ABC: Edwards Admits Affair
ABC News has the story from John Edwards himself:
John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 42-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.
Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter's baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby's birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.
Edwards claimed in the interview that the affair began before his wife Elizabeth Edwards' cancer relapse...
Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife's cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter.
But the affair may have continued well after her relapse had become publicly known:
Edwards today admitted the National Enquirer was correct when it reported he had visited Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.
This obviously kills any hopes he had of speaking at the convention, if such hopes still even existed any longer in recent days.
Late Update: The Politico reports:
ABC News's Brian Ross tells us that Edwards says in the interview that he's still considering attending the Democratic National Convention.
Not in a speaking role, obviously.
Late Late Update: Here's a new statement from Edwards himself.
Still Later Update: Edwards' statement says the affair ended in 2006, so while he did admit in the interview to visiting her last month, he must be saying that that wasn't a continuation of it.

This is very, very sad.
August 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's still lying about it:
"Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him."
August 8, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, I think you're correct on that.
August 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
For once, I agree with you. He's lying. It's his kid. And the biggest problem is that he was running for president and didn't have the restraint to stop screwing around. If he had gotten the nomination, we'd be sunk!
August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shades of Gary Hart. Christ, what an asshole.
August 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
indeed, what a jerk. I can't believe anything he says about the affair. I don't believe him when he says the kid ain't his, I don't believe him regarding the timing of the affair.
Jerk. Jerk. Jerk. Thank FSM that he did not get the nomination nor a VP nod.
August 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
hey, john and ryno.
getting any lately? or ever????????
August 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's about almost setting up our country for eight more years of a Republican presidency, not about sex. Moran.
August 8, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guess he won't be VP now, will he?
August 8, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try that again: "There goes any position for him in the administration".
August 8, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
i disagree. people have affairs all the time.
it doesn't make him husband of the year, but it shouldn't disqualify him from future employment.
he could still be AG and i think the fact that his wife and family already knew about this, AND the fact that it ended two years ago makes a pretty big difference.
August 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw shit - I was afraid it was true.
this is politics; where is Henry Cisneros nowadays?
Edwards' wife is terminally ill with breast cancer - come the hell on.
August 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, this is what buried Henry Cisneros politically.
For all time.
August 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
And yet, had no effect whatsoever on the career of Newt Gingrich. IOIYR.
August 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, more troubling is the fact he lied while running for his party's nomination. That concerns me and I'm dissappointed. I was a supporter of Edwards before the emergence of Obama. But knowing now that he willingly jeoperdized democratic chances for presidency by being on the top fray is dissappointing.
When he had a affair and the news began to become public in 2007, he should have just stayed away.
August 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, that brings to mind Bill in '92.
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
In hindsight, he had some chutzpah to make Hill and Barack scamble around his NC home for days with an endorsement bait. He was sitting on a time bomb, and was demanind his share of the pie. Pretty dumb and blinded courage.
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you.
Repeat after me: It's never the act, it's the coverup. That's what kills them every time.
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh, it would be the wife that killed me.
August 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hate to say it, but I knew something was up and that's why I never supported him. I said so months ago and got hugely flamed for it.
I mentioned that he didn't seem affectionate enough towards Elizabeth, didn't stand beside her right, didn't seem close, etc. I said at the time something seemed wrong, kinda cold and standoffish, and that I couldn't trust someone who doesn't stand by their spouse 100% with love and without reservation.
My wife went through some weight gain at one point and needed TLC to feel good. I had a choice: always hold her hand and treat her like a queen to make her feel like the most loved woman in the world, or be standoffish and aloof, as if to say: "I'm not 100% with her."
These things go deep into character.
August 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think he's going to be AG, freaktown, or anything else in the administration now. You are coming from an adult perspective and that hardly runs rampant in the voting populace.
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Besides, if we went by that criteria, Washington would be a ghost town!
August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this would make him a terrible choice for AG. All government people should be trustworthy, but the A.G. position in particular requires an extra level of ethics and honesty.
I'd love to see someone like Carol Lam get the job. She's the one who ran the Duke Cunningham probe and brought down super lobbyists and the head of the CIA. I don't know what her politics are like, though.
August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the Christian Republic of America it sort of does.
August 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try this: He's politically "dead".
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Righteo, geha714.
August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a doornail, in fact.
It's over for John.
I don't know what this means for Elizabeth and the health care committee - I'm hoping it just means she carries on.
August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see why this would cause Elizabeth any problems, any more then Bills issues caused problems for Hillary.
August 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, if anything, Elizabeth looks even stronger to me. Even though she knew of this affair, she went on and started her own thing independent of John, in the face of medical and emotional obstacles. I view her as so strong and someone who can still be very effective at making a difference.
August 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
We Democrats are lusty men!
August 8, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, and we also seem to be suddenly puritanical--
and definitely not forgiving.
We're also starting to sound like republicans.
But let's keep acting like small town gossips. God knows that nothing really important is going on now in our country!
August 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it's Puritanical so much as an issue of consistency, trust and leadership.
If a couple can deal with a sexually open relationship that's fine with me. Or if mistresses are the norm and expected to go unmentioned as they do in some cultures, that's fine too if they want that. But having an affair that actually is an act of betrayal, and then covering it up, is a real problem.
I think Jackie O. always knew, and while she disliked it, adopted a defacto policy of acceptance by not talking about it, and JFK knew how it was. That's fairly common. Hillary also knew I think.
But I don't get the feeling that's what happened here unless I'm missing something. Also, Edwards wasn't affectionate towards her in public, which seemed either cold or vain, or an indication the relationship is strained.
August 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is, i think, a relevant piece of info.
August 8, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't catch that. Yeah, that does help actually, from my perspective.
August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
well, I don't know that it does.
He was running for president and they all knew he had this kid?
That bugs me.
August 8, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
the kid isn't his, you may want to re-read the report.
August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
He hasn't taken a paternity test and if it isn't his kid why did he meet with her at the hotel a couple of weeks ago?
August 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
i don't know why he met with her. maybe to tell her that the story was going to become public and that she should prepare herslef for that.
but you're overlooking one very important fact:
August 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be right, but then again Edwards could be lying again. Time well tell.
I feel bad for Elizabeth.
August 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard on NPR that a former Edwards staffer claimed the kid was his.
Riiiiiiiiight. Either he's taking the fall for Edwards or... what? they were passing this woman around? They had a 3-way and Edwards didn't cum inside her but the other guy did?
What a putz.
August 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you think he voted for No Child Left Behind when he wasn't sure it was his, and ran against it when he knew?
August 8, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
next time you feel the need to share such thoughts, could you kindly place a "CLASSLESS SPECULATION" warning label above? thanks so much.
(goes off to look for brain bleach)
August 9, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agree with you there, Tena. Helps me a bit with my family's long history of cancer and some of the personal associations, I made. Of course, I think there's a bit of credibility problem here, so who knows?
August 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
O, gosh - sorry, I didn't mean to step on your personal situation.
I meant from my standpoint.
I am not judging Edwards for having the affair - having sex with another woman - that's so understandable, so forgivable, as far as I'm concerned.
IT's the fucking arrogance and stupidity of a man in his position doing something that he knows will ruin him and will pubicly humilitate his family and the Democrats if he's caught.
That's why I'm upset- it's not the sex.
August 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"pubicly humiliate..."
A Freudian slip if ever there was one.
August 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all good- you didn't step on anything.
August 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
God gave men 2 heads but only enough blood to run one at a time.
Tena, as disgusted as we ladies may be, and we cannot understand it...it has been this way since time began. Guys loose their stinking minds when it comes to fantasy sex. Really. They are will to give up pretty much anything for it (marriages, their kids, their money) it is really astounding.
August 8, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah? And when was he planning on letting the cat out of the bag? After he won the nomination? That would have worked out just fine -- for the Republicans.
I used to work for John Edwards and I supported his campaign this year. But he's revealed himself as a selfish, deceitful scumbag.
August 8, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very sad, on so many levels.
Not only for the Edwards family (especially Elizabeth), but for Democrats, those of us who believe that there are honest politicians out there, and those of us who support journalism and decry the National Enquirer-branch of media.
August 8, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a bleeping idiot! What is so hard about keeping it in your pants, honestly! I'm a gay man and I've never had that problem. Seriously!
Thorougly revolted by this, as I stated in another thread, this really strikes home for me, as I had an aunt die of cancer several years ago. My uncle waited on her hand and foot from the second they received the 6 month diagnosis. To hear this- disgusting!
I feel so sorry for Elizabeth!
August 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, joseph! Gay, straight, bi, or whatever, guys and gals in a committed relationship should keep their privates private.
But, it is the dishonesty that kills (politically) or should kill.
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, and I would have thought you'd rather the media stays out of anyone's private bedroom.
August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
The media will always be interested in people's bedrooms, gay, straight, or other. The laws and legislation can stay out of my bedroom though. Thank you very much.
August 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Myself. And the government. But now watch the politicians line up to piss and moan about Edwards lying to his supporters. Oh, we don't care if you screw around, but please don't lie to us. Amazing. As far as I'm concerned, you can lie to me about who and what you do all you want. Just don't lie to me about the wmd.
August 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, and I would have thought you'd rather the media stays out of anyone's private bedroom.
August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, like that will ever happen in our celeb gossip pop over-sexed society.
August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I would prefer it.
I'd love it if this wasn't news in America - but it is.
And in this instance, there are aggravating factors - his wife's illness. Makes him look really bad.
I feel sorry for all them - John, Elizabeth, the other woman and the baby.
But he knew what would happen if he got caught and that's what I can never forgive these bastards for - they know better.
It's not that their dicks tell them Yes Yes - that doesn't bother me; I get that. It's that their goddamn brains become completely paralyzed at the same time. I guess all the blood rushes down there. Jesus. I can't forgive Bill Clinton for one thing - being so fucking stupid!
August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, um, I don't think my gender has a monopoly on that kind of thing. In fact, I am absolutely certain of it.
August 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly, fka NCSteve (which is why I stated "guys and gals" in my comment a couple up). And, it would seem to me, that Tena's comments will be represented until at least a couple of female officeholders/candidates get caught thinking with their vaginas. (Now, THAT'LL be equality!)
August 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
See- that's it - I don't know yet of any women in office who have been caught.
It's possible - I know women in positions of public respect who were lucky and didn't get caught.
But we're talking about a guy and before that, I was talking about Bill - another guy.
August 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, countless other male politicians, too, Tena.
(BTW, my above comment should read "...representATIVE...", not "represented".)
August 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's called thinking with the wrong head.
Spot on Tena.
My wife is just crestfallen and betrayed over this.
We thought he was better than this.
That bastard!
August 8, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
And it kills his chances for the Vice Presidency I'd say.
August 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes the Gregger gets off a zinger.
August 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe he even ran for President. What a clown. Imagine if he was the nominee right now? We'd be guaranteed a McCain win. He risked the whole country on his ego.
I wonder if he coordinated this with Obama's vacation AND the Olympics. I wonder how much effect this will have on the Presidential campaign given McCain's history. Edwards did endorse Obama though, so that could be somewhat of an issue.
I expect the GOP to hit it harder as an overarching condemnation of Dems in general.
Score one for the National Enquirer.
August 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And risk discussion of McCain's extramarital affair, betraying a wife crippled by an accident for Cindy? I'd love to see them try.
August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
And don't forger Vicki Isman for a sequel.
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. In fact, I hope that some McCain surrogate does attack so it becomes fair game. Fits in nicely with the whole thing that McCain is the one who really has had to gilded life.
August 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cosign!
August 8, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know I know, but that's old news. Or so they say.
August 8, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
*cough*
You ARE aware that McCain dumped his first wife and mother of his child after having a year-long adulterous affair with a rich, much younger millionaire heiress?
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, but show me the person in the MSM with the balls to give that some airplay. ain't gonna happen. all you hear is crickets.
August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
IF McCain tries to make an issue out of this, if will be brought up.
If McCain does not, as is extremely likely, his infidelity is none of my business just as Edwards' transgressions are not.
August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
the la times ran a story on mccain's affair back in june.
August 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly! It's not like the republicans haven't done a lil pickle tickling
August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Always - Newt Gingrich walked out on one of his wives while she was in the hospital with cancer.
but this is the Rule: IOKIYAR
August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The National Enquirer was right.
The truth hurts.
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well he didn't coordinate it with Hilary. This steps all over her speech today. OK, that may be a good thing except it was a strong speech supporting Obama, I don't see anybody covering it.
Greg, can you do a post about her speech with transcript?
August 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder when Obama found out about this. Remember, Obama said he would be using Elizabeth Edwards to help him with his health care plan, but he said squat about John Edwards helping with anything...
Ah, maybe my tin foil hat needs loosening.
August 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
He had an affair with her and then his aide father her baby? What a little trollop this chick was!
August 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is lousy on a lot of levels. In the short term the damage is the news cycles that will be eaten up in discussing it in the MSM. Because infidelity trumps anything as far as the MSM is concerned.
August 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but you've forgotten that this is *Friday*... The campaign has innumerable "cycles" yet to go...
August 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Edwards is taking one for the team...they knew it was going to come out, just deny everything tii the Obama's go on vacation then spill the beans. This will suck up any coverage till the vacation's over...
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think this has much to do with Obama or anyone else in the Democratic Party. This is Edwards trying to bury the news as much as he possibly can on the Friday that the Olympics starts.
If he wanted to help Obama the way you suggest, he would have waited until Monday.
August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll definately be the talk of all the Sunday morning shows...
August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not going to argue that this isn't a legitimate news story, mostly because of the copious denials.
Because there's no real meat for the GOP to exploit here, this will be old news by very early next week. At least until the results of the paternity test.
August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Friday timing was for Edwards, but the Friday of the start of the vacation was for Obama. This way, maybe it won't stay in the news. But if it does, at least it will be drowning out McCain.
August 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has ABC (or anyone else) given any indication whether Edwards approached Woodruff, or whether ABC was getting close to going with new information on the story and "forced" him to comment?
August 8, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey troll, this has nothing to do with Obama. Plus, he obviously chose to drop it now so the Olympics would suck up the coverage. Everyone knows the Olympics is going to get the most coverage for the next few weeks.
Do you think before you type? Really, do you?
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to defend SFCWallace (because I believe he or she can do that on his or her own), but s/he's not a troll. A McCain supporter, yes. Troll, no.
August 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the idiot would ever say something useful it could be different. Instead it is nothing but idiotic parroting of right wing nonsense. Hell, he is probably one of McCain's paid trolls that get cash or prizes for commenting on liberal sites.
August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
S/he does have moments of clarity and reason. Plus, I think s/he is only a few hundred posts from the McCain '08 Golf Clubs or a personal Surge from McCain. Cut him/her some slack.
August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haha, I must have missed the lucid moments. But hey, who am I to stand between a right winger and their propaganda golf clubs?
August 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
SFC has enough McCain posts to win a lap dance from Cindy.
August 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
SFC is crediting Obama with good tactical political skills. It is not an insult.
August 8, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That and the Clinton drama.
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you imagine if this fool managed to get the nomination?
August 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lord forbid.
I never trusted Edwards. His actual record were the opposit of his populist rhetoric. As far as I'm concerned the best thing about him is his wife, and we'll see how long that lasts.
August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another comment that reminds me of Bill in '92. But, I REALLY hope your "lasts" comment was referring to whether or not Elizabeth will file for divorce.
August 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes it was. I'm not that big an asshole.
August 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Phew!
August 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why did the DNC keep this covered up for so long? Don't act like they didn't know. Did they really think this wasn't going to get out? What a bunch of idiots.
August 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Edwards said his wife, Elizabeth, and others in his family became aware of the affair in 2006."
If that is true, then he has now also seriously damaged his wife's reputation, if she was still pushing to get him the nomination after she had learned that he was the new Gary Hart.
August 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just have to say... I like Edwards, but thank god he didn't get the nomination. Honestly, whether he kept denying it or not, it would've come out. And that would've been the end of his run.
August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been waiting for this admission.
He won't be AG now which is a damned shame.
August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
how about the guy who's record he ran on? (see post below.)
August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell me again why this is important? I could see if this had some sort of causal effect on my salary, mortgage, health insurance, etc. As a liberal who firmly believes what people do and who they do it with is their own business... (feel free to finish the sentence for me)
August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, somewhere in Iraq and Afghanistan some american soldier (someone's child, husband, wife, father, mother, aunt, uncle...) has been killed
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a liberal who firmly believes what people do and who they do it with is their own business... (feel free to finish the sentence for me)
...I only hold the personal activities of Republicans up to any sort of scrutiny.
How was that?
August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Infedility ain't a liberal or conservative top. Vitter, Spitzer, Edwards or McCain- everyone seems to have breached their marriages with a mistress of sorts.
Ofcourse, Craig and Foley were a little more creative.
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Except Republicans are usually the ones who make the personal activities of others a matter of public policy and debate.
Just sayin'.
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter CG...
And I agree.
August 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm...let's see...he isn't holding any public office, it doesn't effect anyone but him and his family, and he isn't letting his views of "family values" dictate public policy. What's your point troll?
August 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
honestly? Not so good but let me help you with that.....
i could careless what anyone (including repugs) do, where they do it and with whom they do it.
August 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
careful reading is always helpful
unless for sone reason you think that republicans aren't people??
August 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I only hold the personal activities of Republicans up to any sort of scrutiny.
If only you assholes *would* hold your people up to any sort of standards beyond "cut taxes" and "kill brown people."
Oh yeah, and "Jebus Jebus Jebus."
August 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
eliani, as I mentioned to a poster above, you are addressing this from a rational mature perspective. All you have to do is read the thread to understand that self righteous emotional material is more the way with human beings.
It would seem that many commentors, like Mary Poppins, are practically perfect in every way.
August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your are right. I have a nasty habit of injecting rationality where is obviously has no place.
Okay move over so I can faint on a lil piece of couch
August 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is the father and everyone knows it. JE just kissed his brief political career goodbye.
August 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
This gives McCain a much needed breather from media scrutiny. Forget the GOP fundraiser scandal getting any press. Affairs are much sexier. The GOP just got handed a week's grace period that they desperately needed.
August 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's not going to be apart of the Obama Administration. Period. That's unfortunate, but that's reality.
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bah! I've should've known better than to be an early supporter of his.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Feingold_Edwards_is_running_on_my_record.html
August 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now with the Edwards story off the list, maybe the media can find Vicki Iseman.
August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Guiliani eliminated from any potential McCain White House job?
August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is McCain eliminated from any potential McCain White House job?
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel the worst for his wife, even if she did know.
August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
My heart goes out to Elizabeth. She's such a kick ass person. He's a low down dirty dog. All men are.
August 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not all men. Chill with that.
August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You do know women cheat on thier husbands too, don't you?
August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rock solid case you've got for misandry, that.
August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go fuck yourself with a tire iron and a catcher's mitt.
August 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
??? My imagination isn't vivid enough...
August 8, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And as for judgments, what John McCain did to his first wife was no less despicable.
August 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's the rub - does this bring McCain's past into the field of play if the GOP tries to run with it?
Knowing our media, I would guess probably not.
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I doubt the Republican's will touch this with a ten foot pole due to the Cindy-John affair while he was married to his first wife. But then again W. was never in the military but Kerry was swift boated so who knows!
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha. The GOP will be all over this like flies on dogshit. Or, perhaps more appropriately, like dogshit on flies.
August 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
That ought to put an end to the "Breck girl" meme.
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha!
This is true, but then again, the people pushing that weren't the type of people to let simple. facts get in their way.
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute. Elizabeth lied to us, too. I don't care that he had an affair. I don't care if the baby is his. I do care that they believed they could just march all the way to the White House lying every minute of every day. Just like the Clintons and the Bushes. What else did they lie about?
August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
when did they lie? did John or Elizabeth ever actually say "John Edwards didnot have sexual relations with that woman?"
just because they didn't tell us about a personal family matter that had been dealt with and ended before he started running for president
i'm all for the public's right to know, but i don't think we need to know about everybody a candidate's ever slept with...how is that information relevant to how you're going to govern?
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course John Edwards lied. He repeatedly told the media last fall that it wasn't true so they wouldn't investigate something that would sink his campaign. The reason he didn't tell "the public" the lie directly is because the media didn't go with the story.
I don't care what he does with his personal life except when it puts the Democratic party's presidential hopes in jeopardy. He came in second in Iowa, for crying out loud. If he'd been stronger in NH and SC, this would have seriously damaged us.
August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
HUH??
"... repeatedly lie...."
??
August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think this gives Mccain a breather at all. Indeed, it is likely to cause some in the media to call attention to how McCain committed serial adultery on his first wife when she was an invalid, and then dumped her to take up with the rich beer distributor heiress who is now his wife (and god knows how many emaciated blond lobbyists since).
What John Edwards did is no more reprehensible than what McCain himself has done. That's the fact, Jack.
August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is pretty bad...What is wrong with all southern men? Bill Clinton did the same thing, now, Edward follow suite. Wow!! Another talent wasted.
The conservatives will have a full day on this. I think this is good for Obama because it will distract McCain for the rest of the week while he enjoys his vacation
August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark my words -- he's still lying, about the timeline and his paternity of the child.
This is a man who ran for President knowing that this was lurking in the background and would come out someday. He was willing to risk four more years of GOP rule for his VANITY.
This is not a flawed but good man. This is a solipsistic, egomaniacal creep.
August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given his wife's condition and the fact that he was running for POTUS, I would be more sympathetic if he WAS in love with her for chrissake. As it stands, it was just what? . . . just a fling like his whole campaign?
August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think he did love her. If the affair was over, then why was he visiting her a few weeks ago? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. That's his baby.
August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
what a dumbass!
I guess we need to call Maury to see who the baby's father is...
August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Edward is a phony man and empty headed. He looks more like Bill Clinton now.
August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel sorry for Elizabeth as well. She's a great lady.
But I feel especially sorry for the country. This was pretty damn stupid on Edwards' part -- come on, John, the woman wasn't even attractive! --, but Senator Edwards was the only major '08 candidate who even came close to being a true progressive.
He would have made a great Veep and an even greater Attorney General.
A very sad day.
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree he came close to being progressive. Actually, his record doesn't match his rhetorics.
August 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bullshit.
And get a friggin' haircut.
August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he's right. Look into Edwards' voting record while in the Senate, and go back and read some of his own statements prior to November 2004. I know because he was my Senator in NC at the time.
Without relitigating the primary battles, John Edwards did a great job positioning himself as a progressive, but honestly, his record never matched his rhetoric.
August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly right, that is why I never supported him.
Lord knows I got in some battles over this on DKos with people like TomP. I just never trusted Edwards, he reminded me of the Smiler from Transmetropolitan. I guess I was right and they were wrong.
August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Same here. I feel like I (finally) picked the right horse from the get-go, but I do feel for those that believed in and fought for John Edwards.
All I can say is, I honestly believe we got the best person for the job this time around. I feel for those former Edwards supporters and even the Clinton holdouts, but in the end, need to move on.
August 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mitchumm22, it's true. Edwards is not a progressive. Just look at his senate record. He was a blue dog. When he ran for president, he pretended to be a liberal to get the nomination. Russ Feingold called him a phony.
I'm sorry if you bought that dog 'n pony show but it simply wasn't legit.
August 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks has very little to do with having affairs.
August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
It does for me.
August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
classy.
August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The country could give a shit about Edwatds who is trailer trash and lawyer who helps only alive children as the awards are larger, living in a multi-million house. He was a one term senator for a reason... namely he could not get re-elected in NC in 2004.
White trash at its best (and yes, just like Bill!).
August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
John is the father of that baby. I have no doubt in my mind. The guy is a loose cannon like Bill Clinton
August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I wish he justed admitted he being a fatherhood and end the story and may be settle in Canada or something. He is just prolonging the story by being denying what seems to be the obvious.
And what's with stupid-"I hadn't had an affair long enough to be a father"? Does he need some Biology lessons.
I didn't mind when Bill had an affair and I don't care Edwards has a mistress. The convuluted lies and ongoing sagas that really bother me.
August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess it means that the affair ended more than nine months before the baby was born.
August 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, then what was he doing in a hotel with her two weeks ago. The affair never ended, when you connect the dots.
August 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
The baby could be premature.
August 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rielle Hunter to John Edwards:
You had me at: "my dad was a Mill Worker".
August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is funny.
August 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Edwards is and was and always will be a SCUMBAG. Oh, and the baby is HIS!
McClain/Clinton 2008!
August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
This excellent news, for John McClain.
August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stupid son of a bitch! And I say this as someone who would have voted for Edwards in 2008 if he hadn't dropped out and someone who voted for him in 2004. Elizabeth deserves better.
August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will be interesting to see how this is handled by the GOP. They can't really attack on it at all because the Dems could just throw McCain's past in their face.
I think this really could go away by Monday.
August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does this mean Ann Coulter can't all him a faggot anymore?
August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly enough that was my thought too.
Luckily he is out of the race.
August 8, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Transference is inevitable.
August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
To McCain?
I guess I can see that. He does have a history after all.
August 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that were/is true, McCain would be/is going to be in a world of hurt. Oh yeah, that only applies to dems.
August 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo!
August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Expect the whisper campaign and push polling of "If Edwards, who finished 3rd in the Dem Primary and endorsed Barack, could have a love child why not Obama too?"
August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the heck was he doing there unless he is that baby's father? If he had an ounce of sense or savvy, he would have stayed miles away. Sorry for Elizabeth, his children, and this baby, whoever the father may be. Now she's an asterisk, and the paparazzi will be chasing her and the mother around. Ugh.
August 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's totally his kid.
August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guess we know now, why he didn't come out and support Obama earlier. They probably wanted nothing to do with the guy!
August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
As far as I'm concerned, he's persona non grata. Being a leader is about judgment and Edwards has shown he's not a leader. It's bad enough that he had an affair, but he did so when he was essentially running for president. What does this tell us about him? In this age, with his high profile, he chose to have an affair and then engineered a lame cover-up and then lied about it when the story first broke. He was originally my first choice this time around. But he showed he doesn't have the judgment to run for dogcatcher, let alone president. Screw him.
August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think some people in these comments are really over-reacting to this with righteous outrage that is completely unwarranted.
John Edwards had an affair that ended in 2006. He told his wife and family about it and they dealt with/are dealing with it.
He ended the affair and told his family about it BEFORE he started running for president.
For this reason, i don't think it would have been crippling to his campaign had it come out. It would have been a huge sensationalistic story (our friends inthe corporate media would have made sure of that), but seeing as how it ended before his presidential run, and seeign as how he came clean with his family (who are really the only ones with any right to be outraged at this) BEFORE he started running for president, i don't see how this is THAT big of a deal.
August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're stupid if you believe the affair ended in 2006 and that he told his family about it. What was he doing at the hotel seeing her and the baby if it was over?
Edwards ran for president and kept screwing around. Arrogant SOB.
August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
i don't know why he met with her.
maybe to tell her that the story was going to become public and that she should prepare herslef for that.
and that's quite a conclusion you jump to with absolutely no evidence to support your claim that he "kept screwing around."
August 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it isn't that big a deal and wouldn't have hurt his candidacy then he should have publicly acknowledged the affair when asked about it by the press at/near the start of the campaign.
By lying about it:
a) he generates a huge amount of anger from any journalists that accepted his denial and didn't follow up on the story then.
b) runs the risk that the story and his lies become public knowledge after he wins the nomination.
Perhaps it should be possible for a candidate to admit a recent affair and still be a viable presidential candidate. By his actions, Edwards prevented us from finding out if that time has come.
August 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
And by the way, I do think someone's marriage vows should mean something.
Having an affair should not be a career ending move for a politician but it is not 'none of our business' when someone who wants to run the country demonstrates a lack of judgement and integrity in that manner.
August 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing is for sure:
With the Olympics, the Russia-Georgia war and now this bombshell, the McCain ad will be lost in the whirlpool of press & TV, just like a drop of water in the desert. Like the news that Cheney will go to St.Paul after all.
If there's something the media LOVES to cover is politicians' extra-marital affairs. Even Fox News will have their hands full.
PD: Watch the Olympics opening. It's nothing but pure awesomeness.
August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, um Edwards having an affair renders him unfit for any office or cabinet post, but John McCain's affair ans subsequent abandonment is okay because...?
August 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's affair and abandonment are not OK as far as I'm concerned. But what to do about it...
August 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
After viewing the four missing webisodes on u-tube last year, I became strongly convinced that Edwards would have been a disastrous candidate for the Dems.
Edwards supporters should really google the "Edwards missing webisodes", and see for yourself. His girlfriend filmed these "spontaneous" videos, and it was a)clear he was having an affair b)with a bimbo c)displayed an extraordinary degree of vanity d)had absolutely no judgment evidenced by the fact that he reviewed these videos and posted them on his website.
Democrats ducked a bullet.
August 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
there isn't a single person who ever ran for president that wasn't guilty of 'vanity'. give me a break.
August 8, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's lied about this before.
August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The mere fact that we are discussing private affairs of anyone on a "progressive" blog proves there's a big fat Newt Gingrich in every one of us.
We instantly rush to blame and judge, just like we were taught. And we don't realize that people in situations like this lie because they know that we were taught to blame and judge.
Looks like once you enter political life in America, your dick becomes the property of your party. Obtain RNC/DNC clearance prior to use.
August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scroll up, Lalo - I addressed you upthread on this.
O - And don't be a sanctimonious twit.
August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy this thread filled up fast!!!
And... more importantly...
You're talking to me? You're talking to me???
Oh happy day! Mon amour!
:-) :-)
August 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the fuck? If he have won the election, we'd be totally fucked!
Jesus. We really dodged a bullet here.
Wow.
August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
While this is interesting grist for the gossip mill and it makes for good scandal here in America, I fail to see the relevance and/or newsworthiness of the personal/private lives of American politicians who are no different than the rest of the population. Of course this is politically problematic and so forth but why? Because the United States is an immature, moralistic and hypocritical nation and that hypocrisy is nowhere as apparent as it is in politics and the media.
Why is this anyone's business? What really is the difference between this and simply celebrity gossip? It's all none of our business and has no bearing at all on the parts of Edwards' life or the life of any elected official that is the public's business. The "issue" here is purely a personal matter. It isn't illegal. When such an incident involves lawbreaking or glaring hypocrisy as in the cases of Craig or Vittert or Spitzer then it seems newsworthy to me. But a simple affair or infidelity (tawdry and sad as it may be) hardly seems to rise to the level of news in my opinion. There are far more important and interesting things going on every single day that ought to garner the attention of the media. Affairs and infidelity, in fact, are behaviors that are quite common in the lives of Americans of all walks of life and professions as we all know very well. In my opinion it shouldn't be news unless it has some genuine bearing on public policy or the public's genuine business. After all, professionals and business leaders of all types carry on affairs, marry and divorce spouses, get "trophy wives", etc... and it rarely is news, nor does it typically cost them their careers as it often does with politicians.
This situation with Edwards' private life, however, is nothing but gossip that is none of my business or yours. It is a matter for him and those directly involved to deal with. It is nothing that concerns the American public. It is sad that this sort of thing goes on in our public life and in our media and that it does not get loudly rejected by the American people as inappropriate and pointless. I also, by the way, believe similar publicity about the private lives of nonpolitical celebrities is just as unjustified and vile as this. The lurid and pointless speculation is an embarassment to us all.
August 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
i agree with you 100%.
August 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wholeheartedly concur.
August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
it's a fucking shame that there is not enough of this sort of sentiment in this thread. instead the comments are all chock full of sanctimonious busybody bullshit. thanks oleeb. as always one of the precious few voices of reason.
August 8, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Having an affair while your wife has cancer and your children are worried sick about the health of their mother is bad enough. But the guy ran for president knowing all of this was hanging over his head. He gambled with all of our future and our children's future. That's some big balls.
August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
she was in remission. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.
August 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
So his political career is over. That's just the way it works now.
But I wish we could go back to the old rule that private lives are private, unless a law was broken. Maybe mere hypocrisy should be enough to warrant exposing a person's private life. But we're way beyond that.
By 2012, candidates will have to fill out questionnaires on their sex practices. By 2016, there'll be reality-show tv's in their bedrooms and bathrooms.
August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never could understand the attraction to this ambulance chaser lawyer. Lack of experience, lack of substance, lack of character. He reminded me of a bad car sales man...too slick and my instincts were right on.......He is a nothing, with lots of money.
August 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real point is that John Edwards could have caused a terrible disaster. He is so lost in his ego and ambition that he ran for the Democratic nomination believing that he could get away with this and never thinking - or caring - that he could have destroyed any hope of ousting the Republicans. He's Bill Clinton and Roger Clemens rolled into one: "I'm so fantastic the rules don't apply to me."
And if Elizabeth knew all this before the primary season began she's just as clueless and awful. Sorry, I don't wish her ill, hope she regains her health, but they can go fuck themselves (for a change) after endagering the country.
Imagine if this came out after he'd won the nomination. Or imagine if this came out after Obama asked him to be VP.
What a moron.
August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I tell you what - '
I agree with you. It's incredibly arrogant and downright selfish for someone who knows this is out there to run for the presidency.
It sure shows very little regard for the voters or for Democrats who believe in you.
I'm terribly disillusioned. It's one thing to make a mistake; it's another to pretend that it doesn't matter.
August 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're just upset 'cause the ugly broad is better-looking that you!
August 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
creep.
August 8, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
it doesn't matter. mind your business.
August 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's the fact that he still ran for President with this a secret. That is my only beef with him really. Imagine if he had one the nod and was running against McCain right now?
August 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
So if Obama is forced to admit an affair the week after the convention, he's no longer the shit? And if he did, how would you vote and what will happen to your support of him?
Just curious...
August 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
how would this make him look worse than mccain???
August 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
really, if anything if edwards had won the nomination, this 'news' would only end up making mccain's affair(s) an issue which would hurt mccain with his base a lot more than edwards' affair would hurt him with his his base.
August 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Couple of thoughts
1. Very sad for Elizabeth. She has breast cancer and doesn't need this crap.
2. Angry at Edwards for putting the Dem party at risk because he had an affair. We went through Bill Clinton and this would have been a disaster if Edwards was the nominee.
3. Obama picked a damn good week to go on vacation. Not only will people in general be focused on the Olympics and Clinton drama but the political world will NOT be focusing so much on McCain's negative ads and "why isn't Obama higher in the polls" but now this WILL be the talk of the political world. Nobodies message will get heard for awhile including McCain's. So Obama got lucky in choosing this week to disappear.
4. I wonder if the media will take a closer look at McCain's affairs at all. McCain is a cheater himself but the media has never focused on this and Dems are too nice to even bring this up.
August 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
He broke his deal for me (to the degree that I ever would have given him a serious look) with his dissembling bullshit on gay marriage. As a fucking attorney running for president, you'd think he'd have read the Massachusetts Supreme Court decision, which vividly delineates a whole constellation of rights that are only afforded a couple through marriage, not through civil unions. His pseudo-soul-searching, heterosexually pseudo-superior pontificating on the subject has him on the one hand drawing, with fake earnestness, on his southern Baptist religious principles, yet he was flippant enough to state, on the Tonight Show, that he only knew about his wife's opposing view on the issue from having read it in the paper. How full of shit is this guy? I bet he's the father of that kid. Watch that kid part his hair on the right 10 years from now.
August 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still, despite everything, I'll continue to defend Edwards if republicans attempt to play a double standard with this sad ordeal. Lets not forget that John McCain also has an infidelity problem. And unlike Edwards who holds no public office, McCain is the republican nominee for president.
August 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is sad, but is it important? I wonder how many men and women have extramarital affairs ? In the elections I voted in, there have been rumors about Eisenhower having had a mistress during the war, JFK mistresses in Hollywood and other parts of the globe, Nixon, George I, Bill Clinton, and some say George II in his youth. The country seems to have survived these adultries, but it has not survived the really important news: loss of civil liberties, the collapse of the middle class, and the conversion of the Government into a corrupt operation. Would that ABC had devoted as much effort to covering the wireless tapping and its implication for our future. The same for TPM.
August 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how many men and women have extramarital affairs
Hell, I can't help but wondering how many people posting in this thread have had extramarital affairs.
It might explain the intensity of some of the reactions, at least.
August 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
seriously. odds are with the great number of people who have posted that more than a few of the folks here have been unfaithful.
though probably for most people it's more about the guilt they feel for still having the desires to have sexual and/or romantic relations with someone other than their spouses than it is about any guilt for actually having cheated.
there are a lot of things fucked up about the american psyche but toward the top of the list is the mass delusion that monogamy is some sort of natural and perfect state and anything else is simply deviant all evidence of human behavior to the contrary.
August 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards is a jerk for tarnishing himself and the Democratic Party by having an affair. But it pales in comparison with the crimes of the Bush administration, and in the end he will pay a higher price than they will.
August 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sad, but probably true.
August 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, everyone will be morally outraged about Edwards, but this will get nary a mention in the MSM:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/putting-them-in.html
August 8, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP/conservatives won't touch this from a "O my god, he cheated on his wife!" perspective. They've been damaged too much on that front recently and as others have duly noted, McCain is no saint on this front at all. (I mean, the Reagans ended their friendship with the guy because of what he did to his first wife) Plus, Edwards was already pretty much a political has-been with no real relationship or history with Obama. And while I'll probably regret saying this, Obama is squeaky clean on the fidelity front.
The Corner has been on this story for at least the last 1-2 weeks and I think the angle they've been taking is the one that the rest of the wingnuts will follow - "Why didn't the media cover this until he admitted the affair? If this has been a Republican, blah, blah, blah..." Plays into the old "liberal media" BS and dovetails nicely into the complaint that the media is giving Obama not only a pass but actual support. (not true, but that's their story and their sticking to it)
In short, they won't make this about Edwards or the Dems, they'll make it about the so-called liberal media.
PS - That kid is his. And while what he does with his sex life and his marriage is his own business, putting together a serious run for the Dem nomination with this going on was both foolish and selfish.
August 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whether or not this should matter is moot. A breaking scandal is a disaster. McCain may have been a total dog, but that's ancient history. And Edwards is not believable on the paternity front. The pregnancy is what put the Enquirer on the scent in the first place, he was probably screwing around in 2004, too. Didn't any of you ever think he was a player before this? Look at him...he's a peacock; his wife is beautiful, brilliant...and 4 or 5 years older and on the dumpy side. I bet he had babes flinging themselves at him. And now he's got a real babe on his hands. Pride goeth.
August 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama picked a perfect week to go on vacation. This news should consume the Media for most of the weekend and then next week will be mostly Olympics coverage.
I do agree, this would have been a disaster had he won the nomination. I would like to think that someone running for President would have better sense.
August 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was my Senator. I really believed in him when he won in '98, and steadily my confidence waned. He's always been very self-centered in chasing his political ambitions (which put him on bad terms with many in the state party) - poor constituent service, announced late in '04, putting Bowles behind the 8 ball, etc. He's also an incredible phony, especially with the newfound faux populism.
It was easier for NC natives to see because we had "known" him longer. He always makes a good first impression.
John Kerry was perceptive to not trust him, and dumb to put him on the ticket anyway. Obama was perceptive not to kiss his ass as profusely as Edwards would have liked (or offer him VP).
His children are supposedly very nice people, and my heart goes out to them. Elizabeth, too - it must have been very hard to think rationally in the light of her diagnosis and this news. It wasn't good for the party that she pushed him to run and then not to drop out, but I think we need to cut her some slack.
If the media had any shame, they would tie this back into McCain's no less disgusting behavior.
August 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess it takes a super ego to enter the grind also known as american politics. Mother Teresa would have been chewed over and spat out like a piece of chewing gum if she were a citizen and had the guts to run for anything.
August 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
O I have my problems with Mother Theresa without her having to run.
I get too much of a whiff of: "O aren't the poor little ones lovely in their suffering for Jesus." And what India needs is birth control - not Catholics.
August 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm seriously considering offering you an illicit clandestine affair and then lying to the whole TPM about it. Whaddya think?
On another note: remember how Clinton and Obama were running around promising that JE "would be part of anything we do?"
Feels weird now.
August 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow. finally something we agree on!
August 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suspected this was true. I thin it's terrible that Edwards would do this. Today's my wedding anniversary so I am ultra-especially appreciative of the woman I chose to marry. She fabulously funny, smart, beautiful and I am a lucky man that she chose me. But, I just want to say that what John Edwards did was hurtful and wrong and must have been/must be so humiliating for Elizabeth, one of America's true leaders.
It also helps propel the image of charismatic leaders being unfaithful. Never an Edwards backer in 2008, I still thought he was a good person who was right on the issues. But, to have an affair -- and likely a child -- with another woman is just about the most selfish thing he could have done. Thankfully, of course, we have a better nominee. Can you imagine dealing with this if Edwards were our nominee?
August 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do not forget that Strom Thurmond fathered a child by a 16 year old African American maid in his parent's home, and when it came out almost fifty years later, The Republican Establishment did not utter one word of condemnation. If they try to make hay out of this Edwards affair, make sure to bring up how they covered for their old racist creep.
August 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that worked so well for us when Henry Hyde and Dan Burton were leading the fight to impeach Bill Clinton's penis.
August 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have ALL sinned and fallen short of the glory. All of us....
August 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but not ALL of us run for president.
August 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the McCain camp should stay away from this as far as they can be. Since McCain cheated on his first wife with Cindy McCain which most Americans do not know this, it's best they just stay away.
August 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hell, Let's not forget that King George and his Condi still are secret in their affair! Isn't it true that Laura is moving out on her own to Dallas right after 1-20-09? It's true isn't it, Tena?
August 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Laura Bush seems like a decent woman. She's even pro-choice and she used to be a librarian, which means she values all that Frenchified pussy shit like knowing things and reading.
I'm really hoping what you are saying is true! It would be great if she left him on 1/20/09.
August 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait to see how the media spins this into being a problem for Obama.
August 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, how chivalrous of him to only start the affair after his wife was in remission. Now, his wife is dying and he seems to have resumed the affair. So, he makes no sense whatsoever.
And if the kid isn't his, why on earth was he in that hotel room with the woman and the kid in the middle of the night ? How on earth did he think the story wouldn't come out ?
He showed very bad judgment.
August 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is disappointing. But, I shudder to think of what this country would be like if we disqualified all the men (and women) who had sexual dalliances from their positions of leadership in our government.
It is worse to be a hypocrite (ala Gingrich, Hyde, Thurmond) than be a sinner; I refer you to the Sermon on the Mount and important principles in other world religions...
I am glad that he wasn't the choice even though he was my favorite candidate - because if this did come out during the general campaign it would have been devastating as our US culture still obsesses over sex but doesn't seem to care about Wars based on lies, or the government listening into your phone calls or checking your library records...
August 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any minute now there will be a joint press conference with Senators Larry Craig and David Vitter condemning Edwards' actions.
August 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I AM TOTALLY BUMMED OUT BY THIS
But I refuse to read a single word about it because its just none of my business.
August 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I AM TOTALLY BUMMED OUT BY THIS
But I refuse to read a single word about it because its just none of my business.
August 8, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm afraid the real scandal hasn't been brought (back) to front and center yet but, it will be soon. Huffpo was on this thing hard, way back before he dropped out of the primaries. Apparently, Edwards' campaign--not rich boy Johnny himself, but his campaign-- paid Rielle a really ridiculous amount of money for work she'd done as a no-experience film maker and then all of the footage went mysteriously down the memory hole along with any other trace or mention of her.
The article was heavy on the insinuation that he was having an affair with her but had not real evidence. As I recall, I blessed them out in the comments for the scandal-mongering insinuation if they had no evidence, but, at the same time it definitely gave me pause.
As to whether the kid is really his, I don't think a good trial lawyer would be denying that when he's coming clean about everything else if it isn't true, given how easy that fact is to establish. Especially not with the tabs on the trail given how, well, copiously little kids shed DNA. If he is lying about that, he's an even bigger fool than I thought.
Why was did he meet her? Possibly to tell her the story was about to break. Enquirer could have said "hey, we're about to break the story" and then put a tail on him hoping to catch him in something just like this.
Gad, my mom is going to be the engineer of the fucking Vindication Express next time we talk. She's never liked or trusted Edwards. I may have to avoid calling her for an unconscionably long time just to dodge it.
Christ, what a bullet-dodge. And thank god he held off endorsing so long that it didn't make any difference to the outcome.
August 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is too bad for his family. I liked him until the hairdo incident, which made me suspicious of his good looks. Luckily he is not the nominee. The National Enquirer is often right about these things. Just sayin...
August 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Karma:
"I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."
-- John Edwards, quoted by the Raleigh News & Observer in 1999, on Bill Clinton.
August 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. Priceless.
TalkLeft has a transcript of what all 3 Dems said to Couric on infidelity in 2007, a little after JE affair.
Good read.
August 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good catch. Of course, he was only one of several holier-than-thou political types with their own skeletons who were "horrified" by Clinton's affairs.
August 8, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes Cindy was the Other Woman, so what has John Edwards done that anyone else has not done, It is sad that this is how we think in this society, but we all just want to be happy. We really don't think of the consequenses; we just want to be happy, or to think we are happy. It is just so
ironic that this story would break now, this has been going on for a while, but just today it is out...hhhmmm I wonder who call the National Inquirer and had this done...sounds rep-tile to me...
I see no one is talking about te fact that some seem to have dementia and get confused sometimes and forget what he is talking about...
My prayers and all prayers should be with the Edwards family, this is so sad.
August 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet this just makes the voters feel like Edwards is one of them. Many of them can relate to this. Men and women. Especially millions of married folks given the sky high divorce rate in this country.
Edwards is just a regular guy. At least he can bowl and drink beer with the fellas. Cause he is jsut a plain ol mill workers son.
Hasn't everyone been listening. The voters want someone 'like them' not a 'celebrity' but an asswipe like McCain who calls his wife 'c' in public. Thousands of Americans relate to this dysfunction BS and they would still vote for Edwards.
And they will excuse McCain because he is a Maverick and vote for him.
The right to lifers are happy too because she had the baby and Edwards looks just like the proud papa holding up his daughter in that Esquirer photo.
Typical, down home southern trailer trash saga.
Lots of folks relate to it.
August 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good thing he didn't get the nomination, then.
August 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am mainly being the devil's advocate here, but no one really knows what was going on inside the Edwardses marriage. It is possible that they were not intimate, but clearly still loved each other. Side effects of what Elizabeth's illness and treatments could include decreased libido. That coupled with the fact that they probably spend a lot less time together than the average couple, can definitely increase the risk of Edwards straying. Not to mention that he is a good-looking guy with very nice (and well coiffed) hair. I am not justifying infidelity, just trying to explain it.
On the other hand, it is monumentally stupid to run for public office, let alone POTUS, on a platform of change and honesty, and then act as most other politicians/people in power have in the past. At least put the trouser-snake away until after you have won something!
August 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everybody knows this -- me, you, even that pathetic dork Teeeeeeeeeeena.
An explosion just like this one is coming in the Autumn. Obama will become O-BOMBA!
Don't know what it is, something: sex, drugs, some stooopid video with his kids attacking whitey.
It's coming. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. . .
August 8, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Riiiiight. Cause if you wish and wish and wish for something hard enough, and believe with all your heart, magic fairies will come in the night and make all your dreams come true.
Dumbass.
August 8, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I knew Edwards was a dirtbag the moment he announced he was supporting Oilbama. Unfortunatly this is typical of the types of peoplem that are Oilbama supporters. How the Obamabots cheered when he announced his support for their Messiah.
Thank goodness he is not associated with Hillary or McCain.
August 8, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink