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Obama Secures Lead In Crucial Swing State Of Michigan

Barack Obama has secured a decent-sized lead in Michigan, a must-win swing state where he'd previously been a lot weaker, a new Rasmussen poll suggests.

The numbers: Obama 47%, McCain 39%, with a ±4.5% margin of error. A month ago, Obama had taken a small lead of 45%-42%, just as he'd sewn up the Democratic nomination.

Obama had stayed away from the state until very late in the game, due to the controversies surrounding their rogue primaries, but he appears to have overcome any lingering bitterness surrounding the matter that might have been out there.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/14/obama-campaign-manager-ai_n_112558.html

Obama short money due to denying PAC's, above link info.

I thought this was a bad decision when made, and looks like that is the case.

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He may be short money, but that article nor the video with Plouffe doesn't really corroborate that. They may just be using the repug bragging to bring in yet more money.

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until Obama releases his June numbers sometime this week we wont know anything.

Obama is NOT short money because he is not taking PAC and lobbyist money. That only adds up to 2-3% even for McCain and the GOP.

While Obama has raised far more than McCain overall, he had to spend far more to fend off Clinton. His fundraising is still better than McCain's, but the DNC is way, way behind the RNC in fundraising. I think Howard Dean needs to step up to the plate.

This is big-dollar fundraising, as the DNC and RNC can accept donations of up to $28,500 on top of the $2300 for the primary and $2300 for the general election.

The real question is whether Obama should have opted out of public financing for the general election. He'd get $84 million after the convention at the end of August, so basically for September and October. That's about $40 million per month. Is he really going to be able to raise and spend more than that amount for those two months?

P.S. Note that McCain was in Michigan last week and Obama was also there not too long ago, so I guess we see whose visit had more of an impact.

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keep in mind that the DCCC and DSCC has outraised the republicans by a ton. they are spending money in 30+ districts while the republicans are not.

the DNC hasn't banked much money though compared to the RNC, that is correct.

Was there any evidence that there was any real bitterness surrounding the primaries on the ground in Michigan?

Or could it be a bit of a media invention?

I think it was clintonian spin being sucked up by the right-wing media and tpm. I actually thought there was more bitterness the other way, that the clintons were trying to count the primary votes and not give a single vote to obama, in addition to the other games being played by the clintons. Also, on the revote the clintons wanted to prevent people who voted strategically in the republican primary from voting in the new primary. That's the bitterness that I saw, not bitterness against obama.

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Exactly. I'm from Michigan and was told by everyone (including Clinton) that my vote wouldn't count and even told by Clinton supporters that an "uncommitted" vote was a sabotage vote for the Democratic party. After she starts losing, she pretends it's a civil rights issue to count the vote when she was the only candidate on the ballot. I don't think anyone really called her out on the full extent of the hypocrisy of that one.

I haven't seen any polls that say the primary is affecting the November vote, but I wouldn't trust one either, because the people who would say so are most likely Republicans or die-hard Clinton supporters who never would have voted for Obama in the first place.

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GREAT POINT!

And, there wasn't really any need by the Obama camp to call out Hillary on her hypocracy on this one because by the time she got around to pushing to seat Michigan she had already lost too many delegates to Obama.

There was a very, very little bit of evidence. A pressure group formed by Clinton supporters who wanted both MI's and FL's delegations seated at full strength according to the Jan votes commissioned a poll carried out by Survey USA. This poll found (no surprise) that a substantial fraction of Michiganders would not support the democratic nominee unless the MI delegation was seated at full strength according to the results of the Jan vote. That was the extent of the evidence for the claim, and even that small datum was always somewhat suspect given that the poll was conducted by an organization with a vested interest in the outcome of the survey.

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THE MEDIA WAS THE ARCHITECT Of That Socalled BitterNess! The Same Is True Hear in My Home Town, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA which is Racking Up Record Breaking Democratic Voter Registration including STATE WIDE!!

The MSM is Good at Selling Bull-S*&T!!!

Ras also released a Louisiana poll with McCain up 20 points. This pretty much confirms that LA is out of contention, though their model assumes a 25% drop in African-American turnout. Adjusted to 2004's demographics, McCain's lead is smaller but still commanding.

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So far, it looks like McCain's pulling closer in the national head-to-head, but Obama's pulling away in the swing states.

I can live with that.

The disparity is interesting but predictable.

As the conservatives come home, McCain should amass massive leads in states like West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, etc., but this will be countered by Obama holding smaller-but-sufficient leads in the majority of swing states. In fact, it's possible that McCain could pull ahead 3-5 points in the national polls while Obama still holds a 30-50 EV lead.

I'm not sure that your analysis of the numbers works. While conservatives will probably come home to McCain in the states you mention, those numbers in total popular vote are more than offset by the large margins Obama will run up in California, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, VT, CT, NJ, Hawaii, and probably MN,WI, Washington State, and several other states.

Coupled with larger African-American turnout (that should give Obama a greater vote total than Kerry in urban areas and in a number of southern states, even if he doesn't win them), a more enthusiastic Democratic base, and being more competitive in states Kerry wasn't (Kansas, Montana, Indiana, North Dakota, Virginia, etc) -- it is hard for me to imagine a scenario where McCain is 3-5% ahead in popular vote while Obama is winning the EV.

There are very few states (TX, KY, TN, OK, UT, WY, ID, WV, AZ, SD) where McCain seems likely to run up the kinds of margins that would make that happen - and of those states, only TX and TN are very large and it isn't even clear Texas will be a blowout as big as the past since their hometown boy isn't on the ballot. Unless McCain somehow breaks away huge in FL, NC, SC, GA, MS etc and closes the margin in traditionally Democratic states, the math just doesn't work.

In all polling, but especially this year, the challenge of predicting who will vote makes it hard to figure out exactly what the polls mean at this stage of the race. Different turnout models (national and state) vary in terms of key factors such as % of the electorate that is African-American, how many new and young voters will be brought in this year, what is the accurate party ID % to include in the polling mix, how enthusiastic is each party's base, etc. These days I think looking at each poll's internals is essential to making comparisons or looking for trends. From what I can tell, that accounts for a lot of the movement in some polls and the differences between many state polls and national polls.

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Yes, turnout is the key to this election. And, most polls seem very conservative (and I don't mean this politically) when it comes to changing turnout models versus previous elections.

In addition to the groups you mention there is the overall swing towards the overall number of seld-identified Democrats. The underlying numbers are just off.

I honestly don't understand where McCain's support in these polls is coming from. I give more credence to the state by state polls and they show Obama up in all Kerry states (see the Pew poll of last week) and up overall in the battleground states.

I still think this will be an electoral blowout.

And, with Obama pulling away in Michigan it reduces the chances that McCain will pick Romney as his VP.

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STROSZEK,

I AGREE, I am not putting much weight on these "Daily Tracking Polls" Because the Fact is, Obama can still win regardless if he is TIE or DOWN in the National Tracking Polls!

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That does seem to be happening and we all know the election is decided in the electoral college.

One point on the tightening national numbers. The number to watch is McCains. Why? Well despite whether Obama is leading by 1 or by 15 points, McCain's number is always in the low 40's range. In the latest generic ballot matchups the GOP candidate is usually in the low 40's. McCain seems to be getting the GOP "no matter what" vote.

Obama seems to bounce around from mid 40's to just at 50%. He has a more solid base and seems to have a higher ceiling. If he runs a good campaign he would seems a better bet to win.

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I think the national polls reflect the media narratives and the state polls reflect whats happening on the ground. I think.

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Michigan was never a state in play

CNN still has it as a tossup lol. what a joke station.

Obama will win it easily

Well, I had thought that McCain would be surprisingly competitive in MI, but I would be delighted to be wrong about that. Perhaps the sour economy has left folks in peninsula amoena too distrusting of the Republicans even when the Republican in question is McCain?

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The race between McSame and Obama seems to be tightening in the national polls, but Obama is pulling ahead in the battleground state polls.

I mean, these polls just prove how pathetic of a candidate McLame really is. McLame's only platform message is: Lets stay in Iraq.

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This is really amazing. Obama is pulling away in the state polls but McCain appears strong in national polls.

I want to remind folks too that Obama was behind Clinton in the national polls at the time he was raking-up those 11 win in a row. It was after that, I believe, that he pulled ahead.

I really hate those national polls. They are meaningless. Look at the swing state polls and obama is pulling way ahead. I wish they would just ignore those stupid national polls in the media. They make no sense. As you pointed out about the primaries. I think obama was trailing in the national polls even after he had the primary wrapped up in February. It was all bs right-wing media spin that was driving the stupid national polls. Pathetic.

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the gallup and rasmussen tracking polls are fun, but they dont mean anything.. the state by state polling is much more accurate.

if Obama is winning states like MI and WI by 7-10 points, then its likely that his lead nationally is probably 5-7 points.

I really have a hard time trying to figure out the rational for these national polls. He is leading in virtually all the swing states by around 5 points or so. Plus you throw in the two huge population states of NY and Cali, where he is crushing mcbush, then how can he be tied in the national polls? It really doesn't make sense. I bet that accurately he is probably leading mcbush nationally by 10 points or more right now, based on these facts alone.

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Zhonni,

Your memory is sharp! I too, remember when Hillary was ahead in the polls and Obama came from behind in the primary poll and pulled a stunning upset. I think too often the cynics, pundits and MSM underestimates Obama's skills as politician.

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Zhonni,

Your memory is sharp! I too, remember when Hillary was ahead in the polls and Obama came from behind in the primary poll and pulled a stunning upset. I think too often the cynics, pundits and MSM underestimates Obama's skills as a politician.

New York magazine has an article accusing McCain of running Hillary Clinton's failed campaign. Go to the Huffington post and check out the article.

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I AGREE!!

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