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McCain Lampoons Obama: "Audacity Of Hopelessness"

John McCain has unveiled a new slogan against Barack Obama: That Obama's attitudes on Iraq represent "the audacity of hopelessness"!

In his speech today at the American GI Forum convention in Colorado, McCain excoriated Obama for opposing the surge, saying that the surge policies "amounted to a real-time test for a future commander-in-chief."

"Fortunately, Senator Obama failed, not our military," McCain later added. "We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right."

Full prepared speech after the jump.

Thank you for that kind introduction and warm welcome. I want to begin by talking about an issue in this campaign that I know concerns you as it concerns all Americans: the war in Iraq. Thankfully, the news from Iraq today is much more encouraging than I could have reported to you last year.

Eighteen months ago, America faced a crisis as profound as any in our history. Iraq was in flames, torn apart by violence that was escaping our control. Al Qaeda was succeeding in what Osama bin Laden called the central front in their war against us. The mullahs in Iran waited for America's humiliation in Iraq, and the resulting increase in their influence. Thousands of Iraqis died violently every month. American casualties were mounting. We were on the brink of a disastrous defeat just a little more than five years after the attacks of September 11, and America faced a profound choice. Would we accept defeat and leave Iraq and our strategic position in the Middle East in ruins, risking a wider war in the near future? Or would we summon our resolve, deploy additional forces, and change our failed strategy? Senator Obama and I also faced a decision, which amounted to a real-time test for a future commander-in-chief. America passed that test. I believe my judgment passed that test. And I believe Senator Obama's failed.

We both knew the politically safe choice was to support some form of retreat. All the polls said the "surge" was unpopular. Many pundits, experts and policymakers opposed it and advocated withdrawing our troops and accepting the consequences. I chose to support the new counterinsurgency strategy backed by additional troops -- which I had advocated since 2003, after my first trip to Iraq. Many observers said my position would end my hopes of becoming president. I said I would rather lose a campaign than see America lose a war. My choice was not smart politics. It didn't test well in focus groups. It ignored all the polls. It also didn't matter. The country I love had one final chance to succeed in Iraq. The new strategy was it. So I supported it. Today, the effects of the new strategy are obvious. The surge has succeeded, and we are, at long last, finally winning this war.

Senator Obama made a different choice. He not only opposed the new strategy, but actually tried to prevent us from implementing it. He didn't just advocate defeat, he tried to legislate it. When his efforts failed, he continued to predict the failure of our troops. As our soldiers and Marines prepared to move into Baghdad neighborhoods and Anbari villages, Senator Obama predicted that their efforts would make the sectarian violence in Iraq worse, not better.

And as our troops took the fight to the enemy, Senator Obama tried to cut off funding for them. He was one of only 14 senators to vote against the emergency funding in May 2007 that supported our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. He would choose to lose in Iraq in hopes of winning in Afghanistan. But had his position been adopted, we would have lost both wars.

Three weeks after Senator Obama voted to deny funding for our troops in the field, General Ray Odierno launched the first major combat operations of the surge. Senator Obama declared defeat one month later: "My assessment is that the surge has not worked and we will not see a different report eight weeks from now." His assessment was popular at the time. But it couldn't have been more wrong.

By November 2007, the success of the surge was becoming apparent. Attacks on Coalition forces had dropped almost 60 percent from pre-surge levels. American casualties had fallen by more than half. Iraqi civilian deaths had fallen by more than two-thirds. But Senator Obama ignored the new and encouraging reality. "Not only have we not seen improvements," he said, "but we're actually worsening, potentially, a situation there."

If Senator Obama had prevailed, American forces would have had to retreat under fire. The Iraqi Army would have collapsed. Civilian casualties would have increased dramatically. Al Qaeda would have killed the Sunni sheikhs who had begun to cooperate with us, and the "Sunni Awakening" would have been strangled at birth. Al Qaeda fighters would have safe havens, from where they could train Iraqis and foreigners, and turn Iraq into a base for launching attacks on Americans elsewhere. Civil war, genocide and wider conflict would have been likely.

Above all, America would have been humiliated and weakened. Our military, strained by years of sacrifice, would have suffered a demoralizing defeat. Our enemies around the globe would have been emboldened. Terrorists would have seen our defeat as evidence America lacked the resolve to defeat them. As Iraq descended into chaos, other countries in the Middle East would have come to the aid of their favored factions, and the entire region might have erupted in war. Every American diplomat, American military commander, and American leader would have been forced to speak and act from a position of weakness.

Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth. From the early days of this war, I feared the administration was pursuing a mistaken strategy, and I said so. I went to Iraq many times, and heard all the phony explanations about how we were winning. I knew we were failing, and I told that to an administration that did not want to hear it. I pushed for the strategy that is now succeeding before most people even admitted that there was a problem.

Fortunately, Senator Obama failed, not our military. We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right. Violence in Iraq fell to such low levels for such a long time that Senator Obama, detecting the success he never believed possible, falsely claimed that he had always predicted it. There have been almost no sectarian killings in Baghdad for more than 13 weeks. American casualties are at the lowest levels recorded in this war. The Iraqi Army is stronger and fighting harder. The Iraqi Government has met most of the benchmarks for political progress we demanded of them, and the nation's largest Sunni party recently rejoined the government. In Iraq, we are no longer on the doorstep of defeat, but on the road to victory.

Senator Obama said this week that even knowing what he knows today that he still would have opposed the surge. In retrospect, given the opportunity to choose between failure and success, he chooses failure. I cannot conceive of a Commander in Chief making that choice.

A new hope is rising in Iraq today. Across the country, Iraqis are preparing for upcoming provincial elections. And security has improved enough to permit the Iraqi government to begin seriously providing services and opportunities to the Iraqi people. This progress is encouraging but reversible if we heed those who have always counseled defeat when they now argue to risk our fragile gains and withdraw from Iraq according to a politically expedient timetable rather than the advice from the commanders who so brilliantly led this stunning turnaround in our situation in Iraq.

I said that the surge has succeeded, and it has. That is why the additional surge brigades are almost all home. I said we can win, and we will. I'm confident we will be able to reduce our forces in Iraq next year, and our forces will be out of regular combat operations and dramatically reduced in number during the term of the next President. We have fought the worst battles, survived the toughest threats, and the hardest part of this war is behind us. But it is not over yet. And we have come too far, sacrificed too much, to risk everything we have gained and all we could yet gain because the politics of the hour make defeat the more convenient position.

Because of the choice we made and all the surge has accomplished, the time will soon come when our troops can come home. But we face another choice today. We can withdraw when we have secured the peace and the gains we have sacrificed so much to achieve are safe. Or we can follow Senator Obama's unconditional withdrawal and risk losing the peace even if that results in spreading violence and a third Iraq war. Senator Obama has suggested he would consider sending troops back if that happened. When I bring them home in victory and with honor, they are staying home.

Senator Obama might dismiss defeat in Iraq as the current President's problem. But presidents don't lose wars. Nations do. And presidents don't fight wars. You do, the men and women of the greatest fighting force in the history of the world. The sacrifices you've made deserve to be memorialized in something more lasting than bronze or in the fleeting effect of a politician's speeches. Your valor and devotion have earned your country's abiding concern for your welfare. When our government forgets our debts to you, it is a stain upon America's honor. The Walter Reed scandal recalled not just the government but the people who elect it, to our responsibilities to those who risk life and limb to meet their responsibilities to us.

Those who have borne the burden of war for our sake must be treated fairly and expeditiously as they seek compensation for disability or illness. We owe them compassion, knowledge and hands-on care in their transition to civilian life. We owe them training, rehabilitation and education. We owe their families, parents and caregivers our concern and support. They should never be deprived of quality medical care and mental health care coverage for illness or injury incurred as a result of their service to our country.

As President, I will ensure that those who serve today and who have served in the past have access to the highest quality health, mental health and rehabilitative care in the world. The disgrace of Walter Reed will not be forgotten. Nor will we accept a situation in which veterans are denied access to care due to great travel distances, backlogs of appointments, and years of pending disability evaluation and claims. In addition to strengthening the VA, we should give veterans the option to use a simple plastic card to receive timely and accessible care at a convenient location through a provider of their choosing. I will not stand for requiring veterans to make an appointment to stand in line to make an appointment to stand in line for substandard care of the injuries you have suffered to keep our country safe. Whatever our commitments to veterans cost, we will keep them, as you have kept every commitment to us. The honor o f a great nation is at stake.

Let me close by expressing my gratitude for the contributions Hispanic-Americans have made to the security of the country I have served all my adult life. I represent Arizona where Spanish was spoken before English was, and where the character and prosperity of our state owes much to the Arizonans of Hispanic descent who live there. And I know this country, which I love more than almost anything, would be poorer were we deprived of the patriotism, industry and decency of those millions of Americans whose families came here from Mexico, Central and South America.

When you take the solemn stroll along that wall of black granite on the national Mall, it is hard not to notice the many names such as Rodriguez, Hernandez, and Lopez that so sadly adorn it. When you visit Iraq and Afghanistan you meet some of the thousands of Hispanic-Americans who serve there, and many of those who risk their lives to protect the rest of us do not yet possess the rights and privileges of full citizenship in the country they love so well. To love your country, as I discovered in Vietnam, is to love your countrymen. Those men and women are my brothers and sisters, my fellow Americans, an association that means more to me than any other. As a private citizen or as President, I will never, never do anything to dishonor our obligations to them and their families.

No story better exemplifies the sacrifices Hispanic Americans have made for our country than the story of Roy Benavidez. I have told it before, and this won't be the last time I tell it. All Americans need to hear it.

Roy Benavidez was the son of a Texas sharecropper, a seventh grade dropout who suffered the humiliation of being constantly taunted as a "dumb Mexican." He grew up to become a master sergeant in the Green Berets, and served in Vietnam. He was a member of that rare class of warriors whose service was so honorable and brave they are privileged to wear the Medal of Honor. He was decorated by Ronald Reagan, who said that if the story of his heroism were a movie "you would not believe it."

On May 2, 1968, in an outpost near the Cambodian border, Sergeant Benavidez listened on his radio as the voice of a terrified American, part of a 12 man patrol surrounded by a North Vietnamese battalion, pleaded to be rescued. Armed with only a knife, Roy jumped into a helicopter and took off with a three-man crew to rescue his trapped comrades.

When they arrived at the battle, the enemy was too numerous for the helicopter to evacuate the surrounded soldiers. It had to land seventy-five yards away from their position. After making the sign of the cross, Sergeant Benavidez jumped out of the helicopter as it hovered ten feet above the ground, and ran toward his comrades carrying his knife and a medic bag.

He was shot almost immediately, but he got up and kept moving. A grenade knocked him down again, shrapnel tearing into his face. He got up and kept moving. Reaching the Americans' position, he found four men dead, and all the others badly wounded. He armed himself with an enemy rifle, and began to treat the wounded, distribute ammunition and call in air strikes. He was shot again. He then ordered the helicopter to come in closer as he dragged the dead and wounded aboard. After he got all the wounded aboard, he ran back to retrieve classified documents from the body of a fallen soldier. He was shot in the stomach, and grenade fragments cut into his back. He got up and kept moving, and made it back to the helicopter.

The pilot was shot and the helicopter crashed. Roy pulled the wounded from the wreckage and radioed for air strikes and another helicopter. He kept fighting until air support arrived. He was shot several more times before a second helicopter landed. As he was carrying a wounded man toward it, a North Vietnamese soldier clubbed him with his rifle and stabbed him with a bayonet. Sergeant Benavidez fought him hand to hand, to death. After rescuing three more soldiers, he was finally flown with them to safety.

Bleeding profusely, and completely immobile, a doctor thought him to be dead. Roy was placed in a body bag, before anyone discovered he was still alive. He spent a year in hospitals recovering from seven serious gunshot wounds, twenty-eight shrapnel wounds, and bayonet wounds in both arms.

It took thirteen years for Roy Benavidez to receive his Medal of Honor. But it didn't seem to matter to him. He stayed in the Army. The war, and his forgotten heroism never embittered him. He spent his retirement counseling troubled kids, encouraging them to stay in school and off drugs.

"I'm proud to be an American," Roy Benavidez said as he lay dying in a San Antonio hospital ten years ago. May God bless his soul. And may Americans, all Americans, be very proud that Roy Benavidez was one of us. I wouldn't want to live in a country that didn't recognize how much we needed such a good man.

I prefer to live in a bigger place. I prefer to live in a growing America, as proud of its variety as it is of the ideals that unite us. I prefer to live in a hopeful country. I prefer to live in Roy Benavidez' America. Thank you very much.


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And it's only July folks! Just wait and see what October brings.

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Didn't the badly flawed original decision to go to war "amount[] to a real-time test for a future commander-in-chief"?

Isn't it too easy to just turn all of these accusations back on McCain for supporting the war and saying all kinds of ridiculous things in the first place?

If he really wants to relitigate the past, I don't see how he wins. He can't just pick and choose only the post-surge (or Anbar Awakening) past. He has to take the whole kit and caboodle.

Isn't it too easy to just turn all of these accusations back on McCain for supporting the war and saying all kinds of ridiculous things in the first place?

Well, I think that's almost the point. They're attacking Obama on his strengths. It's like George W. Bush attacking John Kerry for having shown cowardice in his military service; or various representatives of entrenched, exclusionary political dynasties attacking for being "elitist" the kid who clawed his way up from nowhere into being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, then a self-made U.S. Senator...

The point is to take something that is a powerful argument for Obama (Obama showed solid judgment in opposing the Iraq war and McCain failed at judgment in supporting it and now wanting to continue it) and turn around and just throw it at Obama (McCain showed solid judgment in supporting the Iraq war and Obama failed at judgment in opposing it and now wanting to end it). Even if this makes no sense, or can't work, the hope is probably that it will muddy the waters or at least distract from or neutralize Obama's ability to use the argument against McCain. Whether or not this works is probably a matter of (1) whether the Obama campaign lets him get away with it and (2) whether the American public lets him get away with it...

I don't see the comparison with Kerry repeating itself.
Sure, Kerry served in Vietnam, and Bush hid away in the National Guard.
But Kerry also was against the war in Vietnam, and to the pro-war, pro-security people, that tended to be viewed as a betrayal of his service.
Thereafter, the fear-mongering about not being safe under Kerry took hold.
No matter how hard McSame tries to spin it, Obama was against the war from day one, and Gramps favored it.
That argument is crystal clear. That's why McBush (with the complicity of the corporate media) is trying to make support of the surge the defining issue vis-a-vis Iraq.

Yes, but in the case of McCain, two negatives do not make a positive.

Obama wrong on surge
McCain wrong on going to war.

This is arguing 2 negatives...no one wins.

Unless the press is biased and repeats one negative moreso than another...either way ...the least experienced candidate is hurt most, simply due to a track record of accomplishments.

Obama cannot afford to argue that McCain was wrong because that will only mean McCain argues he is wrong.

It is a losing argument.

The media however is at fault for not setting the record straight and telling the larger truth. Obama has to send out numerous surrogates and experts to tell the larger truth that the true error in judgement was going to war, not having a strategy to secure the peace from the beginning was the error.

The surge waa a tactic and is not a real error in judgment as the surge has not accomplished what the stated goal was...to bring the factions together politically...reducing casulties is not the goal of the sectarian chaos.

The goal was political...and it canNOT be achieved militarily.

The surge is a distraction.

McCain fails to define success because the media fails to ask, what makes the surge a success!!d

Success in Iraq is not measured by casualties as that was not the reason to go to war, nor was it the reason for continued war.

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I wish there was more MSM attention paid to what Chuck Hagel had to say when he returned from the trip: i.e., forget about who was for or against the surge last year, what we need to do is focus on what we do going forward.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1826377,00.html

You don't understand how silly you are using Chuck Hagel's point about surge. If this works, what about let's not talk about who supported the war or not to begin with, let's talk who can better manage the war as it is ongoing? Should we set a timetable or not?

McCain's argument is very powerful if it is well framed - yes, you might show good judgement by opposing the war to begin with. However, you showed bad judgement by opposing the war and proposing to get all troops out by now (had he had his way). You thought the American soilders cannot improve the situation in Iraq and you have been proven wrong - checkmate!!!

Sorry Aimey,
Your analysis is flawed. What you are telling us to believe is that after the folks drove the bus in the ditch, we should be glad they changed the flat tire so the buss should get traction...NO!

We do not want to ride on buses with folks who drive them into the ditch, no matter how good they are at changing flat tires!!

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Actually, I think most people have exactly this thought in mind. What are you going to do next?

Actually, the more salient news in the story was not that McCsin lampoons Obama, he paints Obama Anti-American and Traitor.

I knew McLame was going to steep low, but didn't know it would be this early in the campaign.

Rove 101. His disciples learned well.

We should try and dig up Rove's campaign he ran against McCain when running Bush's campaign back in 2000. Rove said that they should attack his patriotism and his "different-ness" and that seems to be exactly what they are doing.

And McCain was so pissed of at Bush and the GOP for allowing the Rovian attack against him he almost left the party. Of course now that Rove is on his side, all is fair I guess.

I was thinking the same thing and wondering if anyone else was noticing the direct correlation between mccain's campaign being taken over by rove disciples and it immediately going ridiculously over the top with nothing but negative spin, slander and innuendo. it seems the sith apprentice learned well from the sith lord...

Obama needs to come back Stateside so he can blast this clown and defend himself. It's getting out of hand that McCain can go completely unchallenged making all of these nasty claims. Maybe Obama should have named Biden his VP candidate before he left.

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Where is Biden? I'd love to see him and Hagel put the slap-down on McCain.

My only guess is the Obama camp is doing this by design - they've basically shut down almost all their surrogates while he's abroad.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

Totally agree. Biden is just the person to put this noise to rest....

The DNC is at fault for not standing up for the DNC...where are the party surrogates?

Sounds like PUMA is in control of the party...no one is covering Obama's flanks.

Although Debbie Wasserman Schultz did a great job this afternoon on MSNBC countering McCain's false claims that the 'surge is a success' she flat out said it was not a success as there has not been any political reconciliation...only casualties have declined but the sects are still in conflict.

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This speech is odious on a number of levels:

1) It basically accuses Obama of treason (again)

2) It sets up as two mutually exclusive options - Obama & the military, and casts Obama as the opponent of the latter.

3) When your opponent is coming up with his own phrases and you're left to mock his phrases - but not come up with any of your own - you've got problems.

4) Notice the number of times he talks about Obama. Does Obama EVER talk about McCain that much?

5) I watched him give it, he sounded pissed and looked it too.

Eric, I'd update with the Obama camp response. It's still a milquetoast response from Bill Burton, but it includes the word "angry," which may be by design (and the guy really looked angry):

http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/good-to-see-john-mccain-ignore-critics/

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"We rejected the audacity of hopelessness". WTF does that mean?

He's got a loser of a speechwriter, if you ask me.

And das2003? Obama does say stuff about McCain, but hasn't for a week. But I imagine references to McCain will pop right back in to his comments by Sunday.

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No, my point wasn't that he never talks about McCain, but never that much! Never to the degree to which McCain's entire speech was basically about Obama.

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Well, Juan had to come up with a shorter slogan. The previous "Obama would rawther lose a war to win a campaign, I'd rawther lose a campaign and win a..." was really stumbled and bumbled through. He veritably spluttered each time he tried to puzzle it out of his brain to his lips.

Was only a matter of time before the light switch went on and the brilliant minds in the McCain camp tried this one on.

Too bad it doesn't fit and just sounds like one of those silly 8th grade comebacks you think of well after the argument was over.

including such classics like: your momma wears combat boots!

Eric, Greg:

You all going to do a seperate post for the Gallup and Rasumussen daily tracking poll bumps? Given the hand-wringing over their tightening, a post on the widening again might be in good form, no?

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Yeah, that'll get 'em riled up, Grandpa.

That is my thought as well. Seriously, is this the best that McCain can do? This is almost embarrassing.

Obama is gaining nothing from his France or Britain stops, Berlin should have been the big finish. He's getting hammered by McCain and his campaign offers wimpy responses. This is exactly what Obama promised wouldn't happen. What happened to bringing the gun to the knife fight? He's acting/responding like John Kerry right now.

I think it's less about his responses. How do you respond to a criticism of your every movement? It's childish.

Actually Obama appears to be acting rather presidential and ignoring the old man yelling at the cloud. Good for him.

It's the same thing he did against Hillary.

They are playing catch up, let them keep trying. No point in stooping to their level.

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You know what, in most situations I would agree with Jonze.

But something about this week is different. McCain is on the desperate end of things and the press knows it.

Obama actually is coming off looking good (and two more days of travel isn't going to make a big difference).

Some attacks you don't respond to. When your opponent's attack consists of childish wordplay, you don't dignify it with a response.

Disagree totally.

Things you won't hear Obama say:
"The Ass-dassity of Surginess"

Ha! I think "surginess" is my new favorite word.

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"surginess"

O I likes it. I likes it a lot.

Isn't this the opening Obama needs to justify dropping the "honorable" crap he always says before he hits McCain in the mouth (verbally)? I know he won't, but I think this green light's treating him with scorn and derision at every possible turn.

that speech was pretty long. I can only imagine the suffering of listening to mccain read it must be. it should be saved and be available should we get bored with waterboarding.

Nailed it!

Senator Joseph McCarthy was a Republican. McCain is now using McCarthy's play book against Senator Obama. It is the exact same script.

At long last Senator McCain have you left no sense of decency?

God knows he couldn't talk about his record:

"On Webb's GI Bill, he expressed opposition, and he was AWOL when it was time to vote on May 22.

In September, he voted against another Webb bill that would have mandated adequate rest for troops between combat deployments.

On a badly needed $1.5-billion increase for veterans medical services for fiscal year 2007 — to be funded through closing corporate tax loopholes — he voted no. He also voted against establishing a trust fund to bolster under-budgeted veterans hospitals.

In May 2006, he voted against a $20-billion allotment for expanding swamped veterans medical facilities.

In April 2006, he was one of 13 Senate Republicans who voted against an amendment to provide $430 million for veterans outpatient care.

In March 2004, he voted against and helped defeat on a party-line vote a $1.8-billion reserve for veterans medical care, also funded by closing tax loopholes."

http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/06/03/0604humes_edit.html

McCain's record, that is.

Does McCain think all the sneering/condescension makes him look good?


I think its pretty sad that McCain can be sportsmanlike in this contest, and has turned into a petty trash-talking jerk.

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Somebody in that campaign must think it's working.

To me, it just makes the man look petty, and indicates to me that McCain already knows he's going down like a clown.

Maybe he's been able to get away with this kind of crap in AZ senatorial contests, but campaigning like he is on the national stage makes him woefully unprepared to even campaign

Obama, meanwhile, looks more and more prepared and qualified to be president by the day.

You picked a bad, bad year for the party to hand you the nomination, Gramps.

October will bring doom to McCain's campaign. The guy has been ranting all week.

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And McLame's ranting and generally lameness has beein such stark contrast to Obama looking like he's already The Prez.

I can't believe McLame hasn't popped an emboulism - and I'm not wishing that on him or anyone else.

Meanwhile IN Iraq:

"BAGHDAD - A female suicide bomber blew herself up near US-allied Sunni Arab fighters walking in a crowded area of Baqubah, killing at least eight of the guards and wounding 24 other people yesterday evening, police said."

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2008/07/25/bomber_kills_8_hurts_24_in_iraq/

I guess suicide bombers aren't sectarian killings, just killings, so they don't count.

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I am just hoping that the pathetic pity vote does not put McCain in office in 2009. It worked for Nixon . . .

We need to get McCain laid before November so folks don't feel guilty about how lame he is in November and vote for him. Does anybody here have the phone number of one or both of the McCain Girls?

I think he should put on his "premature victory" hat:

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/dependable_renegade/2008/07/his-campaign-di.html

It'll be premature alright but I don't it'll be victory...

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It won't - no one was pathetic like Nixon - he fucking grovelled for the job.

I don't think McLame's temperament will let him do that. Plus, he'll never be able to make people squirm in quite the same way that Nixon's neediness did. Nixon knew how to work his pathos - he had absolutely no shame whatsoever.

"Checkers" "Republican cloth coat" "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more."

Naw - Nixon was in a class by himself.

WOW, did you come up with that all on your own John??

Get it guys? It's like Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope", but McCain was clever and appended "-lessness" on the end of "Hope"!

Wow, very witty John. I'm writing the Pulitzer committee right after I hit the send button.

Makes me miss the green-screen classic "that's not change we can believe in, heh heh".

So McCain is back to saying the Surge failed? Whatever John...

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Obama needs to pivot the discussion and link Iraq to the economy. He needs to talk about the costs of the war and the lack of benefits to AMERICANS. McCain says the surge is working? For who? It hasn't done a damn thing for me or anyone I know..

Pathetic.

Some here are arguing that surge should not be talked anymore, using Chuck Hagel's point. If this works, what about let's not talk about who supported the war or not to begin with, let's talk who can better manage the war as it is ongoing? Should we set a timetable or not?

McCain's argument is very powerful if it is well framed - yes, you might show good judgement by opposing the war to begin with. However, you showed bad judgement by opposing the war and proposing to get all troops out by now (had he had his way). You thought the American soilders cannot improve the situation in Iraq and you have been proven wrong. McCain on the other hand took an unpopular stand and helped salvage a bad situation which will eventually allow American soldiers to get out of Iraq with honors of winner - checkmate!!!

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But you can't let him get away with framing it all around the troops. If he wants to be an obsessive old soldier that's all well and good for him and his fixation with the military but Obama needs to expand the frame and talk about what is good for ALL AMERICANS. We can't afford to spend $2-3 billion a week in Iraq because of a fixation on "winning" because the American people aren't winning anything.

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I count 17 grafs into the speech before McCain talks about what he'd do as President. Nine of those 17 are all about Obama.

If I were Obama that would how I'd start my response. It's not a complaint, just an observation. Obama ought to highlight Maliki's endorsement of his pullout plan. He also ought point out to that McCain and the Republicans are the people who consistently take the "politically safe" path of not owning up to their own mistakes in Iraq because any admission of error lessens their authoritarian image with their base. They're the pandering political cowards. Then I'd say that I'd rather talk about what I'd do, and challenge McCain to do the same. Otherwise, I'd say that if he's going to go negative, I'd be ready to respond in kind.

McCain: the audacity of an old fool. the audacity of a curmudgeon. the audacity of a man who shouldve hung it up years ago. the audacity of the past.

"The audacity of the clueless candidate" is more appropriate...

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November 4 can't get here soon enough. (Is that really the best they could do?)

The audacity of desperation, trying to ride the coattails of a younger successful man by stealing his vernacular.

I agree though that the Obama campaign should do a little more than just 'take the high road' in response to these attacks. When you have the media in your back pocket the way McCain does, I just don't think it's wise to pretend that the attacks don't exist, or that simply giving a laundry list of counterexamples is sufficient. You have to explain things in language that the media dolts will understand - if McCain is going to question your integrity (and he is), then you hit back twice as hard, to make it clear what you stand for and that you really do believe in what you say.

I'm not saying he has to respond in kind every time, but the campaign needs to do more than look the other way. Obama is ahead, but he's not *that* far ahead.

Obama and his team set up the visits to military installations before going overseas. After seeing how the media got excluded in Iraq and Afghanistan, they decided it wasn’t worth traveling to Ramstein and Landstuhl to visit the severely wounded troops because they couldn’t bring the campaign and get the photo ops they wanted. Instead, Obama went shopping in Berlin.
That’s certainly a revealing set of priorities for a man who wants to lead these troops as Commander in Chief. I hope he had a fun day shopping. Obama has the audacity of a Jerk.

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There wouldn't be any severely wounded troops if it was for Republicans and the Democrats who enabled them to destroy the lives of thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis all for a pack of lies. If Americans can't deal with that we'll just keep killing our own for nothing at a cost of $2 billion a week, wearing flag pins, of course.

I'm not really sure about facts on this, but I believe I read somewhere that a significant factor in the success of the surge depended on briefcases full of hundred dollar bills delivered to Sunni sheiks in return for banishing Al Qaeda malefactors. Does anyone know if this is true? If this is true, is it documented anywhere? I really can't recall where I heard about this.

what a depressing ad. i guess when you have one foot in the grave you have no hope

Checkmate nothing. the war was wrong to begin with and we should never have invaded the country. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and wasnt harboring Al Qaeda at the time. there were no WMDs and they did twist intelligence to make their case. all of the money spent, and treasure lost, and our economy is in a shambles. all for the person who romanticizes war, Bush, that dolt you voted for. he wanted to go there and those warcriminal neo cons. but none of the above matters to you. war and power and imperialism is all you care about. innocents killed as a result are irrelevant to you. you really are a c**t.

"I think McCain found his voice in Colorado"
Andrea Mitchell, MSNBC

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1) As has been stated elsewhere, none of Iraqi political goals identified before the surge have been achieved.

2) While American and Iraqi casualties are way down from the peak during the early period of the surge, they continue to be about the same as they were in early 2006, a figure that would be completely unacceptable if not for the worse levels that came later.

3) McCain continues to lie about the connnection between the Anbar awakening and the surge.

4) Does anyone else find it a bit creepy that near the end McCain segues for no apparent reason into an appeal to Hispanics and uses that as a lead in to describe in excessive detail the events associated with someone else's Medal of Honor?

Our biggest problem in this world is extremist muslims. People are so nieve and willing to put one as our President. GET REAL! He needs to climb back into the trees he came out of. Your curious George looking "MUSLIM" Obama. WERE DOOMED WITH THIS MUSLIM!

Smell that? That gasoline smell. A smell like . . . desperation.

"GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU 'DERN KIDS!" -- John McCain

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