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Poll: Obama, McCain In Dead Heat In Virginia

Barack Obama is sinking unprecedented resources into Virginia, and a new poll suggests that every penny will count -- the survey finds that the race in the state is a dead heat.

The new numbers from Rasmussen: McCain 48%, Obama 47%, within the ±4.5% margin of error.

The internals, however, contain one number that presents serious concern: Obama's unfavorable rating stands at 47% among likely voters suggesting that he may not have much room to grow. By contrast, John McCain's unfavorable rating is at only 36%.


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More information, if possible, please. I'd like to hear the crosstabs. Stupid Ras charges for access.

Read the link. McCain gets 86% of Republicans, Obama gets 84% of Democrats, and McCain leads indies, 46-36.

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I seriously doubt if you continue to work to register and turn out Northern Virginia that 47% of VA voters really have a negative opinion of Obama.

It's cause for "concern" (hate that word), but that number is certainly fungible.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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The whole post is worded as though the Cowardly Lion wrote it.

We have a Democratic Presidential Nominee making a tremendous investment in a state whose demographics and proximity to Washington, DC suggest that it would benefit greatly from strong outreach and education about Democratic policies and the progressive agenda as a whole. I would think that investment is a worthy one that has great potential to show dividends in November 2008, and in plenty of Novembers to come. But I open a story on a progressive website that I visit every damned day and I read that Barack Obama is "sinking" unprecedented resources into it?

If there is one thing we can learn from Republicans and hopefully emulate, it's the ability to walk, talk, and act like winners. It's a shame we can't seem to get the "framing" thing down. I guess the only bigger shame is that they can't seem to get the "policy" thing or the "governance" thing down... It could be made into a monster if we all pull together as a team...

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I think you are reading more into the connotation of the word sink than was intended by its author.

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What that says to me is that it's time for some 3rd party negative ads attacking McCain.

All the more reason to bring Mark Warner's former right-hand man and successor Gov. Tim Kaine onto the ticket. Having grown up in northern VA, I can tell you that for a Democrat to win Old Dominion is extremely tough even at the gubernatorial and Senatorial levels -- let alone the presidential level. This is a state that has launched the careers of conservatives George Allen and Jim Gillmore, and almost sent Ollie North to the Senate. Chuck Robb and Tim Kaine are about as liberal as the state gets.

Virginia will be very close but I don't think DEMS should bet the election on this state. Virginia is still a southern state....that is trending DEM. Maybe Warner's anticipated landslide can help sweep Obama to a narrow win.

I see Missouri, Indiana, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada as far more likely pickups. The Midwest and Mountain West/Southwest seem to be the most fertile grounds for DEM gains this year.


Indiana more likely than VA? I agree with the rest, but not that one. Besides, it's supposed to be a 50 state strategy so why not fight for all of them.

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57 State strategy...remember? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Republicans are reeling.. lol

Kind of like vetoing every beer?

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...or refering to Checheslovakia...

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Or the "... unbroken line of fallen heroes..." he saw in the crowd on Memorial Day.

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...or his crazy uncle liberating Auschwitz.

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Ok, now that one really is pathetic. His uncle liberated a concentration camp, buchenwald. So, he said aushwitz by mistake. They are both concentration camps and atrocious. That was the point of the statement. This one is pathetic. At least he knows that czechoslovakia doesn't exist.

Sometimes the trolling is really obvious. Like this series of posts about 15-20 minutes apart from SFCWallace. No response to the first? Post another silly statement. Still nothing? Post again. Bingo! Third times the charm.

I'm not saying he should go all out in VA...he should. But I wouldn't bet the farm on the state. He needs to have plenty of scenarios to get to 270 without VA.

I see your point about Indiana and Missouri. they too are very tough. I base my idea on the fact Obama is from neighboring Illinois and his performing pretty strongly in Midwest states so far in the this cycle. I also am becoming more convinced that he will choose Sen. Evan Bayh as his running mate so that too factors into my feeling on Indiana (where Obama leads by 1).

I think VA is a more likely Democratic pickup than MO or IN if only because of demographics. It's clear Obama is very serious about VA since he hired his Iowa caucus state director for Old Dominion.

Then again, Obama also seems quite serious about MO and IN -- let alone OH, FL, and CO.

I think Obama will carry both the Hawkeye State (IA) and the Land of Enchantment (NM). Obviously, Obama's goal one week after the convention is to have double digit leads in all the Kerry states plus IA and NM, be slightly ahead in NV, CO, VA, OH, MO, IN, MT, ND, AK, FL, and NC, and be slightly behind in GA. This will force McCain to give up on PA, MI, WI, NH, IA, and NM, and force him to defend these other states.

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I do think that the demo helps Obama in Virginia more than most models can participate. For example Virginia is almost 20% African American while Indiana is about 9% and Missouri is 11%.

Having grown up here in Virginia and lived in several parts of the state, I believe that the AA vote hasn't been motivated here to vote in large numbers except for Doug Wilder's election as Governor here and I believe that this voting block will not be represented well in polls but will show up strong in November.

Also, over the last 8 years the population has exploded in northern Virginia with a lot of typical DC residents moving to the suburbs to raise their families and a large share of these people are solid Dems.

The Obama campaign in Virginia is kicking off office opening parties at all 20 offices in the state tomorrow morning. Let's go Virginia!

McCain in Missouri:


"My friends, we've seen this movie before," McCain said. "It was called 'HillaryCare' back in 1993, and we're not going to do it again. We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/17/mccain-calls-obama-health-care-plan-hillarycare/

So much for courting the Clinton voters.

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Nice catch. I'd like to add this to my "McCain voted to convict Clinton during his impeachment" blurb that I post every time a PUMA posts a blog.

Indeed, the bad news just keeps piling up for Obama.

Hopefully he will see the light and announce that he is dropping out today.


Lamont,

Do your realize who ridiculous you sound? Who are you? What are you? Are you member of that retarded organization PUMA.

Lamont,

Do your realize who ridiculous you sound? Who are you? What are you? Are you a member of that retarded organization PUMA.

C'mon, that pure 100% sarcasm, and sarcasm at its finest. Read some more of Lamont's stuff, and you will not be confused...

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I think that was sarcasm.

Lamont,

Do your realize who ridiculous you sound? Who are you? What are you? Are you a member of that retarded organization PUMA. You take one finding from a poll ( a questionable) finding at that and spin it as bad news. Typical! U must work for CNN, NYT, WASHPOST or Faux.

Now I am wondering if you are a troll.

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Dear clueless (and you are deeply so),

You might wanna hang around here for more than 36 milliseconds. If you did, you'd realize Lamont is deeply snarky.

Even more than "concern", I loathe the word fungible. But point taken, nonetheless.

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How could you not like it? The word "fungible" is itself so fungible.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I'll never understand the comments of the people who say it's not worth a shot or only a limited effort. Even if living there, as opposed to New York where I live, gives you some insight into voting habits around you, the Obama campaign is run by professionals who have made several excellent calls so far. They know how to look at recent history but also the base numbers and the potential they possess. They clearly see an opening, so why not let them go at it?

If come the middle of September, they have information that they aren't making a difference, they can always scale back their efforts. That's what every campaign does. But why not work at it now? The public polls show a very close race. Why should internal polls be any different?

We always hear talk of a 50-state strategy. Well, this is what it looks like, at least as far as first steps go. Even if we end up losing this time, we are registering voters and collecting other information that will give us a leg up next time. That way, when Obama is running for re-election in 2012, or some other Democrat is running, this person will have a base in the state. Did John Kerry really give us that from 2004?

Also, I don't think anyone is predicting that this will be the next Rhode Island. No, it'll probably be more like the next Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, a usually competitive state that always goes a few points in one direction or another.

If you have a generally favorable political environment and tons of money, it makes all the sense in the world to expand the playing field even if you don't think you can win all of those states. It forces the opponent to spend time and money in those states and to give up on playing offense in states like Wisconsin or Michigan, thereby freeing your resources in those states. Yes, this strategy has its own risks, but still, somewhat counterintuitively, it is still safer than just targeting narrowly your best states that put you barely over 270 EVs, because then it is enough for one thing to go wrong to cause you to lose the election.

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Eric, you're making a big statistical mistake in buying Rasmussen's narrative of the internals showing "concern" for Obama.

The concern in this poll is actually for McCain because of the turnout model. Rasmussen's crosstabs don't provide the turnout model, but that can be extrapolated from the data they DO provide in the form of subgroup preferences. By my math, this Rasmussen Virginia poll had to have limited the black vote to no more than 14% and the white vote at no less than 81%. In 2004 exit polling showed the black vote at 21% and the white vote at 72%, and in the 2006 midterms the exit polling had the black vote at 16% and the white vote at 78%.

In this poll, Obama pulls 38% of whites, 95% of blacks, and 80% of "not sure" which frankly I take to mean other nonwhites in what must have been poor question word choice. These are big improvements over Kerry in all three categories; Kerry got 32% of whites, 87% of blacks, and 61% of other nonwhites. If you apply the last presidential election turnout model to this Rasmussen Virginia poll, these subgroup vote shares are enough to put Obama at 53% of the total vote. If you reduce Obama's share of "other nonwhites" to the same 61% that Kerry got, Obama still easily clears 50%. If you apply 2006 turnout, Obama falls just a hair under 50%, at 49.64.

Finally, regarding Obama's "high unfavorables," his favorable is at 52-47, McCain's is at 64-36, and yet the 12-point favorability deficit translates to a measley one-point 48-47 trial heat deficit. This just reinforces that this election is all about Obama: almost everyone who likes Obama votes for him, whether or not they like McCain, too. And an election that is a referendum on Obama is one where 52% favorability is enough to have an even chance to win. Sure it would be nice to have it higher, and Obama needs to get it higher. But it may actually BE higher among the actual electorate based simply on including substantially more black voters than Rasmussen polled.

My wife and I when we travel conduct our own poll of voter preferences by tracking the number of bumper stickers and logging which candidate they are for. We traveled last weekend in NC for 6 six hours and the totals were: Obama 254 - McCain 1...

I don't know about you but that tells us that NC is in play for Obama and we are this far out from the election. Anybody seeing alot of McCain bumper stickers?

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Probably a better measure of enthusiasm/activism than actual votes. The enthusiasm is definitely on our side this year.

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I go with the bumper sticker theory as well. So far this year, I can only recall seeing ONE McCain sticker, and hundreds of Obama stickers. I live in Los Angeles, but still. In the last election I saw plenty of Cheney Bush stickers.

Any poll that shows McCain within 10 points of Obama in any state is wrong. With the exception of Utah, those people would vote for Satan over God if Satan was the republican and God, the democrat...

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