.html
In a nutshell, that lie stems from an idiotic group playing fast and loose with historical facts. Blacks were indeed Republicans, back when Republicans were actually the party of Lincoln. Of course, we know how a lot of Southerners felt about Lincoln--it was Lindsey Graham who said, โWe don't do Lincoln Day Dinners in South Carolina. It's nothing personal, but it takes a while to get over things.โ
And Graham made that statement in 2005.
But, as we all know, that all started to change in the 1940s with FDR, accelerated even more when Truman desegregated the military, etc.
Besides, if Dr. King was really a Republican in our troll's definition, then why did Dick Cheney and John McCain vote against his holiday?
August 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nicely done, Peach.
Thanks!
August 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
The King Research Institute at Stanford University confirmed that there is no record of MLK ever having registered w/ the Republican Party. The LoriMO troll is spreading troll droppings. Step around them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/byron-williams/martin-luther-king-jrs-_b_30454.html
August 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPM needs to have better comment moderation...
Anyways, this won't get too much MSM coverage.
a) They've already shown Howard to be an unstable liberal.
b) It was a slip.
August 16, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nah. The anarchy can be quite amusing as long as you try to not let it get to ya.
August 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
August 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I must agree. Otherwise you end up with people being arbitrarily banned from commenting, not because they are being trolls but because they are expressing sentiments unpopular with the other commenters or host. Often while allowing the actual trolls to continue running rampant at the same time. ;)
It's a blog, not a beauty contest.
August 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
August 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
When blatant racists / bigots hop on and make offensive comments, no one benefits.
August 16, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I don't appreciate being called a lawn jockey, and I would guess that many of the other Black posters on here feel the same. That poster should be banned.
August 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where was RNC a--hole Duncan when a McCain stood by with that shit-eating grin during this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gg621-DrmU
The race card has already been played by McCain's people: "You can have your Tiger Woods..."
August 16, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, about 30 dozen times so far. And it's still early in the campaign.
August 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Howard Dean...telling it like it is since 1991. He ought to repeat the statement a few times to let the meme sink in.
As for the complaints of bedwetters like JTHB...music to my ears!
August 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah don't you love him? I do.
He does tell it like it is. I actually wish Obama would give Howard the nod as veep, but I know that ain't happening.
'
Howard is such a realist - that's one thing I love about him. Not that many politicians are.
August 16, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hadn't thought about Dean as VP. Good guy. I'll add him to my short list... FWIW.
August 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
JTHB is demonstrating pure desperation. It is a pleasure to see. Just don't respond because it makes him/her think you are paying attention to the drivel.
August 16, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Dean should repeat that line over and over. It's sure to be a unifying theme that will win over skeptical swing voters.
Or will Obama/Soetoro now have to reject the racist ranting of the head of his own party.
Such choices.
Clinton '08
August 16, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well hello again, sunshine - couldn't keep yourself away, huh? I could tell when you walked in the door that this was a PUMA who knew how to P.A.R.T.Y.
August 16, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh. In the car this morning I heard CBS News replay the Dean slip. It didn't seem like a big deal, though; the reporter seemed more amused than anything.
August 16, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
People are not going to make their decision about who they want to be president based on one comment by the head of the DNC or RNC.
August 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Say Erik - is that the royal "We", or what?
August 16, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was he and his friend Eric.
August 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apologies to Eric- I do that all the time and I should know by now.
August 16, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It might have been a slip of the tongue, but that slip was also quite true. RNC dude's comments about "dividing the country" are laughable since the GOP has been doing just that since the late 1960's with the Southern Strategy.
Dirty racist jerks they are.
August 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lol, I heart Dean. And his comments were absolutely right, you just have to look at the exit polls.
And the GOP bitching about dividing based on race??! HAHAHAHHAA, yeah right. What hypocrites.
August 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
What does Dean mean, Republicans don't give opportunities to minorities? For decades they've given opportunities to the wealthy and they make up only 2% of the population. Isn't that a minority?
August 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like the avatar.
It's close to one of my favorite movie quotes: "Ordinary people, I hate 'em."
August 16, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goddamn it - I'd give a lot for a preview function -
"Ordinary fucking people, I hate 'em."
My fave quote and I fucked it up - jeeeeez
August 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am tired of obsessing over what the rightwing (er mainstream) media is going to do. The Republican elite has been systematically looting America for 8 years. We are in serious decline. Incomes are down, the cost of living is up. The bottom 4 quintiles are in serious decline the top 5th quintile up to the level of the top one percent is in trouble.
The fat cat media (all in the very top percentile) is shitting all over themselves trying to ignore the reality. The Republicans have to be sent into the wilderness. America needs renewal. Otherwise the Chinese and Indians win and we are toast.
This election is too serious for us to worry what Jake Tapper or some other Republican functionary might think.
August 16, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am tired of obsessing over what the rightwing (er mainstream) media is going to do.
The MSM does this all the time now. If the rightwing thugosphere shouts loudly enough, the spineless MSM feels compelled to report "what people are talking about". Note they don't feel the same need to report on whatever the left is angry about.
Really, the media must stop playing this game, and stop letting the rightwing hacks determine the topic of the day. Let them bloviate about topics they choose, not whatever GOP operatives have emailed out that morning.
(Good call on Jake Tapper = GOP tool. And I mean tool. I hate that mofo.)
August 16, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
p.s. I dare, DARE, the MSM to count the number of minorites at the upcoming lily white GOP convention. What is it reaching 1% or less now?
Can the geldings in the MSM like Jake Tapper and Ben Smith actually count with their tiny feeble brains? We'll see.
August 16, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
To all the smart open minded people on talkingpointsmemo blog do not respond to JTHB its his parents fault that this individual is like this referin to people as obambot he's a close minded person as well as his father and mother and this person wants attention so by u responding back JTHB that's what he want so ignore him and let him b stuck in his own world callin people obambots and niggers,once again its his parents and his ancestors fault,2nd.Dr.Martin Luther King was a republican and his father was a republican as well but they was the honorable GOP's.OBAMA/CLARK 08!!!
August 16, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I prefer to think that Dr Dean was deliberate in his misspeaking to make an obvious point. When will this country stop teh stupid?
What's obvious should be pointed out to those who choose to wear blinders.
August 16, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Minorities get lynched in the KKK, Aryan party.
Oops, I just spoke the truth. Democrats will lose now.
August 16, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dean: "we just give more opportunity to folks who are hard-working people who are immigrants and come from members of minority groups."
If there is any slippage in that statement, it is with the phrase "we just give."
Who the fuck are you to "give"? Are you not looking down upon the minority, Dean? So, minorities get only what you white folks give? Dean is a total shit head for this "we give," not for saying "white Republican."
August 16, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let Nader debate.
August 16, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dean misspoke? Right. And Obama has been consistent in all his messages.
Dean and the Demockacrats have simply decided there's no need hide how they play the race card anymore.
It will backfire at the polls.
August 16, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dean didn't slip. He carefully carried out the strategy of the Obama campaign and played the race card again for Obama. Obama & Dean & the worshipers of the "The Obama" are dying to just come out and call McCain a racist...but they know it won't fly yet, especially after what they did to Hillary, Bill, and Geraldine. So they are taking turns building up slowly....but the racism charges are coming. Obama's campaign can hardly wait.
August 16, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he was just following McBush's lead.
He was just being funny. LOL
Good move in my opinion.
McBush has commented many times that he "hates Gooks".
If the shoe fits....
August 17, 2008 1:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can JTHB possibly be so ignorant that he does not know that after Democratic presidents Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson championed civil rights in the decades following World War II, segregationist Southern Democrats became Republicans and formed the nucleus of today's white-supremacist Republican party, now little more than a regional party held together by fear of non-whites (minorities and immigrants)? Today's Democrats are the heirs to Lincoln and TR. Lincoln could not buy a Republican vote were he running for president today. JTHB sounds immature and callow enough that he perhaps cannot be blamed for not knowing anything about American history. If he got his hatred from his parents, perhaps he should not be judged too severely for that, either.
August 17, 2008 1:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Many things can change before minorities become the majority. Never underestimate the aryan race, they will always be the smartest and as has been proven since time began, they are conquerors of the world. Have your dreams, but be careful of your mouth as it may haunt you one day. Laws are only good for as long as people want to adhere to them. Dean may wish one day that his mouth wasnt so big.
Used2bdemocrat
August 17, 2008 1:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Howard Dean grew up on Park Avenue as the spoiled brat son of the Dean in Dean Witter. He has the smile of a werewolf. Oh, and he's white the last time I checked.
August 17, 2008 3:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
wyt: ""Nah. If everybody not "white" (e.g. Hispanics) votes Democratic, the Republicans just lose""
In case you didn't realize it. At least half of Hispanics are racially WHITE. They are racially white and ethnically Hispanic. But at least you're not as ignorant as Howard Dean. Obama should have fired Dean, the fact that he didn't just shows he never meant to be post racial.
August 17, 2008 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dean's a loose cannon & shouldn't be let out of his trench warfare sandbox without one of those electric fence dog collars on his neck.
Howard Dean has kind of an unpolished, rough quality. If you try stuff like that you have to be funny. Or witty.
You don't deliver smashmouth baiting via snarks.
August 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scary Mary. Pity is, the racist trolls are probably going to get a lot worse as this campaign goes on. Sigh. I'm sure Hannity or someone MUST be giving a car away for the most outlandish trolling.
August 17, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone think that maybe he just meant to say minorities haven't been in the "White House"? Perhaps two strains of his thought crossed paths while he was speaking: one in which he wanted to say that no minorities have been elected to the "white" house; another in which he wanted to point out that Republicans don't like minorities.
August 17, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure why the patently obvious truth is newsworthy.
August 17, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
HusseinTenaX, when I don't get time to write, I'm sure glad you are there!
August 18, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Its a "white" two party thing. I respect the African American community for even particiapting in "white" US Politics. Thank you.
The republican party was born out of Free Soiler's from the Democratic Party and some Whigs.
From 1865 to 1920s, the republican party was the party of choice for african americans. Quite understandably. In the 1920s, Democrats figured something was wrong when they openly associated with the KKK, They lost more votes.
In the 1930s, Roosevelt's New Deal brought african americans to the Democrat party.
In the 1960s, Dr. King, the Kennedys and political necessity moved the Democratic party to embrace African Americans and drop the Dixiecrats.
Recalling history, the dixiecrats splintered into a separate party or two as democrats opened themselves. They did not beat a path to the Republican party, it represented the cause of the "war of northern agression". Splinters still exist feeling abandoned.
The democratic party toppled Southern reconstruction, Many black republicans died as a result. Republican party acquiesence from 1890 to 1930 is difficult to accept.
If interested, go to wikipedia, look up each party's history, look up "Copperheads", "Free Soilers", "Black Conservatism".
African American opression is a "white" thing. Not republican, not democrat.
In 1921, the republican dominated senator proposed the Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill. The republican president supported it. And it died in Senate, January 22, 1922.
August 18, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink