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McCain's Town Hall: Giggles, Crocs

This appearance by McCain at a town-hall today is just weird. Check out our highlight reel...

What's up with that giggle?

One thing that hasn't really entered the media narrative of this race is that McCain just isn't a very good candidate. We've seen a bit of this, but despite the fact that this time around the guy with the candidate skills is the Democrat, and the stiff one is the Republican, there's just no way McCain's stump struggles will ever get nearly the level of attention that Al Gore and John Kerry's deficiencies got.


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What's up with that giggle?
It's written into the speech, and he's a poor, unconvincing, and unnatural speech-reader.

Was this supposed to be a trick question?

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Speaking of mature content, did you people know that in 2000 McCain said "I hate the gooks, I will hate them as long as I live."???!:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/07/john-mccain-says-i-hate-gooks-and-media.html

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That doesn't compare with him calling his wife a cunt.

Discretion (sp.)

This and the green screen speech are worse than Clinton's "change we can Xerox" line which was a stupid line AND delivered poorly. And this was during a "town hall meeting" ... supposedly McCain's strong point.

Wow ... I wondered (briefly) how this guy became the nominee and then I remembered all the other candidates. I wonder what it says about them that this is the best they had to offer!

God, he's seriously painful to watch. I'm actually embarrassed for him.

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He is the creepiest damn presidential candidate I've ever seen and that includes Nixon.

That picture that was on the front page of TPM for days - that closeup of McLame where all the folds in his neck were highlighted - creeped me right out. He looked like he has a scarecrow head- a stuffed feed sack.

He's just flat creepy.

Makes Bob Dole look like a stud.

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Definitely creepier, even than Nixon. I'm pretty sure the sorting hat would place him in Slytherin.

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One thing that hasn't really entered the media narrative of this race is that McCain just isn't a very good candidate

LOL! This is a dry understatement if there ever was.

While it's clear we've been given the gift of a somewhat weak opposing candidate, complacency is not an option. I really hope to hear Obama hitting back on some of this crap soon.

If I were the Obama campaign I'd just run ads featuring nothing but snippets like that of McCain talking followed by, "Do you really want this guy to be your President?"

If I were the Obama campaign, I'd ask for presidential debates to start tomorrow. Seriously. There will be blood on the stage.

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What do you think the odds are that McDepends goes nuts on stage and tries to take a swing at Obama?

I, fo one, fully expect him to use the N word in one of the debates.

Nigga, how dare ya run for President (wink & smile)...heeee

ROTFLMAOOOOOOOO!

Good one

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Saturation. I think this might be one reason he's waiting. Just like people have overdosed on Wright taking away from its usefulness for the Republicans, Obama might want to hold back on McCain right now, as well. He should wait until closer to the election.

That video is hilarious for all the wrong reasons, the same way you might laugh at an extremely low budget slasher flick. The cryptkeeper called, he wants his painfully irritating giggle back. This is why the debates can't come soon enough, Mike Tyson vs. Leon Spinks, the 85' Bears vs. the Patriots, the 92' Dream Team vs The World, Obama vs. McCain. Its not even going to be close.

I thought the 90 Countries Crocs sold to were all in Colorado... not around the world.

What an informative speech.

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That giggle of McSames is just weird. It is like he is imitating Jon Stewart immitating Dubya.

And what is up with the crowd. The delay between the lines and the applause looks, well, fabricated. I'm wondering if there isn't some McDepends staffer holding up an "applause" sign.

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Well d'uh.

That's pretty universal, I think. ;)

He seems like a terrible comedian trying to deliver poorly written one liners. I kept waiting to hear the "ba-domp bomp" of the drum.

Situations like these are an excellent opportunity to use the instant rimshot.

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Okay, I'm now officially sick to my stomach from laughing. Thanks for that link. It will come in handy oh so often.

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Yes, very cool link! Where did you find that? Did you make it? Are there more like it??

I found it exactly as you did. Somebody on the internet introduced it into a forum thread, right when it was needed. I have no idea who made it. Go ye forth and illuminate punchlines everywhere!

I love the Colbert Report's "Green Screen" project which really shows how poor of a speech giver mcFuddle truly is.

McFuddle is as weak as an ice cube in the Gulf Of Mexico during summer.

I quite appreciate the delayed applause; it's comforting to know that folks seeing it live are equally confused as us. The less cognitive dissonance, the better.

The last bit is the best. The air quotes, the lame attempt at a witty soundbite, everything.

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McDepends has shown he can't deliver a soundbite, hell, even Dubya could deliver a sound bite.

You should have included the part at the beginning...

After Cindy introduced him, She gave McCain a kiss on the cheek... He wiped it off and made the weirdest face as if he had been licked by a dog.

I swear. It was totally weird.

He didn't want to look like a trollop like that c**t Cindy.

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What does he bend down and pick up at the end of the speech? It sure looked like a cane.

Are we not supposed to see that he walks with a cane? It might make us think he's "old"? But he IS old! Old is as old does, and no one does old like McCain (except maybe Robert Byrd).

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Actually, it looks like a hand-held mic, probably for Q&A.

"Ya know, some economists don't think much of my Gas Tax Holliday..."

I believe that was the high-water mark. Un.Effn.Believable.

But the American people that are dumb enough to believe anything I say... Like the idea.

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I agree - it was downhill from there.


LOL!

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And his attempt to play with Obama's slogan was truly pathetic. I'm generally not particularly quick with a comeback (I usually think of a great one an hour later) but even I immediately thought of "I'm not saying 'no, we can't', I'm saying 'no, that's a stupid idea.' I think we've all had enough of a president who doesn't want to hear that."

Don't worry, his weird laugh after that line sort of defused it by itself.

"No, we can't, huhuhuhhmmmmm"

McCain wanted to go to the Naval Academy...he did, and dragged the tail end coming out.

McCain wanted to be a real live fighter pilot...he did, and crashed and burned five times.

McCain wanted to be the Republican nominee for President of the United States... he is, and in his little shriveled mean-spirited black heart, he knows he's crashing and burning again.

I'm gonna love watching him auger in for the final time.

I hope McCain gives more of these "jokes" during the debates. Like watching a four-year-old deliver standup. "Obama's your man. Hmummummmmuhhhhh..."

Has anyone else noticed that C-Span has stopped televising Presidential campaign events?

During the Democratic and Republican primaries, it seemed like they were on three or four times a week, if not daily. Now, nothing.

I wonder why that is.

Every time I watch him speak at these town hall events, I wonder where the hell the enthusiasm is. With both him and the crowd. It's like it's nonexistent, and there's a strain to get any sort of applause, cheering or excitement.

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And these are the events at which he "excels".

These "highlight" snippets need to come with a warning label.

I know, seriously.

Yep the MSM may not scrutinize as much as they should but it sure looks like Mccain has lost Drudge...and to me that is likely way more significant especially with headlines like this on Drudge's front-page:

IRAQ MAY SET TIMETABLE FOR WITHDRAWAL

I can't believe there is a reasonable chance we could lose to this guy. How in the world did he get so far with such poor basic campaigning skills?

Did anyone see the speech he gave at the convention in 2004? Cringe-inducing as well, and quite surprising to me, since it was the first time I saw him give a speech.

First answer is POW and second answer is the power of incumbency.

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The third reason is his wife's money.
But I don't know if even Rupert Murdoch will pony up this time.

I can't believe there is a reasonable chance we could lose to this guy.

I said the same thing. Once in 2000 and again 2004. As bad as this guy is, we have to work hard for Obama.

John McCain will be 72 years old on August 29th, 2008. How long before The Grime Reaper sets a McDrawal date?

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I have a question for everyone. I admit, I didn't follow the 2000 Republican primary very closely. Was McCain a similarly charismatic performer in 2000? Does anyone remember?

Any word on how the owners of Crocs reacted to this depressing endorsement? It is hard to imagine a Boulder-based company actively endorsing John McCain. And it is even harder to believe they'd want their hip, kid-friendly brand associated with old Popeye the grouchy man.

Is Crocs a publicly-traded company? If it is, I'd hate to be holding that stock today.

Are you kidding me? Unless he said that Crocs caused cancer or some such, any mention is free advertising. You won't find this speech on their website to be sure, but they had to be pleased as punch that they are now in the "American ideal" meme promoted -- because in 1 week no one will remember who introduced that idea. They will just remember that idea.

I don't think so at all. Knowing Boulder, and knowing who buys Crocs, it is not an association they want. My kids wear Crocs all the time. One look at this video, and they'll move on to something else.

Can we get a picture of McCain in shorts and crocs?

::shudder::

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Yes, nothing goes together as easily as the words "McCain" and "Crock" -- but a picture wouldn't hurt.

Your kids aren't going to change their views until you are wearing the crocs.

In the meantime, there are a lot of other people that probably haven't heard about crocs -- but now have.

I have had my company espoused by both sides of the aisle -- and I quietly take pride in it's universal appeal. It only increases business.

We'll see. I'm waiting to hear from the company's founders. I bet they quickly distance themselves from McCain and in a few days we hear that the founders have actively supported Obama.

Sorry to be pursuing this like a bull dog, but I know Boulder all too well.

Check this out from Huffington Post on April 15: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/crocs-shocks-with-massive_n_96713.html

Crocs has had to fire 600 employees and close a Canadian plant because of the lousy economy.

Which news source will be the first to fully track down this inconsistency?

Now this is hysterical. I can get behind the idea that "McCain can't pick a winner" idea.

One of the reasons why Croc was a poor example to begin with is that it was obviously a fad. Fads are not good long term business models.

Okay, we've gone from the cackle to the giggle.

Some of the comments here, seem to indicate that we should elect people that are just smooth for television.

You know, like Reagan.

The truth is we like to see McCain portrayed this way because we already aren't voting for him. However, if the Dem candidate were the one who was a stiff guy who didn't seem to relate to the public, but really had all the good ideas, how would you feel if people used that stiffness as a reason not to vote for him.

Like Gore in 2000.

Let's remind ourselves to what we are really saying before we conveniently pile on.

I think it's just good ol' fashioned Schadenfreude.

But McCain doesn't have any good ideas to boot.

Can we pile on now?

Hey, pile on for SCOTUS comments, War Policy, or the dumb "gas tax holiday". All I'm saying is that in this particular year, the Democrats happen to have the charismatic guy -- which is good for us.

But these same people can't acknowledge that Reagan was the master of the mass media and that's why he held sway over the country -- regardless of content. Or that Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and others, were less than inspiring -- even if they were better for the country than their opponents.

Hell, some of the people here didn't like that Obama blew Hillary out of the water for the same exact reasons. That Obama was an "empty suit". And that Hillary's ideas meant more than delivery. Or is just 3 months ago too long for the collective memory?

You can't have it both ways. Though some do try.


I would argue that an important part of leadership is charisma. You have to have the social skills to be able to make people want to see things your way - to want to follow you. If you creep them out or bore them stiff, you're going to be a very effective leader, no matter how great your ideas might be.

Meant to say that "you're NOT going to be a very effective leader..."

I agree, Carol, of course. But how many left-of-center people have you heard bitch and moan how it was unfair that Reagan got elected when he wasn't that bright? This particular cycle we have the charisma. Next cycle may be different... but people should be consistent.

By the way, in a similar vein, Hillary had candidate problems because she was polarizing - preventing her from effectively leading. However, her supporters kept saying that shouldn't have been a consideration since she was the policy wonk. And some of those people are posting here now, on the other side of the issue... ;-)

True, true. I didn't like it when people were calling Gore a stiff. Not because I thought that they shouldn't call him out on his public speaking style, but because they were suggesting that Bush had more charisma than Gore. BUSH! Geezus! That guy was so clearly a freakin' idiot from Day One, it was embarrassing to watch him. And the press painted him as being more likeable than Gore.

Like lipstick on a pig...

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That's a good point. The superficialities of a performance shouldn't dissuade you from voting for him. However, since he advocates crappy policies and a continuation of the current disaster of an Administration, the superficialities that are so strange with this individual are just icing on the cake.

And, to point out a bit of hypocrisy in the press, McCain's consistently underwhelming performance draws nary a nod from the media.


I dunno. I think it's perfectly fine to attack him on policy issues (as we all do) while also making fun of his horrid public speaking. No one here has said they're not voting for McCain solely because of his "stiffness." We're just having a laugh.

i think the reason his terrible oratorial skills have received no attention is fear of ageism. you can't talk about it without noting that he looks like a doddering alzheimers patient

Say "G'night," Grampy.

I don't know, but I find Nader to be equally boring and uninspiring.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/07/06/sanchez.ralph.nader.interview.cnn

He's never served in any sort of elected office, either. However, you can't really evaluate Nader based on normal candidate standards. The majority of his votes come from dissatisfaction with other party's candidates rather than genuine passion for him.

Just watched some of the painful experience of "hardball" with Howard Fineman giving a post review of the speech McCain gave in Colorado. Towards the end he mentioned that McCain now has to use 3 teleprompters now rather than the traditional two. How can he say that he is going to save us money? If he were to become president we as taxpayers would all have to foot a partial portion of the bill for that x-tra teleprompter every time he gave a press conference! Barack Obama surely would not need the x-tra teleprompter and would thus cost us less. How could McCain claim that he is going to save us money if he himself needs x-tra equiptment just to give us a conference? McCain's telepormpter Tax will surely tip us over the edge!

To hardball's credit they pretty much cleared Obama of a flip-flop on Iraq and stated that it was mostly to the credit of MSM. But not to their credit they made it sound as if this was some sort of test on Obama on this issue becoming a bit of a murmur in the MSM. They have been murmuring about Obama seemingly non preferential treatment to the media. Could they maybe come to the conclusion that because of the created drama episodes such as this "faux Iraq flip-flop" hoolabaloo and their failure in the lead up to the war in Iraq that he might want to keep a bit of a distance from the press for its lack of accountability and the dangers of gossip campaigns?

I love the way Todd and Fineman tried to "create" an opening for Mccain in the economy without realizing when the message is delivered in a bag of windy turds it doesn't matter that the contents are gold, which obviously they are not.

mccain is truly deadwood...the frightening thing is that he seems worse than bush when it comes to intellect

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McCain:

1. All the charm of Richard Nixon

2. All the awareness of Ronald Reagan

3. All the fortitude of George H.W. Bush

4. All of the love of corporations over flesh and blood humans of William J. Clinton

5. All the ability of to understand the universe of George W. Bush

I still can't believe Republicans picked him over Mitt Romney.


The big story that is going untold in this cycle (Olberman will no doubt hit it) is conservatives going after Mccan pre-convention. This could get really ugly for him and force him into that awkard no win situation Bush Sr faced in 92' when evangelicals dominated and dictated a losing strategy.

why why why did I have to watch that s...clip! will McCain's concession speech be this bad...?

And so the reason Obama didn't want to go up against him in a series of town halls is ......??

If I have one criticism to make of the Obama campaign, it was that decision. McCain is (well, can be) excellent in a town hall -- but so can Obama. I know Obama's ahead in the polls and frontrunners aren't supposed to take chances like that .................. but the more familiar people are with him the better he does. Right now to a LARGE section of the voting public, he's a total unknown. And remember where the "don't know enough" or "can't decide" vote went in the primaries --- at the last minute they broke, significantly, for the familiar.

Elizabeth2, I was just thinking the same thing. It would actually have provided great entertainment!

I think it could be:

1. Town halls would be free advertising for McCain (any free air time is good for McCain, since his campaign has less dough than Obama.

2. (I'm not 100% this would be a problem) but I would be afraid of Republican dirty tricks stacking the deck. I mean, if it was truly an open town hall, sure. Obama would win. However, the Republicans don't play fair.

3. The McCain team wanted it too bad, like Hillary's campaign wanted it near the end. Obama should set the agenda. There's plenty enough time for debates. Kerry and Bush had what -- only three debates? McCain's proposition of 10 town halls seemed a little over the top and desperate this early, as he should be.

I think he was much better in 2000, because he was free to play the role of "maverick" and shoot from the hip. Now he is hemmed in by his Republican masters and simultaneously trying to be the maverick of old and the trustworthy establishment candidate.

It is just awkward and he is not doing a good job pulling it off.

Riiiight. Because months of intensive Democratic nominee stuff hasn't already introduced the nation to him in one form or another. To the Democrats and anyone who watched TV news in the last few months they already know a lot about Obama via debate coverage and the like.

The "Obama's an unknown" meme is one that's mostly past its expiration date by now. And Obama never refused to do the town hall thing, he merely wanted to do 2 town halls plus the regular three debates, which is still more than usual in general elections.

He sounds like a 6th grader giving a public speech in English class for the first time.

I think this post from a while ago has some resonance today with this article. Read more:
http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/05/flashback.html

True, true. I didn't like it when people were calling Gore a stiff. Not because I thought that they shouldn't call him out on his public speaking style, but because they were suggesting that Bush had more charisma than Gore. BUSH! Geezus! That guy was so clearly a freakin' idiot from Day One, it was embarrassing to watch him. And the press painted him as being more likeable than Gore.

Like lipstick on a pig...

I think that GWB did have more charisma than Gore. That was GWB's good fortune -- he ran against someone with all the personality of a piece of plywood.

Having said that, and having met Gore subsequently, I can say that he took the lesson to heart and is now not the same person. I have always had a great amount of respect for someone who can grow like that later in life -- most people won't.

The joke is that this growth allowed him to build an entirely new public platform based on his personality alone!

The fact that Rove and his people packaged Bush's dumb yokel act as charisma is incredible to me. That man doesn't have charisma. He is literally embarrassing. The quality of charisma is not only that you're a nice enough guy, but that your quality is special enough, that you stand apart as being so different, that people want to follow you. George never had that. Never. Rove's people painted him as being less threatening to Joe Six-Pack than smart-guy Al Gore, but that's not the same as charisma.

The facts are that people in the mid-west found him likable. Just because you are packaged, doesn't mean a thing if it strains credibility. Did I feel that way about him? No. But then again, I don't vote for him either.

Ok. That was a morbid 2:18 of my life that i'll never get back. That clip just reaffirms what a douchebag McCain is. November can't come soon enough!

at what point does McCain's own embarrassment, which is evident in this video, tell Republicans that they got the wrong guy. Is anybody considering an anti-McCain coup in St. Paul?

John McCain is one of the last people I would want to see become President - but after viewing the video (twice) and reading through the comments, it seems to me that a lot of people on this thread are seeing what they want to see, and not what is. He was a little goofy, sure, but an "embarrassment"? Hardy. If anything, his style makes him seem authentic - and I think that's what people react to. It will be VERY interesting to get McCain and Obama on the same stage in a debate and see how they play side by side. I may be being overly influenced by having just re-read David McCullough's Truman (who in a poll of 50 influential journalists of the time was voted by exactly zero of these journalists as the likely winner of the election, and for many of the kinds of reasons being batted about by the blogosphere today about McCain). I would say in mocking and writing off McCain for his poor campaign skills, we may be underestimating him, to our peril.

I'm sorry, I don't think we should be complacent, but I just don't think this would make McCain seem "authentic" to an uncommitted voter. He reads the lines so poorly it almost seems like he doesn't understand what the words mean, and it makes it very hard to follow the actual ideas, if there are any. Even if they were superior ideas, one would be so distracted by the delivery that one probably wouldn't hear them.

I think one of the secrets that makes Obama such an exceptional speaker is really something very simple: unlike every president (and most candidates) in modern history, he writes the majority of his own speeches mostly by himself. His words always sounds natural and sincere because they are always in his own "voice." The reason McCain does better in town halls (the parts where he's speaking extemporaneously), is because he's using his own words and so he sounds sincere.

I do think it is unfortunate, in some ways, that we voters are a tad shallow in the way we pick our president. Then again, most people (including me and, I suspect, other political junkies on this blog) do not have the personal expertise to independently judge all of the ideas on their merits. Sure it's easy with things like the gas-tax holiday when it's like, 100% of economists to 0%. But who here has personal expertise to say how many troops can be expected to remove what amount of equipment from a middle eastern country at what rate? Or at what rate offshore drilling is likely or unlikely to produce what volume of oil? Most of us rely on the experts we trust or whose arguments we find compelling and to some extent, our party or idealogical affiliation to help us determine who's right. For truly independent voters it is probably almost always a character judgement and most people believe, at least, that they are personally very good judges of character.

I believe a dispassionate observer would think, after reading the body language and following the campaigns of the two men, that Obama is expressing his own ideas and is in charge of his own campaign, whereas, clips like this make it seem like someone else (in fact an incoherent chorus) is telling McCain what to say and what to do, and even he can't make sense of it. I really think Kerry's fatal flaw was not any one position or statement, but at crucial moments he seeemed unsure of what to do or who to be and he seemed to hesitate and wait for other people--either in his campaign, or more effectively, in the Republican attack machine--to define what he believed. In contrast, Bush's arrogance probably read as self-confidence to many voters and most people probably expect their president to be at least a little arrogant.

I think any coverage with footage of the candidates themselves is better for Obama. The more the coverage is in the form of pundits interpreting events and press releases, the better it is for McCain--because their pundits are better at spin and have their own TV station dedicated to propaganda.

What is it exactly about John McCain that has much of the news culture enamored with him? Watching McCain speak before an audience, one is convinced that it's not charisma that draws the media in. And a quick glance of McCain's voting record reveals that McCain not only has a penchant for flipping on issues, but he is far from being the maverick that he is often portrayed to be. And listening to his agenda, it's quite obvious that McCain doesn't have a firm grasp of the issues nor a unique outlook moving forward. Some have pointed out that McCain makes excellent barbeque, but surely seasoned meat is not reason enough to provide favorable coverage for a politician for decades. While McCain was a prisoner of war some thirty-five years ago, does that experience alone provide a lifetime of media cover? And how exactly does the McCain biography help change the price of gas or turn the economy around?

At least with Nixon there was evidence that the guy had a brain. I don't like what he did with it for the most part (didn't hate Model Cities, didn't hate reopening relations with China), but it was there and functioning. Plus, Nixon spared us giggles.

Everything about McCain screams out malfunction.

McCain is awkward and disturbing. What pisses me off is that you fools think it is so easy for Mysterious Obama to beat him. McCain has the base, he has experience, he has a story to tell, he will likely win. Obama has nothing except a bunch of disgruntled outcasts and newbies. The Independents will once again decide this and by election time they will go with the crotchety old man they know instead of the elitist and arrogant one they don't know.

Clinton in 2012.

I never thought Obama winning would be easy. Not once, not for one minute.

Hell, it was difficult beating Clinton in the primary.

No one in the audience understood the "official seal" joke.

McCain is making a common mistake. Assuming everyone follows the minute by minute cable coverage.

They don't.

Yes, the finger quotes, the finger quotes! Not so folksy that time, ol' McCain.

Yeah, finger quotes are soooooo '90s.

I say that a bit snarkily but seriously, they are kind of old. They have been replaced by things like LOL and WTF in popular culture. But I suppose since McCain is completely computer illiterate it makes sense that he is still on the finger quotes track. Next thing you know he will be having his audience doing the wave and dancing to the Macarena.

At least he knows what Crocs are I guess and even those are kind of last summer. (although I still wear the ones that I got 4 years ago - they are very practical and comfortable).

Creepy. Just Creepy.

The problem is that too many people will only vote party lines. My brother in law is a die-hard republican. He thinks Bush is crook and McCain is senile but will vote for McCain -- because he is the Republican.

I would agree that we can not overlook him but it would appear as if the MSM really could care less about actually reporting the facts that creating a "he said, she said" atmosphere. The seem reluctant with instances such as the new "faux-Iraq flip-flop" to talk about the nuances of a candidates positions. I get really tired of hearing friends down here in Texas, who have mostly good intentions, who repeat the MSM's memes such as 'John McCain is a passionate warrior who hates war', 'Obama never talks specifics', 'Hillary is really annoying'. 'that our safety and security can only be handled by Republicans' etc. I had a two hour conversation the other day with a friend trying to explain all the disasters that have occurred over the last 8 years of Republican rule and that McCain is really not initiating any differences in policy from GWB other than that he seems poised to handle the environment perhaps a little bit more pro-actively (as in he will let corporate culture decide what standards are in the industries best interest). How can you place your future in the hands of people who are backing more of the same?

I am befuddled, if only each candidate received fair treatment? I guess fair is too close to utopia and we know how likely that is?

Mccain is in a bubble imho and reminds me of someone else...

Colorado news coverage of this town hall was stepped-on big-time by Obama's Denver stadium announcement today.

Excellent! Now, that's the kind of media savvy I'd like to see more of coming from the Obama camp.

In other news Viagra is confident John Mccain can "raise" their "flagging" sales

Post of Mine from July 5, Before Today's "Lost in the Wild" Performace:


Here we are barely into the general election campaign and one of the candidates has already imploded.

On a personal, human, level, it's kind of sad, disquieting actually, to watch a man wither away in the most public of venues possible: the glare of full-bore media coverage in a presidential election.

While Obama has had some stumbles himself over the last fortnight or so, they have generally been policy focused, not personal. He's still composed, still intelligent, still in command. Not so, John McCain.

He's no longer the shoot-from-the-hip, swaggering ex-Navy pilot; he's a guy who can't deliver a pre-written speech without stumbling over his words; he's a guy who makes off-the-cuff remarks that tend to indicate he's not quite aware of who's who or what's what in the game he's playing. He comes across on that all important medium of television as a cross between Capt. Queeg and the stoic Capt. of the Titanic. Either way, it's obvious his ship is taking on water.

He's now on his THIRD campaign management team; Barack remains with his original crew virtually intact and adds to it with stars from HRC's professional army, while McCain is forced almost back to square one.

In sports, there are those guys that are unquestioned Superstars in the Minor leagues or College who, when they make it to the Big Leagues, fold like a house of cards.

It would seem that the Republicans are stuck with running one of the all time great Minor Leaguers in the biggest league of them all: the contest for the Presidency of the United States.

One question for those more acquainted with the Rules: Can the Repubs nominate anyone other than McCain at their convention, or are they completely locked in to him?

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Yes, but who else with a shot at the presidency would want to be the sacraficial lamb this year. I don't see anyone stepping in that is any good. The only one would be mitt the flip, but he sucks as well and he is so blinded by his own ego that he wouldn't see a problem running this year. I could see a scenario where mcbush bails for health reasons and mitt the flip runs and gets crushed.

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one thing that sticks in my craw about the undending, and uncritical praise for McCain's war record, is that no one, no one, has made the obvious point that going into the military for McCain was the EASY way.

i mean he was no brain, nor a motivated student. what else was he going to do?

this was the closest thing to going into the family business as you can get. his father and grandfather were admirals in the navy. his dad was still an admiral. what school did mccain go to? the naval academy.

c'mon...

nary a mention.

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I think that he may be ill. He just doesn't look right and he sure doesn't sound right. Something is very strange about him. He is totally different from 2000 and even totally different from last year. Something isn't right about him.

There is something very wrong with this man. But, that doesn't mean he couldn't win this thing. Remember Bush...

Well, except that the "dispassionate observers" who answer general polls don't seem to agree. For example, this is a "pulse survey" that is run periodically by BigResearch:

COLUMBUS, OH – 7/8/2008 – In a political arena where it’s normal for politicians to flip-flop on the issues and make campaign promises only to get votes, it’s interesting to see how the two candidates for the top office measure up in terms of their sincerity. According to the June American Pulse Survey of 4,082 respondents, half of Americans (50.6%) say John McCain is somewhat/very sincere in his campaign promises, compared to 42.5% who say the same about Barack Obama. McCain also fares better when it comes to credibility in his pledges among Independents who may hold the key in a close race this November.

Somewhat/Very Sincere in Campaign Promises

All Adults
McCain 50.6%
Obama 42.5%

Independents
McCain 50.4%
Obama 44.1%

Source: American Pulse, Jun 08

(For complete complimentary findings, click here: http://americanpulse.bigresearch.com.)

Why is this true? I don't know - but maybe people who are passionate about Obama have a hard time being dispassionate about McCain, and may thereby underestimate the threat he represents.

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