Obama's Money: $50 Million Raised For Primary, But It Doesn't Matter
Here's a bit more detail on Obama's $52 million June haul: According to the Obama campaign, some $50 million of this was raised for use in the primary, and $2 million was raised for the general.
Does this matter? Not really.
Campaign finance rules dictate that any money raised for the primary can be spent all the way up until the convention, even if the primary has already been settled. So Obama can spend the $50 million all the way up until the end of August -- not a difficult thing to do.
And as it happens, Obama could also roll over money left over from the $50 million for use in the general if he so chose. TPM's resident numbers-obsessive, Eric Kleefeld, checked in with Federal Election Commission spokesperson Bob Biersack, who confirmed that Obama can roll over that money because he's opted out of public financing and hence is no longer bound only to spend public money on the general.
So the only significance of the primary-general breakdown is that Obama can't spend the $2 million raised for the general until after the convention. And that obviously doesn't matter at all.
Late Update: Commenters are making a good point: The real significance of the $2 million for the general is that it means that all these donors are still there to be tapped for general election money.















Actually, the $2 million IS significant in that it signifies that Obama still has TONS of maxed out donors who can give again.
He's going to raise an ABSURD amount of money for the "general election".
July 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent point about maxed out donors.
I am a bit slow, so humor me, Greg. He can use whatever is left over after the convention for the GE, right ?
July 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was anyone really confused about this point? Obama basically dictates which kitty donations go into at this point, and he wouldn't do something that'd render funds worthless.
It really would matter quite a bit if it'd been the other way around. Obama can't spend general funds till after the convention and doesn't want donors to cap out on general funds just now.
Lastly, if Obama's doesn't finish the convention in debt for his primary funds, he's not really doing his job. Plenty of time to pay that back later.
July 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
It may be impossible for him to spend all of that money plus the sums he raises in July and August prior to the convention. That's not a bad problem to have in my opinion.
July 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is he allowed to spend primary money on the convention? If he is, no reason to have any primary money left over; otherwise, I can possibly see your point but I doubt he'll have trouble getting enough to spend in September/October given the convention bounce, campaigning nationwide (brings in way more possible small donors than a Kerry-esque 10-15 state campaign), and wooing donors who maxed out for the primary but stayed out of general funding so far, in addition to ex-Clinton donors who will continue to gradually come around.
Obama had to work hard to get this number in June, but it should get easier from here on out.
July 17, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks! I've been wondering about this "roll over" issue for months and haven't been able to find the answer!
July 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I remember the previous months showing a slightly closer split between primary and general election funds raised. This difference is probably due to the large number of Hillary donors jumping on board.
July 17, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Greg.
Since we now have a re-constituted FEC, has anyone followed up to find out whether McCain will suffer any consequences for unilaterally opting out of public financing for the primaries, after officially opting in (and securing a loan based on that fact)?
Seems to me what he did was illegal. But do the laws actually apply to Republicans??
-- ARG
July 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great question! Don't expect the press to ask it.
July 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent point. This sounds like a job for...TPM Muckraker!
July 17, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Since we now have a re-constituted FEC, has anyone followed up to find out whether McCain will suffer any consequences for unilaterally opting out of public financing for the primaries, after officially opting in (and securing a loan based on that fact)?
That probably depends on who's on the FEC. And according to the NYT, it looks pretty good for McCain.
More:
http://www.moresoftmoneyhardlaw.com/news.html?AID=1256
Also:
http://www.adam-b.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/8/10552/49428/718/510851
(Note: The NYT piece, a couple of days newer than the blog posts, does note that von Spakowsky was later dropped from the nominations list, after Bush and the Rethugs had insisted on him for months. But David Mason, also a Republican but highly critical of McCain's shell game during the primary season, was also dropped.)
It is inconceivable that McCain was not informed of the plan. In fact, it is highly probable that he was in involved in its formulation or its approval....
Yesterday, Republicans could not have acted more narrowly in just this vein: effectively firing a Commissioner to immunize their Presidential nominee from enforcement action in a pending case but making sure that there is enough of an agency left to get him the money needed to finance his campaign.
http://www.moresoftmoneyhardlaw.com/news.html?AID=1256
Bottom line: Bush filled 2/3 of the FEC seats in June. There's no way he would have nominated anyone who would actually investigate McCain's shell game. None.
Seems to me what he did was illegal. But do the laws actually apply to Republicans??
Not usually. But you knew that already.
July 17, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, this is ridiculous.
The paragraphs beginning "It is inconceivable..." and "Yesterday, Republicans could not have acted..." were part of the blockquote. And they were, when I put in the tags.
TPM software is eating HTML tags, no matter how carefully we proof them. WTF is going on?
July 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah donors like me who've been dragging the average donation number down since Feb 2007
July 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
And me! Who knows how high the average would be without my $25 donations.
July 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Love it evie and john, me too!
July 17, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poor Republicans. Pessimism just ain't selling like it used to, I guess.
Note that the low average donation also means that it's very likely that these contributors will be able to give again.
It also indicates that there are many big donors out there who may have contributed to another Democrat previously, who didn't contribute before the end of June, and who can still be tapped.
I want to take a moment to thank all of those new donors out there who initially supported candidates other than Barack Obama. You're invaluable to the campaign. Thank you and welcome aboard. We're going to win this thing... for all of us.
July 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
and also note:
all of McCain's millions he has raised must be spent by September 1.
July 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's worth pointing out that the Obama campaign's raising of most of this money for the primary is essentially by design.
They *WANT* to do so, and, infact, have made that option the default for all donations thus far on their website.
It's not about building a huge nestegg for Obama's campaign. It's about having a real fundraising engine in place that allows "just-in-time" spending, much like a factory would lower their costs by having just enough raw materials in the factory to manufacture to their needs, and just enough finished materials to meet the immediate needs of the marketplace.
Right now, the Obama campaign can easily spend every dollar that comes in to them with maximum efficiency, because there's so much work that needs to be done with opening new campaign offices and getting Democrats registered to vote.
This won't necessarily be the case in a few months, however, as voter registration will be less of an issue, the advertising market will be saturated, and the return on investment -- the number of votes delivered per dollar spent -- will be much higher.
That's why any money raised right now is so important. Voter registration and helping out local grassroots efforts right now is the best, most important longterm investment Obama's campaign can make, because if his campaign can get just 5% more Democrats registered than in 2004, that's the margin of victory.
Frankly, I think we can do *MUCH* better than that. People are politically energized right now, and John McCain is clearly going backwards, not forwards.
July 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmmm. Nice chunk of change, Obama. I guess all those commenters who kept telling us that Obama was not raising sufficient amounts of money because his anti-FISA supporters were withholding their donations was just plain freaking wrong.
Or is there some subtlety I'm not getting?
July 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That still doesn't make it clear how this is a problem for Obama, because clearly somehow it must be, or else Andrea Mitchell's head will explode.
http://strategy08.wordpress.com
July 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's see.
$48 million raised in June from folks who have not hit the $2300 ceiling for primary donations.
$2 million from donors who have hit the $2300 ceiling and the money has rolled into the general election fund. (I think these folks have to okay this rollover but I'm not sure.)
This leaves a LOT of folks who have not yet hit the $2300 ceiling for the primary. Of course, we're not sure how far many of them are from that ceiling. But, we're at month 16 in the primary and with an average of $68 per month donation, that equals an individual paying $1088 so far. I doubt that the $1212 remaining is made up from t-shirts or yard signs or the remaining two months before the general election funding rules kick in.
This says to me that Obama can easily raise $50 million a month from now to the general election just from folks paying $68 a month--I'm certainly not rich and I've been paying $75 a month and plan to kick it to $100 after the convention. And I'm not close to the $2300 limit.
Obama is in great shape financially! And it's coming from small donors like me. How great is that!
July 17, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
One other question. I'm pretty sure that if the bulk of the money had not been designated for the primary, he would not have been allowed to spend it before the convention if he'd taken public financing. I don't know, and I'm too busy to find out, whether that rule is still operative now that he's opted out, but I can't think of any logical reason why it wouldn't be.
Not that logic and the law necessarily have anything to with each other, especially when Congress is writing campaign finance laws, of course. Any chance someone can look into that?
July 17, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really do hope that the media keeps floating myths about Obama getting lower than expected fundraising. The stories probably inspired a decent amount of folks to pitch in more money.
July 17, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL this still cracks me up. I am enjoying the WSJ and all of the other hacks/pundits yammering about his 'measly' 30mil looking like complete idiots. 'Considerably More' indeed.
Couple of comments on the posts -
All of the money that Obama raises between now and the convention is 'Primary' money unless an individual donates more than $2300. By definition, because Obama is primarily raising $ from small donors, there isn't much going into the GE kitty yet.
By opting out of public funding Obama sort of blurred the lines, he can spend primary $ anytime but any money from donors in excess of the inital 2300 is on hold until the convention.
So for those of us who have yet to reach the 2300 mark there really is no primary vs GE, it is all just money to Obama.
The fact that he only had 2mil for the GE means that there there is a lot more $$ to be had, on the other hand given that he sewed up the nomination, that also means there wasn't a big influx of 'all in' money. (4600 for the whole shebang) which could be an issue.
Although, the fact that he still got 50mil without that... who cares.
July 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
This good news made my day :) Yes we can!
July 17, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since we now have a re-constituted FEC, has anyone followed up to find out whether McCain will suffer any consequences for unilaterally opting out of public financing for the primaries, after officially opting in (and securing a loan based on that fact)?
That probably depends on who's on the FEC. And according to the NYT, it looks pretty good for McCain.
More:
http://www.moresoftmoneyhardlaw.com/news.html?AID=1256
Also:
http://www.adam-b.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/8/10552/49428/718/510851
(Note: The NYT piece, a couple of days newer than the blog posts, does note that von Spakowsky was later dropped from the nominations list, after Bush and the Rethugs had insisted on him for months. But David Mason, also a Republican but highly critical of McCain's shell game during the primary season, was also dropped.)
It is inconceivable that McCain was not informed of the plan. In fact, it is highly probable that he was in involved in its formulation or its approval....
Yesterday, Republicans could not have acted more narrowly in just this vein: effectively firing a Commissioner to immunize their Presidential nominee from enforcement action in a pending case but making sure that there is enough of an agency left to get him the money needed to finance his campaign.
http://www.moresoftmoneyhardlaw.com/news.html?AID=1256
Bottom line: Bush filled 2/3 of the FEC seats in June. There's no way he would have nominated anyone who would actually investigate McCain's shell game. None.
Seems to me what he did was illegal. But do the laws actually apply to Republicans??
Not usually. But you knew that already.
July 17, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forget this comment. Reposting above in proper place, replying to ARG in Chicago, and in hopes that TPM won't eat my tags this time.
July 17, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink