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McCain Camp's Comparison Of Obama To Britney: Defining Him As Puffed-Up Dandy

The McCain campaign has launched their big push to define Obama -- they're hoping to define him in the public mind as a puffed-up dandy.

The McCain camp has a euphemism for this: "celebrity." But puffed up dandy is what they're really going for.

On a conference call with reporters just now, McCain campaign manager dug in and defended the new McCain ad deriding Obama as "the biggest celebrity in the world" and comparing him to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.

"What we decided to do was find the top three international celebrities in the world," Davis said. "And from our estimations, Britney and Paris came in second and third. From our perspective, we have in this ad the three biggest celebrities in the world."

"He has more fans around the world than Britney Spears does," Davis added.

The "celebrity" epithet is key to the contrast the McCain camp is trying to draw now: Obama is a "celebrity," while McCain is a "leader."

The McCain game plan is to cheapen the Obama movement and cast it as a substance-less flash-in-the-pan -- contrasting puffed-up and culturally out-of-touch Obama with stolid, down-to-earth, John Wayne-like McCain whose modesty belies his experience, leadership qualities, and of course, his war service.

"We see him more as a global leader than a global celebrity," Davis said of McCain.

Senior adviser Steve Schmidt later added: "Do the American people want to elect the biggest celebrity in the world, or do they want to elect an American hero?"

Davis also sought to feed the narrative of Obama as effete dandy with this: "I think there's an expectation that the American people, not the French president, will decide who the next president is going to be."

More soon.

Late Update: The Obama campaign responds:

"On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, 'Oops! He did it again.' Our dependence on foreign oil is one of the greatest challenges we face. In this election the American people have a real choice -- between Obama's plan to provide tax rebates to American families while creating a renewable energy economy in America that frees us from our dependence on foreign oil, and Senator McCain's plan to continue the same failed energy policies by handing out nearly $4 billion in tax breaks to oil companies while investing almost nothing in the new energy sources that represent our future," said Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Late Late Update: Obama himself responds.


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Obama camp came back with a good response, saying McCain came out with another false ad, or "Oops he did it again."

Take a look:

http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/obama-camp-finally-gets-response-right/

This ad was so stupid. Anything that potentially links McCain to Britney just makes him seem that much more like Bob Dole. Old Republican leering at trashy young woman is not a great look on a Presidential candidate.

The ad also had those black white overtones and John McCain is jut not going to get away with it. Plenty of black stars he could have been compared to but this subliminal message was well calculated to mimic the Harold Ford ad without having the guts to come right out and say what was on their minds. I am shocked that McCain stooped to this low and it totally changes my long standing respect for this guy who has tried to sell a load of crap that he was anything but a racist. McCain flunked out miserably on that sale as he has been doing so regularly. And to think I wrote in this guys name twice as a protest to the Bush incompetency that I knew so much about, having lived in Texas.

This is so ham-handed, and stupid, I am really amazed. Imagine the prospect of a potential future President being popular around the world. Be afraid, America. Be very afraid.

And it reveals who the McCain camp thinks are the biggest celebrities in the world: Britney and Paris Hilton? Geez guys, I don't think they've opened a copy of Us Weekly for a long time up on M Floor. My god they are out of touch!

Anyways...

Are there really any celebrities that are in the same universe as Obama? Maybe Bono? The Pope?

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Wasn't St. Ronnie a celebrity? And the governator?

What am I missing? What are they missing?

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He was a fucking Hollywood actor, for goodness' sakes. I mean, these people will tell you an apple is an orange and expect you to believe it. Sadly, many do.

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If you go by convictions and plea bargains the Reagan Administration was probably the most corrupt in the last 100 years.

He raised taxes more times than he cut them, he took us from being a creditor nation to being a debtor nation, and he was so stupid, he sent the perjurer Ollie North to Iran with a birthday cake and a frikkin Bible for Ayatollah Khomini.

In the Oval Office, Reagan told Yitzhak Shamir and Simon Wiesenthal, on two separate occasions, that he himself had assisted personally at the liberation of the Nazi death camps.

Reagan was an empty suit criminal that escaped prosecution.

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Ronnie had substance beyond the glitz. His suit wasn't empty.

Are you serious? How exactly does being a celebrity Hollywood actor prepare you for a career in politics and the presidency? You're comfortable on stage and can give a speech? You're good at lying?

Just wondering... You obviously think experience as a community organizer is irrelevant so i would like to hear your take on this one.

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i think you're wasting your time with this pod person. IOKIYAR. end of story.

A gentle reminder is in order: McCain's unemployed daughter hangs out with Heidi Montag and tried to get dad to arrange a trip for Heidi and Spencer Pratt to Iraq.

FIRST!

Response from Obama's camp (Quoted from The Page):

“On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, ‘Oops! He did it again.’“

Discuss.

THIRD! Sorry.

Here's my response to your discussion question: I believe the Obama press team spent last night reading Josh's classic treatise on the bitch-slap theory of electoral politics.

After concluding that McCain + Britney is even funnier than Obama + Britney, they decided to go all in.

Thanks to Josh Marshall. The attack ad had me scratching my head...uppity celebrity - I didn't know whether to snicker or yawn until Marshall pointed out the Call Me Harold connection.

I really don't think very often of oversexed white girls or any girls for that matter!

Went right between my legs

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I just saw it at lunch...it isn't very good...never would've taken "Puffed up Dandy" from it...now Ludacris' Obama rap did kind of make me think "Puff-Daddy."

Are you ever ashamed by your party? Or is it anything acceptable as long as they stick to their platform of raising taxes on your grandkids and pillaging the nation for the rich?

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McCain was my 4th choice when the primaries began. If you recall 4 years ago he was comtemplating switching parties and running with Kerry. I have never been a fan of McCain or his politics. That said he's head and shoulders above Obama...It's a lesser of 2 evils thing.

I'll take the bait. Please explain how he is HEAD and Shoulders above Obama.

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Of course that is just an opinion, however it is based on the following:
1. Energy policy
McCain- increase domestic supply, increase atomic energy, invest in future technologies. Obama- Windfall tax on Big oil (for those who haven't taken economics Price=Costs+Profit...tax raises costs which increase prices) invest in future technologies (suck up the higher gas prices until we invent something new).

2. Foreign Policy
McCain- US interests first, Obama- US interests as long as Europe and the UN doesn't mind.

3.Illegal Immigration
McCain- Enforce US immigration laws. Obama- Sanctuary cities are cool, drivers license for illegals, free heath care for illegals...

4. Experience
McCain-24 years in the Navy, 6 years in the House of Reps. 20 years in the Senate. Obama- Neighborhood watch commander 3 years, Law proffessor 12 years, elected to the Senate in 2004 and immediately proclaimed he lacked the experience necessary to run for President in 2008.

...that's just a few to get you started.

If that's the level of your thinking, how did you get past the E-5 board?

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Ok...your chance...name a substantial accomplishment of Sen. Obama (Sean Hannity does this everyday and it cracks me up).

Interesting list.

Let's take this one at a time:

1. Energy policy McCain- increase domestic supply, increase atomic energy, invest in future technologies. Obama- Windfall tax on Big oil (for those who haven't taken economics Price=Costs+Profit...tax raises costs which increase prices) invest in future technologies (suck up the higher gas prices until we invent something new).

So you ding Obama for a windfall tax, but don't ding McCain for the $4B tax cut, plus the laughable gas tax holiday (surely as a student of econ you recognize that it will have NO impact on pricing; just more money to oil companies). As for McCain's energy proposals, I have no confidence that he intends to do anything other than what President Bush has and is doing. Which has lead us to these astronomical prices.

2. Foreign Policy McCain- US interests first, Obama- US interests as long as Europe and the UN doesn't mind.

Besides his ads with the phrase "Country First", what do you base this on? As far as I can tell, Senator McCain is incapable of thinking strategically about America's national interest (e.g., his laughable suggestion to kick Russia out of the G-8). He has NO vision and a fundamental lack of understanding of the interplay between the various issues confronting us around the world.

3.Illegal Immigration McCain- Enforce US immigration laws. Obama- Sanctuary cities are cool, drivers license for illegals, free heath care for illegals...

I don't know what McCain believes on immigration. He's altered his position so much that I'm not sure HE knows.

4. Experience McCain-24 years in the Navy, 6 years in the House of Reps. 20 years in the Senate. Obama- Neighborhood watch commander 3 years, Law proffessor 12 years, elected to the Senate in 2004 and immediately proclaimed he lacked the experience necessary to run for President in 2008.

Fair point. McCain is older than Obama. I noticed that you didn't mention he was more knowledgeable or intelligent. Just that he's older.

I'm not sure how you get head and shoulders, but at least I have a better understanding of how you approach this (this isn't about McCain, this is about Obama).

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Obama accomplishments still at zero...

I notice you changed the subject, and you can skip unseemly haste, some of us have less than total freedom to sit in front of the computer all day.

But seeing as how you do, go read this in context, and be sure to run down the footnotes where you can read the original material:

ILLINOIS:

Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws. He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare. In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures,and in 2003, Obama sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.

WASHINGTON:

Partnering with Republican Senators Richard Lugar of Indiana and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama successfully introduced two initiatives bearing his name. "Lugar–Obama" expanded the Nunn–Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles and anti-personnel mines. The "Coburn–Obama Transparency Act" authorized the establishment of www.USAspending.gov, a web search engine launched in December 2007 and run by the Office of Management and Budget. After Illinois residents complained of waste water contamination by a neighboring nuclear plant, Obama sponsored legislation requiring plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks. A compromise version of the bill was subsequently blocked by partisan disputes and later reintroduced. In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Interesting that you would reference a chump that writes a book found in a terrorist's library:

"Still seized three books from Adkisson's home, including "The O'Reilly Factor," by television commentator Bill O'Reilly; "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder," by radio personality Michael Savage; and "Let Freedom Ring," by political pundit Sean Hannity." (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/29/suspects-note-cites-liberal-movement-church-attack/)

Wonder if he also posted on LGS (little green sh.tballs).

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OMG!!! I own all of those books!!! Does that mean I'm a terrorist?!? Snap out of it Bob.

Could be. I've been conditioned to be on the lookout for terrorists everywhere. We're in condition Orange, you know. And the books one reads may be a pattern here.

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"OMG!!! I own all of those books!!!"

You just legitimized all of the negative comments thrown at you. I knew we were right, thanks.

Here's an accomplishment for you: Not being a Cold War relic, whose proposed foreign policy proposals have been laughed out of the room by nearly all of Reagan & Bush Sr's former advisers: You know, the guys all the Republicans give credit to for defeating the Soviet Union.

I'll take a chance on a somewhat unknown quantity in Senator Obama, than a more-or-less guaranteed disaster of McCain. The douche bag is running to the right of Bush on foreign policy and now supports all the liberty crushing policies enacted by Bush & CO.

I wonder what POW McCain would say to modern day McCain about this. Me thinks this is not what POW McCain thought he was defending back in Vietnam. Then again; may he liked his cage so much he figures a lot of Americans would like to spend some time there with no recourse to challenge it.

PS- You don't get to call yourself an American any more. That designation is for people who actually support liberty, not the neo-authoritarians who now inhabit the Republican Party. We fought a revolution precisely to break away from you pricks.

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You don't believe any of that tripe, do you?

If so you are too ignorant for TPM, please go back to Little Green Footballs, they are more your mental capicity.

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Still waiting for the Obama list...

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Not that you really care about an actual answer to your questions, but for the record, here is a pretty substantial list - copied from Democratic Underground in February

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4678548


But I don't expect that facts are going to get in the way of a someone who is simply try to pick arguments by mindlessly repeating the latest talking points disseminated to the sorry remnants of Bush supporters around the country who are looking to continue the policies of that regime for another 4 or 8 years.

And remind me again, why do you hate the troops?
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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:

** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountabi...


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.ht...

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /

Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

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Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

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"Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills" He's been in the Senate for 1600 days (counting weekends and holidays)that's about 1.8 days per bill...He must be the Messiah...or your numbers are off...I will give you the "Congo" thing though...so his list of accomplisments is:
1. Developed skill set
2. The "Congo" bill
I'll throw in...
3. Sponsored a bill to cap troop levels (below the levels that led to McCain's successful surge)in Iraq.

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You do like the sound of your own voice quite a bit, don't you?

So why do you hate the troops?

You do realize that your characterization of sen. Obama's accomplishments are patently FALSE, don't you? Because if you really want to know what he has done in his 46+ yeas of life I'll be more than happy to disabuse you of your lack of knowledge about him.

1)I do realize that tackling social challenges at the community level may not seem glamorous to you compared to you but it does develop very critical grassroots problem solving skills. These skill sets are exactly what you see in the precision of his planning and execution of this campaign.

2) Sen. Obama served 7 years as a senator in the Illinois legislature. I realize you omitted that from your litany. Do you believe being a state legislator is insignificant in developing critical skills related to governance?

3)Being a professor of constitutional law at one of the top law schools in the country is a testament to his intellectual acumen that he honed while a student at Havard Law School following an undergraduate degree in international relations at Columbia. Certainly that beats the resume of someone who advanced through the naval academy simply because of legacy affirmative action.

4) John McCain served his country in the military during the Vietnam war and suffered as a POW. I respect that service. it would help if you respected Senator Obama's accomplishments rather than deride him as a neighborhood commander. You betray your small-mindedness. You seem to hold it against him that he was born in the era that he was. I too was born in the 1960s and do not think that the experiences of our generation should be subordinated to those of a previous generation. Or else how do we move history forward?

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So I add to his list: Developed skill set...

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2 and 3 were done simultainiously so they were both part time gigs.

An outline of Obama's Progressive Market-based Energy Policy, rather than what you retrieved from your spam filter:

Don't take actions that distort market signals that cause consumer behavior to change. (See this week's decline in gas prices due to lower consumption.) Eliminate energy market distortions like tax credits for domestic oil production that artificially disguise the true costs of production (this is not a "windfall" tax). Price negative externalities of energy and fuel production so it reflects their true cost. Provide one-off rebates to those least able to afford to change their behavior to cushion the blow.

When you stop incentivizing oil dependance, consumers will make better decisions because market signals are no longer distorted, creative perverse incentives. Energy efficiency and alternatives become more attractive and leave the market to sort out the technologies. Stop gumming up the market with political power.

Obama is Chicago New-School. McCain is nothing.

You obviously don't get that.

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"I'll make oil companies like Exxon pay a tax on their windfall profits, and we'll use the money to help families pay for their skyrocketing energy costs and other bills,"
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSWAT00963020080609
In his own words...

@ BO.com there's this:

End Oil and Gas Industry Tax Breaks: Obama has called for repealing the oil and gas industry tax breaks that President Bush himself has said himself are unnecessary given today’s strong market incentive for expanding exploration and production.

What you're missing:

The windfall profits tax is a bait and swith. I'm sure Obama's advisors are smart enough to assume that oil companies will just pass on the cost to consumers. The reality is that this is the only viable way of increasing taxes on oil when it's already expensive in order to reinforce market incentives to change behavior. This is the same as proposing to increase the fuel-tax, just more politically acceptable. The reality is that it's brilliant market based solution in populist clothing. The money goes back to those least able to change their behavior quickly, rather than being used to create market distorting incentives that subsidize wealthy drivers of gas-guzzling autos.

You might as well give up. Obama and his campaign are smarter than you and his policies are more market-based than those of your incompetant market-interventionist party and economically-illiterate candidate. Many of the folks around here don't know it yet and you don't know it, but Obama is Chicago new-school. Stephen Levitt's dream come true.

From BO.com "Obama supports imposing a windfall profits penalty on oil selling at or over $80 per barrel."

This is the key sentence - Obama is talking about taxing oil sales, not oil company profits. it's a fuel tax increase, just further up the food chain.

One of your own party's mantra goes "if you want less of something, tax it more".. Well, we'd like less oil above $80 a barrel thanks. The only way to create that reality it through using the market to reduce consumption and provide alternatives.

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McCain- Enforce US immigration laws.

that is to say, spaghetti-spined McCain no longer supports the McCain legislation. there's some consistency for ya.

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True...after we called him on it and his numbers dropped off of the scale he came to the realization that his former stance on illegal immigration was untenable and not in the best interest of the country.

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flippity-floppity-floo! just like on the tax cuts. i detect a pattern.

SFCWALLACE TROLL ALERT!!! Chimpeach would you please do TPM readers a big service and fling some dung at SFCWallace. Second thought, he might enjoy it.

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"American hero."

There is no more doubt, McCain is running on his POW experience, period.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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Worked for Dole!

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Dole wasn't a POW, he was a disabled veteran.

Dole wasn't a POW, he was a disabled veteran.

So you are saying Dole was not an American Hero???

Why do you hate our military so much?

IIRC, Dole was wounded trying to get some other wounded GI out of the fire.

Because heroes are people who do things, not people to who things happen, Dole was a hero.

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My sentiments exactly.

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No the conversation went like this:
"There is no more doubt, McCain is running on his POW experience, period."

"Worked for Dole!"

"Dole wasn't a POW, he was a disabled veteran."

You took an innocuous statement and turned it (falsely) into an attack on the subject of the conversation as well as the one who made the statement. This works well against the unsuspecting, especially with the "racism" tag that any who question the "Messiah" get hit with, but having posted here for more than 6 or 7 years now, I've grown immune. Nice try though.

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Are you so humourless that you don't understand that asking "why do you hate the troops?" is nothing but snark? And a pretty good parody of the kind of misleading attacks coming from the McCain campaign these days to boot....

"You took an innocuous statement and turned it (falsely) into an attack on the subject of the conversation as well as the one who made the statement."...

The poster must be taking lessons from the McCain campaign -- false attacks seem to be their specialty these these days -- you know, like seeing that Obama followed Pentagon regulations about visiting the wounded, and then issued an bogus attack claiming he wouldn't go without cameras and doesn't care about the troops; or maybe attacking Obama for taking a foreign trip before being elected President - when McCain has taken campaign trips to every one of the countries Obama visited; or claiming that Obama might be a socialist; or that Maliki's agreement with Obama's Iraq policy doesn't mean anything because Obama is naive and wants America to lose for political purposes; the list of disgusting, false, Rovian attacks just keeps growing.

I hope you're proud of the campaign McCain is running.

And why do you hate the troops?


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"Obama followed Pentagon regulations about visiting the wounded..." This is your tactic...insert falsehood with truth and hope it isn't detected. Pentagon policy states campaigning at the hospital was not permitted. Obama still could have visited, it just couldn't be a campaign event. His poor judgment led to the controversy. All he had to do was leave the campaign team and cameras behind and visit and the press team would have been writing about his compassion with tears in there eyes as they watched him walk away from them across the tarmac.

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drop the Republican talking points for a minute would you -- or are you simply determined to prove my point?

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Boy, is that shallow thinking! There are high school drop outs that can use critical thinking skills better than that. Some are born with a natural ability, some learn it in high school or college and some just can't or don't learn. You, I'm afraid are among the latter. Where is your evidence that backs up your reasoning?

As did his Britney love.

Trying to link Obama to young white women. Classy.

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Ha, didn't think about that. But really, who haven't Britney Spears and Paris Hilton been linked with?

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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See, that's the sort of over the top thinking that gets you guys "NutJob" status. That commercial has no "racial undertones." You invent racism where it doesn't exist in order to prop your guy up, and try to make any criticism (even stupid ones like this) into a racial attack.

Totally agree with you on this one. This is about painting Obama as vapid/shallow.

The commercial definitely has racial undertones. Why not black female celeb's? The black man is mixing it up with white women!!

In the not so distant past in America, mostly the south, blacks were lynched for consorting with white women. Racism is still alive and well in many parts of America and it is a useful tool for corrupt politicians like McCain.

SFC - how about a list of positive things Bush has done to improve your life in Georgia? Please exclude stuff like 'he prevented another 9/11' (one on Bush's watch was enough).

SFC Challenge: Exactly how did removing Saddam make your life better?

I take it 'getting Saddam' did not result in any improvement or increase in freedom in the life of SFC Wallace or within the great state of Georgia?

Still waiting for the list SFC Wallace, what positive action did Bush do for you and Georgia? How did your life improve the day we 'got Saddam'??

Add to that the readiness McCain's handlers have to show Obama with a basketball in his hands. It's part of the same fecal slime cocktail the Republicans try to come up with every election.

Except people increasingly realize, THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE GOT.

Hey, did you know Obama is black?

Not much of an effort though if you have to explain what you mean.


Doddering old fool John McSame v. the dashing Change Celebrity

Nixon - Kennedy

Except Nixon was Obama's age

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...and Kennedy had actually accomplished a thing or two by then.

Like what?

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He served 4 years in the Navy, 3 terms in the House and 2 in the Senate. During his time in the Senate he was famous (or infamous) for bucking his party and voting against its interests. (Sounds more like McCain then your guy).

Right. He had a book or two ghost-written, his family money had gotten him elected, and most of all he allowed his PT boat to be cut in half by a Japanese destroyer.

Global leader? What?

What? He is all over the situation on the Pakistan-Iraq Border, and has been vital to keeping the damned Reds out of Czechoslovakia.

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Somebody in the McCain campaign has decided that even though McCain can't win, Obama might lose. The technical problem with going so negative so early is that it drives McCain's negatives as well as Obama's. Obama has time to overcome the negatives, but there is no telling how badly McCain might be damaged if he is viewed as an old coot.

Are you kidding? He wrote the book on old coot.

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Most folks haven't realized he is an old coot yet. They will if he keeps his negative campaign going. Once it is firmly established in the minds of the majority of voters, there is a damn good chance they won't vote for him. They might not vote for Obama, but they won't get off the couch in November. In that situation Obama, having introduced himself as having substance in addition to celebrity, will win in a walk.

Those running McCain's campaign don't care about his legacy. They are the same people who trashed him in 2000 primary.

You hit it. Good editorial in today's NYT on disciples of Rove now on the McCain team. It's gonna get slimier and even more divisive than the last two elections. Smell the fetid desperation of those trying to hold on to their ill gotten gains from the Bush years. I am losing respect for McCain and could never vote for him regardless of his prior service. He has jumped into the cesspool with both feet.

Living in Texas and sadly exposed to almost 15 years of the Bush/Rove Show, it looks like a classic Rove tactic, ridicule with a dash of "dog whistle" racism thrown in.

It's not very good, maybe Carl's off his game, maybe his contempt citation has him off.

Senior adviser Steve Schmidt later added: "Do the American people want to elect the biggest celebrity in the world, or do they want to elect an American hero?

Wasn't McCain "an American hero" when Bush and Rove destroyed him with lies and smears in South Carolina? Wasn't John Kerry an American Hero when Bush and his Swiftboaters used his military experience against him? Isn't Steve Schmidt a Rove Acolyte and thus probably worked on one of not both of those campaigns where the Military man was demonized for his service (McCain a crackpot due to his time as a POW and Kerry a lying traitor)?

Greg, Eric, why are you being so charitable.

They're trying to paint Obama as a "puffed up dandy"?

Er, no. They're trying to paint him as an uppity Negro who wants to fuck your sister.

Here's the first draft of the ad.

That would only happen if the media criticized McCain for his actions like they did Hillary. That's not going to be the case when it comes to Maverick McCain.

I hope the Obama campaign doesn't plan on defending themselves with press releases from now through November.

So what is McCain: The Elephant Man with that strange growth on the side of his face? Wilfred Brimley? Grampa Munster? Grampa Simpson? He's the crazy old guy who used to sit around mumbling and yelling at us to get out of his yard when we would walk down the sidewalk passing his house.

I loved that RNC David Hasselhoff video. It was so stupid and funny that it reflected how dopey they are and how out of it they really are.

McCain's angry, bitter, confused, out of touch, losing it.

You know it's boards like us here who probably fuel these ads getting picked up by MSM. They realize it's news and people will watch.

"Puffed-up dandy" is just a euphenism for "uppity n*****". That's the real message.

John Wayne McCain... very apt!

Word associatons

Britney Spears - Barack Obama?

not me

First thing that comes to my mind - Chris Crocker

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3270918801642081044&q=britney+spears&ei=r6KQSOzXMqeQqwPt1KjBCA


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Thank you for sharing this fabulous, well-circulated video that I'd never seen before. Required viewing, indeed.

Behold, the upshot of MSM coverage that reduces meaningful political conflicts to bathetic interpersonal disputes.

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McCain as the 'love-child' of Grandpa Simpson and Mr. Burns . . .

The McSame standard applied.

This argument is flat-out stupid, silly season is here once again and Britney is along for the ride.

Stupidity- the MSM loves it!

How long before Paris and Britney are asked for a response.

A few ways the ad fails:

1. It's petty

2. Many people think Obama's popularity is a GOOD thing (since when is being a crabby, bitter, old man a requirement for prez?). This ad reinforces that image.

3. Offshore drilling is not popular in a lot of coastal states.

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on #2-- Obama's popularity is the scariest thing of all.

If he actually has support, and isn't just the least bad choice, people might actually listen to him. and worst of all, he might actually get things done!

I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Effective government kills a lot of gop arguments for their election. were universal health care to actually pass, it's likely we'll see the gop in doghouse for decades, because it would be such a game-changer by seeing govt actually work in a positive way. keep it weak, keep it competitive. show results and we're in a whole new world.

I also love how the McCain campaign likes to make fun of allies like the French (the snide remark above and the luggage tags) and the Germans (Hasselhoff video) but then profess McCain has the foreign affairs chops.

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I love the Obama team's response: "Oops! He did it again."

http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/30/oh-baby-baby-obama-fires-back/

Yeah. That's how you play this game. The press is going to eat up this kind of crap. There's no point fighting the media's appetite for vacuous fluff -- it's immeasurable. Instead, you just write their headline for them.

This is straight out of Karl's mouth -- Obama's the guy at the country club with the beautiful date-who's-not-his-wife.

Rove lives...but only until Election Day.

I guess it was a bad thing having Kennedy as one of the most beloved presidents...I guess it was a bad thing having Clinton as a beloved president around the world...

I guess what we need is more people who the world hates because we are the US. (Ultimate Shits). Smart McCain.

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Of course, what is Obama famous for? He is famous for his politics and run for the Presidency. McCain on the other hand was a "war hero celebrity" and leveraged that to run for Congress. So who has had celebrity advantage and who has had to introduce himself to the nation?

If Obama is Britney, then I guess McCain is Mickey Rooney....

Awesome analogy, Publicola! lol!

Didn't Britney supported Bush once?

The clip is on "Farenheit 9/11".

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"Oops! He did it again." -- a fine response, but immediately followed by a sentence of no less than 74 words.

Unless the Obama campaign shortens its swing and learns where vital organs are, they'll flail their own hopes away.

McCain-Rove have put the killer meme on the table: nastiness, confusion, serial lying. Let's grab it & make them digest it.

The McCain camp is getting a ton of free air time for these "ads" though. They're clearly thinking that if they run malicious/false/outrageous ads, the media will just eat them up and air them constantly. So far they are right.

On its own, it's a stupid ad. But coupled with all the other attacks of late, it's dangerous to Obama. McCain's people clearly believe the McCain brand is so strong it can survive a super-negative campaign. Hoping it won't isn't enough of a strategy. Nor is pointing out the deceits to the press. Obama needs to launch some hard-hitting attack ads of his own. He has an opportunity to turn McCain into a mean, deceitful old man. He needs to jump at it.

What I see is a positive message about Obama. The shots show Obama looking young, fresh, handsome, and the cheering crowd is a terrific background. The McCain camp is building him up, in my opinion. I see why people are upset by the Britney/Paris comparison, but I don't believe the McCain camp makes the point well enough.

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"On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, 'Oops! He did it again.' Our dependence on foreign oil is one of the greatest challenges we face. In this election the American people have a real choice -- between Obama's plan to provide tax rebates to American families while creating a renewable energy economy in America that frees us from our dependence on foreign oil, and Senator McCain's plan to continue the same failed energy policies by handing out nearly $4 billion in tax breaks to oil companies while investing almost nothing in the new energy sources that represent our future," said Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Good start but you COMPLETELY blow the punchline.. with incomprehensible run on sentences.

Watch how you should do it.

"On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, 'Oops! He did it again.'

Instead of obsessing about Hollywood, Obama is trying to end our dependence on foreign oil

Obama will provide tax rebates to American families.

Obama will create build our economy using energy economy. Renewable energy will free us from our dependence on foreign oil.

Senator McCain's plan just keeps handing out nearly $4 billion in tax breaks to oil companies.

Senator McCain invests almost nothing in the new energy sources that represent our future,

It's time Senator McCain stopped thinking about Hollywood, and started thinking about America's energy future.

DID NOT SAY Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

But if he was any kind of campaign spokesman, he damn well should have said it that way.

No compound sentences, a consistent narrative throughout, throw the meme back in their face instead of just trying to change the subject.

I mean come on. Do they have professionals at the Obama campaign? They better get some fast.

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Word.

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"Oops, McCain is a lying fuckin' bastard, again" would have been a great response too!

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Oops... a mistake... here's what I meant "renewable energy.." not "energy economy"

"On a day when major news organizations across the country are taking Senator McCain to task for a steady stream of false, negative attacks, his campaign has launched yet another. Or, as some might say, 'Oops! He did it again.'

While McCain obsesses about Hollywood, Obama is trying to end our dependence on foreign oil

Obama will provide tax rebates to American families.

Obama will create build our economy using RENEWABLE energy.

Renewable energy will free us from our dependence on foreign oil.

Senator McCain's plan just keeps handing out nearly $4 billion in tax breaks to oil companies.

Senator McCain invests almost nothing in the new energy sources that represent our future,

It's time Senator McCain stopped thinking about Hollywood, and started thinking about America's energy future.

Aren't we missing another bigger point? Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are sooooo 2006. Once again, McE! is out of touch with reality...next time use miley cyrus or whoever else is on the cover of Us magazine

Gotta give him credit, McCain's last reference to pop culture was a 1962 James Bond movie.

Exactly what I was thinking, Britney and Paris are not exactly the #2 and #3 celebs in the world. They do both look like younger versions of Cindy McCain though, Paris is an heiress like Cindy, and Britney is a drug addict like Cindy.

Hmmm, maybe there is a connection here.

John McCain...the uber-rich, dirty, old, white man at the retirement home who wants to bang your granddaughter. Hell, Medicare paid for his Viagra, but she'll likely get pregnant as there is no coverage for her birth control and abortions will be illegal.

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In reply to both Ingiro and GoodStuff:

Everyone with a television knows that Brit and Paris are old news, but they are both almost universally reviled for their spoiled and shallow behavior. That is their value in this ad.

(That and the Mandingo/white girl thing.)

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wonder how paris hilton feels about the elimination of the estate tax. and yes, britney once implored the american people to trust commander codpiece.

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There's the other part of this call that's important: the statement about American's not wanting the French president pick our president.

Francophobia rears its ugly head, again.

It's not just Francophobia, it's a new kind of "global leadership": where the world doesn't really matter.

You know, McCain has his own shallow celebrity: Heidi Montag.

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And don't forget his role in "Wedding Crashers"...who's the celebrity here?

He was also on "24". Very brief cameo.

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wonder how paris hilton feels about the elimination of the estate tax. and yes, britney once implored the american people to trust commander codpiece.

I'm starting to see shades of the attack that was done to Harold Ford.............

I don't understand why TPM is always so quick to post these McCain attack ads. It's not as if the 24hour news culture wont mention these ads hundreds of times. Why give McCain one more free source to get his negative message out?

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Rove. They're using one of his greatest strengths. But this is an old tactic right? The Obama campaign should be all ready to fight back on stuff like this right? No surprises, right?

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They're using one of his greatest strengths against him is what I meant to say.

And the problem with calling Obama a vacuous, manufactured celebrity would be... what, exactly? Other than the truth, that is....


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And the problem with calling Obama a vacuous, manufactured celebrity would be... what, exactly? Other than the truth, that is....

Well, for starters, it bears no resemblance to reality. And, you need to find out what big words like "truth" mean before you start flinging them about.

Seven and a half years of a bumbling idiot in the White House and you're not satisfied? You want a senile bumbling idiot now?

...want a bumbling idiot...?

Not at all - McCain would very literally be the equivalent of a Bush third term. I'll be holding my nose and voting for Obama, if only because he is not Bush or McCain. That does not mean Obama is in any way qualified for the job, which he certainly isn't. It only means he isn't McSame.

Obama is 100% a manufactured celebrity, no different that Britney or Miley or Paris or the latest "name" from American Idol. I know this is a surprise to you children, but "media frenzy" and "qualified to lead the Free World" are not one and the same.

What is the truth?

Wasn't it Britney Spears who, in that famous interview, said that we should all just trust in President Bush absolutely and believe everything he says?

Wow. Talk about a picture perfect opportunity for Obama to turn the tables and once again tie McCain to Bush.

So, a legal question: can McCain use the image of Britney and Paris to smear Obama?

He has no association with these private citizens, and the commercial is smearing them as much as Obama.

I was wondering the same thing.
I could be wrong, but I think they need permission to use others in political ads.

Since this is a Mccain ad, the implication is that Paris and Britney also 'approve the message'.

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not legally -- once someone is a famous public figure, the fair use of their image is interpreted pretty broadly as the right to comment on a public figure ... you couldn't falsely claim they were endorsing a candidate (and a for profit company can't use their image without consent). But political speech is protected much more strongly than a celebrity's image rights

(And think about it, if it required permission, how could a campaign run an image of their opponent in ads?)

Maybe the pushback is "today's news" vs. "yesterday's news?"

The McCainiacs are obviously suffering from a bad case of media envy. Or maybe they are trying to get people thinking Obama has gotten too uppity.

The sad part that McCain's camp doesn't want to recognize is that the only reason Obama is greeted overseas as a liberator (apologies to Bill Kristol) is that the world is hungry for American leadership that is rational, multilateral and cooperative. The more John McCain moves to embrace Bush policies, the smaller he becomes in the eyes of the world.

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I think it is

"McCain is obsessed with Hollywood celebrities, while Obama is focused on solving America's problems."

Plus a picture of him with his wife, who, notably is not a youngish white woman... because this is all about stirring up "black man / white woman" thoughts... playing to the lowest level of bigotry.

Don't doubt it for a second.

I think it is smart. For a job as important as POTUS, this celebrity thing is scary. I hope people wake up and realize that Obama has to do more than give a well written and read speech, if he becomes president.

CNN Political Editor called the ad "a desperate call for attention" (basically). Expects more nasty ads from the McCain campaign and from 527s.


Who produced this ad ???

recall in 10/06 McCain hired Terry Nelson (the racist 'call me' ads against Harold Ford)

his firm employs Cris LaCivita who produced the 04 Swiftboat ads

Nelson was DeLay's middleman in the TRMPAC money laundering scheme

http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/10/mccains_double-.php

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If the oil companies raised their prices to offset the windfall profits tax, but retained the same profit margin, why would they not still be subject to the aforementioned tax?

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(Actually, I misplaced this post. It was supposed to be a reply to SFCWallace's list of McCain positives and Obama negatives.)

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Good god, something reeks! What is that stench?

It kind of smells like desperation, but I've never seen it get that rancid before. It's either that or Grampy McSame needs to have his Depends changed.

Way past time for bloggers and surrogates - NOT Obama - to start repeating all the evidence that McCain is even less of a hero than Smirky is.

Bottom of his Annapolis class, crashed at least three multi-million-dollar planes in training exercises, cheated on and abandoned his loyal first wife because she was disabled in an accident, keeps his finances separate from Cindy's so he doesn't have to pay his wife decent maintenance, has been a paid-for shill of corporate criminals for almost thirty years, lies about everything, etc., etc., etc.

For details, check out Glenn Greenwald's new book, Great American Hypocrites.

And specifically in retaliation for the n****r-wants-to-rape-your-daughter crap, throw in the rumors about how he cooperated with the Viet Cong to protect his own ass.

...n****r-wants-to-rape-your-daughter...

In other words, KY Jelly Dog has nothing intelligent to say so he whips out the race card in a desperate attempt to belong to the fan club.

News flash, KY Jelly Dog - nobody called anybody a "n****r" as you so coyly put it, and nobody's raping your daughter. Assuming, of course, that's not some secret confessional fantasy of your own.

If you'd spend a little more effort finding real fault with this dumb-ass ad of McSame's, and a little less effort manufacturing bullshit racial innuendo you could actually add some substance to Obama's little fan club.

I usually don't jump on the anti-Obama campaign bandwagon, but I do think they need to hammer on the theme that "John McCain is running a negative campaign". Just make sure they say those words in every appearance.

It takes away a major asset of McCain, but only if people start to associate McCain with negative ads.

Ditto

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Not just "John McCain is running a negative campaign" (although that is an important message to get out there and as you point out it takes away a major degree of glitter from the "maverick" McCain.)

But in addition to "negative" it is equally important to point out repeatedly that the attacks are false, that McCain is lying over and over again in his attempts to smear Obama. The idea of "straight talk" John McCain intentionally and repeatedly telling lies about Obama (from the reason he didn't visit the troops to his alleged desire to "lose" in Iraq to telling lies about his energy policy etc...) will help the public understand that the man many of us once thought was a decent and trustworthy public servant is, in fact, little more than another power hungry politician willing to say and do just about anything to achieve his life long goal of being elected President.

"We see him more as a global leader than a global celebrity," Davis said of McCain.


That's funny, I see him as an old, out-of-touch liar who has completely wasted and emptied the goodwill he had built up with independents like me by basically becoming what shit all over him in 2000: W's campaign, in style and substance (or lack thereof).


I think the point the intention of McCain et al is to prevent Obama from using the world trip images in their own ads. The intent is to blunt their potency by creating these associations of frivolity with the trip. Of course there is also the low-intensity dog whistling etc. That is the only way that this ad makes sense to me. If Obama tries to use them to show his plans to restore US leadership in the world, the benefit of strategic alliances with allies, the water is being muddied now.

Funny that he would pick a has-been like Britney. They are so out of touch, they don't even realize she is not boxoffice anymore. Or maybe it's a signal that he thinks ex-drug addict women are always in style!

That's not even a remotely accurate description of Obama's policy proposals. You need to go to his web site and actually read them, rather than basing your comments upon the GOP's twisted intepretation.

OMG obama u r exacly lik Britny Sperz! LOL ROFL ROFLMAO

Never mind Obama, he can take care of himself. But poor Britney... what did she do to deserve this? Say what you will about week-long benders with skeevy backup dancers while her kids played with electrical outlets, but she never, ever sank so low as to be fair game for a McCain political ad.

this is worrisome. As stupid as this ad is, McCain's numbers having been tracking up, ever since he started using Rove as his advisor.

While Obama's response to the ad is a good one, it's looking like he, and/or his surrogates are going to have to start hammering away at McCain, to bring his numbers down. It's risky, but the down side of not doing so is that Obama will end up like Kerry and Gore, honorable candidates who were punked.

Right now, for all of his incompetence, childish ad campaigns and regressive policies, McCain is still the media favorite. Obama has to figure out to at least get them to be more neutral.

This line of attack is bizarre considering that in the last two years, Britney Spears has ceased to be identified with 'puffy' pop celebrity due to her very public downward spiral into bipolar disorder. In fact, only a day or two ago, most news outlets reported that she had lost custody of her two sons due to her unpredictable and dangerous behavior over the past year before she was hospitalized. I don't know what this misuse of pop culture symbolism means for the analogy being drawn by the McCain campaign except that it shows they have no consciousness of what is going on in celeb news, which is consumed at vastly higher rates by Americans than any other type of news.

They are playing to the same people who go to Philip Morris to quit smoking and who only get drunk on lite beer because they're on a diet.

Every sign of increasing desperation just warms my heart.

Man, it must suck to sacrific your character, principles and integrity for the gop nomination.

McCain should be embarrassed of what he's become. But then again - he's just another C- legacy admission that had opportunties because of family connections rather than intelligence and ability.

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I smell an Olbermann special comment coming.

Alternatively you have Obama as Ludicris:

"Hillary hated on you, so that bitch is irrelevant," say the lyrics. "McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped."

The song also celebrates Obama's rise.

"The first black president is destined and it's meant to be," go the lyrics, calling on voters to "paint the White House black.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Obama_camp_condemns_song_Ludacris_should_be_ashamed.html

This will play well with those suspicious of Obama's "real agenda".

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Dude, you link to a post in which Obama condems the song! Does it hurt to be that stupid?

Condemnation is irrelevant.

It feeds the suspicion of many.

And, it forces him to comment.

Score:
McCain +2
Obama: -2

Feeds the suspicion of many? Feeds what suspicion exactly? It's not a song by Obama is it? Did he write it? Did he endorse Ludacris? Is Obama kicking the verses, did I miss that?
Is Ludacris on the payroll of the campaign?

The stupid, it hurts to witness. Then again, the McCain 'supporters' have NOTHING, absolutely nothing else in their shrinking bag of slime to throw, so they have to resort to this, and that's just hysterical.


You have no insight into the human condition.

Well you have me there I guess. I know nothing of crotchety impotent bitter old white men who sit in their Depends who watch Fake News excoriating the evil 'libruls' of the world who then bring shotguns into churches to kill people because liberalism is the fault of everything wrong in our society.

Alternatively you have Obama as Ludicris:

Hillary hated on you, so that bitch is irrelevant," say the lyrics. "McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped."

The song also celebrates Obama's rise.

"The first black president is destined and it's meant to be," go the lyrics, calling on voters to "paint the White House black.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Obama_camp_condemns_song_Ludacris_should_be_ashamed.html

This will play well with those suspicious of Obama's "real agenda".

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Heard you the first time.

Gotta get the html right. Don't want any....misunderstandings.

So in wingutland, if some third rate MC writes a third rate song about Obama, that clearly means Obama helped write the song and gave it his thumbs up 100% while Ludacris was in the studio too?

Hate to say it, dude, but that's pretty much it. (Obligatory "I-can't-stand-Obama" comment here...) but Obama's campaign has GOT to get out ahead of this stuff.

Obama sucks, but he's what we're stuck with if we don't want Bush III. More snark, more zing, more one-liners, less defensiveness, less explaining.... The last thing this country needs is another Kerry campaign.

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Sorry, but when the McCain campaign starts talking about Britney Spears, my brain immediately starts thinking about Britney and a certain other very old Republican senator/war veteran/presidential candidate - Bob Dole...

I actually kind of want to see the Obama campaign simply respond by putting the Dole/Spears Pepsi commercial on continuous loop... especially the priceless/creepy scene where, as soon as Dole sees Spears, the screen switches to a shot of a Pepsi bottle ejaculating...."settle down boy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8uNG02ixA

And if that doesn't make the point enough, there is also the opportunity to reprise the infamous Bob Dole/Viagra ad -- I'd post it here, but it seems to have disappeared entirely from the web -- no doubt Dole and Pfizer have made sure that it has been scrubbed out of virtual existence....

And that, of course, brings us back to Senator McCain - who is flummoxed by a question about, what else? Viagra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQDbfF4RqA&feature=related

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It is pretty simple isn't it? Kind of a six degrees of Kevin Bacon game isn't it?

Barack Obama- Britney Spears
Britney Spears - Bob Dole
Bob Dole - Viagra
Viagra - John McCain

All it does is remind me of another creepy mean old white guy who can't get it up on his own anymore and who wants to bomb Iran to prove his manhood... is that really the message that the McCain campaign wants out there?

(and, for the humour-impaired Republican on the site, this is intended to be snark...)

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Obama just responded DIRECTLY to McCain's SOPHOMORIC attack ad using Britney Spears.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Obama just responded outside of Bell's Restaurant in Lebanon, MO: "You know, I don’t pay attention to John McCain’s ads, although I do notice he doesn’t seem to have anything to say very positive about himself. He seems to only be talking about me... You need to ask John McCain what he’s for and not just what he’s against."

Next up:
An ad that juxtaposes the White House with a rap party and Luracris song as the soundtrack.

Fo Shizzle, gonna paint the White House black. True dat. Off the chain.

Obama's message this week is about he economy. If the Obama campaign responded to every McCain ad that they put out, then thety will never get their economic message out there.

Aren't some of you guys the same people who said Obama needs to be hitting home his economic message more. Well that is what Obama is trying to do. While McCain is having to respond to the response to his own ads, the campaign can never talk about get it's message out.

If Obama stops to respond to every McCain ad, then doesn't he become McCain. That is how Obama truly beat Clinton early on, because the Obama campaign was good at staying on message. It was once the campaign go off message (neg ads, PA, Rev Wright) that time became dicey.

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"That is how Obama truly beat Clinton early on,"

1) He did not "beat" her, she got as many and by many counts more votes than her. He "wob" a la Bush in 2000, with help from the Scalia 5 of the Democratic party, super delegates.

2) He "won" by playing the race card. Repeatedly. African Americans and white-guilt liberals fell for his tricks.

3) He is trying to use the race card in the general election. It is going to blow up in his face because people are starting to figure out the guy is an empty suit exploiting race to win the election.

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Obama needs to talk about the Bush/McCain economy destroying America every single day.

Actually, Obama made the determination that it would be inappropriate to visit the hospital since the trip was being paid for with campaign funds. See he wanted to avoid giving the Republicans the ability to claim he was politicizing the wounded troops. The cost of that is having to push back as the Republicans politicize the wounded troops. But the claim that Obama didn't go to Landstuhl because he couldn't bring cameras is patently false. The only people pushing this idea are the McCain team and their water-carriers in the right-wing media. Everyone who was actually there agrees on this.

So are you merely misinformed, or a liar?

Didn't the Rove scum at McCain HQ have an ad ready to go labmasting Obama if he had visited the wounded?

Of course McCains Rovian underlings would use a visit by Obama to wounded troops against him.

Obama would be accused of exploiting the troops for political purposes. Something Republicans never do.

The McCain videographers, coming on yet again like Force 10 from Navarone, call Obama a intercontinetal boob---and what's the reaction?
"We're disappointed," say the Obama spokesmen.
"McCain has really let us down."

Jesus Christ, who are those guys?
Will they ever stop talking and get up off the floor and fight?

The new CNN poll has Obama six or seven points up, but on offshore drilling, 69% of the dumb American people think it's a good thing for heaven's sake and Obamaism says nothing to rebut it. Don't they have T. Boone's number?

As the ship quietly moves on, with most of the passengers and crew sound asleep, somebody should tell the captain that even though the night is clear, they're near an ice field and had better start acting accordingly.

McCain a global leader? He doesn't even inspire anyone in his own party.

He only won the nomination because his competitors were even bigger jac

McCain a global leader? He doesn't even inspire anyone in his own party.

He only won the nomination because his competitors were even bigger jackasses than he is.

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Scum that they are, this once again demonstrates that while their candidate sucks, the Republican tacticians are opponents one must take seriously. Their tactics continue to beg the question: "will Obama, unlike the Democrats of the past two cycles, fight back?". So far, the answer is clear:no, he will not fight back.

If this continues to be the case, the Republicans know they have, at minimum, a fighting chance to beat Obama because his refusal to fight (and I mean fight here not parry and not respond by calling these calumines "the old politics") signals that they will be allowed to run the table in terms of defining Obama and his character. By the time November rolls around they will have a huge portion of the public believing Obama is a sex-crazed dilletante who is in this only for his own self-agrandizement, an elitist who not only doesn't care about regular people, he doesn't care about America! Right now they (team McCain) are just testing to see what Obama's team is made of and they must be cautiously optimistic because no matter how disgusting the insult or the lie, camp Obama is nearly mute in response believing that they are ahead and when the convention comes they will take charge. This is a massive tactical error that has been repeatedly committed by Democratic Pres. nominees, but they never seem to learn.

Unless and until the Obama camp comes back at the McCain lies and slanders hammer and tong, the McCain camp, with their nearly senile and certainly inferior candidate will continue to shape the message and the tone of the campaign but most importantly they will be allowed to continue to be in command of the public impression of who Obama is and what he stands for. If Obama's people allow this to continue with nothing but proper and "above it all" kinds of responses then they and the nation will lose in November. It's just that simple.

~sound of many hands clapping~

Finally. One of you gets it, and with 100% clarity.

PROVE that Obama's not just some American Idol wannabe!!!

PROVE he's qualified for the job!!!

The freakin' repugs are playing for keeps! Why isn't Obama????

Why isn't his campaign showing the American voters that those of us who despise him may be wrong? (We're not, by the way, but why aren't they at least trying?)

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Cindy McCain kinda looks like Paris and Britany and probably even richer than them,....he's got something for blondes that's for sure. That's what the media should concentrate on,...."Wassup with the blonde fetish"

McCain proves yet again he is a premature sore loser.

Do they think McCain is not going to come off like an a-hole for attacking Britney, Paris and Obama? The people who are dumb enough to believe and ad like this love celebrities. I don't see how this works on any level other than showing how culturally out of the loop and tin eared is the McCain campaign.

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I am very concerned right now. The Republicans are controlling the airwaves. Personal attacks to drive up Obama's negative rating is all that matters to McCain. The media treats a personal attack as a worthy news story. Obama is completely bogged down with responding to these attacks. The same thing happened with Kerry and the Swiftboat smear. We all know how that turned out. Obama needs to get back on message and ignore these gnats flying around.

Rapid response is not the answer because it is playing in McCain's house. Let some low-level PR person put out dismissive one-liners then drop it, letting your main campaign put out the message Obama wants put out. The Republicans do it this way every time because it has worked for them. The Democrats never seem to learn any lessons.....

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DallasNE,

Rapid response IS the answer if the response is designed to turn the tables and attack the other side in order to claim the momentum for yourself. You are correct that what is happening to Obama happened to Kerry, but it is only because they are wasting their time with the pantywaist responses.

They need to go on the offensive and attack McCain and the corrupt Republicans! When was the last time you heard a Democrat condemn the Republicans for being liars or telling lies to the public? When was the last time you heard ANY Democrat making the point that the Republicans are the most corrupt bunch of politicians in the history of this nation? When was the last time you heard the Democrats say that the Republican Party is the most lawless group of thugs ever to hold power in Washington?

You never hear them saying anything remotely like this because the truth is that the Republicans are right (in terms of tactics and strategy). The case they always bring to the people boils down to this: Democrats are pussies who not only won't defend themselves when under attack, they will not defend this country when necessary. It's as plain as day that the Democrats need to go on the offensive, but they're just too chicken and terrified to do that. It's pathetic.

"What we decided to do was find the top three international celebrities in the world," Davis said. "And from our estimations, Britney and Paris came in second and third.

"Estimating" Paris and Britney as the number 2 & 3 celebrities in the world is simply another indication as to how out of touch these douchebags are.

Where's the "just leave Britney alone guy?" /snark.

Really, I live in the DC area, one of the markets where the McCain camp is bombing this drivel and upon coming home saw his new ad TWICE with the hour.

Very glad a response from the Obama camp has been created for this and the moronic gas prices ad, but I have yet to see these responses. And you know this ad targeting in this market it to get lazy press corp to give this crap free coverage.

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I'm a little disappointed with Obama's tepid response. If the problem is McCain distracting us from the REAL issues and crises Obama's campaign should by all means run a "scare" ad that jerk us all back to reality.

Eg.:

Still a deadly insurgency in Iraq and resurgence of Al Qaeda. Troops mired in distant lands, increasing casualties and suicides.

Banking failures, run on IndyMac, Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac rescued by taxpayers, Depression era images

Thousands bankrupt and homeless

Escalating oil and gas prices

Inflation squeezing the middle class

And then McCain running petty, inane ads on Obama's "celebrity" and lies about neglecting injured troops. He's Bush Lite, and will continue this disastrous trajectory.


Look, we've got to be reminded again why we want Obama as President, it's the dire state the country's in. Reality is scary, McCain is scary, so please, scare us.

Sorry, there's only one real issue in this campaign, getting elected, and the sooner Obama realizes this, the better the chance he might pull it off and win; otherwise, forget it, Joe sixpack will elect the next republican moron to the office.

McCain is casting Obama as Zip Coon, the stock character of minstrel shows -- a northern, urban black man trying to live above his station by mimicking upper class white styles.

Sean Hannity? Who's Sean Hannity? You don't mean that guy who used to be a backup QB for the Steelers?

I think this ad will backfire in McSames face. Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton are extremely popular with the young vote. So therefore, the young vote will get Obama in office.

These filthy flying monkey Republicans can not see past their hatred for what is good. It will back fire.

Keep hoping. If Obama doesn't start labelling McCain as the unprincipled asshole he is, he will lose this fight. I hate it when democrats nominate people who think they are too far above the fray to fight back. Give me a street fighter anyday to an aristocrat who thinks he can reason with a moronic asshole like McCain. This is about the power to make the decisions which will determine the future of the world. This is not an academic exercise in power sharing. Time to grow up people. Four hundred years ago, the Queen and her family and allies poisoned her husband to get to the next ruler. Today we have elections. Otherwise, it's exactly the same game. Should have listened more carefully to Bill and Hillary people. They've been there.

effete dandy? maybe they should have a free throw contest to decide the race.

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"John Wayne-like McCain".

John Wayne was a draft-dodger. When he got draft notices he ignored them, until the movie studio intervened and he stopped getting them.

And as is typical of right-wing draft-dodgers, he was a war-hawk who didn't wear a uniform except in movies.

Same as Reagan: he had to be paid to wear a military uniform. And then only in movies.

They both had the same philosophy:

"I'm not a military hero, but I can pretend to be one in movies -- if paid enough."

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I wonder if Britney and Hilton* are racist enough to sue McShameful for comparing them with a brown person -- and finding them less important to the world than is the brown person.

*I long thought "Paris Hilton" was a hotel in Paris in which all sorts of anonymous strangers slept.

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Obama doesn't play the snap-fast mockery game well at all. Here's what he should have said:

"A couple of weeks ago John McCain finally learned how to use the Internet. It appears he's been spending his time watching Paris Hilton videos. Kind of creepy, don't you think?"

The Democratic Party has a huge responsibility in the candidates they have chosen. The early joint endorsement of Obama by Kennedy and Kerry was symptomatic. The problem is that the same losers will be there to nominate the wrong person next time.

Everyone knew a year ago that the Republicans were going to "play dirty". If the Democratic Party tries to blame their upcoming loss once again on those "nasty Republican bullies", they'll just lose another 30% of their electorate.

Of course, Axelrod is every bit as wily as Rove and Obama is not the first black politician he has promoted. I think it's appropriate that McCain attack the Glitzkrieg that Obama waged against Clinton. And every time McCain catches Obama using the race card, you better believe there are thousands of Clinton supporters applauding the Republican candidate.


has anybody tried crooks and liars lately? it's been inaccessible (window message box saying internet explorer cannot open website). i have a feeling it was the seymour hersh thread where some people in the know shared some confidential info.

I'm sympathetic with people who call the ad stupid. But this completely misses the larger point that a vast number of american voters really are very ignorant and stupid, and will love the point of the ad. It's an all-american trait of Joe Sixpack that successful people are always to be hated and distrusted, especially if they're educated and black. The truth has already become the first casualty of this campaign. Forget about truth and fairness. From now on the whole point will be mudslinging, as it's always been what republicans do best. Like the man said, you get what you vote for.

Obama is vulnerable to this line of attack because, just like Paris Hilton, he is famous for being famous, and not for anything he's actually done besides running for president after two years in the Senate. He's famous for being the first black man to receive a major party's nomination - and not for actually accomplishing anything on the national stage. This is the price that democrats are going to pay for nominating someone with so little national experience. And to dismiss it as simply a "false, negative attack" misses the point of how effective it can be if not addressed in the correct way.

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