New York Times To McCain: Cut The Crap
The New York Times has just responded to the accusation lobbed today by the McCain campaign that the paper was displaying bias against the Republican candidate by asking him to rewrite an Op-ed about Iraq because it didn't meet the paper's standards for publication.
Times spokesperson Catherine Mathis sends over this...
It is standard procedure on our Op-Ed page, and that of other newspapers, to go back and forth with an author on his or her submission. We look forward to publishing Senator McCain's views in our paper just as we have in the past. We have published at least seven Op-Ed pieces by Senator McCain since 1996. The New York Times endorsed Senator McCain as the Republican candidate in the presidential primaries. We take his views very seriously.
The McCain camp had charged that the rejection proved that the paper was unreceptive to his views on the war. But the paper's Opinion Page Editor, David Shipley, had emailed the campaign with a specific objection: He wanted not just an attack on Obama, but a detailed explanation of McCain's plan, including (gasp!) a definition of what constitutes "victory."
If you take a look at McCain's original Op ed submission, you can see that it's little more than a broadside aimed at Obama's Iraq plan combined with the de rigeur hailing of McCain's own prescience on the surge.
Please. This one's a no-brainer.















The problem with what the Times did was that it asked McCain to actually explain his own plan in detail, rather than just attack Obama's plan using random buzz-words like "victory!" and "surrender!"
Has the NYTimes no shame?
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July 21, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is now lying about Obama's stance on the betray-us ad from 2007. If you recall, back then:
July 21, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I said in another thread, offering no new ideas and attacking Obama is all McCain has!
July 21, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
"He wanted ...a detailed explanation of McCain's plan, including (gasp!) a definition of what constitutes 'victory.'"
I'd be interested in what Obama's definition of what constitutes "victory" as well, but of course that isn't required of him.
July 22, 2008 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
But the media has always done whatever McOld says, what changed? They published Obama's piece which hardly mentioned McOld, so shouldn't they publish McOld's attack piece?
July 21, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The NYT knows that it is completely unfair to try to make a GOP candidate define the terms he uses in debate. Truthiness is all they have.
July 21, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've rarely heard McCain speak a coherent sentence. Odds seem slim that he has ever actually authored ANYTHING. If the NYT ends up publishing a McCain op/ed, they should insist on proof that he wrote it or credit the real person(s) responsible.
July 21, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That will never happen... Don't you understand, part of McCain's "POW Priveliges" is that simple things, like writing your own oped, don't apply to him.
POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge, POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge, POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge, POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge, POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge, POW, surge, surge, surge, POW, surge, surge surge.
And that, my friends, is what we can expect from team Metamucile until November.
I see a drinking game! Who has a liver to spare?
July 21, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT, I know, but that "matrix vs. metamucil" comment is still making me laugh. Hilariously.
And I know that this is wrong, but I just can't help myself....
July 21, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you aren't alone. That one comment on Politico is commented on almost as much as the picture juxtaposition.
July 21, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
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July 21, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain: For the last time, GET OFF MY LAWN!
July 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Property of 41--Hands Off!!!"
July 21, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has become "WHINER IN CHIEF" lately. All he has been doing is WHINE, WHINE, WHINE about everything.
He hasn't given voters any reason to vote FOR him. All it is negative, negative, negative, against Obama. Obama, on the other hand, looks presidential, above the fray.
I call McCain now "McWhine".
In terms of the NYT OpEd, all McCain has to do is define "success" in Iraq and what conditions would need to be met in order for troops to come home.
Simple task that McCain can't do because he has NO plan for Iraq.
July 21, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, as we all now know- the United States has become a nation of whiners. He's just showing his strength at being Whiner In Chief!
It's too easy.
July 21, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is upset bc it takes a long time to write an op-ed in a medium with which he is comfortable- hieroglyphics.
July 21, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like Johnny got an "incomplete" on his homework assignment.
July 21, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The original Op-Ed piece, printed on Drudge, was a diatribe against Obama that would have made McCain sound a teeny tiny bit hysterical...his campaign should be glad they get a chance to clean it up, and have the Times publish it, because it's going to get a lot more attention after this.
Or maybe not. More pictures of McCain riding around in the golf cart with GB Senior and the "Property of #41 Hands Off!!!" sign might just distract everyone...
July 21, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
McLame sure isn't having a good few days here, is he. The combination of everything that's going on, and the coverage the MSM can't help giving it despite itself, is making Obama look like a giant and McOld look like a little terrier yapping and trying to bite his ankles. Ever so much fun to watch.
July 21, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too true, and what does a politician do in such circumstances? Why, they attack the media of course.
Only this time I'm not so sure working the refs is going to work.
July 21, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just re-read Obama's op-ed, which was titled, "My Plan for Iraq". And, wonder or wonders, he actually uses most of the space to explain - his plan for Iraq! Heck, he even squeezes in some stuff about Afghanistan!
Yes, it included a few jabs at McCain and Bush, but only to setup what he would do differently. McCain's plan consists of a word - victory. No description of how we're going to get there. In fact, he doesn't even define victory.
It's actually kind of sad when you compare and contrast the two - can McCain become anymore pathetic? Perhaps the Times should have published the piece as-is and titled is, "My Attack Piece on Obama".
July 21, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
McLame is only bringing back the attention to the heart of the issue: Define Victory. Bush/McCain have failed to do so for 7 years, and now just when it seems Americans will be happy just to oblige and leave Iraq, he is cornering himself.
July 21, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know most in MSM will blame the NYT for being unfair "liberal" outfit. But I, for one, finally give Kudos for their op-ed team. The NYT is not an extension of McLame's website.
July 21, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
One more thing. Does this stuff - ie, leaking it to Drudge and then saying they might just go ahead an publish it in the NY Post instead - really work on anybody but the base? I know folks on the far right hate the NYT. And we folks here on the far to not-so-far left also have our problems with the paper. But I think most people who aren't political junkies just see it as a big circulation newspaper with a long and respected history.
July 21, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The TIMES and other papers also require that an OpEd have something new (facts, ideas, arguments), so publishing an exact regurgitation of what McCain says every day hardly would have cut it.
July 21, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain seems desperate and reeling. Is it because no one is listening to him or is this an example of what his presidency will look like, "desperate and reeling" from every opposition in policy.
The democratic congress will not, might be worse, help ease his nerves. Also, it will be a stronger congress with disgruntle democrats with out an agreement to cause trouble.
It would be fun to see the oversight committees kick it into high gear regardless of the president. This Attorney/Siegleman fiasco has to come to fruition. Valerie Plame, military contracts, and the truth about Iraq need no agreements in place to impede the progress in the new congress and presidential term.
Also, private overseas banking will be a big one next year. We might see a few names out of the 19,000 Americans that we might recognize. This will be a fun one and probably needs to be stepped up for the fall elections. Might be some revelation in on republican campaign financing and its contributors, stay tuned.
July 21, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
... And in conclusion my plan will lead to victory. And that is a good thing because victory is good.
-- Johnny McCain's 7th grade essay titled "How I Would Win Victory"
July 21, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
HaHa! Golf cart with who? George Senior! Wearing a white turtleneck? ROFL. And he is trying to distance himself from Boy George? He is a mess!
July 21, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The NYT should have asked both camps for their pieces at the same time and printed them on the same day.
This is all an attempt to make this election a referendum on Obama and then they cry because Obama gets more press coverage. If McCain put out ideas of their own other than attack after attack then there might be something to cover. Obama does get move coverage, but he also faces a lot more critical coverage whereas all McCain coverage is virtually fluff pieces.
I support the idea of McCain getting more MSM coverage if it means they'll also cover him more critically. The MSM is doing McCain a favor by not covering him because then he'd expose himself as the bumbling fool he is. Be careful what you wish for McCain Camp.
If Obama was complaining about the critical coverage discrepancy the GOP would be riled up calling him a "whiner", among other names. It is curious that these complaints surface during Obama's overseas visits because Camp McCain wants to try and get the media to limit coverage and downplay the Obama story right now more than ever.
July 21, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Waaaah!!! The mean ol' NYT won't publish my screed, WAAAAH!!!
July 21, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good for the NYT. If McCain wants to run his attack ad for free, let him go to the NY Post.
July 21, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was obvious in 2002 when they started throwing about pretext after pretext that the McBush War Party NEVER had a plan to leave Iraq.
Then as now, their's was a plan to stay
100 years even
July 21, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course I understand Party Loyalty, and Republicans are fanatical about it, but hearing Poll numbers that have McCain and Obama anywhere near each other--I literally pull my hair out by the roots. How can any citizen who loves our country not realize how perilous this election could be if it hands back to BushLite the reins of State. Bush has literally crushed America--politically , economically, socially--made a pariah of all she stands for in the World. With the exception of Elizabeth Hasselbeck of The View , I just can't believe that Republicans will actually go to the polls and vote for McCain. Maybe they'll stay home. Now that's a thought.
July 21, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
At first, I thought the McCain campaign was just dumb, but it was actually a pretty clever plan if you think about it. The campaign writes this op-ed/attack ad and submit it to the Times. Of course, it's going to be rejected. But, instead of simply changing it, they make a big, public, stink of the fact that it was rejected, and they release the original text on the web. This serves two purposes: the campaign gets to rant about how unfair the obviously biased liberal media is toward Obama (and outrage the right in the process). They also get the text out there on the network where it gets more - and free - press then an acceptable op-ed piece would ever get.
Two birds, one stone. Sad, but very clever.
July 21, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
this crap is yet another example of the corporate media bending over backwards to protect Senator Wackadoo from himself.
The single biggest gift that can be given to McCain is to fail to put on display the true depth of human refuse that the once proud member of the Keating Five has been reduced into.
NYT STOP PROTECTING MCCAIN!
July 22, 2008 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with most of what you all say here, but you are forgetting one VERY important detail:
The dumbing down of America. Most folks on these web sites are intelligent, thoughtful readers. They pay attention to facts and details (otherwise known as The Truth), but we all tend to live in a protected state of denial. Try talking to some of those from the other side.
Too many Americans are what we call "information challenged." They don't listen and read beyond the sugar-coated, corporate-owned mainstream media. They watch American Gladiator (remember the Roman Empire?) and believe the propaganda that is repeated over and over by the idiots they elected. They drink the Koolaid, believe the lies, and repeat the lies to each other, no matter how inane. When I talk with them, they repeat the lies to me to explain their vote, and they can't begin to understand the truth, when I try to present it in the simplest terms.
Many Americans are pretty simple-minded, and they are more inclined to listen to a simple message over and over - - and they are LESS inclined to think critically. THOSE PEOPLE VOTE. Look who they elected - TWICE! Don't be so sure they won't do it again.
Obama is a Muslim.
Obama is a Socialist.
Obama flip-flops, and McCain doesn't.
McCain is a great leader.
It goes on, but y'all know the rest.
July 22, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink