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Election Central Sunday Roundup

Obama: Hagel And Reed "Good Guys"
Speaking to reporters last night on his campaign plane, Barack Obama acknowledged that Senators Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Jack Reed (D-RI) could be accompanying him to Iraq. "They reflect, I think, a traditional bipartisan wisdom when it comes to foreign policy," Obama said. "Neither of them are ideologues but try to get the facts right and make a determination about what's best for U.S. interests -- and they're good guys."

Obama Speaking To Teachers Union, Latino Voters
Barack Obama has a busy day today, after taking yesterday off. The candidate is in San Diego, where he is speaking via satellite to the American Federation of Teachers convention in Chicago, and then proceeding to an in-person appearance before the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza.

McCain Taking The Weekend Off
John McCain does not have any public events scheduled for today. He will, however, be delivering his own speech before to the National Council of La Raza.

Iran Condemns McCain's Cigarette Jokes
The government of Iran has officially condemned John McCain's joke from earlier this week, that cigarette exports to Iran were a good way of killing them. "We condemn such jokes and believe them to be inappropriate for a U.S. presidential candidate," said a spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry.

Fiorina: Most American Not Concerned With Phil Gramm Gaffe
Carly Fiorina today tried to downplay the potential impact of Phil Gramm's declaration that America had become "a nation of whiners" about he economy. "Outside of Washington, where this is an interesting parlor game, I think most Americans are not really focused on what a bunch of surrogates are saying," Fiorina said on Meet The Press -- though it's unclear if the average American will see things as Fiorina does, as she's just a campaign surrogate.

McCain: I'm Learning To Use A Computer
Good news from John McCain. In an interview with the New York Times, McCain declared that he's finally learning how to use a computer by himself: "I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog."

Obama: It Would Be Hard For Jesse Jackson To Disagree With Me
Barack Obama told CNN that he had a private conversation with Jesse Jackson a few days before Jackson's derogatory comments, in which they discussed Obama's message at African-American venues about personal morality. "I think it would be hard for him to disagree with that since many of the things I have said are the things that he has said in the past," Obama said.


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"I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself.

Is he having trouble with the power button or what?

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"I am learning to get online myself".

Without the training wheels and everything?

Seriously, what's he talking about? He is profoundly out of touch with stuff, isn't he?

ha ha, oh old people

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Joke's on him, I expect. My 83 year old father, God rest his soul, was totally clueless beyond clicking on his AOL dial up connection but he loved e-mail. Lot's of folks well over 80 learned to get on-line a long time ago. The technology is no longer new.

My father is 91 now, but 10 years ago he took a few computer classes and now teaches computer and internet skills to other seniors in his complex in Florida. He learned how to use the internet himself.

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What?

I'd make the same remark about Barack Obama if he ever said anything as clueless as "I'm learning to get online myself".

Maybe it was a subliminal thing, like he really should get himself in line with the times. Maybe the inter'net' reminds him of fishing and his throwing out a line.

My parent gets her email, and that is a major thing. And if we change our email address, bye-bye, she never writes to the correct address again. Love her, but it is just too much at her age.

"My parent gets her email, and that is a major thing. And if we change our email address, bye-bye, she never writes to the correct address again. Love her, but it is just too much at her age."

Your parent is either seriously out of it, or REALLY old in the head. I have been online since before most of you were on the planet, and I'm far from alone. Senator McLame is way too old, no matter what his age. The thought of another geriatric old coot, with short term memory problems as Commander in Chief is even scarier than Dick Cheney with a rifle. FWIW, I am older than the Arizona antiquity.

Answer: Really old in the head. Totally.

I think in McCain's case, it's not entirely his age. It's also partly arrogance--that man simply will do NOTHING for himself.

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Yes, to me it says less about his being old than his being the sort of pointy-haired boss who has his assistant print out his emails and type up his responses, because important people don't do that peon stuff.

Hasn't he made some gaffe before about the "internets"? This is hilarious.

I know Bush did. I don't know about McCain, though.

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I know Bush did. I don't know about McCain, though.
It's off-message to suggest they're different people.

mclame's newest talking point:

bush knows about "the google" — and i know even less.

george bush invented the internets in a debate in 2004 (I saw him do it)

a guy from Alaska (stevens ???) invented the innertubes while trying to explain the intricacies of how emails travel thru PHONE LINES and CABLES (the basic premise of the technology hasn't really changed all that much since samuel morse)

but don't feel sorry for repuglitards

computers ain't the only thing they're totally clueless about

He thinks he's being cute/endearing with this internet/computer inability. Also this business of taking weekends off will reflect poorly against him if he keeps it up once the convention is over in late August.

Gramm is more than a surrogate he is McCain's economic adviser - nice try Carly. Wesley Clark has no role in Obama's campaign and the GOP were all over his remarks and attacking Obama with them. Was that asked by the MTP host?

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I'll try again, I keep getting kicked out. Two points:

1. Not only is mcbush taking weekends off, but he is shurking his responsibilities as a senator and has been missing in action from congress. Gee, that's what we want as president, another politician on constant vacation and shirking their responsibilities. Who does that sound like? Do we want another freaking president too busy on vacation to do their job and allow another terrorist attack? Unbelievable.

2. Graham not only speaks for mcbush, he is mcbush's economic policy. A vote for mcbush is a vote for graham's economic policy, which is the lords get richer and live off the work of the serfs, normal americans. Is that what the american people want? If they vote for mcbush, they get what they deserve, more serfdom. Pathetic.

My friends,

Senator Obama thinks that he is so cool with he Goo Goo Googley eyes, and his email exchanges with Scarlett Johansson. Well, I want to prove to you that I am just as hip as Mr. Smarty Pants Obama. I am posting this to prove that I have mastered the ability of posting on the inter connect ah ah ah network stuff. Now that I have mastered that; does anyone of you know where I can get the email address of Veronica Lake? She's a looker, with great looking Gams.

Got to go now; Matlock is on.

Senator John McCain


Veronica? Last spotted waitressing in NYC in 1960, a total wreck and has-been. You wouldn't want her anymore big J.

ooh, the Matlock/Perry Mason double feature night? damn, where's the kid who knows how program my VCR?!?

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Dammit, I am listening to cnn, while I am surfing the internets and they are pathetic. Breaking politica news, in case you didn't hear it, Animal lovers favor mcbush and super models favor obama. They had their bald economic guru and a wanna be super model talking about how drilling would somehow make a f*cking difference. This was on the tabloid program "this week in politics." WTF is up with our gd country? It really is absurd.

Now if the "drilling" was in reference to the super models....

Iran, in Republican-speak "the most dangerous country in the world", feels the need to condemn a disgusting remark by a Presidential candidate that we in the U.S. have heard absolutely nothing about.

i think McCain's comment merited 25 seconds on "Hardball" one night. apart from that, total media blackout. i guess the Iranian foreign office reads progressive blogs after all, because i don't know where else they would have heard of it.

"Iran condemns McCain" will be a badge of honor for the McCain Campaign, of course never saying why they condemned him, because that shows what a fool McCain is.

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Ok, last one on this stupid show, but it's pissing me the f*ck off. Now they are praising the clintons again and that they are the most powerful political force in the country and that she has the most power in the senate. These bozos obviously have no clue about politics.

Kerry received more votes than any other dem presidential nominee in history. Holy cow. The most votes . . . . . but he lost. And how much power did he have in the senate after getting all those votes. I am sure that he was the new leader of the dems, right. He was able to weild that power all of the place and was a force to reckon with, right. Uh, nope. Clinton will go to the back bench and do nothing in the senate, like she did nothing before she ran for president. Ridiculous.

To extend Fiorina's logic, no one cares about what she has to say either, even if she is full of shit.

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Folks, look at the daily tracking polls. Tie in Rasmussen. Daily drop in Gallup since Obama regained a 6pt lead a few days ago. The McCain campaign's mastery of the media is working. Of course, they only have to do half the job because the media will pony up without even having to be pressured.

The Obama campaign has to pick it up...big time. People still believe Al Gore is a big liar. They still believe Kerry is a master flip-flopper who lied about his service record. The shit sticks...and it's starting to stick to Obama - he's an elitist, typical politician who will say anything to get elected. Doesn't matter if it's true - that's becoming the conventional wisdom.

Obama needs to be out there every day hammering away about why drilling in protected areas isn't going to do a damn thing - but he also needs to present an alternative...and talk about it - ALL THE TIME. Gas prices will be the wedge issue of this election. He needs to better explain his FISA vote and how he'll work extra hard as president to protect our privacy and consitutional rights. He needs to emphasize over and over again that one of his most important goals as president will be to get out of Iraq - and be as careful getting out as we were getting in. Talk over and over again about how the Iraqis themselves are asking for a timeline. And he and his surrogates need to jump on every gaffe McCain makes - and they need to make everybody aware of the numerous and egregious flip-flops McCain has made himself.

Example - Clark talked about McCain's military service not being an automatic qualification for being president. It's a legitimate and valid argument. McCain's campaign, I read somewhere, put out 16 press releases about this. His surrogates were all over the place talking about. The media is STILL talking about.

Phil Gramm - in speaking about priority #1 for most voters - calls everybody a bunch of whiners. Obama talks about it for one day. His campaign puts out, at most, 2 press releases. The media talks about it halfheartedly for about a day and a half. It's already out of the news. Gramm is McCain's top economic advisor and he basically told millions of Americans that their economic concerns are all in their heads. But Obama realizes no gain from that and, in fact, starts dropping in the polls???? It's the campaign's own fault - they let it go by, they didn't work the refs.

We're running out of time. The CW is settling in. If Obama is seen as "just another politician", he loses. It's that simple. But he can't wait for the media to come to their senses - they won't. He needs to go on offense. This isn't the primary - the majority of voters in the GE don't know what the hell is going on. To them, drilling in protected areas makes perfect sense...the "gimmick" line alone won't work. They don't pay attention to the news....unless they see his name, position in the McCain campaign, and "whiner" qoute on the news every day for a week and a half, they won't even know who Phil Gramm is.

I'm starting to get very worried...and I don't care if it's early. Ke-rist, just wait until the 527s start blanketing the airwaves with the, "He's un-American and probably a terrorist", ads. Obama can't be neck-and-neck at this point - he needs to be ahead by at least 5-6 pts in every poll. The Rasmussen one has me spooked the most. It was consistently showing a 5-6 pt lead for Obama for weeks...and all of a sudden, it's a tie. Rasmussen weights for party ID and he has Dems ahead by about 9-10 - and Obama's tied with McCain?

He's no longer seen as "change" by many folks - he's seen as "same old shit". And when you're a black, young, freshman senator with an exotic background and a funny name running against a white, POW war hero widely seen as a moderate and maverick, you better represent change if you want to win. People want change in this election - but they have to believe that the guy they are voting for will bring change, believes in change. I think Obama - both because of his shift to the center and his inability to manipulate the media - is quickly becoming, "just another politician." For him, that's the kiss of death.

Peter: "Why did you type such a long post?"

Lois: "I don't know, Peter. Meth is a hell of a drug."

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Good one. But if I were a meth user, wouldn't I actually be a poor white trash former Hillary/now McCain supporter from Appalachia?

Actually, to quote Lois Griffin myself, I think Obama should take a page out of her book of political strategy...forget about everything I wrote above:

Crowd: No new taxes! No new taxes! No new taxes!

Lois: But... what about the terrorists?

(entire crowd gasps)

Lois: That's right, terrorists. We have intelligence that suggests that... Hitler... is plotting... with, with the Legion of Doom... to assassinate Jesus. Using the lake as a base.

You are correct, but I think it would not matter what Senator Obama did unless it was perceived as 'wrong'. The MSM is in this for money, and money is McCain in the White House giving corporations their big tax breaks.

BTW, Michael above, quit watching CNN and go have a beer :0)

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Good point, too early for a beer though. Just venting.

Michael: On the weekends you can have a beer at any time. It is required nutrition after watching Sunday TV.

I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. My good friend Ted Stevens is tutoring me.

We look forward to you whizzing through the tubes, senator.

Love the section I pasted below: Have to agree with Iran in fact re: disturbed state of mind. Same type of disturbed state of mind being a REAL problem was his Friday interview in Pittsburgh regarding his POW story of naming his squadron to the VC using the members of the STEELERS Defensive Line. Trouble is, in his best selling book made into a movie, this incident was re-created in a very poignant scene where he names the Green Bay PACKERS line. He has told this on other occasions correctly. If you watch the interview, it is obvious, at least to me, that this was not pandering but a major "senior moment" and should be worrisome to everyone. In fact, it should be MSM news due to such a huge error in his recollection capabilities. He does not have the acumen to be President.
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Iran statement:

McCain on Tuesday reacted to a report of rising U.S. cigarette exports to the Islamic Republic by saying it may be "a way of killing 'em."

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said: "McCain's crude remark on the indiscriminate killing of the Iranian nation not only testifies to his 'disturbed state of mind' , but also to his warmongering approach to foreign policy."

The McCain football reference is comparable to Hillary landing in Bosnia under sniper fire. The MSM didn't cut her any slack over that. I suppose it's her fault for not being a former POW.

The New York Times should have asked him if McCain likes to "do it himself" alot.

Absolutely hilarious!

Especially the pounding on the table, trying to think of something.

so really obama is saying that jesse jackson should cut his own you know what off

Obama on Energy

Per Daily KOS: I think this is a great point so I am sharing.

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Mr. McCain, who with his wife, Cindy, has an adopted daughter, said flatly that he opposed allowing gay couples to adopt. "I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don't believe in gay adoption," he said.

Do you think McCain came to this conclusion during his affair with Cindy, or after he left his wife and three children to marry her?

I do applaud Cindy for forcing McCain to sign a prenup stating that her assets would stay in her name. If not for that, he probably would have traded her in by now. As it is, he simply berates her in public... Perhaps that is what makes them better parents than say, a loving same-sex couple.

I think if we check the stats we'll find that 99% of gays grew up in heterosexual households. What up with that?

Good one.

Dang those heterosexuals, why do they hate America..?

Republicans love tactics like gay-bashing which (a) resonate with their base, (b) don't require them to actually DO anything, and (c) only alienate the sort of fair-minded person who was unlikely to vote for them anyway.

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Hmmm, and what historic political party does that sound like? Vilifying a minority in order to rally people to support a party that actually is more detrimental to their lives than the minority ever could be. Hmmm, it'll come to me. It kind of reminds me of the 30's and some foreign nation that tried to take over the world. Like a typical american, I don't remember history though. I skipped that subject in school, but the scenario sure sounds familiar to me. Maybe it will come to me.

Hehe, in fact, I know several homosexual couples that raised straight children. I know of no case where homosexual couples have raised homosexual children.

"Cut his nuts out" would be the corret quote, which somehow sounds even worse.

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Obama: It Would Be Hard For Jesse Jackson To Disagree With Me . . . "I think it would be hard for him to disagree with that since many of the things I have said are the things that he has said in the past," Obama said.

Except for the bit about 'MANNING UP" and illegitimate kids, Jesse and his daughter may have differing input about that.

Yep. I think that Obama's message hit home with Jesse when he said ' boys have babies, men raise children'..Jesse has that baby momma and that is why his son probably came back and hit him hard as well. Congressman Jesse probably has much disdain for "REVEREND" Jackson's treatment of his mother and their family name.

Go Obama...when a dog is kicked..it yelps.

McCain will soon learn that crashing a computer is almost as easy (for him) as crashing an airplane.

There is some peculiar resistance in many older people to the computer. I tried many times years ago to show older guys in the office how to use Google (10 minute lesson, at the outside?) but they always had some vitally important coffee break coming up that meant we could do it later, i.e., never.

Poor McCain doesn't realize how foolish he looks claiming that he is "learning" to get on line. It's like say I have been learning how to turn on a light switch. He'd have done much better by keeping mum.

Another weekend off for Johnny?? What happens if the 3:00 am call comes in on a Saturday night? Is he going to wait until Monday?

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This just in. Incumbent governor matt Blunt of Missurruh is still a republican.

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