Election Central Morning Roundup
WaPo: Obama Got Discounted Home Loan
The Washington Post casts a critical eye on Barack Obama's reformer image this morning, with a report that he received a home loan in 2005 with a below-average interest rate, saving him as much as $300 per month. The Obama campaign said that the interest rate was low due to competition from a competing bank, as well as other factors that went into the rate calculation.
Obama To Speak On Public Service, Address Steelworkers
Barack Obama will be delivering a speech today in Colorado Springs -- a Republican stronghold in a swing state that he is trying to move into the Democratic column -- and deliver a speech on national service. He will also address the United Steelworkers annual convention in Las Vegas via satellite, an effort to secure support among union members and blue-collar workers.
McCain Speaking Today In Mexico
John McCain will be delivering a speech today in Mexico City, part of his tour this week of Latin America. McCain is expected to address issues like immigration and trade, all controversial subjects back home in the United States that have split the Republican Party from Hispanic voters also have have led to much distrust of McCain himself with the conservative base.
Poll: Fear Of Terrorism Is Fading
A new CNN poll shows that Americans are much less afraid of terrorism now than they used to be: Only 35% of respondents think a terrorist attack against America is likely, compared to 41% in the summer of 2007 and majorities in the five summers before that. From the pollster's analysis: "As the threat of a terrorist attack continues to recede in the mind of the American voter, the state of the economy and other domestic issues are likely to become even more important."
CQ: Dems Now Likely To Pick Up Staten Island House Seat
CQ is now changing its rating for the open New York House seat of retiring GOPer Vito Fossella from "Toss-Up" all the way to "Democrat Favored," an upgrade of two whole ratings for the Dems. Republicans have had a serious run of bad luck here, with a long search for a new candidate, the death of an actual candidate, and now a whole new search that has so far come up empty.















Shame on you, Eric. That loan interest rate was 5.625%, which was average market rate in 2005. That WAPO story has been loudly criticized for that shoddy reporting.
July 2, 2008 9:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
What do you expect from a kid ?
July 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I expect him to fix it or add an update.
July 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
That WashPo article pertaining to the 'favorable rate' Obama received appears to be pure crap. It's amazing that a major newspaper can get away with printing baseless stories like that.
July 2, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
From the WaPo article
Since that is the real question, it would be nice if the article actually answered it in the the course of the article. statistically, one would expect half of all loans to be made at less than the average rate. Without giving any idea of what others in similar circumstances were getting as a rate, to imply that 30 basis points is 'discount' is just a guess on behalf of the Post, and from the looks of it, simply a vehicle for them to rehash the Rezko story.--
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July 2, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well stated. Exactly. They got someone who asked the question that needed to be answered, but they didn't answer it. I guess that's probably because answering it would let people know that there is no story.
I really like how they throw in the "context" at the end... To provide some background for this story it is important to know that Rezko, Rezko, Obama, Rezko, Rezko.
July 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
You could have included a disclaimer about how that WaPo story is kinda shoddy.
But then again, maybe "WaPo" "Obama" and "shoddy story" is kinda redundant.
July 2, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
the hell... 5.625%? that's the rate i got on my home in 2006. how is this a sweetheart deal?
July 2, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
It isn't.
July 2, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Obama got the same kind of "deal" available to anyone at his and Michelle's income level.
Now what I want to know is what is the interest rate John and Cindy McCain are paying on their six-figure credit card debt.
July 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
4.875 30 year fixed 2 points.......... in 2006......... in Maryland.
July 2, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hope the whacko WaPo doesn't pick that up.
July 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, we got a loan to pay off our first and second mortgage and the rate was slightly higher, but we got it a month ago. I guess I got a better rate from shopping around, in fact after checking with 3 mortgage companies. So shame on me, eh? Sweetheart deals are made when the loan recipient gets a discount of thousands of dollars and no one else gets the same break. But, but, but, ummmm anything to try to give Obama a bum wrap. Dear WashPo, your hit job ain't working!!!!! We know exactly what malfeasance is after the nearly 8 years of Bush.
July 2, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
These days "WaPO" and "shoddy story" is redundant regardless of the subject. Sad.
July 2, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Heh, I got 5.325% with nothing down in 2003. I must be a lot more powerful than I thought!
July 2, 2008 9:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll start forming your exploratory committee.
July 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Priceless!
Can I ghostwrite your autobiography?
July 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
So let's see. The Obamas have $3 million in the bank, and a seat in the United States Senate. Hmmmm. Sounds like a good credit risk to me, and 5.625% sounds about right. Somebody find out what John and Maris McCain are paying on their home mortgages.
July 2, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
I mean, seriously. 3/8 of a point. Whoopdedoo!
July 2, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
who cares if his house payment was $300 less. i got car insurance for $200 less because of company competition.
http://sensico.wordpress.com/
July 2, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
What, the fear of terrorism is fading?!
This sounds like a job for Charlie Black!
July 2, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
...or Buck Smith!
July 2, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
The WaPo did not cast a 'critical eye' on this mortgage, at all, Eric.
Just the opposite happened, but I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't even read the article, lest you fall into the category of the hooked.
What the WaPo staff reporter cast was a hook to get a rise out of the ignorant who are already comfortable swimming in a sea of manufactured spin. The article used a hook baited with National Enquirer-like inclusions about 1) Countrywide loans [not at all relevant or similar] and about 2) Mrs. Rezko buying the side lot [not at all relevant to the Obama house loan]. Aside from the fact of that baited hook used to push innuendo, the author totally failed to make any case at all that the lending bank gave a mortgage break to Obama which could ever be seen as outside of usual lending practices based upon income, credit ratings, etc.
July 2, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm looking forward to hearing more from Obama about Mexico policy.
July 2, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
i saved 15% or more on my car insurance by switching to geico.
July 2, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
TPM, you are really pissing me off.
Maybe you guys need to stop regurgitating the same shit put out by other papers, and stick with what works: your OWN investigative journalism!
July 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
If this lie -- Obama got a sweet deal from Countrywide -- is whispered and repeated, it'll take on a life of its own. That makes it news. Do I want to know about it? Hell, yes!
Meanwhile, if you're really pissed off, do something constructive about it.
WaPo is one of the few newspapers that has an ombudsman (aka public editor). Her name is Deborah Howell. You can send her e-mail at ombudsman@washpost.com or via this web comment page.
July 2, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like here at TPMEC ? Don't you think that Eric should have exposed that lie instead of just parroting WaPo ?
July 2, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
TPM-EC is not known for this. But, wouldn't be cool if it was. Or simply some original analysis of what's out there. Greg does have some fine moments, however, I'll give him that.
July 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
No but TPM started out as an opposition research group for HRC...guess that is why they post the stories they do on Obama.
July 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually TPM, keep up the good work. I never read the WashPo so I like getting this sort of sleaze so I can write them and remind them that they need to act like journalists at least every once in awhile.
July 2, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll be interesting to hear what McCain has to say in Mexico. The interesting thing is that any real solution to the immigration situation lies in economic development in Mexico. That's how the EU prevented the opening of Eastern Europe from producing the predicted flood of immigrants into Western Europe. Plus, it seems to be one of the few subjects that McCain actually cares about.
However, for a Republican, that runs up against the business wing's desire for cheap exploitable labor, the nativist wing's opposition to doing anything for brown people, and the know-nothing dittoheads' belief that half of their taxes go to foreign aid, which is all wasted through corruption.
So will he actually say something substantive, or just pander for votes?
July 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
TPM only regurgitates stories when the slam Obama.
When the Times and ABC went after Hillary in January, Greg's post was all about how things weren't as bad as the MSM made them seem.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/176436.php
TPM just doesn't like Obama.
July 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a steaming load of horseshit and you know it.
July 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've never purchased a house but just out of curiosity, could having made a larger than average down payment affect the interest rate?
July 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Should help you get a lower rate. Considered less of a risk because you're unlikely to walk away from a mortgage (even during tough times) if you have 20-30% of your money already invested.
July 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
McShame just paid back taxes owed in California and owes $250,000 in credit card bills. Wanna bet he's getting breaks that we don't get?
July 2, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I forgot about that. Why on earth would you have such huge credit card debt, but no mortgages (which are much much much cheaper than credit card debt) as the article states. I doubt it's anything devious, but it says something about their financial management.
July 2, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Check any site that collects mortgage rates from multiple lenders, and you can always find differences in rates of more than thirty basis points for the same kind of loan.
Check out credit-card info, however, and you aren't likely to get a card with a 0% rate except as a short-term promo. The McCains appear to be an exception:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/13/ready-to-laugh-at-mccain_n_107008.html
Hey, WaPo, how about checking out that six-figure card balance the McCains have at 0% courtesy of American Express? That debt is bigger than many American's mortgages.
July 2, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
0% from AMEX? That has got to be a sweetheart deal. I've dealt with American Express & I can tell you they are vicious bastards who will pop your interest rate through the ceiling for being one day late.
July 2, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
In other news: Obama saved 15% for more on car insurance.
July 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sent to the Post:
What is the Washington Post doing? Don't you care about your own credibility? Your story "Obama Got Discount on Home Loan" was poorly researched and filled with irrelevant and inflammatory statements that smack of smear tactics.
Lots of people borrowed at the same rate at the same time, 5.625% in 2006, even without Obama's credit and stability. Could your reporter not have looked up the prevailing interest rates at the time (hint. try the Google)? Instead, you imply that Obama got a sweetheart deal that "saved him $300 a year." Even without any "sweetheart deal" I know people who got better rates than Obama. So what?
You then mention Countrywide, which implies something shady, but Obama's loan had nothing to do with Countrywide. You mention that employees of his bank contributed to his campaign (under 10% of the total they gave to support chosen candidates). And? Are you implying that the bank gave Obama a sweet deal then coerced their employees to give to his campaign? Why would you question that 10% of total donations would go to a popular hometown Senate candidate?
Finally, you throw in Rezko, who had nothing to do with this loan.
This is a pitiful performance for a paper which formerly enjoyed a reputation for accuracy.
July 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink