Critic Or Cheerleader: The Definitive McCain Iraq Timeline
Here it is: We've created a comprehensive time-line of John McCain's statements on Iraq, from the inception of the conflict to the present.
You can view it right here.
Our time-line casts some doubt on a key McCain campaign claim: That he's been a broad critic of Bush's war policies for many years now.
It also finds multiple inconsistencies in his public statements on the war.
The claim that McCain has been a critic of Bush's war policies in general is central to his candidacy. In July, he said: "I think you know that I opposed the failed strategy of the Bush administration."
Our timeline does support some of McCain's argument. It's true that as early as August of 2003, after he'd visited Iraq, he started saying that there weren't enough American troops in Iraq. At the time, this was consensus opinion among Democratic members of Congress and foreign policy hands. When McCain claims credit for having called for more troops early on, he's right.
Nonetheless, from the very beginning, all the way up to the present, McCain has repeatedly voiced strong support for Bush's approach in general, in ways that are at odds with his later claims of prescience.
For instance, In December of 2007, he deplored the fact that America had gone to war without "a realistic and comprehensive plan for success." But in June of 2003, he said that the "major conflict is over" and suggested that the mission had been accomplished. That same year he predicted that we'd be "greeted as liberators."
There are other inconsistencies. In October of 2006, he himself said that we needed 20,000 more troops. And when Bush subsequently announced that he would send 21,500 -- more than McCain's suggestion -- the Arizona Senator firmly supported it.
But then, in what may have been an effort to lay the groundwork for evading blame if Bush's surge failed, McCain changed his position, saying that he'd actually prefer that Bush send still more troops.
McCain has also been somewhat inconsistent on whether he supported Bush's policies and has exaggerated his opposition to them in a general sense. In April of 2008, for instance, he said that the war had been "mishandled terribly" by the administration and said he'd "fought against" Bush's overall approach.
In fact, while he did criticize the administration for not sending more troops, the timeline shows that he was repeatedly supportive of Bush's general approach over the years. Indeed, in April of 2008, he said: "No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have."
You can view our timeline -- which was compiled with the help of indefatigable TPM intern Matt Berman -- here.
The check marks denote McCain statements in favor of Bush's policies. The X marks denote opposition. And the Pinocchio noses are not meant to denote outright lies, but exaggeration and fudging of the whole truth.
If we've missed any important ones, let us know and we'll add them. Enjoy.















Great job guys.
McCain is currently speaking before a GI Hall in Denver and ignoring anything that happened before the surge. He's basically accusing Obama of being a traitor who hates the military (that's not hyperbole):
http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/good-to-see-john-mccain-ignore-critics/
July 25, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
P.S. Just to reiterate, great job guys. I'm bookmarking this page. I hope the Obama camp does too.
July 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outstanding work, Greg.
Including the Pinnochio nose, and the helpful green checks and red Xes.
This highlights what a dreadful job traditional media has done on covering the McCain flip flops. He freaking contradicted himself between April and July of this year alone!
July 25, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez. Very nice work, Greg and TPM interns.
July 25, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I echo the previous sentiments, great work fellas - we have to mercilessly expose Senator "Foreign Policy"..
July 25, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent job
A campaign resource!
July 25, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jed Lewison of The Jed Report put together a video highlighting this very topic. It's pretty damning, seeing McCain's own words used against him over and over again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieHwOm4ljA
(It's over nine minutes long, so you might want to grab a snack before you sit down to watch it)
July 25, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beat me to it!
Devastating isn't it
July 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
a complementary video here ---->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieHwOm4ljA
July 25, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
comments was disabled temporarily. apologies.
and many thanks, all.
July 25, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent work. It's this sort of thing that I'll miss most about Russert's work on Meet The Press:
"But senator, in january 2004 on fox news you said the exact opposite of what you're saying now. hold on, here's the video..."
July 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only disagreement seems to be with the number of troops in theater in August. Nothing about a disagreement in strategy.
And great work!
July 25, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
While watching the CNN interview, I was thinking that someone should be making a comparison like this (I should have known that TPM would be in the ball). Now that I see this, I agree with you, PH. Hon. Sen. McCain has a boolean tactical mind: If things are going well (or in the absence of anyone calling on me for corroboration, I can make this claim) we have succeeded; else, we need more soldiers on the ground.
In order to fully explore his "I have the judgement..." mantra, we need to see what Senator McCain was saying in the run-up to the war; and a bill of particulars of what he thought were "mistakes" other than insufficient troop levels. How did he seem to be unaware that we had essentially no plan to occupy the country for years after we invaded? The few plans that were made (by State, for example) were ignored. What did he say at the time, or since, about the disaster that was L. Paul "Jerry" Bremer's proconsulship? How about the idea that almost every experienced officer, after making statements to the effect that we would be leaving soon after Baghdad fell, up and retired, leaving Gen. Sanchez, in an unprecedented position for his experience and rank, holding the bag? How about his successors? Make the Senator say something besides, "I wanted more troops."
Senator McCain had the same prescription in Bosnia. He thinks that we could have salvaged Viet Nam with more troops. It's his entire quiver, as far as tactics. Don't even get me started on his strategic thinking.
July 25, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow did you guys see the video of Mccain blowing off a WSJ reporter...not good for ole man yellin at cloud
July 25, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love the parts where he says "we have to stay the course" and then claims he has always been some kind of critic claiming we needed more troops.
What exactly does he think "stay the course" means?
The fact that the MSM isn't hanging the "stay the course" video clips around his neck like an albatross just shows how gutless/co-opted the MSM really is.
GOP-meme cancer has infected the very shoddy, corrupt American press corp, to the "core" (pun intented). (Witness how they've internalized all that Bush-style Europe-bashing in covering Obama in Europe. I'm expecting CNN to call it "Old Europe" at any moment now)
July 25, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
"What exactly does he think "stay the course" means?" Not quit and run away just because the going gets tough.
July 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, so how about "beat your head against a brick wall until it's a bloody pulp?"
July 25, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I enjoyed it too...could you add a white flag by each comment to represent Obama's views?...(sorry, I couldn't help it).
July 25, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just curious -- was Reagan waving the white flag when he pulled troops out of Lebanon?
July 25, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep...and that was one of the few times that I felt let down by him during his administration...
July 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I appreciate your candor.
And yet McCain claims to have been "a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution." Wonder how he feels about the Lebanon cutting and running. Don't recall him mentioning it during that GOP primary debate held at the Reagan Library.
July 25, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It kind of ticks me off when he reaches back to Reagan...He was talking about switching parties 4 years ago...running with Kerry for God's sake...Like I've said many times in here, McCain was my third choice out of the three contenders...but that said I'd take him over Obama any day.
July 25, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You could still vote for Barr or better yet, have a sick day.
Or, on election day you could do what you normally do during your work day, and post here. Frequently.
But you are good at firing up the people who, you know, don't have their heads up their asses like you do. So thanks for that.
July 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now I get it.
Reagan was, IMO, the worst president of the 20th century.
July 25, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking Harding but he didn't finish his first term before dying in office.
July 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only if we change McCain's to a pile of dead bodies....
July 25, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am wondering why there is no cover on the following
- Press conference in Paris: Obama's best performance to date, he is getting better by the day
- No cover on the latest polls: Rasmussen +5 gallup +6, new mexico +5
What is happening today?
July 25, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Rasmussen +5 gallup +6, new mexico +5" Cuz those are the same numbers from yesterday...last week...last month...
July 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
To add a bit of levity to the thread,,,,,,,, in this university town, a group of some sort is selling bumper stickers, "GOT SURGE ?",,,,, in the left hand corner is a pic of McCain with a dollop of raw egg running down his forehead.
July 25, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
btw, great post and great job from Greg and the gang
July 25, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Josh Marshall- you need to give Greg Sargent a raise.
That was a lot of work, Greg- and it's awesome!
Thanks
July 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
In your post you say "In December of 2006, he himself said that we needed 20,000 more troops to have success."
But the quote from 12/7/06, Chicago Tribune:
"We must have more troops over there, maybe 20,000 more Marines, and 80,000 Army..."
So he said he wanted 100,000 more troops. Just thought you might want to correct that.
July 25, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
that chi trib quote was wrong. see this;
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/08/mccain-iraq/
we've removed the quote and replaced it with an accurate one from october of that year where he did call for 20K
thx
July 25, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
This comprehensive timeline does seem to generally back up McSame's assertion that he's always wanted more troops. But he doesn't seem to have ever criticized the way the war had been run otherwise. Just wants more troops. More troops. More troops.
July 25, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It does that, but that's the only thing he has been at all consistent about.
Otherwise, he's as all over the place as Commander Coocoo Bananas.
July 25, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
100 years! ya hear me ya little bastards?! 100 years!
July 25, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone take note that when Bush decided to send more troops, and McCain was confronted with the fact he had called for far more than Bush was sending, he, in effect says, "yeah, but it turns out I was asking for more troops than we have." See 2/4/07 answer to Stepenfetchalot of ABC.
July 25, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree with you fname. While I certainly appreciate all the effort put into this, and maybe I’m missing the point, but I don’t see this is of much value because it simply reinforces McCain’s claim to not only supporting the surge but suggests he may have supported "a" surge before it was ever "The" Surge - out-surged the surge - and that he did so in contradiction to the administration. The real issue is not whether he may or may not have contradicted Bush's ridiculous "approach" with much, much more of the same ridiculousness (additional forces as early as 2003 would have certainly resulted in more American casualties.) Besides, out-surging the surge is a trifle dissension for one bearing the moniker of a political maverick. Better we focus on the fact that he full-heartedly supported Bush's war and his preemptive, unilateral foreign policy and has adapted it for himself in this campaign (besides the footage is so much more juicy!) The surge is relevant certainly in that it put more American lives at risk, but can anyone say a strategic, military victory in Iraq was ever in doubt? Six to seven years of mismanagement, while certainly an indictment of the administrations ineptitude, is nothing compared to the flagrant breech of public trust, the sacrifice of American lives and the alienation of the international community for a mission that served no benefit what-so-ever to the American public or the World. And John McCain is more than happy to repeat it all again. Should Iraqis follow through and create a better life for themselves (and we all hope that they will) than they will undoubtedly be grateful for our sacrifice, as would those in Burma or Zimbabwe or any place we wouldn’t, and won’t, otherwise presume to go. I want to stress that they may have better lives and they may be grateful because that is a future we don’t control and as far as that has not been our strategic mission, neither is it our victory to claim. It will belong to the Iraqis.
July 25, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent! Thank you, bookmarked for future usage!
July 25, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great stuff. Now is the time to send this to anyone who is considering voting for McCain. E-mail, print, copies, whatever. This essential information must be known. The stakes are too high to let this pass.
After eight years of Bush, change is a risk worth taking.
July 25, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...why was there a banner that said mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier?"
Good question Mr. McCain, good question.
July 25, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
So "Maverick" would know which carrier was the one where he was going to to the rollover on his flyby. Didn't you see the damn movie?
July 25, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where are the Obama surrogates today, they need to go after the McBushSame bashing...
He did extremely well, so now it is time to the Obama surrogates to go after the media spin...
So because the Obama's trip went so well, the new media spin is, is it going to backlash?
So because no gaffe from Senator Obama, it is now, well how the American people are reacting?
Any takers?
July 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I missing something here or what?
But it looks like 8/24/03, NBC, "Meet the Press" he called for more troops.
July 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He sure did. Not listening to the advice of the Commander on the ground, Gen. Franks. Instead getting advice from sommy Tommy Sgt. Major.
July 25, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, Big Tim would never do that to a Republican. He let Cheney lie right to his face.
July 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Jersey Tomato, is there a highway named after you in Orchard Park, N.Y.? Thought not.
July 25, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to disagree.
McCain has always supported the war and always wanted more troops. I think he couldn't be too critical of Bush if he wanted the nomination, but he was consistenly critical on troop levels.
What I'd really like to see are commnets on his longterm vision for Iraq- a bastion of American interests, a pro-American goverment, regime change, etc.
July 25, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? You'd like to see those?
Personally, I couldn't care less what his "long term vision is." At his age, long term vision is day by day.
July 25, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone give that Matt Berman kid a paying job.
July 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nicely done guys, and clearly demonstrates a remarkably high level of schizophrenia, befitting of none other than a Republican candidate for office.
July 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPM should ask us for our e-mail addresses, and send us these kinds of PERFECT and CLEAR analyses to our inboxes. We can then make 'em viral by forwarding to our friends. This is one of the best things I've seen you guys put together. Very clear visuals and a simple list that is hard to ignore. BRILLIANT.
July 25, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wade, No reason you can't cut and paste and forward until your heart's content! make it viral! make it deadly!
July 25, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Atreideshawk: I did and will continue to forward this kinda stuff. I'm just saying TPM could consciously make more use of its audience. Just a thought since TPM is the only thing that cuts through the bull and delivers facts. Just thinking of ways to help get the message out there that McCain is looney toons. :)
July 25, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like to add my thanks to the others, Greg.
I thought the following quote was kind of significant, since according to McCain's recent "clarification," the Surge started with the Anbar Awakening several months earlier...
July 25, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
From 4/14/04:
"Secretary Rumsfeld said, 'Well, our commanders on the ground haven't asked for them.' It's not up to the commanders on the ground. It's up to the leadership of the country to make these decisions. That's why we elect them and have civilian supremacy."
So, why is Senator Obama wrong when he says he will give the military a new mission - to start a responsible withdrawal - despite what General Petraeus says? Seems to me like Bush and McCain have passed the buck and essentially handed over US foreign policy to the "commanders on the ground."
July 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many of those commanders were afraid of crossing Don Rumsfeld? He didn't tolerate any dissent. They weren't ready to "spend more time with their families", the Penatgon equivalent to "sleeping with the fishes".
July 25, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The point I was trying to emphasize was that the President has the final authority, and should use her/his judgment, rather than relying solely on the commanders on the ground.
July 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
There were reports that SecDef Rumsfeld, after getting their private assessment that more resources were needed, would go out in front of the cameras and put them on the spot by asking them whether they had all they needed. Of course, they were reluctant to so publicly contradict their (so-called) superior. Apart from giving a false impression of what commanders thought, I would think that morale took a hit as well.
July 25, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops - emphasis in the 4/14/04 quote was mine. And thanks, Greg/Matt, for putting this together.
July 25, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg is going to get a bid head with all the compliments. He is continually referred to on Huffington Post too. So, way to go!
July 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand how you decide X's and checks for 04, 05, and 06. "We need more troops" gets an X and "Stay the course" gets a check.
In this time period he seems to consistently advocate the idea of "We need to stay (the course) in Iraq and clean up the mess we've created (which requires more troops)." I guess I just don't see the self-contradiction in this series of statements that others may see.
That being said, when McCain claims that he invented the surge which led to the Anbar Awakening which led to political reconciliation, by all means, give him a Pinnochio nose.
July 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
He lost me on "we will be greeted as liberators."
July 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well done, brother.
July 25, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Off topic....but why does Halperin include with every pro-McCain story, "what mccain needs to win "analysis""? He did this story a week ago, and he's still pushing it?
July 25, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the post Greg, but help me out here if you would. Can you or someone else clarify why McCain would be considered to be lying (as implied by his resemblance to Pinocchio) in the 1/14/07 reference about pushing for more troops for more than two years? The timeline shows McCain pushing for more troops than provided as early as 11/5/03. What am I missing?
July 25, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or how would that be considered exaggerating or fudging the truth (if not outright lying about it)?
July 25, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even when Obama was 30 points behind Hillary, I was in full support of him---and my support level is still there.
But I am missing something here. Obama's claim that the surge was not the only factor which has led to the talk of a timeline for the US getting out by Maliki, is complicated to assert.
This timeline gives a simplistic (and misleading) narrative to John McCain: "I always said we needed more troops, they sent more troops, things are better, I was right." Not as easy to sell as I will cut your taxes and root out waste to balance the budget---but.....I do not see the reason for rejoicing.
Sorry.
July 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
So to summarize:
The only issue where John McCain has been critical of the administration on the Iraq war was troop levels. He has never criticized de-Bathification, corruption and inefficiency in the reconstruction process or the lies that were used to help sell the war.
The first time he called for more troops was August 2003. This is 5 months after the invasion, after the looting of Iraq's National Museum and Iraq's nuclear facilities, and after the insurgency was well underway.
The first time his criticism was directed and Bush and the administration, as opposed to Donald Rumsfeld, was May 2006.
Earlier, when Rumsfeld had defended not sending more troops by saying the commanders hadn't asked for them, McCain stated "It's not up to the commanders on the ground. It's up to the leadership of the country to make these decisions." However, at several points in the narrative, he claimed the support of officers he had spoken to in Iraq to back his call for more troops.
More recently he has used the statements of current commanders to back up claims that Barrack Obama's troop withdrawal proposals are "dangerous".
July 25, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
McBush has now flip flopped and agreed with Obama's position to have a timetable to end the war. Obama was right about not starting the war in the first place and McBush was wrong on the war. Obama was right that more troops should be sent to Afghanistan and McBush agreed. Obama is right to bring the troops home with a time table and now McBush agrees.
From The New York Times
"McCain Gives Qualified Endorsement to Iraq Timetable
(Game, Set, Match McBush's Candidacy is OVER)
By MICHAEL COOPER
Published: July 26, 2008
First the Iraqi government gave Senator Barack Obama a boost by seeming to embrace his proposal for a 16-month timetable for withdrawing American troops from Iraq. Now could Senator John McCain, who built his candidacy in large part on his opposition to such a schedule, possibly be following suit?
I think it’s a pretty good timetable,” Mr. McCain said Friday in an interview on “The Situation Room” on CNN, before adding that it should be based “on the conditions on the ground.”
For months Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has strongly opposed setting a timetable for withdrawal and has criticized Mr. Obama, his Democratic rival, for suggesting one. But the debate has shifted in recent days as Iraqi officials, including Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, moved closer to Mr. Obama’s position.
In the CNN interview, Mr. McCain first seemed to play down any possibility that Mr. Maliki would actually ask the United States to withdraw in the next 16 months to two years. “He won’t,” Mr. McCain said, explaining that he knew Mr. Maliki well.
Then, asked why he thought Mr. Maliki had called 16 months a potentially suitable timetable, Mr. McCain gave his enigmatic answer.
“He said it’s a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground,” Mr. McCain said. “I think it’s a pretty good timetable, as we should — or horizons for withdrawal. But they have to be based on conditions on the ground. This success is very fragile. It’s incredibly impressive, but very fragile. So we know, those of us who have been involved in it for many years, know that if we reverse this, by setting a date for withdrawal, all of the hard-won victory can be reversed.”
Democrats exulted, sending transcripts of the statement to reporters to suggest that Mr. McCain was coming around to Mr. Obama’s way of thinking. The McCain campaign did not explain the remark, but said Mr. McCain’s position continued to be that he wanted the troops to withdraw based on conditions on the ground."
July 26, 2008 2:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have been observing Obama all week and I can honestly invision Obama as President. I have always hoped that Obama would be president but I now see Obama as a president.
Obama has carried himself with class this whole week. McCain, on the other hand, over the week looked grumpier and less presidential.
McCain needs to drop his "grumpy old man" act and focus on positive policies.
Hopefully Obama will from now until election day focus on the ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY since in my eyes Obama has passed the "commander-in-chief" threshold.
July 26, 2008 7:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent job!
July 26, 2008 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course it has to be based ON CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND.
July 26, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
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July 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another reason that McCain must be stopped.
He gives circumlocution a bad name.
July 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a soldier how can anyone say the Surge worked when we still have to stay here 16 more months or longer, and then go to the REAL WAR!
THE SURGE, WAS WRONG BECAUSE LIKE A LIE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP TELLING OR DOING SOMETHING TO COVER IT UP!
WRONG VOTE, WRONG WAR, WRONG DEAD PEOPLE, WRONG DEAD SOLDIERS, WRONG DESTRUCTION OF A COUNTRY..
AND NOW WE HAVE TO START ALL OVER...THIS IS A DISGRACE..PERIOD!
July 26, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't think I could have as much disdain for anyone else as I do for Bush and Cheney, but I feel the same way about McCain. He is a dispicable war monger and has no honor whatsoever.
July 27, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink