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Bush On Maliki's Endorsement Of 16-Month Timetable: He Didn't Say What He Said

Looks like we have yet another point in common between John McCain and George Bush: Both are responding to Nouri al-Maliki's inconvenient endorsement of Barack Obama's 16-month withdrawal timeline by saying that Maliki didn't really mean it.

From a new interview with the President...

SEOUL, Aug 5 -- President Bush said Monday he sees little distance between himself and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on how to approach troop reductions in Iraq, dismissing the suggestion that Maliki had effectively endorsed Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's plan to withdraw all U.S. combat brigades in 16 months.

"I talk to him all the time, and that's not what I heard," Bush said in an interview with The Washington Post aboard Air Force One on the start of a trip to Asia. "I heard a man who wants to work with the United States to come up with a rational way to have the United States withdraw combat troops depending upon conditions on the ground, that's all."

If that sounds familiar, that's because it is. Last month McCain was asked what he would do as president if Maliki persisted in saying what he said, which is that he wants the troops out in around 16 months.

McCain's reply: "He won't. He won't. He won't."

Maliki either didn't say what he said, or he didn't mean what he said. Life is so simple sometimes...


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I told y'all McCain = Bush's 3rd term!

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damn...I'm clear now as to what al-maliki's said...I thought I was confused about our troop withdrawl from what Mcfuddle said ealier but Bushie cleared up...

I guess the MSM confused us before when he said 16 months sounded about right and endorsed Obama's approach!

withdraw combat troops depending upon conditions on the ground

If McCain's going to try and distance himself from Bush, the two need to stop repeating each other verbatim.

You are so right. Amazing that Malaki could not have been clearer. Oh well, perhaps both Bush and McCain are dumb as two stumps (as my mom used to say) and the concept was just too difficult for either of them to understand. You know 18 is a very HIGH number for some, eh? Although my 6 yr old great granddaughter got it.

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President Bush said Monday he sees little...

Stop there and you've hit the nail on the head.

The monkey in your picture is making an "ah" sound.

The fuckhead in your picture is making an "oh" sound.

It shouldn't be difficult get pair of pictures which better match up.

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That's not a monkey, Zell.

It looks like a bonobo.

LOL!!!

That was in response to "jzap" - very funny.

Few things to keep in mind. Der Speigel, a german newspaper, broke

...I'm confused what your point is. Whether it's a German newspaper, British, French, American... The fact of the matter is that al-Maliki's words were translated and interpreted by so many different people that we now know exactly what he said, which was pretty much an endorsement of Obama's plan. There's no way around it.

If Bush and McCain want to avoid the facts, then so be it. But come debate time, McCain is going to look like a bloody fool.

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i think BK's point is that the american media is without doubt the finest in the world. in fact the american media is the only free, accurate, and uncorrupted such entity in the whole world. from hannity to rush to charlie gibson h'yuk to snuffulupagus to katie couric to bill kristol, they show us what that commie murrow only dreamt about.

Bush and McCain are not avoiding facts, they are creating them.

"I heard a man who wants to work with the United States to come up with a rational way to have the United States withdraw combat troops depending upon conditions on the ground, that's all."

More like a man who wants to work with Senator Obama to come up with a way to withdraw troops...

Der Speigal broke the Maliki story. We all know how much the German love Obama, elevating him to cult-like celebrity status.

However, the PM 'corrected' the quote and now Bush co-signs, saying "I talk to him all the time, and that's not what I heard,"

So who do you wanna believe the lying german media or us.

I know it lame, but that's how they're gonna weave it all together.

I'll just copy/paste from above, in case you didn't get it.

...I'm confused what your point is. Whether it's a German newspaper, British, French, American... The fact of the matter is that al-Maliki's words were translated and interpreted by so many different people that we now know exactly what he said, which was pretty much an endorsement of Obama's plan. There's no way around it.

If Bush and McCain want to avoid the facts, then so be it. But come debate time, McCain is going to look like a bloody fool.

Yes, but he still makes a very good point re: propaganda wars that will ensue.

European or not, a German newspaper isn't nearly as distrusted as our 28% approval rating President. Having Bush weigh in on this is bad for McCain.

It is significant that Maliki, who is media-savvy, chose a European newspaper because he knows the MSM in the U.S. only parrots Administration talking points and would have dismissed or buried the story.

Which they did anyway...

Yeah, it's too bad. I don't think our fact-free press is quite what the founding fathers envisioned.

Apparently news travels slowly in Troll Circles.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/22/maliki-s-endorsement-not-lost-in-translation.aspx

Just in case you are allergic to hyperlinks, here's the passage:

German magazine Der Spiegel caused quite a commotion this week by printing an interview with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki in which he endorsed Obama's Iraq plan by name. Some tried to downplay the significance of this endorsement by saying that Maliki had been misquoted by the magazine. But it turns out that Maliki actually got a copy of the interview before it was printed and had the option to make any changes. A writer at Der Spiegel sent us this tidbit of info:

The reason the magazine scores so many high level interviews is that the editors agree to allow the subjects to "authorize" the interviews before they go to press. It wasn't just a slip of the tongue, in other words: Maliki not only endorsed Obama's plans for withdrawing from Iraq, but his office then explicitly approved the endorsement before it was printed. The denials, then, were doubly facetious. Spiegel couldn't say so, though, without revealing its embarrassing authorization policy.

Der Spiegel has gotten flak in the past for this policy. According to Ingrid Kolb, director of the Henri Nannen School for Journalism in Hamburg:

The long interviews that Der Spiegel publishes with famous public figures, their so-called talks, are known for this ... They can go back and forth a dozen times, with each side bringing their argument a bit more to the point, refining it, improving it. In a best-case scenario, it serves the interests of both sides.

So much for Maliki's message being lost in translation.

Apparently news travels slowly in Troll Circles.

Word of the Renaissance will reach them eventually.

I think if you read this out loud about a few thousand times in front of a mirror, the sound of your voice and the meaning of your words will magically enter the mind of every American voter and set the record straight forever.

Awww, what's the matter, feeling neglected?

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German magazine Der Spiegel caused quite a commotion this week by printing an interview with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki in which he endorsed Obama's Iraq plan by name.

Troll says: "Like we're supposed to believe this? Maliki speaks Arab. Der Spiegel editors speak German. Those are both very incomprehensible languages. There's just no possible way you could translate one to the other since neither is English."

So who do you wanna believe the lying german media or BUSH? I'll take the lying German media!

McCain points for you, using the word 'celebrity' and 'cult like' in one post.

"You know what he said ... he didn't say it. Well, I mean, he SAID it, but he didn't really mean it. If he knew what he said, I'm sure he'd tell you himself that he didn't say it and he didn't mean it. I know what he says and means better than you or him!" - Bush/McCain

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Notice Bush went from saying "what" Maliki didn't say, to "who" Bush talked to. "I didn't hear Maliki say he wanted us out in 16 months, I heard a man who [agrees with me]." Total non-sequitur screaming out for some reporter to ask, "Yes that's not what you heard, so what did you hear? What did he say?"

"I heard a man who wants to work with the United States to come up with a rational way to have the United States withdraw combat troops depending upon conditions on the ground, that's all."

Just so happens Maliki would prefer to work with a United States with a President Obama, who has a plan for withdrawing combat troops in a rational way within 16 months.

Sigh....They should both get a house together to live in de-nial.

Bush (channeling Redd Foxx): "Who ya gonna believe? Me, or your lying ears?"

Maliki is humoring the Lame Duck.

He wants us out. He still has a lot of Sunni to slaughter.

So Bush talks to Maliki all the time? How much is all the time? Doesn't he have othe things to do, like run this country, no matter how poorly he actually does this, it is utterly ridiculous to think that he speaks to Maliki all the time. Now I am sure that he has plenty of people who give him updates on this situation but that is an entirely different matter than saying I talk to him all the time. It is no different than when John McCain insisted that he knew Maliki so well that he knows that he wouldn't have said something in support of the 16th month time line. There is no end to the lengths by which people such as Bush and no apperently McCain claim that they are in the know on everything. Just like when Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul, and declared that he was an OK guy. This would sound plausible to any idiot who has not been paying attention the last 8 years but it makes it completely ridicuous when Putin and the new head of the Russian government are threatening to keep "all options on the table" should we place that missile base in the Czech Rep.

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Well, ya know, when you fry your brain with so much coke and booze til your forty (and maybe after), it can kind of mess up your hearing.

Evidently your speaking abilities, as well.

Back to Crawford, Dub. Back to Crawford.

Didn't you hear? Laura has had it up to here with Crawford. They are moving to Dallas.

Or maybe that was ...

Laura has had it up to here with Dubya, and she is moving to Dallas while he returns to Crawford.

Yeah, that makes more sense.

Hey, you all are missing the point. The Decider decides what was said and what wasn't said, and he's decided that THAT'S NOT WHAT HE HEARD. All this other stuff, is irrelevant.

Hey lalo, what was that you said in a previous incarnation? Something about fooling some of the people . . .

"I talk to him all the time, and that's not what I heard," Bush said

Maybe it's all true - Maliki wants the US out of Iraq, has said so to Bush, and Bush didn't hear it. Reminds me of a line in (what I think is) an old Paul Simon song that goes....'still a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."

One statement will clear everything up .....

If Dubya's mouth is moving, he's lying.

"We won't drill, we will let our economy go down the tubes." That's what Republicans say.

Here's what I say to them:

Don't listen to me. Watch her. Really. She gave a talk to conservatives recently that I think you should watch. It might resonate.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/8/4/215124/0139

She says the more we produce, the less OPEC will increase its production to compensate. Her proof? OPEC has gone from producing 30 million barrels a day since the 70s to 32 million barrels a day today. The rest of the world has doubled its production. We add a few million barrels from offshore drilling, guess what happens? Growth in China and India picks up the slack and OPEC holds its production steady. In other words, nothing. It's that simple.

Anne Korin is right. Two thirds of our gas consumption comes from vehicles. Only 2% of our electricity is generated using oil. What is the obvious solution? Switch to battery powered vehicles. Get vehicles off the gas. And start equipping all vehicles for alternative fuels, at a cost of only about $100 a car by the way. Corn ethanol is profitable at about $2 a gallon, much cheaper than current prices. Let's go!

The Republicans have been in power for so long. Even they say we are addicted to oil. Why aren't they saying any of this? Could it have something to do with their warped allegiances in the Middle East, especially with Saudi Arabia who sent us the 9/11 bombers?

Can we please get real already? Offshore drilling is a red herring. It will not matter in the grand scheme of things. The problem is OPEC holds the cards. We are too dependent on oil. Republican politicians are sell-outs who don't want you to think clearly on this.

"Iraqi backing of Obama plan irks White House
Says Baghdad may be using U.S. election as leverage in negotiations"

This headline was RICH! Didn't Bush use the Iraqi election as leverage in negotiations?

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