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Poll: McCain Takes Lead In Key Swing State Of Missouri

The Obama campaign is making a major play for the perennial swing state of Missouri, but a new poll finds that John McCain has taken the lead there.

The latest numbers from Rasmussen: McCain 47%, Obama 42%. A month ago, it was Obama 43% to McCain 42%. This is in line with a SurveyUSA poll from two weeks ago, which also had McCain taking the lead after Obama had previously held a narrow edge.

The Obama campaign is pouring an extraordinary amount of resources into the state. The Kansas City Star reports today that the campaign is hiring an astonishing 150 paid staffers for Missouri alone.


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Good. Send the people there. Do the groundwork. We work better from behind.

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WAsn't Missouri one of the states that McCain had started blanketing with ads, and Obama, in comparison, wasn't putting much up in?

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McCain camp calls the Obama move into Missouri "desperate" because they're not doing as well as they should.

Um...last I checked, wasn't MO a red state?

Well, I always knew that we would face an uphill climb here. I am not discouraged. This poll still shows McCain under 50%. It just indicates that we have more work to do, which I think we all knew already.

Is McCain seen in a lot more ads there than Obama? Thanks.

Honestly, dear Amelie, I have no idea at all. I watch only ~ 2 hours of television a week, and those two hours are two hours of PBS. Likewise, I really only listen to NPR. I am totally clueless as to who is running more broadcast ads.

Terrorist.

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Totally. Probably petless, as well.

Guilty as charged. I like dogs, but I am waiting until my son is old enough to ask for one before we get one. That way I will at least get a little credit for being a nice guy when I agree.

So I take back the bit about only listening to NPR. I also listen to the Cardinals games on the radio, but I have never heard a political ad broadcast during a Cards game. It still comes to the same thing - I have no idea who is getting more ad time on the St Louis airwaves.

you are a quality man, don't change

Missouri voter: I am the same way. I could not begin to tell you what is on television. I actually think I could live without one now that I can watch Olbermann on the computer.

One of the things I like about our blog here is the ability to inform each other about what is happening in each person's area, plus the ideas and info shared is wonderful for the most part. Thanks so much for your answer.

I've seen many more McCain ads than Obama ads in St. Louis.

I like to see this type of long-term investment in a state. Will McCain try to match it? I don't think he can with Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan sucking up resources....

Speaking of resources, has there been nary a twitter about how much money BO pulled in June, or am I crazy?

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I went searching for information yesterday about this, and found a tidbit on Marc AMbinder's site about the fundraising spigot being wide open and running smoothly, but now I can't the link.

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Whoops. Found it. See #3 at the bottom:

Marc Ambinder gets a tidbit about fundraising

For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here is the pertinent part:

(3) I've gotten this question a lot: Having decided to opt out of the public financing system for the general election, is Obama having trouble raising money? No, say Obama sources. They won't divulge totals or estimates but I am led to believe that the spigot is open and the currency is flowing nicely...

If they were having problems, of course, I imagine they would something very similar to this.

Too early, but warning signs for Obama nonetheless. I'm hopeful his ground operation will do the trick at the end of the day. McCain has an unfair advantage and will continue to, coz Media seem adamant to hand it to him on a platter.

Obama has his work cut out.

the poll is within 5-/+ error that is good news for Obama and bad for McSame. Obama is smart to make a big play for Missouri, he won the state in primary against Clinton who originally according to the MSM was supposed to win.

He's starting off good by adding 149 staffers statewide.

Exactly. When we won this state in the primary, we came from way behind in the very last week (Clinton was ahead by an average of 6 pts in the week before the vote, and by an average of 15 pts two weeks ahead of the vote). It was a matter of working like a borrowed mule and never giving up. I would not rule out such an upset along the same lines in November.

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You're a class act, you know that?

Why thank you, dear CT. The feeling is mutual.

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No coincidence. McCain blankets the state with ads. Obama is virtually silent. And the latest McCain ad, the "love generation" ad, is also going to play in Missouri. What is the Obama answer? A "web only" DNC ad (a good one on Iraq, but "web only"?). I think Obama may have some cash problems over the next 5 weeks compared to McCain. A period during which McCain is going to really try and frame Obama. Cross your fingers...and/.or continue to make donations to Obama now.

Yes, agree. I am contributing again. Took a break there in June, but back at it. On to a win!

that's the spirit! WIN!

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Second guess your candidate much?

Note that Obama didn't lose his share of the vote. McCain increased his. Obama is still hovering around 43%.

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Plus McCain has his full base - he gets 90 % of Repukeliscum. Obama is getting 80 % of Dems, with the Clinton hold-outs still holding out.

At least we have this:

Obama Making Gains in Red States July 7, 2008 8:35 AM

According to recent polls, Sen. Barack Obama is doing extremely well in states that have voted Republican in recent presidential elections.

* Montana: Bush won by 11 points in 2004, Obama leading McCain by 5 points

* Colorado: Bush +4, Obama +5

* Virginia: Bush +8, Obama +2

* New Mexico: Bush +1, Obama +3

* Florida: Bush +5, Obama +2

* Indiana: Bush +20, Obama +1

* Georgia: Bush +16, McCain +1

* Mississippi: Bush +20, McCain +4

* Alaska: Bush +26, McCain +4

* North Carolina: Bush +13, McCain +4

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalinsider/

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I don't know who does your polling but if you think Obama's up by 2 in Florida and McCain's only up by 1 in Georgia you need a wake up call.

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McCain has been running some very good ads. Obama has not. He has no ads running except the generic bio ad, which is old and tired now.

I'm waiting for his money to show some ads.

The only thing that will save Obama now is Clinton as VP.

And she's going to give him a digital salute.

Clinton in 2012.

Save Obama from what? Winning independents?

Independents are few and far between at this point. f they are truly independent they will vote their age. The old saying will hold true:"If you're yound and don't vote Democratic you don't have a heat, if you're old and don't vote Republican you don't have a brain."

Are more Independents young or old? Obama already has the youth vote in his camp...who's left?

Well, you sound like quite the expert. May I ask how it is that you know all of this (bonus points if you can explain how you know this to be true of independents in Missouri)?

Ahh, just intuition!

But you might visit this map:
http://www.thebigsort.com/maps.php

Notice there is not a single Democratic community and the contestable ones are a very small percentage. Tell you anything?

LOL, then why don't they just say "McCain" or "Obama" when the pollster asks?

You're dumb, a dumb loser. LOL.

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I don't know, I'm not yound but do have a heat and vote Repukeliscum every time.

Alright wise guy. You try keyboarding fast with one finger extended.

Independents are few and far between at this point. f they are truly independent they will vote their age. The old saying will hold true:"If you're yound and don't vote Democratic you don't have a heart, if you're old and don't vote Republican you don't have a brain."

Are more Independents young or old? Obama already has the youth vote in his camp...who's left?

You should have only posted this dumb comment once.

Independents are few and far between at this point. If they are truly independent they will vote their age. The old saying will hold true:"If you're young and don't vote Democratic you don't have a heart, if you're old and don't vote Republican you don't have a brain."

Are more Independents young or old? Obama already has the youth vote in his camp...who's left?

In this case, the third time was not the charm.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Thanks you for your cogent response. I think your mommy is calling you for lunch.

Thanks for your cogent response. I think your mommy is calling you for lunch.

Thanks for your cogent response. I think your mommy is calling you for lunch.

Every time you posted it, you screwed up the quote. It was from Churchill, so it was just liberal and conservative, not Democrat and Republican, and repeating an inaccurate quote 3 times does not make it true

I want some of whatever it is you are smoking...

Smoking is for Iranians.

Good Afternoon my favorite troll..

Is your goal today to waste space on this tread with your mindless dribble?

that's what I like about you fogu2...always wanting to appear like an expert and use your FACTS....but your facts are but a garbage bag of your opinions! please keep us entertained as I enjoy reading your posts as they remind of trying to read the headlines of a newspaper on the bottom of a bird cage! can't read the print because of the birdshit!

Thought I shut you up when you made a fool of yourself on the 2nd Amendment thread.

Back in the drawer sock puppet.

no fool here fogu2...you lost that argument as you do with all you post as fact which just your opinion!

fogu2 in 2012..loser!

I've got two frames of mind on his investment in Missouri and his money situation overall. The first is that things are good to great. I suggest this because of what I've been reading over the Internet. Over at the Atlantic Monthly site, I've learned that Marc Ambinder's sources said that the cash is flowing nicely. It's not clear exactly how well it's going, but even if we fell short of the lofty goal of $100 million in June, I have to imagine that June's number and then July's number as well will be pretty big.

I recently made two donations. One was for $50 at the end of June, my first ever. The second was earlier today, when I donated $15, definitely because I believe in Obama, but also because I want to win a trip to Denver for the convention. I was considering donating $5 every time McCain does something ridiculous, but I might meet the limit by the end of next week.

Well anyway, if the money is coming in a great rate, then we can interpret Obama's recent moves--sending paid staffers to not only traditional swing states like Ohio and Michigan but red states like Indiana and Georgia and even deep red states like South Carolina, airing ads in these states, and increasing the number of staffers in these states--as a sign that he's confident it will continue. Even if his campaign is trying to psych out McCain's campaign, I doubt he would allow money to be spent if it was going to be scarce in a few weeks.

As for Missouri and other states where he might be ramping up his efforts, I want to believe this is a sign things are actually good. His campaign has internal polling that tells him a different story than we might see. My read of this move is that it's possible to lay the ground work now for not just a small win but a nice victory of a couple percentage points, particularly because McCain won't be able to match his efforts.

But let's say that the positive possibilities above are reversed. Let's say he's not doing as well as he would have liked with fund raising and that he is seeing some bad signs in internal polling. Then I'd say his recent moves are an attempt to fix the problem as soon as possible.

Either way, I'm confident in his campaign. And while I have nothing more than gut instinct to back me up right now, I have a feeling that as the weeks go on, we'll see Obama's position improve in direct and indirect ways, precisely because of the smart moves his team is making regardless of his position right now.

So, you thought you could win a trip to Denver? Well forget about it because I intend to win!
:-P

To give you an indication of what a dork I am, as I work out or do yard work, I imagine what it'll be like to see Obama at the convention or to see massive rallies in Indianapolis and Charlotte and Atlanta in the fall. The joy is only increased if I think about what it'd be like to start dating this girl I've had my eye on for some time.

But hey, they are giving away ten pairs of tickets, so maybe we'll both get to go.

It's good. The traditional July Democratic circular firing squad had commenced. This will bring back some focus.

Looks like Obama's move to the center (right) is paying great dividends in Missouri. I've noted, too, that his lead has recently dwindled in my home state of Washington.

And here I thought Obama's cutthroat team of Chicagoans might deviate from the Kerry/Gore self-immolation strategies of yesteryear. Good thing for us that Bob Dole, er, John McCain is running on the opposing ticket.

Perhaps as these mediocre poll numbers continue to come in over the next few weeks, the Obama team will recall the recipe that fueled his rise to begin with.

Looking for a self-fulfilling prophecy so you can tell us "I told you so?"

Nice.

On the other hand, Obama's numbers continue to climb in states like Ohio and the eastern seaboard.

http://www.zogby.com/50state/

That's rather presumptuous, don't you think? Even for a sycophant.

Speaking of presumptuous, look in the mirror some time.

"sychophant?"

How utterly above-it-all you are to make discourse with such small-minded people like myself.

There you go again.

Rather than issuing nasty retorts to every constructive criticism (albeit overly sarcastic in my case, I concede) directed at the Obama campaign, how about you and the mean little kitty acknowledge that a diversity of perspectives is a healthy thing? One might even call it democratic.

Otherwise, you risk further charges of sycophancy. Such a characteristic works fairly well with the ultra-heirarchical GOP, but is comparable to plugging a leaky dam with chewing gum among progressives and Democrats.

In short, chill out and realize that Obama and his campaign aren't always going to do everything properly. And calling him out on his errors is far preferable to gratuitous me-tooism.

Nobody, including me, minds the debate, discourse, or divergent views, or nuanced positions from our fellow-travelers.
It's the condescension and "holier-than-thou" crap by some lefties that is off-putting to me and others.
It's as though if we don't join in the netroot-Glenn-Greenwald-Obama-bash-fest, we're somehow mindless "sycophants."
I don't see where Obama has been "wrong" or is slipping in the polls because his views on some issues that happen to disappoint you.

Guess what?

There's no one in the world but you who agrees with you 100% of the time.

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"Diversity of perspectives"? I was just calling you out on the premature rush to judgment based on a set of polls. You pointed out that one poll doesn't make a trend in response, and my point was that you were guilty of the same overgeneralization.

Geez.

Project much?

Perhaps as these mediocre poll numbers continue to come in over the next few weeks, the Obama team will recall the recipe that fueled his rise to begin with.

For what little my opinion is worth, that is my hope as well. Mind you, I realize that I am just a soldier in this army, while Obama is the general, but I have a hard time avoiding the conclusion that his FISA stance reversal was an unforced error. Fortunately, I do not think that it is going to cost him too dearly, but I think that the data have come in and it is safe to say that his "shift to the center" is not helping. Hopefully the higher ranking officers in the campaign will adjust tactics accordingly. Meanwhile, I will just keep knocking on doors and sending money for the time being. There is nothing yet which suggests that a mutiny is in order.

Keep the faith!

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Looks like Obama's move to the center (right) is paying great dividends in Missouri

Huh. Maybe you're right. Two weeks ago, in the Survey USA poll, McCain had a 7 point lead. Now it's 5.

I'll be danged. Statistically insignificant movement like that can't be ignored. I retract my pessimism. If the Obama campaign wants to come out and regale us with plans to obliterate Iran, sell off public lands, restrict reproductive rights, and privatize social security, who am I to complain? Everyone knows the American populace continues its relentless march to the far right. Catering to that is only smart politics. It's true, Democrats acting like Republicans have always garnered more votes than Republicans acting like Republicans. Look it up.

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"Statistically insignificant movement like that can't be ignored. "

Apparently you were incapable of ignoring them as well, huh?

I would like to know the specifics of this poll.

Missouri is a state where Obama can win a few counties only and lost a whole bunch and still win the entire state.

so if a pollster over polls rural areas it can give the republican a huge advantage.

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I am not worried about the Missouri polls.

This is not a Republican year in Missouri. Jay Nixon is going to win the governors race. Kay Barnes has a real shot against Sam Graves. Democratic enthusiasm is sky high. There is no really hot social issue on the November ballot. Republican enthusiasm, not so much. McCain is below 50%.

Obama will win Missouri. Mark my words.

Marked.

I'm going to hold you to it.

I agree Ron. It is July and Obama is close.
Given Obama's constituency, polls are probably under estimating his support by 2-3pts and he will have a great ground/GOTV effort in MO given how close it is to IL and his 150 paid staffers (in addition to heavying-up on the Org Fellows in MO). That will be worth a couple more points.

So as long as he is close, it should be fine. All of the polls (except Zogby) had him losing by a good 7-10 points in the primary.
Granted, it would be better if he was ahead but a small deficit isn't anything to get worried about. Of course it isn't anything to get complacent about either so we have work to do.

As far as his ads go, I believe Obama is pacing himself. It is 4 months to the election, middle of summer - why spend now. He seems to be spending just enough to stay ahead of the game but no more. Seriously, I think come mid-August, you will start seeing a boat load of ads attacking McCain on all of his crap. It will have a better audience and the impact will be more lasting. Think Rev Wright. Who cares about that now?? Had that come out in Oct, that would be a seriously different story. We don't want to use all the McCain bullets shooting in the air. We want to use them when they will be the most lethal.

On the other hand, Zogby's Missouri poll which includes Barr and Nader showed Obama ahead by two points:

Obama - 42%
McCain - 40%
Barr - 6%
Nader - 1%
Someone else - 4%
Undecided - 7%

Methodology: Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,121 likely voters. The poll ran from June 11-30. It carries a margin of error of +/- 3.0 percentage points.

http://www.zogby.com/50state/

These Zogby polls are 100% online and are probably biased towards Obama by 2-5 points depending on the state. MO, I would guess is in the middle of that.

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Basically this could just be statistical noise on either side of the margin of error in a race that is essentially a toss-up.

In any case, as things stand now Obama can still win big without MO or FL.

I'm not that concerned.

I agree.

In every electoral dry-run I've done, I still see Obama getting 300+ electoral votes without FL or MO.

True, and good point, that.

All Obama needs to do is choose Dick Gephardt as his running mate, and he'll have Missourah.

The Zogby Interactive online polls were worthless in 2004 and should be disregarded. Zogby's bro, who runs an Arab American organization, is a bigtime Barack Obama supporter to boot.

As for Missouri, I expect McCain to win it by about 3-5 points in November unless Obama has a landslide.

Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Ohio are the only 4 states that have gone with the winner in every election since 1964. McCain leads now in the first three and Obama leads in OH (which I hope is polled more often, along with PA, MI, and CO).

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Obama's leap to the center has, as could easily have been predicted, made McCain more competitive in Missouri along wit McCain's more extensive tv buy in the state. The common wisdom (and snake oil) of DLC Dems is that moving to the center makes Dems more appealing. That, however, is false. What it does do, is blur the distinction between the good guys and the bad guys which is a genuine gift to McCain in this instance. What we need is contrast between the two. What we need is to have candidates who have the courage to stand up for what they believe instead of "compromising" away their principles in te interest of appearing more "moderate" or "centrist".

Obama could well win MO but he is making it harder to do each and every time he blurs the differences between himself and the perceived Republican position regardless of the issue. It's nice to have field staff, but they wont do any good in and of themselves if there's no message motivating people and exiting them and giving them a reason to vote. All that seemed to come to a screeching halt quite a while ago. Obama needs to make clear the common peopl that he has their interests at heart and that he will choose their interest over the interests of the wealthy and the corporations. He seems hesitant to make that point forcefully in the past few months.

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