Iraqi Official Says He's Hopeful That U.S. Troops Can Leave By 2010
If there's still any lingering controversy over whether the Iraqi prime minister's endorsement of Obama's withdrawal timetable was mistranslated, this just-breaking news should really render that whole debate moot:
Iraq's government spokesman is hopeful that U.S. combat forces could be out of the country by 2010.Ali al-Dabbagh made the comments following a meeting in Baghdad on Monday between Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama, who arrived in Iraq earlier in the day.
The timeframe is similar to Obama's proposal to pull back combat troops within 16 months.
The key here is that this is the same Iraqi official who issued his "clarification" of Maliki's remarks -- the one that was distributed by CENTCOM.
Of course, we'd prefer to have al-Dabbagh's direct quotes, and we'll bring them to you when they're available.
Late Update: Some direct quotes here.












Comments (36)
I'm surprised the AP let that out...
July 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
It came out of Baghdad, Fournier couldn't massage it from DC....
July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again folks, this is not a gaffe, as the media is calling it, it is much more serious and not to be taken lightly: Here is McCain on Good Morning America. This man is too OLD to be President.
Asked by ABC's Diane Sawyer Monday morning whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded:
"I think it's serious. . . . It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border," said McCain, R-Ariz., said on "Good Morning America
July 21, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
i saw that and i thought something was wrong with that statement so i rewind it on my tivo and i said dammn i hope msm pick this story up...........
July 21, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Watched him on NBC this morning as well, and it was just sad. He really couldn't make a sentence come out coherently. Meredith Vieira ate him for breakfast.
July 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Scientific fact: 86% of people in McCain's age group show some signs of dementia. It will happen to most of us, it is unacceptable in a Presidential candidate. I am quite dismayed that the media continues to call these gaffes, it is WAY beyond that.
July 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
And this is after a weekend. He doesn't campaign on weekends, so he can't claim sleep deprivation.
He's pretty incoherent whenever he can't control the subject. Best recent example was the question about Viagra and birth control when he rubbed his face and rolled his eyes with a "beam me up" expression. The clip from that event could be used in a lot of attack ads. Clueless McCain.
July 21, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Planned Parenthood is already using it in a TV ad in battleground states.
July 21, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
He said Iraq/Pakistan border? Really? I'm not one to jump on every verbal mixup, but at what point do these mixups get covered at all?
July 21, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
All of this is looking good for Obama, but I only have one complaint concerning Team Obama - they should be forcefully answering McCain and his surrogates back home.
July 21, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Biden should be hitting all of the talk shows in Obama's absence (at least on foreign policy).
July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh man, when is the first debate? This is going to be gold.
July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
McFuddle and Bush are looking like the idiots we know them to be with this coverage. Clarifications on the statement by Maliki will just keep it alive for a few days. Sure looks like Obama's positions are being endorsed by the key group...Maliki!
July 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah -- the attempt at a "walkback" really is not helping them, is it? It's dragging the story out through several news cycles.
July 21, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's my question: How is Halperin going to spin this to either minimize it or play it as a plus for John McCain?
July 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
My guess? He won't mention it, at all.
I'd also like to add that the Obama campaign should find a way of highlighting the persistent (and troubling) verbal gaffes McCain is making.
July 21, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nah. Halperin's attached to McCain's ass like a lamprey, ready to lap up whatever shit McCain dishes out.
July 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The password is CONFUSED. They used it last week, they'll use it again next week.
July 21, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
How will McCain respond to this? Will he double down on his plan to stay in Iraq like North Korea/Japan, or use the "surge" success as an excuse to get out of that FUBAR region?
July 21, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, they already used the "lost in translation" line. So, I guess we can expect them to try and bring back Chalabi and put a hit out on Maliki?
July 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
You mean Iraq's FORMER-government spokesman? Ali al-Dabbagh will most likely be leaving to "spend more time with his family" any minute now.
July 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. And Maliki will be in a secure, undisclosed location for the duration of the fall elections.
July 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nah, expect that spokesman to be picked up by Al Qaeda at a traffic checkpoint.
July 21, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
i think it's time for CENTCOM to clarify this.....
July 21, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Juan Cole has a very good breakdown of the Bush admins slimy attempt to spin the truth al maliki revealed in Germany;
(compliments of Juan Cole);
The troop escalation, which actually allowed the ethnic cleansing of the Sunnis of Baghdad and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis from the country, has largely been pushed as propaganda by the White House and the AEI. Here’s an example of how their propaganda works. As is usual with news it does not like, the Bush administration attempted to muddy the waters this weekend regarding the interview of PM Nuri al-Maliki with Der Spiegel in which he expressed approval of Barack Obama’s plan to get US troops out of Iraq within 16 months of next January. Al-Maliki told Der Spiegel in response to a question about how long US troops would be in his country,
‘Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.
SPIEGEL: Is this an endorsement for the US presidential election in November? Does Obama, who has no military background, ultimately have a better understanding of Iraq than war hero John McCain?
Maliki: Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic. Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems. Of course, this is by no means an election endorsement. Who they choose as their president is the Americans’ business. But it’s the business of Iraqis to say what they want. ‘
Ali al-Dabbagh, who is usually described as al-Maliki’s spokesman but actually seems to work for the CENTCOM or Pentagon Middle East command, was trotted out to make vague statements about Der Spiegel’s having mistranslated or misinterpreted what al-Maliki said. This denial was issued through CENTCOM! When the original demand came from al-Maliki for a timetable for US withdrawal, it was al-Dabbagh who reinterpreted it as a ‘time horizon.’ Al-Dabbagh was contradicted by National Security Counsellor Muwaffaq al-Rubaie, who seems actually closer in this thinking to al-Maliki. My guess is that al-Dabbagh has been recruited by some agency in Washington, DC, to explain away al-Maliki’s statements whenever they contradict Bush’s.
Der Spiegel stood by its story. The text of Der Spiegel’s statement is here. It turns out that the translator involved works for al-Maliki, not for Der Spiegel, and so presumably knew what the prime minister’s words meant in Arabic. And for the piece de resistance, it turns out that Der Spiegel has an audiotape of the Arabic of the interview, which they leaked to The New York Times. Sabrina Tavernise and Jeff Zeleny write:
‘ But the interpreter for the interview works for Mr. Maliki’s office, not the magazine. . . The following is a direct translation from the Arabic of Mr. Maliki’s comments by The Times: “Obama’s remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq.” He continued: “Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq.” ‘
But you see, it does not matter that al-Maliki actually said what he said. It does not matter that Der Spiegel can prove it. All that matters is that the Goebbelses around Bush and Cheney have managed to muddy the waters and produce doubt, taking the hard edge off the interview. Even AFP, the usually skeptical French wire service, asserted that al-Maliki had “denied” the accuracy of the Der Spiegel interview! Of course, al-Maliki has done no such thing. CENTCOM ventriloquising al-Dabbagh engaged in the denial, and a very vague one at that.
That is the way propaganda works, to obscure the truth and ensure it can be denied. Some wingnut even tried to pressure me to retract the little sentence I had written on the affair yesterday, on the grounds of “al-Dabbagh’s” mendacious and ridiculous assertions. Our information system is so corrupt and easily manipulated that even a clumsy ploy can obscure the truth and bully the journalists.
July 21, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
For now, it seems like the McCain camp is saying there's been no formal decision on the part of the Iraqi government for a 16-month withdrawal. Basically, they'll just downplay Maliki and other's statements as just being a couple politicians expressing personal opinions.
July 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, tongue in cheek: Obama should select Al-Maliki as his running mate. No one has done more to demonstrate that Obama has crossed the Commander-in-Chief threshold than him.
There is simply no denying that this trip has enhanced Obama's Foreign Policy stature. Jonathan Martin over at Politico is calling events on the ground a "trifecta" for Obama: First direct diplomacy with Iran (read: APPEASEMENT), Time Horizon's (TM) in Iraq, and a recognition that Afghanistan is the Central Front For the War on Terror.
So, with the Foreign Policy arguments of McCain dissipating from public discourse, what's next for his campaign? The economy? LOL!
Obama should just come home now and screw Europe. Mission Accomplished!
July 21, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is really promising. There's nothing I love more than GOP spin, when it shifts into completely crazy, bald-faced, "he's just pinin for the fjords" mode.
We've had some good stuff over the last 48 hours, and I sense that it's going to keep going. Ali Al-Dabbagh may have mistranslated himself. He may be an example of liberal media bias. He may never have visited Afghanistan. Patiently and trustingly, I await the correct interpretation.
July 21, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
ChrisnBama, obama needs the HUGE German crowd in Berlin to help a few more wingnuts heads to explode.
And St johnny's handlers to think up a few more ways to show how outa touch St johnny really is (like the past week's events have done).
July 21, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point Clif, a few less wingnuts is always a good thing.
July 21, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Any chance McCain can familiarize himself with Arabic before the election ?
July 21, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is REALLY setting the agenda on foreign policy right now from Iraq, to Iran, and to Afghanistan.
Very exciting!!!
July 21, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's video of the spokesman from the Iraqi government saying they want the troops by 2010.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25782385#25782385
Someone needs to show this to John McCain.
July 21, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is EXCELLENT NEWS!!!! for McCAIN!!!!!
(A tribute to Idiotic)
July 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why does Maliki want the terrorists to win?
July 21, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I liked Obama's position better when he stuck by "get them out now". Bush said we'd leave when we were asked to.
This sure looks more like Bush's old position than Obama's new position, neither of which is consistent with Obama's original (and better) position.
July 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink