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McCain's Top Economic Adviser Describes "Mental Recession," Calls America "Nation Of Whiners"

Hmmmm. This really won't do much to allay John McCain's big disadvantage among voters who cite the economy as a leading concern.

Check out what Phil Gramm, the top economic adviser to McCain, had to say in a new interview:

"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."

"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.

Out of touch much? McCain's top economic adviser thinks we are in a "mental recession" and thinks America is a "nation of whiners."

This is becoming a pattern. As Think Progress points out, McCain recently said that a lot of our problems are "psychological." And as we noted here the other day, when asked if we are in a recession, McCain could only bring himself to say that "I would imagine that we are."

Late Update: The Democratic National Committee responds.

Late Late Update: The McCain campaign distances itself from Gramm's comments.


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what's going on technically with your comments -- any problems?

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Mine are working fine.

Note that the ONLY reason exports are strong is because the dollar is so weak, and a weak dollar hurts consumers.

Mine keep getting deleted at ABC so I'll try here.

In trying to distance himself from comments made by top economic adviser Phil Gramm, John McCain said "I did not have advice from that adviser, Phil Gramm." He denied that the holes left on his blue suit's lapel were from his "Phil Gramm for President '96" button.

The press, still shamed for their conduct during the Lewinski affair, returned to the important "nut cutting edge" Jesse Jackson story and the Jon Benet Ramsey exoneration.

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Greg, seems to be working now.

I'd add that if Obama had an effective surrogate strategy that could go on the offense, the "nation of whiners" quote could become a "bitter-gate" for McCain.

techincally, I can't spell and often say things I regret!

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Unless I'm losing my mind, I posted a reply to someone who said a recession began in Oct 07. Now that is gone, together with the original post w/comments. Or I'm on the wrong article....

I mediate public disputes and a key tenent of working with the public is that you have to work with where the public is, not where you wish they were. This is a loosing strategy for the republicans- Keep it up guys. Every comment like this just shows how out of touch you are. It's sickening.

What's the over/under on the amount of time this get's in the MSM? McCain should be hammered on this crap....

I'll take over on the time, probably never.
I'll take under on the time spent on story if it's ever mentioned, about 5 seconds.

Exactly. No one is going to bother covering this because they need HOURS to cover the stupid Jesse Jackson comment.

True. But don't forget about Christie Brinkley and now JonBenet. Sex and blood always lead the news. People can understand that. Economics. Not so much. And Gramm has a Ph.D in Economics? Sounds like he thinks it is all just smoke and mirrors and is just in people's heads.

Wait just a minute. Didn't this whole "I am not an economic expert but I have Phil Gramm as an economic adviser" denial thing get exposed by Tim Russert himself. Surely with Tim's memory and remains still warm this press won't let McCain get away with this a third time? But that Jon Benet dance routine is so cute.

Awesome. Glad to see McCain and Co spouting their real views.

"Hey, you who just lost his job at the GM plant. Stop whining, pussy. And don't forget to vote McCain, he was a POW."

Do you think you could get that onto a bumper sticker?

haha, easily.

"Lost your job? Stop whining.
Vote McCain, he was a POW."

What's sad is that I can see people proudly displaying this nonsense. There's this odd sort of hopeful naivete that seems to say, "Times are tough. Let's worship wealthy people, and maybe some of it will trickle down into our pitiful, worthless lives."

It goes back to the idea that losing one's job is the fault of the former job holder.

Hmmmm, maybe something more like:

"Job sent overseas? Stop whining.
Vote McCain, he was a POW, and
his wife is filthy rich."

Needs to be shorter. How about:

Lost your job? Stop whining.
And vote for McCain - he was a POW.

I think that would *just* fit.

I keep trying to not get too cocky about the upcoming election, but every time someone from the repub side opens their mouth, something like this comes out...

And no problems with commenting

McBush rolls out his New Rightwing Position:

Blame The Victim.

Not so much "blaming the victim" as he is "scolding the victim."

"Walk it off, son!"

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Nothing new about that.

I wonder what the AP's headline for this will be. "McCain's Economic Advisor Speaks Out Against Mental Illness"?

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To paraphrase the immortal Fran Fragos Townsend: It's not a recession. It's just a period of sustained economic prosperity that hasn't happened yet.

I hope those in charge of producing TV, radio and print ads/commercials for the general are taking note of all the ammunition McCain and his acknowledged "advisors" are providing. Just need to use their own words. "A nation of whiners" - sheesh.

The only reason the economy is limping along at 1% growth is military spending. End the war too quickly, or fail to replace military expenditures with something else (like interstate high-speed rail - that would be cool) and watch the economy swoon.

This is McCain's equivalent to Barack's 'bitter voters' comment from a bit ago. though this was said by a high profile surrogate of McCain's. hey, what the surrogate says, so means the candidate. this doesn't wash at all. and the MSM, to be consistent, should play this up and report on it fairly. but i'm not going to whine about it if they don't.

I dunno. There isn't much room for nuance in "nation of whiners."

the MSM, to be consistent, should play this up and report on it fairly. but i'm not going to whine about it if they don't.

Good. The Republicans are counting on that!

That would be the Phil Gramm who kept flunking out in grammar school?

I am sooooo tired of STOOPID.

Phil Gramm is pure evil. He helped pass laws that allowed Enron to rape California, then his wife got a nice cushy job on Enron's board. Then he helped pass legislation that allowed predatory lending and to make it harder for people to file for bankruptcy. He was a lobbyist for UBS while being McCain's adviser, though he recently 'resigned' from UBS. He may look like a kindly old grandfather, but evil often has a pleasant face. Except for Dick Cheney.

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Phil Gramm is definitely Dick Cheney level evil. The only difference is, Gramm hasn't shot any old men in the face. Yet.

Phil Gramm makes the most hideous Marie Antoinette.

Talk about chutzpah! Phil Gramm was the architect of the subprime fiasco. That, and his lack of a chin coupled with his beady eyes, makes me wish he was more of a public spokesman for McCrazy. What a great target for the Dems to go after. His creepy wife was involved in equally shady machinations. The Gramms are about as appealing as the Ceausescus.

That is why people call Phil The Turtlehead. Remember how he raised something like $10 million to run for president in 1988 and didn't get a single delegate vote?

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Yes, it's all in our heads. So if we just close our eyes, click our heels three times and say "there's no place like home," all those trillions of dollars that guys like Phil Gramm and his colleagues at UBS flushed down the toilet during the subprime lending bubble will magically reappear!

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This, from the guy who led the deregulation of the banking industry that allowed the sub-prime mess to happen.
The secretary of failure himself.
Read my quips. No New Texans!

"Read my quips. No New Texans!"

T-Shirt!!!! I take ten please.

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Statements like these from Phil, who along with the help of his wife Wendy, brought the US the Enron disaster, just go to show that the extremely wealthy are different from the rest of Americans.

It shows that they don't really share the same world that we are forced to live in. They live in some tangental time/space warped place that only exists in their minds, and then they tell us this existence is only in our minds.

But you're all correct on one thing. The MSM won't touch this. They will find some way of blaming Obama for it though. Bet's anyone?

Agreed, MSM is covering up for McCain. He spouts diarhea out of his mouth, and the Media dutifully cleans it up to make him more presentable.

"I hate g**ks"
Wife = C**t / trollop
Killing Iranians
"Beat the bitch" Excellent question
and on and on

This is becoming obscene.

Am I the only that thinks this is good news? It's a relief to find out that I only imagined spending $60 on gas this morning. Phew!

I once saw a picture of a young Phil Gramm and I couldn't help but notice the resemblance to that flim flam man from the Rockford Files, Angel (Stuart Margolin)

I can see the new ad now:

Man up America!

John McCain spent 5 years being tortured in a prison in Vietnam. The least you pussies could do is stop bitching about your job losses, stagnant wages, lack of healthcare, blah blah blah.

You got to be TOUGH in John McCain's America! No wimps allowed!

Shouldn't we consider this the McCain Camps "Malaise" speech?

The tons of ordnance dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan is the only "export BOOM" I am aware of.

these comments are not only offensive to the nation as a whole with respect to the economy, but they are also offensive to those suffering from depression.

his statements make it seem as if people that are depressed are somehow just imagining it to be so (and we think the same way about the economy) even though clinical depression is something people often have no control over.

This was hilarious.

Americans are "whiners"? Why does Phil Gramm hate America?

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anything that shines a light on that enron-enabling, foreclosure-loving, dyspeptic old turtle is a good thing. more gramm!

If the MSM covers this at all, it'll probably be to admire how mavericky and straight-talkin' the McCain campaign is.

FUCK YOU Gramm. While you're mak'n sausage in Washinton I'm here in Nebraska trying to sell steel and make brakets that I sell mostly to the construction and manufacturing industries. Business sucks and is getting worse!

I live in Omaha. Though I don't own any Birkshire Hathaway stock (wish I did), when The Oracle of Omaha (Warren Buffet) says it feels like a recession to him from where he sits it's a FUCKING RECESSION!!!


FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING, FUCKER!!! YOU PUSSY!!!

Saugsage makers. geeze.

and....I GOT YOUR "MENTAL RECESSION" RIGHT HERE! UGH!


YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!

HEY GRAMM, YOU PUSSY, DO I SOUND LIKE I'M WHINNING?

or.... DO I SOUND LIKE I'M CALLING YOU OUT TO KICK THE SHIT OUT OF YOU? YOU ASSHOLE!

After all our homes have been foreclosed on, we can live in vans down by the river. Of course we can't afford to drive them there, so we'll have to get out and push. No need for whining though, things could always be worse, like if Obama gets elected and raises that capital gains tax.

So I'm just imagining the weakening of the dollar, the outsourcing of all those jobs, the mortgage loan crisis, the rising gas prices, the ever-growing deficit, all the money we're wasting in Iraq, etc...

My bad, Phil.

When your neighbor loses his job, it's a Recession.
When you lose your job, it's a Depression.

When Phil Gramm loses his job it's Justice...and it's about time. (But such things don't happen to Plutocrats buffered by the Socialist System they've set up to enrich themselves on the upside and protect themselves from the downsides of their behavior.)

Mental recession? Is that the same as brain shrinkage? I think Phil Gramm may have accurately diagnosed his own condition.

"We did an informal office survey by looking at the total tax footprint versus the total income. I earned 46 million and paid a tax rate of 17.5%. My rate was the lowest, the average was 33%, and my cleaning lady paid 40%. The system is tilted towards the rich. The Forbes 400 total net worth has gone from 220 billion to 1.54 trillion, an increase of 7-to-1. You see in legislature that there is lobbying carried on by the powerful over issues such as the estate tax and carried interest for private equity investments. We need to flatten income and payroll taxes, and those making under $30,000 shouldn’t be bothered." Warren Buffett 2/15/2008

Hey Phil Gramm, EAT SHIT AND DIE MOTHERFUCKER!

This is really simple. A speech by Obama, in Texas, about the economy and Phil Gramms awful abuses while in office would go a long way. Obama should be hammering McCain on this stuff. Link him to every idiotic move any Republican working for his campaign has ever made. Then simply ask if America trusts him to hire competent appointees to fix the economy. The list w/ Gramm would be long and force McCain to either fire him, or put him on his heels in respect to the economy.

Brilliant! (smacks self on forehead)...
From your keyboard to Obama's ears.
Hope some of his peeps read the comments.

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Gramm is evil, and this is just wrong on so many levels.

Let's put that one percent growth in GDP in one column. And then let's put the stagnant wages and energy-driven inflation rates that are likely going to be the highest we've seen since the 1970s in the other column. Let's see which of those columns has more clout at the voting booth.

I am America! Hear me whine!

That whine is gonna throw your pasty Republican ass out on the street where it belongs!

The public hasn't yet become aware of how bad and out of control inflation has become. It will take about 6 months for exploding raw material production and transportation costs to work their way up the economy to the retail level.

Take steel for instance (I'm in the steel fabrication buusiness). In January of this year I was paying $0.31/pound for steel plate. Today I just paid $0.68/pound for the same plate. That is a 119% increase in a little over 6 months and, 238% on an annualized basis which is expected in the industry. Steel is one of those basic things that is involved one way or another in everything that winds up on store shelves.

Does this hurt? You bet it does. It has dramatically and negatively impacted my unit volume sales while at the same time boosted my costs into orbit. This is happening in every part our economy that has anything to do with producing tangible goods.

It's going to be bad folks. This is only the beginning. That's reality, not fucking "mental recession" as "Let Them Eat Cake" Phil Gramm would have you believe.

"Another Reason America Hates Washington!"

I, for one, am tired of the "Blame Americans Firsters" like Phil Gramm.

Supply side Terrrrists.

One day comment is accepted, next day it isn't, it does discourage commenting.

If anyone is in a 'mental recession' it's John McCain. His Gross Mental Product has been rapidly declining for the past three decades.

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WOW, so those high gas prices are all in my head? Great! Now I can stop over-paying at the pump.

It's easy for a millionaire to call the rest of us "whiners" when he doesn't have to worry about the "gas vs. food" dilemma so many Americans face.

Let's take all monies away from Phil Gramm . . . alot him earnings of $80.00/week and see how long it takes for his mental recession to appear.

Sure wish we could do this to a multitude of these rich politicians that have made their money only because "We the People put them in office" which then gave them the opportunity to fleace their pockets by working in cahoots with lobbyists.

Now that I know today is a comment day my thoughts are:

Hope this statement by Gramm is at least heard by the people truly feeling the crunch The elitest telling them to stop whinning don't have a clue how our half lives. Problem is the MSM usually makes sure we hear very little about anything negative concerning Mc Cain. For example, this week has been all about Obama & all of his flips, so far only finance & visa can qualify. As Rachel Maddow pointeed out, the list of Mc Cain flips is a mile long & not a blip. To add to that taking credit for Webb's bill should have been shouted to the roof tops by every progressive alive.

PS

Hope everyone heard about the vet confronting Mac about his voting record on veteran issues because it's doubbtful you'll hear it other than KO or Rachel. Sorry I don't have a link, but it was on Wed night.

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If there were a Democrat in the White House, Gramm would be saying the exact opposite.

I recall during George H.W. Bush's presidency there was a slight recession, and they started running TV ads saying (essentially) "The recession is over if you want it to be-- go out and spend and the recession will be over"-- seems this is cut from the same cloth.

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Ah, yes; a very Republican solution. "We call on every patriotic American to go out and spend the money you don't have in order to end this recession, so that the financial industry on which we political vampires feed can grow fat by charging you obscene interest rates on your debt. And of course when the inevitable happens and you go bankrupt, then we will point the finger at you for the poor choices you have made and your shockingly profligate lifestyle."

HA! OK, when I go to fill up my tank with gas and go to buy groceries tomorrow, I'll give them 80% of what shows up on the cash register, and tell them they have a psychological issue, and Phil Gramm says to stop whining about it and buckle up. And, by the way, you should be glad to get what I'm offering; after all, that's what my employer says when I ask for more money - be glad to get what I'm offering; these are hard times, ya know!

Maybe that's what we all need to do, just say we'll give you $3.00 a gallon for that gas or we'll all stay home, and don't think we won't do it! Nothing wrong with a national strike in these times as far as I'm concerned.

Fuck'n love it. I'm itching go try it. Oh....wait a minute.....people legally carry concealed firearms in my state.

OK How is this for whining! "McBush" is the biggest moron to EVER run for Dictator, ahem I mean president. LOL, McBush is a joke. Surely nobody is taking him seriously.

JT
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Who're ya gonna believe? Me, or your lying eyes?! - Phil 'Down On My Knees To Please' Gramm

If it walks like a recession...and talks like a recession...Then darn it, it's a RECESSION!

Phil Graham(cracker) tells masses "Let them eat cake"

Times are so good, plenty of cake from the party.
Stop whining, start partying

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