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McCain Camp Manufactures More Outrage Obama Over Wes Clark Comments

The McCain campaign hits Obama over Wes Clark's comments for the third day running, releasing yet another statement...

"Yesterday, Barack Obama's campaign said he rejected Gen. Clark's attack on John McCain's military service. But last night, Gen. Clark admitted to speaking with the Obama campaign, and then went out and repeated his attacks. It's clear that the Obama campaign isn't telling Wes Clark to apologize, and are either encouraging or tolerating his attacks on John McCain's military service.

The Obama campaign even said they were 'glad' that Gen. Clark 'clarified' a comment they supposedly repudiated. If this kind of wink-and-nod game is how Barack Obama wants to run his campaign, then fine. But spare us the empty talk of 'new politics' and raising the dialogue in this country. We just wonder: Will Barack Obama's actions ever match his words?"

It's really unclear what exactly the McCain campaign is pretending to be outraged about. Whatever the wisdom of Obama's repudiation of Clark's comments, this is pretty simple: Obama doesn't stand by Clark's comments, and Clark does. Clark communicated as much to the Obama campaign.

How does this prove that Obama is "encouraging or tolerating" the attacks? It doesn't, of course. At this point McCain advisers are simply manufacturing outrage, secure in the knowledge that they won't get called out for it. Oh, and by the way, Clark didn't "attack" McCain's military service.


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The Obama campaign even said they were 'glad' that Gen. Clark 'clarified' a comment they supposedly repudiated.
Is that true? Makes me feel considerably better if so.

The huffing and puffing is a measure of how (rightly) threatened the McCain camp feels by this. They know that if his only claim to fame is successfully deflated as a qualification for president, he's toast.

Suggested response: "Blow me, you're hoping for a terrorist attack to help you get elected."

I like that response.

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This whole fake outrage could also be subtitled:

By the way, did you know McCain was a POW? Just in case, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT MORE!

But McCain never talks about it! I know that because Faux News told me so!

Let's keep this going. McCain isn't helping himself by comparing his military cred with that of Gen. Wes Clark.

The caravan has moved on and the dogs are still yelping.

the obama campaign as already "rejected" the original statement. By doing do, they've pretty much inoculated themselves from this type of criticism. Besides, Clark is a "grown ass man"! Obama can't make him "do" anything.

Wes Clark, big time in your face with the truth type man, who also was severely wounded. Let's hear about Clark's horrible injury if McCain wants to play this game. And compare Clark's executive qualifications to McCain's. This is getting downright funny :)

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Hey, EC, is this a presidential election in which you choose to lead a focus on the important issues, or is this EC's new ongoing soap opera in which we are supposed to hang our minds on the drama of back and forth tit-for-tats?

Precisely, it IS TPM EC.....and this story is part of the daily messaging of the campaign, the kind of bread and butter, down in the dirt politics we come here for!

Then why have we had ZERO front page stories on the fact that John McCain took credit for a GI Bill he opposed?

Another suggested response: "I strongly reject Gen. Clark's statements. The fact that Mr. McCain graduated at the bottom of his Naval Academy class and then went on to crash five American aircraft has no bearing upon his qualifications for the presidency (as far as I know). We owe only respect to our nation's former pilots, like Mr. McCain and President Bush."

LOVE. IT.

What is the source of this five aircraft wrecked info? I have read it before but have always been skeptical (maybe doubtful from a taxpayer's standpoint).

If this is true, Bob Shieffer should be informed that McCain's qualifications are even greater than Shieffer believes. McCain's ridden in at least five planes and crashed them all. Can anyone top those qualifications for President?

Sooner or later, many Americans are going to realize that while his POW status has been incredibly useful to John McCain (It's been his ticket to office, which his otherwise utterly mediocre career would never have been.) there is simply nothing else to the man whatsoever.

Thanks for calling them out on their bullshit, Greg.

This is the McCain strategy, try to take out Obama's advantage, which is his "new politics." They inject phrases into any discussion that middle america will take with them, regardless of whether or not they apply to the current argument. phrases like

"Will Barack Obama's actions ever match his words?"

"Empty talk of new politics"

"wink and nod game"

This is the republican's game and it has been for decades - take the advantage of the opponent and inject critical language hitting that advantage at every chance.

And PLEASE Obama campaign, do not once again go into the tirade of McCain's service to his country. Enough already, we know. Why keep patting him on the back as he sticks a knife in yours?

I think that his campaign statement yesterday was a good idea, but I agree that he should not repeat it today. One disavowal lets him look above the fray, but from here on out he should let Clark just keep doing his dirty work (in an admirably effective fashion, I might add).

He will do this, Amelie. It's scripted and it's intentional. He did it with Hillary, "She is a formidable opponent." It's a method of paying all due respect, without inflating your opponent's strengths. Watch. He will use the same phrase over and over again, when responding to questions about his opinion of McCain's service. It's a form of inoculation. And it will work.

Yep. You nailed it. Despite being all over the board for the last two months in their criticisms of Obama, I'm seeing the Republicans coalesce around this theme. That Obama is not what he says he is. That he's all talk and no action. I expect to be hearing this not only from the McCain camp, but from all his surrogates as well. It definitely seems to be the strategy they have settled on.

We'll have to see how well Obama can defend himself from it. Personally I don't think he has done too good a job in the last couple of weeks.

I totally agree with your about Obama's last two weeks. Very disappointing and disheartening.

I agree totally. Where is John Edwards when we need him?

Unfortunately, the real smart pols in Washington who helped us so much in 2000, 2002, and 2004 appear to be back in the saddle. Time to get out the immigrant info on New Zealand.

This press release reads like my nine year old granddaughter wrote it. Just stupid and inane. If this is the best they can throw, good for Wes Clark, and thank you to John McCain; by releasing this the media will play Clark's assertions over again, and Clark is absolutely correct.

As far as Obama, no worries. Clark did not do what this release says, and so once again the McCain camp is reduced to lying to throw another tantrum. I am sure Obama will make that crystal clear.

Have you seen the coverage about this in the media? There is nothing but McCain "POW/War Hero" crap being shown all over the place.

I'm glad to see that the McCain camp is over playing their hand but there was absolutely NO reason to bring this up and give the media the chance to play out the War Hero meme.

Robbie: I have, but this is the first day after. Remember the Wright thing, how horrible it seemed, and Obama just nailed that in the end?

As I mentioned last night, Clark has said this many times over many weeks, nothing new. McCain could have dropped it and maybe walk away smiling, but to bring it up again, the media will get to taking a longer look, and I suspect people like Kerry will back up General Clark.

Sorry, Robby.

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The McCain camp is soooooo bad at politics. They don't look like they're defending McCain; they look like they're whiners trying to manufacture an issue.

How can McCain call himself so tough when he whines so much? Sheez.

This is a lame response to people who know the issue, but to those who don't pay attention, all they hear is "empty talk of new politics" and "will Obama's actions ever match his words?" And then you will be talking to someone and hear them repeat those words. This is the republican game. Prepare also for the elitist tag that will be brought up as soon as they can.

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I suspect the McCain campaign is pushing this as hard as possible to inoculate themselves against future cases when McCain again says he is "unable to stop" actions by right-wing smear groups. I predict comparisons to Clark when that happens, followed by the media buying it hook, line, and sinker, and totally ignoring that it's a false comparison because McCain fails to denounce or disagree with the attacks.

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I think Obama's plan of not getting bogged down in this bullshit is good. Frankly, who gives a damn about a spat between Wes Clark and the McCain campaign. Not the average voter, that's for sure. Obama is out there coming up with policy proposals and whatnot (some of which I don't really like, such as the faith-based bullshit) that will actually effect people's lives.

Spending time on this nontrovercy is just a waste of time. Wes Clark should defend himself, but Obama shouldn't do anything beyond his simple statement.

Some part of the population is going to believe anything that Rush Limbaugh spouts, but nothing Obama could do could change those people's minds.

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Here is the thing: Clarke is correct; getting shot down and being a POW does not qualify you for the job of the President of the United States.

It's like saying, "I'm qualified to be President because I drove the Oscar Meyer Weiner mobile into Lake Michigan."

How totally F'n irrelevant! Okay, we get it McCain, you were a crappy pilot with a penchant for crashing planes. You never should have made pilot, and if not for your daddy and your grandpa you never would have. But because of your family ties you recieved "rich man's affirmative action" just like your policy twin; George W Bush. And like Dubya you are now trading on your past failures and saying they qualify you for the role as President.

If this kind of wink-and-nod game is how Barack Obama wants to run his campaign, then fine. But spare us the empty talk of 'new politics' and raising the dialogue in this country.

Can I just say that I am loving this spectacle. Yesterday I was confused about what was going on vis-a-vis Clark and Obama, but not today. Today it is becoming crystal clear that Obama and Clark are cooperating on a good cop/bad cop routine. Clark says something that eviscerates McCain's very political core and Obama tut-tuts it in a way that lets him look high minded and above the fray. But Clark does not just drive the knife in, he twists it again.

Of course the McCain camp is throwing a fit about this. Of course they are blaming Obama and calling him a hypocrite. He is a hypocrite in this situation, but an effective hypocrite. This is exactly what I want in a democratic candidate - someone who can bat his eyes like an angel even as he stabs you in the gut. You know what they call a candidate who can carry off this sort of two-step with one of his "independent" supporters: Mr President.

Well played Gen Clark and well played Sen Obama.

Amen to you, Missouri voter.

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Boy if there is one thing I'm tired of it's fake outrage. I'm tired of real outrage, too. Another day in campaign season, another fucked up "outrage."

Anyone besides me notice that every pundit out there has now decided that Obama is not a lefty, but is now too righty to satisfy the lefties? Bobo has Goldman Sachs taking over the entire country now via Obama. Which is why Bobo is a bobo.

Clueless fucking idiots.

Anyone besides me notice that every pundit out there has now decided that Obama is not a lefty, but is now too righty to satisfy the lefties?

Yes. And this is why he will win. I've seen so many comments about the Obama campaign not taking advantage of the early months when impressions are more readily made. But pushing out the "left-wing liberal senator" meme is the single most useful thing they could have done at the outset. Why are some of Obama's supporters troubled lately (aside from the fact that we all got to spend much more time than usual in the Democratic discourse-bubble of primaryland)? Because he's intentionally been highlighting less liberal positions for weeks now, really since the general "began" and he pissed people off with his remarks to AIPAC.

If the line on Obama becomes "he's really not that left," there's probably no way he can lose this thing. At one point, the "liberal" label looked like it was going to be the Republicans' core strategy. But he's taking that away from them right out of the gate. And talking about more liberal positions later in the election season will be much less problematic if he's already established his centrist credentials.

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That's all they've got...a noun, a verb, and POW.

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Wes Clark is winning this little battle. McCain is losing. When a voter watches the Clark sound bite more often than not he agrees with Clark. This is a fight McCain doesn't need to have. It hurts McCain right where he lives.

The longer McCain keeps this going the more voters are going to watch the Clark sound bite. The more voters are going to agree being a POW and a pilot doesn't qualify you to be President. They are going to ask what else has McCain done that might qualify him. His recent flip flopping to suck up to the far right of the Republican party is going to hurt any additional arguments he might have. Except for a handful of Republican dead enders America doesn't want 4 more years.

McCain's campaign is being run by out of touch corporate lobbyists and it shows.

I am shocked and delighted McCain's advisers decided to put out another message today. It allows the Democrats to control a discussion about McCain's qualifications to be President without creating a direct comparison between the candidates. I wonder if McCain is trying to lose.

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wonder if McCain is trying to lose.

Me too. It almost scares me that he's campaigning like this.

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One question, since McCain's military experience and time in the Senate doesn't give him the necessary "executive exrerience" to be President...what exactly qualifies Obama...? Just asking...anyone...?

I cannot answer for anyone else, but I would say that they are both running as rather unexperienced candidates. The consideration here should really be on who has the better ideas for the future, rather than who has the better track-record from the past, because neither has the sort of experience that would make him the obviously superior choice.

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I just thought it was interesting that Clark pointed out that McCain's time didn't provide him with the "war time command" as if a community relations guy in Chicago did get it...

Sure, I see the sense of what you are saying here. I would note, however, that Gen Clark was not making a positive case for Sen Obama's superiority in that quote. He was simply pointing out that Sen McCain possesses no obvious superiority in this respect.

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I don't no that "experience" is the winning issue though for Obama. Even if you said McCain's military experience is insignificant. Put the Senate records side by side and your guy loses too.

In case it is not clear, I am agreeing with you on this point. If we care to compare military service records or time spent in the Senate, clearly McCain comes out ahead. The point that Gen Clark is making (with which I largely agree) is that, while McCain beats Obama on these points, one might as well ask who has more wins under his belt on the basketball court.

One can spend a lifetime in the senate and still not be prepared to be president. One can be taken five times a prisoner by four different enemies and still not be well suited to serve as the chief executive of the American government. As such, McCain's experience, while admittedly more extensive than Obama's, is rather beside the point in the present contest.

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Did McCain set policy when he was in the military? No. Was he a General or an Admiral who planned out attacks? No. When you listen to General Clark's statements that is what he is saying.

Being shot down and becoming a POW is not experience that is needed to become President. It speeks volumes about McCain's character, granted, nobody is denying that.

SFC: Neither has "experience" in this arena, so I suspect we, as voters, have to go with sound proposals and more importantly, IQ. Obviously Obama is winning in that department. It is evident every time McCain opens his mouth.

Anyone who spent 5 years as a POW in Vietnam should be barred from public office. High chance of PTSD or other psychiatric disorders. Also, they should be banned from owning any firearms.

The funny thing is the way the McCain campaign is playing this is making him look weak and destroying his war hero image. A war hero? Can't take a little critcism? Are the poor war hero's feelings being hurt?

We're witnessing the "Swiftboating" of Wesley Clark, plain and simple...
Neutralize a military experienced,valor decorated, purple heart recipient,Vietnam hero/veteren, strong VP contender early.
They did it with Kerry. and with the press's help, again, they're doing it to Clark.

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More like Clark's swiftboating himself...

A classic Rovian tactic has always been not to just attack your opponents weaknesses but to attack his/her strengths. I guess if they don't defend their strengths well or quickly the strengths become weaknesses. I have no idea if the strategy would be successful for a democrat, but my first thought when McCain became the presumptive nominee was what would happen if democrats could find a way to start hammering him on national security and his military record, rather than hammering him on the obvious.

Yes, I know Clark did not "attack" him but that's how the media is going to run with it. Clark did the right thing and did not back down. I think McCain's sense of "How dare you!" could so consume him that continuing to bait/goad/prod with such criticism via surrogates could mine some unanticipated gold.

I could never do it, but I could never be in politics either. Then again, I could be full of it.

I was thinking the same thing, and thinking that's why McCain is so full of "outrage" about this. If the American public were to start asking reflecting on Clark's point instead of genuflecting at the mention of McCain's service, McCain's chief argument for electability would be undermined.

I hope that the O'bama campaign's learned its lesson about dealing with these people.

Gen W. Clark

Former Supreme Allied Commander (NATO)
Succefully ran the command in the Balkan operation, removing Slobodan Milosevic.
Operations had a beginning & end.

Sen.J. McCain

Former POW, shot down in 'Nam.
Spent 5years eating rice mixed with water.
Supported for an infinite war in Iraq.

If being captured and tortured during a time of war qualifies you to be the President of the United States, shouldn't we have more Guantanamo Bay prisoners running for office?

It's important to note that Gen Wes Clark originally made the statement that John McCain is "untested and untried" while he was a supporter of Hillary Clinton. At the time, he wasn't called out for making that statement, nor was there a demand for Clinton to reject his statement. And there certainly wasn't a three-day outcry by the Republican party.

Clark didn't raise the issue on Sunday's Face the Nation, rather Bob Schieffer decided to make it the topic of discussion.

Everyone together now...Awwwww, did someone hurt poor wittle John McSame's feewings? We're sowwy...

Jeez, get over it.

I loved watching McHail's Navy! Forgot all about that show.

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