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McCain: "I Would Imagine That We Are" In A Recession

Hmmm. This, from John McCain this morning, isn't going to help McCain overcome his large disadvantage among voters who cite the economy as a leading concern...

McCain was asked if he believes we're in a recession, and here's the crux of his answer:

"If we're technically in a recession or not, I would imagine that we are, but the major thing is, Americans are hurting, and Americans don't like it and they think the country's in the wrong direction."

What you have here is McCain's political problem in a nutshell. If he acknowledges that the country's in a recession, then he has to explain why he's basically offering a continuation of Bush's economic policies. If he doesn't, he looks out of touch with Americans' economic pain. Here he tries to split the difference.

On this score, my favorite quote from this interview might be this one: "Eighty-some percent of the American people think the country's on the wrong track. Approval ratings of Congress, I saw one poll 12 percent, the lowest in 40 years they've been taking these polls."

No mention of Bush's approval numbers. Only those of the Dem Congress. Good one!


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Eighty-some percent of the American people think the country's on the wrong track

...and that's why I want to continue on that same track. It's the Maverick in me!

I would imagine you're all fucked and I'll screw you more when I become the President.(wink & smile)...heee

Exactly, and: "Oh, did I mention how I will also f**k with your Social Security and Medicare, which I consider entitlement programs even though you have paid into them since you were 18 years old? But those are the breaks for you poor schmucks that didn't marry as well as I did, heh heh heh."

Can I imagine that he is running for President and that it will all go away when I wake up?

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He really is in a no win situation, because in order to win the primary he had to semi-praise the king. His only shot was to basically run as an independent and attack the king's policies and put forth a completely new agenda. He didn't do that, so at this point he is pretty much screwed.

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Um, isn't McCain himself in that same Congress with the 12 percent approval rating? Like for the last 20 years or so?

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Nah, he hasn't been there for almost a year.

And had the audacity to comment about the 4th of July break when he never even shows to vote, what a jerk!

That stuck out to me too as I was watching it this morning

John McCain explains his views on the current economic recession.


"homina, homina, homina."

McCain imagines. That's spin.

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Hey, his policy on Iraq is imagining that we'll have achieved "victory" by the end of his first term. And his economic policy is imagining he'll balance the budget by finding change under the sofa cushions.

Asking us to imagine that he'll have solved all these problems is so much easier than actually telling us what he plans to do. But it's making it more likely that a McCain presidency is just in his imagination, too, so it's fine with me.

I hate to be a naysayer on this one but McCain actually (surprisingly) has it right. It is, at this time, uncertain whether the U.S. economy is in a recession. There is not enough data available to declare a recession and so far there has been indicators to suggest positive (although very slow) growth. Regardless of whether we are in a recession, however, there is substantial pain being caused to many of us as jobs are lost and not being replaced at nearly a fast enough clip. McCain isn't trying to split the difference on the economic issue; rather, he is following pretty standard economic talk at this time.

Of more siginficance to me is what plans can McCain offer to make things better for those who are suffering. So far, I have seen little that would suggest he has a clue in this department.

He said that he imagines we are in a recession while "technically" disavowing it in the same sentence. Why not be nuanced? Why babble and look disconnected? Why blame the Democratic congress and nary a mention of Bush?

I would kindly refute your statement as this is only because they are working the numbers. Were they to take all economic factors into account, we are in a recession.

For rts.

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I agree with that observation 1000%. Also, by working the numbers they have artificially been claiming a bs expansion prior to this "downturn." Economically our country has been f*cked up for decades. They constantly f*ck with the numbers. Even the b-movie actor's "expansion" was a bunch of bunk. It was an artificially inflated expansion by manipulation and by tremendous deficit spending, which blew up in the early 90's. We need some major economic restructuring to deal with huge structural problems. I don't know if obama can start to begin righting the ship, but at least we know that he will try. It will take decades to resolve these problems, not just one presidential term.

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"Economically our country has been f*cked up for decades." Carefull, you talking bad about those "surplusses as far as the eye can see..." that Bubba installed less than 8 years ago.

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I'm not a mr. bill fan either. Statistically real wages have been stagnant since the 70's. I distinctly remember talk during the 90's about the 22 mill bs jobs. Everyone was saying they didn't see where they were, mcdonalds? It was another false expansion based on manipulation, primarily the dot com bs, among other factors.

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Oh you know better than to cite "facts" around here.

Greg's favorite quote, I laughed over that quote too. Yeah, where'd Bush go.

You omitted the first part of the quote, where McSame said, "If I had any idea what that meant, I would imagine we are in a recession...."

A recession? Amidst all those tax cuts for the rich that you keep saying are good for the economy? Say it ain't so, straight-talkin John!

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I always chuckle when I see the wingers or folks like McCain cite the congressional approval numbers. It's the only thing they can cling to - ie, see, people hate the Dems as well.

Here's the problem with that argument. Even though Congress' ratings are in among the lowest ever recorded, Dem party ID continues to increase. Dems hold a huge advantage in the generic Congressional election polls and have for a while. Significant majorities want the Dems to continue to control Congress after the November elections. And they are set to significantly increase their majorities in both houses in the Fall.

Translation - The American people hate Congress, true, but it seems that they are smart enough to based those negative feelings not on the Dems in Congress but on the Republicans. If voters blamed Congress' inaction on many issues on the Democrats, why would the party to increase its majorities in both houses, as the polls have consistently been showing for months. McCain and the wingnuts don't give the voters enough credit - the voters know that it is GOP obstructionism that is preventing Congress from acting in our nation's best interest...and they know that giving the Dems larger majorities will help to overcome this obstructionism.

But the wingers will just keep on citing those numbers. And they can keep citing them after their party loses even more seats in November. Then, I won't just be chuckling...I'll be laughing my arse off.

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"the voters know that it is GOP obstructionism that is preventing Congress from acting in our nation's best interest..." The GOP is blocking the FISA bill? The GOP is blocking offshore drilling? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/67_support_offshore_drilling_64_expect_it_will_lower_prices

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Some Rasmussen numbers right back at you:

Democrats Hold onto Solid Lead in Generic Congressional Ballot (7/8)

That's a 14pt lead in the generic poll...and we know from individual polls that have been published over the last several months that Dems are going to win big in Congress in the fall. Do you think American voters are so clueless as to vote for a party they think is the root of all problems in Congress? I think the 14pt lead the Dems have over the GOP in this poll speaks for itself - voters don't place the majority of the blame for the failures of Congress on the Dems. And since there are really only 2 parties in Congress....

Those numbers are complete crap anyway. It's easy to say you hate a group of people - you can put the blame on whatever subset you want.

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That is LOL-worthy (and I did LOL), but seriously: was Obama's recent comment -- restating of the old saw that 90% of success is just showing up -- a subtle dig at McCain's terrible voting record the last year?

Here's an entertaining peek into the archives, from last year:

A senior Republican state legislator from John McCain's home state of Arizona "called on Sen. John McCain to resign from his seat Tuesday if he continues to miss votes while campaigning for president." [Arizona Daily Star, 5/23/07]

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A recent report cited McCain as having "missed 43 votes, nearly 50 percent of the current Congress' votes," a substantially greater number than any other presidential candidate.

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McCain lashed out at fellow Republican Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), after the Texan called out McCain for being "out of line" by choosing to "parachute in" at the last minute despite not sitting in on negotiations on the Senate immigration bill. At that time McCain responded by accusing Cornyn of "making a 'chickens-t' argument" and shouting, "[Expletive] you!" It's yet to be seen how he'll respond to Pearce. [Washingtonpost.com, 5/18/07; Roll Call, 5/21/07; Arizona Daily Star, 5/23/07]

http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/05/mccains_missed.php

Dear American Voters, reporters, media. professionals, political parties, and our hon. Presidential Nominees,


Subject: Presidential Temperament

Please talk about and "Compare And Contrast" the " Presidential Temperament" of our Presidential presumptive nominees. I will also request and plead to the nominees themselves [ Hon. Senator McCain and Obama ].
Our nation has been applying this yard and stick tor the appointments and confirmation process of our Supreme Court Justices nominees.
Our Greatgrand Nation Foundations are as under:
Family, friends, fellows, faith, funds, fun, with fairness & freedom And without fear, favor, and failure.
It will be disgrace and shameful if the nominees and media will not look into this critical and crucial aspect under current challenging times and circumstances within our country and all around the Globe.

America wake up and the discuss the " Presidential Temperament" of our presumptive presidential nominee's [ Hon. Senator McCain and Obama].

Yours sincerely,
COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret].
Disabled American Veteran
Forensic psychiatrist, Las Vegas, Nevada

My point is that a recession has not yet been declared. Personally, I think it a highly likely we are in a recession. However, take a look at this post on Calculated Risk:

http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/06/merrills-rosenberg-recession-confirmed.html

Upshot is that need do not yet know if this is an official recession or how deep the recession will be. It is likely we are in recessionary times but it was not unreasonable of McCain to hedge since the data is not available to him or anyone else.

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I don't just oppose John McCain politically. I despise him. He is a liar, a fraud, a coward and the worst kind of demagogue.

That said, I have to stick up for him a little, here. Recession is a technical economic term, not a synonym for "bad economy". I mention this not merely because I am an insufferable pedant, but also because if it turns out that we are not, technically, in a recession, the righties and their toadies in the MSM will use that technicality as a rhetorical, "me or your lyin' eyes", club against anyone who tries to point out that this economy, whatever the stats say, really really sucks.

"Americans are hurting, and Americans don't like it and they think the country's in the wrong direction."


Aww, how nice of gramps to stump for Obama :)

Reality Check:


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July 8 Rasmussen
Democrats 47%, Republicans 34%

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