McCain Campaign Declines To Disavow Top Surrogate's Remarks About "The Muslims"
The McCain campaign is declining to disavow a top surrogate's assertion that "the Muslims" have said that "either we kneel or they're going to kill us."
As noted below, the comment was made by Bud Day, a frequent leading surrogate for McCain, on a conference call with Florida reporters. I asked the campaign whether they agreed with the assertion.
Here's what McCain spokesperson Michael Goldfarb sent me:
"The threat we face is from radical Islamic extremism."
This isn't quite how Day described the threat -- the McCain camp attributes it not to "the Muslims," but rather to radical Islamic ideology -- but the McCain campaign won't explicitly say it disagrees with Day or disavow his remarks. If anything, it shades a bit in the direction of backing Day up.
This is partly because of who Day is -- McCain is reluctant to throw him under the bus. Day isn't just any old surrogate. Day, a Medal of Honor recipient and Swift Boat Vet, is a former fellow POW of McCain who frequently speaks for the candidate on campaign conference calls.
Just to recap: This high-profile McCain surrogate said that "the Muslims" are going to kill us, and the McCain campaign doesn't appear to disagree.




















Comments (60)
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!!
Cynics would say that they're playing a subtle wink-wink game on this question. Others would say that McCain camp doesn't have the message discipline to coordinate such a game.
Either way, he's on the losing end.
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July 18, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh great... now we are at war with the world's second largest religion?
July 18, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why not? I mean, if we want to use extremely general terms about our enemy, we sure did beat the tar out of those nasty Christians in Europe in the 40s.
July 18, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is truly despicable.
Will the Obama campaign jump on this, or will they stay quiet?
July 18, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well we know the media wont jump on this, they are to busy bashing Obama.
July 18, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yet more terrible news for Senator Obama. This guy just can't catch a break....
July 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I liked islamo-fascist better. The term was so much more manly. I wonder if mcbush will start using that one again. I hope he does.
July 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
cmon...you didn't really expect them to disavow did you?
this is the same campaign who put a swiftboater on their "truth squad".
July 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is maddening. The McCain campain is flailing its arms around in incompetent disarray, but its numbers aren't falling as a result. People generally seem not to hate idiocy, and it's driving me crazy.
July 18, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you know the saying, "Stupid is as stupid does."
And in this country Stupid votes.
July 18, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
All in how the media reports (or doesn't report) the story. That's the real key to the polls. I suspect if McCain was getting full media attention for his comments and gaffes, Obama would be up by 10 points in every poll. Instead, everything is about Obama and how whatever the news is, contains ominous signs for his candidacy.
July 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
Do you realize how intellectually bankrupt the reporters and commentators in the MSM are? They all blithely parrot the "This election is a referendum on Obama" line without any thought involved.
This election isn't a referendum on Obama. It presents a stark choice about where the future of our country will be. Reducing it to a referendum on Obama is an act of intellectual laziness and, duplicity, because it misleads voters into focusing solely on Obama, and neglecting any examination of Flippety Floppety McCain.
I hate the media at times.
July 18, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The avg person wouldn't know about it since the media doesn't cover it.
July 18, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of numbers, did you see the latest from Rasmussen out of Maine. Now, Obama still has a 9-10pt lead and he's not going to lose the state, but a month ago it was a 20pt Obama lead. Rasmussen says it's all movement among the indies. Obama led with independents in Maine 57-30 last month and now they are statistically tied. I could be wrong but it feels like I've been seeing Obama's lead among indies in several states decreasing or - some cases - disappearing completely. Mind you, it's not all states but it seems like it's happening in the majority of states that have been polled in June and July.
Anybody else seeing the same thing? Anybody have a possible explanation.
It is maddening. Obama is out there working the states, making big speeches, presenting big ideas. McCain attends big money fundraisers, has a hand-picked audience town hall here or there, says something stupid or wrong on a daily basis, completely reverses himself on a number of issues, yet there's movement in his direction? It has to be the media - if he were under the microscope as much as Obama, more Americans would know how bad a candidate he is and the polls would reflect this.
I barely watch the tv news because I want to throw my shoe at the set whenever I turn it one. And I rarely read the newspapers. I do catch 5-10 minutes of Morning Joe each day as I get ready for work. And every day - every freaking day - they're discussing some sort of perceived problem facing Obama. McCain is rarely even discussed, except in comparison - eg, "now, McCain's strength is foreign policy?" (give with, of course, no explanation why it's his strength) Again, this is only 5-10 minutes and it's always the same time every morning. But why is there never any hand-wringing over McCain.
July 18, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
> It has to be the media - if he were under the
> microscope as much as Obama, more Americans would
> know how bad a candidate he is and the polls would
> reflect this.
This is as darkly amusing as the traditional media refusing the even mention the Iraq War vote as a key factor in Senator Clinton's primary loss. Do you think, just possibly think, that Senator Obama's **FISA capitulation vote** might have something to do with his reduced standing among independents?
sPh
July 20, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The threat we face is from radical Islamic extremism."
here is what we are really facing in terms of a threat!
"The threat we face is from radical republican extremism."
July 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, extremisists vs. extremists. No credible understanding = no credible policies. A guaranteed FAIL!
July 18, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bullshit....you are out and out lying now. McCain's old POW pal said "muslims"...McCains says islamic extreemists...you know what he thinks, you just want him to cut off his friend at the knees like your guy did with his "Lifelong mentor and pastor." McCain has more class and loyalty to an old friend that to do that. Even if he has to get static from the far left nut jobs around here.
July 18, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh? Bud Day is a part of the McCain campaign. A member of the McCain campaign made a disgusting and ignorant remark about Muslims.
McCain's spokesperson tried to throw a smokescreen into the picture by talking about Islamic extremists. By not rejecting outright Bud Day's comments, and by trying to change the subject, the McCain campaign gives an implicit endorsement to Day's comments.
I don't get your "bullshit" comment.
And I don't think McCain has as much class and loyalty as you think he does.
July 18, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sick of this game playing, try to trap someone, petty BS. It is clear what the man meant, he was referring to the Islamic extremists who definitely want to kill us. It is also true that these extremists have many supporters among the 'general' muslim population. So give it a rest, the Islamic extremists are muslims, and they do want us dead.
July 18, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, if Bud Day is anything like my maternal grandparents or some of the people I work with, he actually meant the Muslims when he said "the Muslims."
It looks like gotcha-games, I know, but sometimes, unfortunately, things are exactly as they seem. It is bizarre that McCain was willing to protect this filthy, underworldly line of thought. "The Muslims" include American citizens, too. Makes me want to throw up, this idiocy.
July 18, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. If Mr. Day meant Islamic extremists, then that's what he should have said. To slander an entire religion with his choice of words is unfortunate, and he should clarify his remarks. Those remarks were "clear" only if you think scary Muslims are out to kill us.
As for this:
Can you refer to some evidence that supports that, or are you just blowing smoke?
Finally, why is it "gameplaying" when McCain or one of his surrogates says something outrageous? Because they got caught?
July 18, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The slander against Islam is by those that believe in killing anyone who is not a Muslim, and other Muslims who remain silent and do not condemn them. Islamic clerics should denounce the verse of the sword and clearly state that it is not applicable. Their failure to do so perpetuates this radicalism.
July 18, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice attempt at changing subject. We know that's not "the" only slander against Islam.
July 18, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
"They'll take my verse when they pry my cold dead fingers off it." Mullah Hes Ton
July 19, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is clear to us, who I am assuming are for the most part very informed, politcal junkies is not so obvious to the uninformed masses. There in lies the problem here, throwing this crap out there and hoping it sticks in those uninformed minds.
The McCain camp needs to discredit and clarify these statements.
As for Bud Day, I could give a rat's ass what happens to him! I hope he stays on with the camp and dishes out more ridiculous bullshit we can call him on.
Now, if the mainstream media could do that as well.....
July 18, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is entirely true to say that failure to disavow Day's remarks, "shades a bit in the direction of backing Day up."
I hope McCain sticks up for Day. That guy has shelves full of material that the blogosphere is going to be digging through for days. I bet this comment is just going to be the tip of the iceberg that's out there on Nexis.
I hope Day likes buses -- good chance that he's about to meet one.
July 18, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong. He didn't lie. Read Greg's post more carefully.
July 18, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you think "Muslims" = "radical Islamic extremists", then you're a blithering jackass who shouldn't be allowed within 20 feet of an Internet connection without adult supervision.
See if you can fire up a couple of synapses and follow this. Radical Islamic extremism is a subset of the Muslim faith. However, that doesn't make "the Muslims" radical extremists. And since McCain is using Day as a surrogate, Day speaks for the campaign.
If you can't follow, it's okay. Just go catch some O'Reilly. You'll doubtlessly feel more at ease.
July 18, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
FALSE COMPARISON.
bud day was speaking on behalf of the mccain campaign in his capacity as mccain's representative when he made the remarks.
it IS clear what bud day thinks. and mccain is more than happy to have bigots and morons like bud day out there as his representatives spewing this sort of ignorant hate-mongering.
just as mccain himself is more than happy to sing songs about bombing iran and crack jokes about killing iranians when he's addressing republican audiences but then has the gall to run ads where he claims to 'hate war'.
the truth is we do know what mccain really thinks.
July 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently,
radical Islamic extremists = all Muslims
for the John McCrapshoot campaign. Er, no?
Not exactly a clear statement there.
July 18, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Republicans, running campaigns on bigotry?
I'm shocked there is gambling going on, in the casino!
July 18, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Question: how do we get people to get informed?
This is isn't about intelligence. As I stated on the other thread on this subject, a former classmate of mine, A-honor roll student at the time, actually bought into the Obama is a Muslim with terrorists ties B.S.
Something has got to be done. More Civics education ? Better MSM- absolutely (do your job MSM- don't assume people just know Obama is Christian). Any suggestions as to what we, and the Obama campaign, can do now and for the future?
July 18, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey JoeC,
Please drop by and pay a visit to this informative thread about an effort, led by Raider and joined by many TPMers, to begin a coordinated netroots organized response to ensure responsible media reporting during the campaign: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/scaamd-associated-press-accoun.php#comments
The Media will not make any serious efforts towards informing the public until we start making some serious noise demanding it.
July 18, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will do that, just bookmarked it. Almost out of the office, so no comments today. I will soon though.
After thinking about it, I think the best we can do to squelch the Obama is Muslim LIE is to do what they are doing.
Send a detailed email to all your friends, family, everyone in your contacts about how Obama IS Christian, how is NOT a Muslim (not that there is anything wrong with that), and NOT a terrorist. Then tell them to pass it along to everyone they know.
Do it today, do it now! Small efforts like this REALLY DO add up over time.
I'm composing mine as soon as I get home. A small annoyance that my family and friends (who know better) will get over. The goal is to reach some of the uninformed voters they may know, or that their friends may know, etc.
July 18, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
What this old man has to say doesn't matter--he has spent his best shots when Kerry allowed him to derail his campaign. These people are disparate, the only thing they have left in their favor are the voting machines with no paper trail. The dems had better be very worried about the votes being stolen, very worried. That is the biggest worry at this point of the game.
July 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Day should be Keith Olbermann "Worst Person of the DAY".
July 18, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just a desperate Republican ploy to lose Michigan.
July 18, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
My response to this is too long, so for anyone interested, here is the post:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/07/does-mccain-advocate-jihad-against.html
July 18, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is news to me. Did Bud Day read it in a restroom stall while waiting for a plane in Minneapolis?
July 18, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it isn't clear, especially because a goodly number of Republicans I've met are unable to distinguish between "the muslims" as a polyglot and "radical islamic extremists".
There are plenty of people who don't recognize the difference, and it's very possible that Day is one of them.
Words mean things. Sorry.
July 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
And how does one distinguish between them? One group kidnaps, murders, bombs, threatens, etc. The other remains silent and does not speak out against their intolerant actions. When was the last time there was a large protest march of Muslims condemning radical Islam? Or supporting someones right to draw a cartoon or write a book that is critical of their religion? When has that happened?
July 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
so to be clear, you are arguing that we can't distinguish muslims from radical islamic extremists?
and so you agree with bud day and believe the problem is 'the muslims' and not just 'radical islamic extremists'?
July 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. McCain's silence tells us that he wants to associate himself with the "they're all angry turrorists" crowd. And that choice will have consequences.
July 19, 2008 7:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wee-hee! So McCain keeps Gramm on as economic adviser, and now keeps this guy close. Ducks on a pond. We can all write the ads ourselves.
July 18, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think most Americans are terrified of Muslims - radical or not. I heard Bush when he called the war on terror a crusade - he only said it once in public and then they stuck a hose in his ear and washed the word out of his brain. If we were in war in western Europe or Britian and were killing as many civilians as we are in Iraq americans would be shocked but Iraq civilians are unknown and alien to americans. That is why the repubs are trying so hard to associate Obama with Islam - they understand how scary it is to a lot of people in this county. I come from a farming community in lower Delaware and I'll bet my parents have never even seen a Muslim in thier 80+ years. McCain won't totally reject what ever is said by Day.
July 18, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hating Muslims is as american as apple pie.
"no Irish need apply"; "the yellow peril"; Father Coughlin and his anti semitism; etc. It's another face of "american exceptionalism". The belief since Governor Bradford that we are a city on a hill and everyone else is inferior if not worse than that.
We truly do have many good qualities. As do the Germans, the French, the Andorrans, you name it.
One of our bad qualities is this unfounded belief that only we have good qualities.
We're not going to change so Obama has to demean himself by wearing that flag pin.
July 19, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
why do you hate america?
July 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
With McBush running about appeasing like a chickenhawk with its head cut off, one dare call it TREASON!
July 18, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
One name:
Representative Keith Ellison, a Muslim in the House of Representatives, and he's great, and we're fine. Thank you very much.
And I quote, by Keith Ellison:
“Aren’t you a Muslim?” “Will you be the first one in Congress if you win?” “Will you swear your oath on the Qur'an?” “Do you oppose terrorism?”
I’ve heard them all. But although I’ve been asked a few intrusive, repetitive, and even silly questions about my faith, life has been good.
First, a fairly small number of conversations revolve around religion. Whole days – even weeks – have gone by without me being asked to speak on behalf of the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. But more importantly, I’ve been able to pursue my work on behalf of my constituents. I have been effective on issues such as peace, ending the war in Iraq, credit justice, and environmental sustainability. My colleagues have been tolerant and inclusive. I have not had a single unpleasant face-to-face encounter with a member of congress over religion. Individual leaders in the Bush Administration have been open and inclusive. I accompanied Speaker Pelosi on her trip to the Middle East, and I’ll never forget the warm reception she received from the women who poured out of the Omayyad Mosque in Damascus just to shake her hand or take a picture.
Of course, there have been a few bumps.
For example, officers in a training class reported that a Minneapolis police lieutenant made comments that implied that I was a terrorist. The comments were rebuked by the Mayor and Police Chief, and the incident is currently under investigation. Commentator Glenn Beck asked me to “prove” him that I was not working with “enemies”. Another conservative commentator opined that I should be barred from serving in Congress if I swear to uphold the U.S. Constitution on the Qur’an.
Of course, there’s more, but those incidents prove my main point: there is much reason for hope. I did win the election. I am making progress on a broad swath of progressive issues. I continue to be inspired by the courage of people standing up for peace, for shared-prosperity, and health care reform.
While some Muslim friends and acquaintances have recounted shabby treatment in post 9/11 America, in the next breath they have told me about how they are opening up businesses, sending kids to college, or prospering in some other way. It’s common for some bright young Muslim person to tell me about their own political ambitions. “You might have been first, but I’m gonna be in Congress too.”
Some have pledged to get more politically engaged or to support candidates who have the backbone to speak up for civil and human rights for all. But every prescription I have heard has been solidly within the heartland of American civil redress and our democratic political process.
This should not be surprising, given that 71 percent of Muslim Americans report that they believe that you can make it in America if you work hard, according to a recent Pew Research Center poll. Only 64 percent of Americans on average reported the same level of confidence in American economic and social mobility.For Muslim Americans, the United States is the land of opportunity.
I don’t want to diminish those occasions, however, where Muslim Americans have been persecuted or mistreated. These cases exist. Just ask James Yee, former United States Army chaplain and captain, who was threatened with the death penalty, kept in solitary confinement for seventy-six days, and forced to undergo sensory deprivation because he voiced concerns about the treatment about Guantanamo detainees. All charges were later dropped and he was cleared to resume duties. Instead, he accepted an honorable discharge. Today he lectures widely about the importance of upholding our constitutional heritage even in the face of a terrorist threat. Or ask Brandon Mayfield, a lawyer, who received a rare public apology from the FBI, when it admitted that his fingerprints were mistakenly linked to one found near the scene of a terrorist bombing in Spain. The blunder led to his imprisonment for two weeks, and eventually a settlement of $2 million. There are other cases as well.
Though rare, these cases are not unimportant. They are widely known incidents, and could overshadow the more typical story of participation and prosperity. As the injury is widely known, the remedies and apologies must be also widely known. But the more important lesson is that tragedies like 9/11 can cause us to react out of fear and rage against our neighbors and fellow loyal Americans.
American Muslims are an asset to the country, not a threat. Unfair suspicion and profiling does not serve the national interest or honor our hard earned reputation as the beacon for civil and human rights around the world.
I can’t speak for every Muslim, but I remain confident and hopeful about the prospects for America’s Muslims because, in the end, America is about religious tolerance, inclusion, and fairness.
End quote.
Keith Ellison became the first Muslim elected to the United States Congress when he won the open seat for Minnesota's 5th congressional district in 2006.
Posted by Keith Ellison on July 27, 2007
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/muslims_speak_out/2007/07/born_and_raised_in_the_us_a.html
July 18, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point.
Add Rep. Andre Carson (D-IN) as a Muslim Congressman.
He better not give a fist bump while on the Hill, though...you know how those Muslims are...
July 18, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
90% of all the world's current armed conflicts involve intolerant Muslims unable to get along with their neighbors. If they can't tolerate others (e.g., Jews are not allowed in Saudi Arabia and preaching Christianity there carries a death sentence) why should they be tolerated?
July 18, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you the marvelous Ape in the McCain rape joke?
July 19, 2008 2:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
not really - out of the 35 or so armed conflicts ongoing at this time, including 5 major wars, only thirteen involve muslim contries. Out of that 13, 9 are intra-muslim conflicts, either civil war/rebellions or anti-government insurgencies.
which leaves 5: iraq, afghanistan, israel/palestine,phillipine muslim insurgency, and south thailand muslim insurgency.
i'm no math whiz, but i'm pretty sure that 5 isn't 90% of 35.
now to what's left of your point: saudi arabia is an ally of the united states. i could say that 90% of the 9/11 hijackers came from there and i'd be correct.
muslim=arab=middle east=OIL, which is why everyone has muslims on the brain, including you.
think about it....
July 18, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
coincidences of geography are lost on bigots.
July 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand why so many people are surprised that a member of McCain's entourage would make a statement like this. Look at the history of this country, white men used to tell their women that the Blacks wanted to rape and violate them in other ways, then during WWII they told the women the Japanese men wanted to do the same thing, then it was the Mexicans and now it's the Muslims that want to do harm. This is a very prejudice and fearmongering country.
July 19, 2008 3:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where are the MSM outrage stories? Where are the Muslim groups outrage stories? Imagine if a prominent Obama surrogate had said this? We would be having 24/7 coverage of this talking about 'Obama's Muslim problem'. (just like what happened when 2 unpaid volunteers in Michigan asked the two Muslim women to move). The MSM's complicity in shielding McCain is almost as bad as what they did for Bush's War. We deserve better.
July 19, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain won't disavow this guy or anybody in the rabid-rightwing base because he's smart enough to know they'll turn on him in a new york minute if they sense their power-hungry, angry, rage and fear-based egos aren't being stroked sufficiently.
It's all a game. And the people losing in November if he's elected is everybody but the psychos.
July 19, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Among the Muslim-related (Muslim v. non-Muslim or intra-Muslim sectarian battles) armed conflicts of the past 20 years are:
The First Gulf War
The Iraq War
Taliban fight in Afghanistan
Kashmir region of India/Pakistan
Second Sudanese War from 1980s to 2005
Darfur
Phillipines Muslim rebels
Bosnia/Serbia/ethnic (Muslim) Albanians
Chechnya/Russia
Kenya
Palestinians/Hamas/Hezbollah v. Israel
Now, you got any non-Muslim-involved conflicts of the last 20 years as significant as that laundry list of Muslim problems? I didn't think so.
July 19, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever, the amount of wars that have or are ongoing that involve(d) Muslims, whatever the circumstances, that still does not excuse the comments of Bud Day.
Obviously, his comments can include American Muslims, as much as they do foreign Muslims and radicalized, Islamic terrorsits.
Bud Day's blanket statement is still inexcusable and feeds into xenophobic and anti-Islamic stereotyping. Not exactly something any campaign should turn a blind eye too
July 19, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink