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Washington Post Editorial Falsely Claims Iraqi Political Leaders Don't Support Obama's Withdrawal Plan

Pro-war Washington Post editorial page editor Fred Hiatt has come up with a creative way to deal with al-Maliki's inconvenient endorsement of Obama's pull-out timeline: Pretend it never happened.

A WaPo editorial today On Obama's Iraq trip begins as follows...

THE INITIAL MEDIA coverage of Barack Obama's visit to Iraq suggested that the Democratic candidate found agreement with his plan to withdraw all U.S. combat forces on a 16-month timetable. So it seems worthwhile to point out that, by Mr. Obama's own account, neither U.S. commanders nor Iraq's principal political leaders actually support his strategy.

The basis for this claim? The editorial continues...

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who has a history of tailoring his public statements for political purposes, made headlines by saying he would support a withdrawal of American forces by 2010. But an Iraqi government statement made clear that Mr. Maliki's timetable would extend at least seven months beyond Mr. Obama's. More significant, it would be "a timetable which Iraqis set" -- not the Washington-imposed schedule that Mr. Obama has in mind.

Now, there's a certain beauty in Hiatt's claim that the fact that the Iraqi government's timetable would extend seven months beyond Obama's somehow shows that Iraqi leaders don't support Obama's timing. After all, WaPo's headline writers were pushing this self-evidently absurd claim the other day, something Josh suggested might show that the edit page's slant was bleeding on to the news pages. Now here they are both pulling the same rhetorical hoax, like a pair of bumbling confidence-men who both accidentally play the same part in a two-person con-game.

To reiterate, the "seven month" claim is borderline farce.

The Iraqi government's desire for the troops to be out "by" the end of 2010 doesn't preclude them being out a couple months earlier. So in no way does this show that Iraqi leaders don't support Obama's plan. But never mind that. The larger obvious point here is that the Iraqi government's aims are infinitely, incalculably closer to Obama's than to McCain's. They're virtually identical with Obama's aims.

As for the fact that Iraqi leaders say they want a "timetable that Iraqis set," this doesn't in any way indicate that Iraqi leaders don't support Obama's time-line, either. The timetable that Iraqis have informally set is Obama's timetable.

Bottom line: Obama wants the troops out in 16 months. Iraqi leaders want them out by some time in 2010. In other words, they agree with Obama. How do we know this? Why, al-Maliki specifically said so! Quibbling over a month here or there on the margins of the 16 months or over who is "officially" setting the time-line itself is hackery at its most burlesque.


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The Washington Post is now officially an apologist.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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The gall of an Iraqi politician like Prime Minister Maliki, having "a history of tailoring his public statements for political purposes."

Fred Hiatt is accusing Maliki of lying about wanting a 2010 timetable. I don't imagine it's good for U.S. - Iraqi relations to have the editor of a big newspaper making such accusations. It could antagonize our allies there and hurt our military mission in Iraq. Why does Fred Hiatt hate the troops?

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Absolutely! Hiatt's favorite politician, GW Bush, would never be seen "tailoring his public statements for political purposes." He's all manly and resolute and stuff; politics never enters into it!

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I think we can safely assume at this point that the WaPo is out to deep six Obama's chances.

I guess they just love the war.

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Of course they do, they're too invested in it.

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Well, you always love your children, no matter how wrong they go.

Let's not forget this Maliki quote from Der Spiegel either:

SPIEGEL: Is this an endorsement for the US presidential election in November? Does Obama, who has no military background, ultimately have a better understanding of Iraq than war hero John McCain?

Maliki: Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic.

That's sad. It's really weak spin, first of all. Really, really weak, as Josh points out.

But it's doubly sad because of the way the editorial/news boundary seems to be getting blurred at WaPo. I hear it was once a pretty good paper.

It was once a wonderful paper. I grew up in the D.C. area and our heroes were Woodward & Bernstein (that's also changed), and the fearless investigating reporter was the romantic ideal.
It's painful for me to look at the editorial pages of the Post these days (which is why I rarely do it). We only get the Post because my husband is a technophobe and doesn't like to get his info on-line. He knows who the good reliable reporters are in the Post, and he loves Meyerson, E.J. Dionne and Colbert King.

And there's more from the NYT piece on direct translation of the Maliki tape:

The following is a direct translation from the Arabic of Maliki's comments by The Times: "Obama's remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq."

He continued: "Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq."

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Well my feeling is that most voters would read that editorial and think: well fuck the Iraqis, I want us out of there.

I really do.

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You take one step closer to the reality of the situation than anyone else has thus far:

The final decision about the length of our military presence in Iraq is bookended, on one side -the short term- by our policy, on the other -the long term- by Iraqi policy. If Prime Minister Maliki wants us out in 23 months and hypothetical President Obama wants us out in 16 months, the closest we'll come to 23 months is splitting the difference out of diplomatic kindness. This distinction being drawn by the Post is just an effort to put distance between Maliki's statement and Obama's position, or rather an effort to put distance between REALITY and the Bush-McCain funeral pyre that is the 2008 election.

As I've said before, most Americans' like/dislike for the war has always been based more on concern for our own country. The wants of the Iraqi people are, strangely enough, secondary.

Exactly. They proved it by voting for Bush second time around and showed the world that the americans couln't care a rat's ass for the Iraqi people.

Feel what you want. Most voters won't read any editorials. They will get their news on television from carefully edited sources, like CBS, then run out and buy the stool softener
that sponsors the s...!

Katherine was no lefty, but she must be spinning in her grave when she sees what has happened to her newspaper!

Ms. Graham's tit missed Nixon and Mitchell's wringer. Her heirs kicked her legacy in the twat.

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Stay classy, Ricky... Stay classy...

As an old timer, I'm often asked, Boomer, what's the difference between Washington politics today
and when you were growing up?

Well, when I was growing up Washington had a classy newspaper but no baseball team.

From everything I've seen of Katherine Weymouth, it appears the gene pool has been considerably diluted.

One can be nothing but encouraged when one's opponent is clearly flailing...

All right, gather the torches and pitchforks....

let's take back our media. mainstream, my ass!

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Oh, why doesn't the dang Post just merge with the Washington Times already and get it over with?

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Because the right reverend Moon is way too classy to partner with the Grahams?

there are some things a rat just wont do

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David Brinkley's "Washington Goes to War" portrayed the town in 1941 as a provincial, inbred, smallminded company town: Sauk Center with a marble Rotary Hall. Has anything changed?

McCain may be hopeless, but he's One Of Them, like Bush. He won't wreck the place. They won't have to update their Christmas card list, or learn a whole bunch of new names, or mistake a new Undersecretary of Commerce for one of the caterers.

Other than stuff fed to them by the Vice President, has the WaPo scored a beat on anything since 2001?

Unfortunately, there are some who still believe that the Washington Post leans to the left. This belief is not based on substance, but rather reputation of a time long since past. This makes these kind of inaccurate editorials from the Washington Post all the more damaging, as the 24hour news culture latches on to them as if they are is presenting an alternative view. "Look," they say, "Even the Washington Post is agreeing with us."

The so-called "liberal media" will always be the right-wing's favorite strawman. No matter how much MSM outlets suck up to conservatives, they'll continue to get kicked in the teeth. It is simply a tactical ploy and has nothing to do with fairness or accuracy.

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And the fact that there's an entire TV news network dedicated to getting and keeping the GOP in power. Notice I didn't say getting the GOP elected. 2000 proved that getting power doesn't depend on getting elected by a majority.

Old WaPo: Nixon aides linked to Watergate cash

New WaPo: Nixon ID's burglars Cuban links.

New wapo would say nothing because Nixon's spying would be seen as a homeland security issue.

The seven month claim also includes the assumption that troops start withdrawing the day Obama comes into office. But Obama will only give the new mission on that day. The surge was announced four months before it began. Subtract four from seven, and you get a three month gap.

Also missing here is that this is combat troops, and Obama says the exact ending stance is something to be negotiated with Iraq and based on conditions.

. . . and you'll notice that Obama is starting to use the "2010" timetable for withdrawal to coincide with Iraq's now official stance.

We're seeing a concerted Republican pushback. Dan Senor was just on Diane Rehm, and he spun al Maliki's statement as pandering to the Iraqi people. The best part was when Mr. Senor expressed worry that as President, Sen. Obama might listen to what the Iraqi government was saying rather than talking to the commanders on the ground.

At least they're now admitting that Iraq is not sovereign.

yes, al Maliki is "pandering" to the 80-90% of Iraqis who wanted us out in 2006, and continue to want us out.

Next up, Senor tries to convince his wife that sex with prostitutes will strengthen their marriage.

Senor is right. Maliki and the Iraqi government are not ready and need our steady hand. Look how badly they pander to their own people. For heavens sake, pandering to the Iraqi voters in
a German magazine is ludicrous. Everyone know Iraqi voters can't read English!

So does that mean that US oil companies can safely ignore the al-Maliki Baghdad government and just go and cut their own deal the Kurds on oil fields and revenues? Great, quoting GWB, that would be "a very positive moment in the development of a sovereign nation". See, given a few days after some bad news, these clowns can find a way to twist and torture, convolute and obfuscate the truth until it vanishes in a great cesspool of BS.

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Hiatt would have made a good Allied p.r. manipulator on the Western front.
Think how history would look differently at butcher Haig had Hiatt been at the Somme and at Ypres.

Great, great piece, Greg. Hits ALL the right points.

And don't forget this: The WaPo seems to be saying that the American Government AND the Iraqi Government AGREEING on the future of America's troops there, is NOT the best scenario.

Truly farcical. I hope other major newspapers call Hiatt on his asshattery.

"When they stand up, then we'll stomp them down" George W. Bush


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What's most disgusting about this particular spin is that is sweeps nicely under the carpet that the U.S. Special Forces recently went into Karbala province, without informing Iraqis, and killed al-Maliki's cousin gangster-style. They took him into a room and shot him.

Obviously our media and political overlords have make a nice habit of ignoring anything that actually happens in Iraq, but this is vile, even for jags like Dan Senor/Fred Hiatt.

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Link?

my bad, here's the link, from McClatchy:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/42641.html

I should add that the military released a statement days after the event which insisted soldiers saw Mr. Bell with a gun *before* taking him into a room and shooting him.

I'd also guess at this point there are two sources for Repub. panic. The obvious one is the damage these stories have done to McCain's campaign.

The other is a guess--but they are responding to Obama's/al-Maliki's statements as if they secretly know U.S. withdrawal will benefit Iraq in the short and long-term. They wouldn't be so scared if they didn't think the strategy would actually pay off.

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Over at NRO's The Corner, recent addition (and long-time tool) Peter Kirsanow had this to say about the WaPo editorial this morning:

In another sign of how political discourse has degenerated into spin and sound bite, the reigning narrative is that Obama's trip to Iraq was a big success — and a problem for McCain — because Obama's 16 month withdrawal timetable was vindicated by al- Maliki. Today's Washington Post editorial notes that, in fact, neither al-Maliki nor Gen. Petraeus support Obama's plan and other Iraqi leaders are strongly critical.

That's what many of us thought we heard — but once a narrative has been set everyone seems to run with it, even if they know it's not true. Do facts matter anymore?
Yes, Peter, facts do matter. You should bone up on them before posting.

The Iraqi government has endorsed the concept of a timetable for withdrawal of coalition forces from Iraq, which is the heart of the Obama strategy. While they differ on whether that might take 16 months vs. 23 months, this is a distinction without difference. The point is, from day 1 in office, President Obama will set of mission of withdrawing troops, and they will largely be out by the 2010 midterms.

May God forgive al Maliki for pandering to the Iraqi people!
Whether Maliki's comportment with Obama's timetable is an expression of Iraqi popular will, political expediency, or whatever! is all quite irrelevant. Iraq wants us out, and 50% of the presidential field is on board with that. The Republicans are simply trying out numerous shades of lipstick on their pig of a presidential campaign.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who has a history of tailoring his public statements for political purposes,

"That is outrageous. U.S. forces must stay in Iraq until it's elected officials stop tailoring public statements for political purposes."
-John McCain

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shades of lipstick... that was great.

Lucky for them they can use both ends of that pig.

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It's like an alternate universe.

The same with CBS. Katie Couric has a "hard-hitting" interview with Obama, followed by that farce of a one with McCain, McCain makes a huge "gaffe", and everyone dismisses it as a "gaffe", and says that the voters don't really care about this.

That from a Reuters correspondent. Well, asshole, voters won't care about it if they don't know about it. McCain's base is busy at work, propping up this farce of a candidacy.

It's an alternate reality.

McCain's base is busy at work, propping up this farce of a candidacy

The GOP and it's corporate masters will prop up McCain while his base attends the monster truck rally.

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If we leave Iraq soon, how will KBR and Halliburton, not to mention Blackwater, make all that money? And how can they keep giving to the Republicans if they lose their cash cow? And how could Cheney allocate the Iraq oilfields if the Iraqi's take over?

No, it won't do. For Halliburton's profit margin, the war must go on.

BP

damn hippies - you missed it


While the United States has an interest in preventing the resurgence of the Afghan Taliban, the country's strategic importance pales beside that of Iraq, which lies at the geopolitical center of the Middle East and contains some of the world's largest oil reserves

whoopsie !

...by Mr. Obama's own account, neither U.S. commanders nor Iraq's principal political leaders actually support his strategy.

As a Navy veteran, this really bothers me, this thought that Obama should be concerned about what "US commanders" think. Commanders will say that they think whatever their Commander-in-Chief thinks. Admiral Mullen got into trouble precisely because he was making it clear that he disagrees with the current president. Good order and discipline requires that military commanders keep their opinions to themselves or to express those opinions in a deeply private and confidential manner.
It's perfectly okay for a commander to disagree with the C-in-C behind closed doors, it is most certainly not okay for Hiatt to run around suggesting "We've taken a poll of the commanders and they disagree with the incoming C-in-C!"
If the new C-in-C says what the new policy is, it's the job of commanders to snap to, salute smartly and carry out those orders.

Rich--hear, hear.

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The WaPo has deteriorated, just as Woodward, their star reporter, has.


People like Woodward, David Border, and Judy Miller, late of the NY times, have learned that brown nosing power is better for your career than speaking truth to it.

brown nosing power is better for your career than speaking truth to it

That has been the case since the earliest examples of human civilization. Each civilization thinks that it is an improvement over previous models but look, the powers that be are still demanding human sacrifice.

Today's media: Incompetents peddling stool softner to incontinents.

"Friends, the press and the government are in bed together in an embrace so intimate and wrong, they could spoon on a twin mattress and still have room for Ted Koppel. Journalists used to question the reasons for war and expose abuse of power. Now, like toothless babies, they suckle on the sugary teat of misinformation and poop it into the diaper we call the 6:00 News. Demand more of your government. Demand more of your press."
-Kent Brockman

McCain/Hiatt 2008!

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WaPo has really gone hill if they are nitpicking about 16 months vs 23 months. The Iraqi government spoke about "end" of 2010 which could just mean the latter half of 2010 not necessarily Dec 2010.

The bottom line is that Obama and the Iraqi government are in sync in a timeline that happens in 2010. I am sure if Obama becomes president those 16 months will NOT be exact but could be 14 months, 18 months, 23 months, etc.

Ending the war will NOT be an exact science and will realistically be a give-and-take about getting troops out. Obama is just stating the 16 months as a goal to strive for but he allows for flexibility.

Just ridiculousness...

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I'm sure that Editorial boards working late into the night to figure out spin for desperate Republican candidates is the surest way for the newspaper business to bring itself back to profitability.

I wonder if it ever occurred to the honchos at the NY Times and the WaPo that, if they'd just done their jobs competently - that is, investigate stories and report the news - that their newspaper businesss would be just fine. There is always a need for real information. It's when news organizations turn themselves into propaganda outlets that people feel the need to go elsewhere for information.

All the boo-hooing over the state of the news business is corporate self-pity and incompetence. Imagine if these august news organizations had revealed that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction. Imagine what their perceived value would be today. Instead, they abdicated their duty and turned themselves into whores. Now the whores are complaining that people don't find them attractive anymore. When Fred Hiatt spends his time fellating the Republican party, he makes himself repulsive to the rest of us.

You'd think this would be obvious, but I guess they won't learn til they're actually out of business.

The WaPo editorial board was always in the tank for the Iraqi War.

Things like that don't happen by accident. It must be profitable to them in some way. Figure out how and you'd have a REAL story.

It's clever how they do that.

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It all depends on the meaning of "month"...

Sidereal month?
Tropical month?
Anomalistic month?
Draconic month?
Synodic month?

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Ol' Katie Graham's spinning in her grave....

Fred Hiatt and the WaPo editorial board dug this hole for themselves years ago. Even the likes of Bill Kristol had nothing over WaPo's pre-invasion cheerleading. They've been trying to justify their blood-soaked boosterism ever since.

But today's WaPo editorial descends to depths where five-headed fishies consume one another. It's so bereft of reasoned argument and facts that I'm almost embarrassed for them. Hiatt is a neo-colonialist without a leg to stand on. He has made an utter fool of himself.

At minimum, this week has moved Obama into a draw with McLame on foreign policy credibility (from a national media perspective). Obama need only maintain this, as he will dominate McCain on bread-on-butter domestic issues between now and November.

And by all means, Senator McCain, keep talking. And giggling. Yes, talk and giggle....

Posting this for the millionth time:
WaPo will shill for whatever candidate will maintain NCLB. No Child Left Behind is the only thing standing between the Washington Post Company and insolvency. Obama is NOT that candidate, nor is any Dem.

Maybe this will help Hiatt understand the situation:
Obama and the Iraqis are in the same ballpark. McCain is on a different planet.

It's funny, but I'm noticing that more and more of my neighbors, who have always been a mix of Republican and Democratic, liberal and conservative, are starting to see through the little tricks that Mr. Hiatt and the rest of the corporate media use to try to force us into their view of the way things ought to be.

It seems that every few days I am completely surprised by another 72 year-old retired garbage man or 42 year-old day trader who tells me that they're really optimistic about the country if Barack Obama gets elected. This is Chicago after all, and my neighbors are lower middle-class, young yuppies and retired folks, as well as lots of the "hard-working" WHITE folks (you know, "regular" Americans). At least from around here, it looks like Barack Obama is going to win in a huge landslide.

I'm sure there are pockets of hard-core racists and GOP dead-enders, but there's no way they're going to get 150 electoral college votes, much less enough to win the White House.

I was more shocked by this assertion in the WaPo editorial:
"[Obama] insists that Afghanistan is "the central front" for the United States, along with the border areas of Pakistan. But there are no known al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, and any additional U.S. forces sent there would not be able to operate in the Pakistani territories where Osama bin Laden is headquartered."

So... Al-Qaeda is really head-quartered in Pakistan? Since before 2001? Guess W shoulda invaded Pakistan rather than Afghanistan, eh? Whoopsie!

More to the point, I think Obama insists that pressure be brought on Pakistan to act against Al-Qaeda operatives in Pakistan... But what would I know, I am not as informed as the WaPo editorial board.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1108171
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343332,00.html
(yes, even Fox!)
And even Admiral Mike Mullen:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/july-dec08/mullen_07-22.html

Bingo. Iraq is a major industry and it is generating billions upon billions of (your taxpayer) money for these companies -- and BP, Chevron, Shell haven't even gotten unzipped for the circle jerk. Who's going to take care of these business if their cash cow leaves? Who?

Hm. That response was supposed to be in response to billpaustin above. How'd that happen?

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Since Hiatt became editorial page editor, he's pretty much turned the WaPo into a milder version of creepy Paul Gigot's WSJ editorial section, except on matters related to the Middle East, in which his pages are a carbon copy of Gigot's. For example, they both demanded a pardon for Scooter Libby, endorsed the re-election of Joe Lieberman, and condemned Jimmy Carter as a Moslem appeaser. Every issue contains a column claiming that the War in Iraq has been a brilliant victory on the part of Bush and several times a week, someone makes a case for attacking Iran.

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