Who Knows What The Clintons Are Thinking? Only The Clintons Do.
Between now and Hillary's eventual exit from the race (however and whenever it happens), you will read hundreds, if not thousands, of words telling you what anonymous aides and "advisers" (whatever that means) say the Clintons are thinking and plotting and doing.
So, a quick word to the wise: Only the Clintons know what the Clintons are thinking. And folks who tell you otherwise are full of it, even if they work for a reputable news organization.
Just thought you should know.
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This piece by Hillary Rosen doesn't purport to know what Hillary Clinton is thinking but it's a very nice statement from a woman Democrat and former Hillary supporter of her disappointment with Hillary:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/i-am-not-a-bargaining-chi_b_105133.html
June 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was actually surprised by that piece as well and I was surprised by taylor marsh's position. It's amazing and sad that tpm has not done the same. This is historic and tpm is more concerned about the clintons' egos.
June 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
What position of Taylor Marsh'?
I must have missed this -
June 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday she said that she would back obama even before the polls closed and on her website she is allegedly calling his win historic, which it is. I was just surprised that she wasn't part of the clintons in denial support group.
June 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. I'm impressed. She was as partisan as it gets and that is really big of her.
Honest to god, here's a big shout out to Taylor Marsh for being a grown-up.
June 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, I was shocked when she said what she said. I couldn't believe it. She didn't even whine or complain or anythng. Why can't the clintons be decent? It really is disgusting.
June 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of denial, Hillaryis44.org 's main headline right now is "When Will Obama Concede?"
June 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if you are not giving her a touch more credit than she deserves. She quite pointedly did not say that she would back Obama; she has made quite a point of it over the last few weeks (and again today) to say that if Clinton were to have taken the nomination, she would work to get Clinton elected, but if Obama were to take the nomination she would work to stop John McCain. In other words, she has not promised to back Obama, just to oppose McCain. Not nothing, to be sure, but not quite the same thing as saying "we all need to get behind the nominee."
June 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't want to give her credit, but I saw it with my own eyes last night on tv.
June 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Taylor Marsh is a media wannabe / opportunist who is shifting her position gradually, in order to remain relevant for the next eight to sixteen years.
At the same time she says she will back Obama, she also posted pretty positively this morning about McCain's strong efforts to court Clinton voters... for the best possible informational reasons, I'm sure.
Frankly, I think I'm still waiting for her to post the real, unfudged popular vote totals, or to post about Obama winning in Montana, as I hear they had a primary last night too.
Apparently, a 16 point win with twice the total vote total and a significantly larger margin than Hillary's win in South Dakota doesn't rate anymore. Go figure...
June 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
From Reuters:
Auspicious for Obama?
There is a tide in the affairs of men.
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
OTOH, Hillaristas would point out those words were spoken by Brutus :-)
June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link, Tena.
June 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is a very promising sign, especially coming from an ardent Clinton supporter.
June 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Aargh!
June 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's becoming less important what either is thinking.
They are overplaying their hand.
June 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
They done overplayed it already.
;)
June 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think they (The Clintons) are going to try to rob Obama of this moment by making it about "what will she do next?", will she be the "VP", "Should she be" etc. I think they will attempt this and use it as leverage for their own power gains (or attempts to hold on to power).
They are Liebermanizing themselves. A gambit, Lieberman will regret after the elections, I hope.
If the Clintons do try this, we'll have front row seats, for I'm sure TPM EC will have all the updates, be on all the right phone calls, with the fingers to the pulse on of all things Clinton.
June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Indie Pro. To take a step back, can we even be sure both Clintons are thinking the same thing? To take a further step back, can we be sure Bill knows what Bill is thinking?
Returning to the topic at issue, I definitely sense that Hillary doesn't realize that pocket 8s aren't going to carry this hand. Last night was a perfect opportunity to be gracious, suspend her campaign and indicate that her focus is on pointing out to the American people, regardless of ideology, why John McCain should not be the next President of the United States. It was an incredible moment, and her part of it was, frankly, lacking. That doesn't even have to mean endorsing Obama, leaving the race, or anything. If you want to spend the months between now and August running a parallel General Election campaign, be my guest.
She lost what little remained of my respect for her candidacy when she decided to hold her rally in a bunker and bask in the chants of "Denver! Denver! Denver!" Yes, that is where our convention is going to be held. Yes, that is where we will formally crown our nominee. And yes, all but the 200 people in that room at that moment knew exactly who that nominee was going to be. Way to make an ass out of your supporters.
June 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Last night was a perfect opportunity to be gracious, suspend her campaign and indicate that her focus is on pointing out to the American people, regardless of ideology, why John McCain should not be the next President of the United States. It was an incredible moment, and her part of it was, frankly, lacking."
Totally agree. If she had prepared the troops right (she did the absolute opposite), she even could have rousingly introduced Obama at the podium last night instead of having her divisive event in New York. This only seems unrealistic because we have gotten to know her so well, unfortunately.
June 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know what Bill is thinking...
"I want my money back!"
June 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gee, thanks gregg. Did you turn in your expenses, along with reciepts? The deadline is friday. Just thought you should know.
June 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
heh heh, snicker snicker
June 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very, very nice, Michael - me likey!!!! ;)
June 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn Greg, I could kill your boss - how long is that ad with the damn spiders crawling around going to be on my screen?
I want to know who in the ad world thought that was a good idea - I'm willing to bet that arachnephobia is one of the most common phobias -
June 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hate spiders. I liked the bats, though, of course.
It would seem that yesterday all the Obama ads vanished. Don't blame TPM -- I think they use a system the puts ads up that match certain keywords. So what happened was Obama dropped his internet ads from the primary for what may be ads taking a more presidential angle. But in the meantime, click the red thing and you might win a thing.
June 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course - I love bats, too.
I've been there at the Congress St. bridge in Austin when the millions of Mexican freetails took off to go hunt the Hill Country at sundown. It was one of the most awesome experiences of my life.
June 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a beautiful sight.
June 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Second only to snakes, as of my decades-ago Psych 101 class.
June 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you Indiana Jones?
June 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Their bizarre behavior makes that all too clear.
As I've written elsewhere, I think if she needs time drop out on her own terms, that's fine.
What's not fine is that every word out of her mouth last night was designed to inflame resentment among her supporters and create the impression that the election was stolen from her, rather than something she lost fair and square, by rules she agreed to play by before the campaign. What she should have been doing was laying the groundwork for her supporters to back Obama.
Which is further evidence that for Hillary, this is about her, not about party or country.
The only good news, I suppose, is that if this is part of a strategy to blackmail their way onto the ticket, it is destined to fail. For why would Obama ever in a million years pick someone who behaves like that?
June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, when you say "full of it", you mean the reputable organization that supplied this gem:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/why_does_hillary_continue_beca_1.php
Right?
June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oooooooooooo Snap!
June 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
hahahaha, good one
in that post, I think I made it clear that I was guessing, opposed to news orgs who will report as fact what anonymous aides say they're thinking.
missed that distinction, didn't ya
June 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Plural "Clintons"?
Maybe that was her big problem all along.
June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely, one of a handful of big problems that I believe cost her the nomination. She should have sent mr. bill to bora, bora. I firmly believe that he caused more harm than good and overshadowed her. It really seemed like mr. bill was running for a third term.
June 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Deep thought of the day.
June 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's "concession" speech last night was hilarious. Heads exploded all over Obama's blogs.
McCain's speech was just awful but the gop have this:
"For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.
The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale."
The Obama's hate whitey.
June 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cSAW2Olz3gU
June 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, they said they'd release it today, right? So I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
June 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, actually they said they'd release it Monday, and then they said they'd release it Tuesday, and now they're saying today. What a crock of bullshit. This is taking on mythic proportions, isn't it? :D
June 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're not going to see anything. So swifboaters can keep talking about it. Spread it around like the Obama-is-a-secret-Muslim rumor.
We're not going to see anything, because then objective people will note that Michelle is saying "Why'd he," not "whitey."
June 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
hey hey hey, remember the last time, not too long ago when you were posting all over the place the latest Freeper bullshit, and like nothing ever came of it. Yeah. I'm expecting the same here.
You're an echo chamber of one, and your shouting gibberish.
June 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, Barack wanted to say congratuations to Hillary Clinton and her supporters on the campaign they ran...
Thanks for keepin' it classy, gotalie! Better luck next time, eh?!
Now on to the White House!
June 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Clintons are thinking the following things.
1) Holy shit, we owe the campaign how much? Damn, Bill, can you call your friends in the middle east, you know, those terrorist supporting fucktards, and have them pay off our debt? No? Okay, well I'll tell everyone to visit my website; maybe we can make some money that way.
2) It's mine! I win! I win! Fuck Obama, Fuck the Democratic Party, fuck everything, I'm owed the presidency. Bill, you promised me if I put up with your poor-penis control issues I could be President. Tell them I'm President Bill. Bill? Hey, get your damn hands off the waitress Bill, try to focus for a second, this is my night, you have to tell everyone that I'm the President!
3) Did someone on CNN just call me a deranged narcissist? Can they say that?
June 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
O my god you have a direct line!
Instead of Being John Malkovich, you can "be" Hillary Clinton. And I'm sure you want to be, too. LOL!!!!!
June 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
On point 1, it's more like holy shit we took all those hundreds of millions of dollars in "donations" to the "foundations" and owe big time political favors for the cash. We "solicited" those "donations" based on the promise that we would return to the white house and give the "donors" favors. How on earth are we going to pay up? Obama won't let us do favors for payback. Guido will be showing up at the door any day now to collect.
June 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I could not care less what the Clintons are thinking today. here's my post about what really is the issue in my mind today.
I'm wondering about our undeclared SD's and what party they represent today and for tomorrow. All of them who don't announce today are pandering to a deranged and delusuinal individual who absolutley deserves the total respect of the GOP for crafting a ploy to undermine the democratic party nominee. I have emailed several of them and will not retreat from giving them until the end of today to endorse. there is no acceptable execuse or reason to delay. Barack has won and to the winner goes their support.
Hillary played all the media for fools yesterday but today she is playing the undeclared SD's for fools!
June 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Stooopit tags.
Hey Greg - were you talking about Fineman in this post? He sure purports to be able to read her mind -
June 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clintons? Hillary? Oh, wait. I remember them. They used to be relevant.
When/if she concedes has ceased to matter.
On to November.
June 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, just ignore them and move on. They haven't been relevant since february, except causing damage and helping the republican nominee. Bottom line, just ignore them.
June 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
In a strange paradox, she can become relevant only by stopping this Quixotic crusade and getting behind the nominee. The longer she holds out the more marginalized she becomes.
Maybe she's holding out for VP, but IMO that's a bad idea for both of them. She could have much more influence as a Senator from NY than being the President's understudy for the next four years.
June 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. Hour by hour, the longer the clintons screw around the more marginal they become. She would have been better off handling last night in a completely different way. Long term, it's probably better that they are doing what they are doing. She will be relegated to the back bench of the senate and no one will want to cooperate with her because she pissed off the president. Too funny.
June 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it was a particulary good idea for Hillary just the throw in towel - since her voters need a cool-off period after aggressively saying she would not leave the race. Hillary can simply suspend her campaign - that it'll give a her voters a chance to see Obama on the TV against McCain and move on.
June 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
She can say whatever she wants. The campaign is over. There is nothing to suspend in any event. I say just ignore the clintons at this point.
June 4, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
hell..sorry for my mis-spellings today...I'm still at a slow boil stage from the last night.
June 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Will you all drop the faux-outrage, please? She's not stealing anything. Obama has his moment. Absorb it. He is the first African American nominated by a major party in the United States. Will you just finally be happy, and drop the Clinton hating for even a day? I'm extremely happy for Obama, and for our country, but when I read your comments it just pisses me off. Why are you trying to further divide our party?
June 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will be happy and stop the Clinton bashing when she stops her deranged, narcissistic Quixotic quest. She showed absolutely NO class and no leadership last night, and she is a disgrace right now. She needs to do the right thing, acknowledge graciously that Obama won (fair and square), and drop the fuck out and get her 18M supporters behind him. Then and only then will I stop the bashing - until then, she's fair game.
June 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
And you have the nerve to ask why WE'RE trying to further divide the party? What a fucking joke - did you hear her once say that she was getting behind Obama and that her supporters should do the same? No - it was all about her last night. I call bullshit on your accusation. The only one keeping the divide alive right now is Hillary Clinton.
June 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. I've heard her several times say that we should unite, that we will have a united party, that she will support Obama if he becomes the nominee, on and on and on. But to someone whose hatred floods their mind, how could you possibly hear and process that? You have a problem. You and Tena are pathological. Please get some help. Please just be happy. Don't you want to be happy? You should seriously ask yourselves that.
June 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Honey I'm deliriously happy.
You're the one jumping up and down and squawling about our attitudes and our pathologies - always ours.
Nothing is ever y'alls fault, Hillary never does one wrong thing and we're to blame for everything.
Ok - fine - I couldn't care less what you think. Barack Obama won the nomination and I am about as happy as I've been in at least 16 years.
June 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're always saying you couldn't care less about what so and so thinks. Judging from your posts, you project onto Hillary all the bad things you know about yourself. Selfishness, caring only for yourself, being mean and self-righteous...I'm sad for you. Maybe it's time to start healing yourself.
June 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
"If he becomes the nominee"? Sweetie, HE IS THE NOMINEE!! She needs to get over herself, really. Making vague references to unity and using "if" does not cut it in the least. It was classless and spiteful of her, and showed absolutely no leadership. The only pathological one here is Hillary Clinton. And I will continue to call her out on her bullshit until she does the right thing.
Believe me, I couldn't be happier today if I tried. This is right up there with the births of my children, my marriage to my beloved husband, and the Red Sox winning in 2004 (believe me, that was a biggie!!) :D
June 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
"If he becomes the nominee"? Sweetie, HE IS THE NOMINEE!!
Yes, he is. And she will support him. But she certainly can take the time to figure out how to properly end her historic run. Will you ever just let her be and acknowledge that she is certainly entitled to take a little time to figure things out? You want Obama to make reasoned and well-thought out decisions, but you won't give Hillary the time.
June 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Take a little time? Her situation has been basically hopeless for three months. If she hasn't thought about how to end this by now, then she's been too deep in denial to qualify for President of anything.
June 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just as soon as you quit accusing us of causing friction and divisiveness.
June 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're partly right. But this is a thread on Clintons/Clinton/What are the Clintons doing?/What are the Clintons thinking?
I'm happy. I think what's going to happen is that Obama will shop around for a VP for the next couple months and fight McCain. The media will treat him as the obvious nominee. And Clinton will sputter a bit for a week with drama that all will tire of.
June 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing faux about it me again. She cannot bring herself to say "congratulations" to the winner of the primary. Obama supporters are very happy, believe me, but HRC's persistent threats have a way of dampening the euphoria. The Clintons are not to be trusted, so as long as she's standing behind Obama, jumping up and down and waving her arms at the cameraman, there will be some outrage.
June 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
What?
Is Hillary Clinton thinking?
June 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fun with grammar:
What is Hillary Clinton thinking?!
Hillary Clinton is thinking what?!
June 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Four votes. That's what the Clintons can fight about in Denver, those four Michigan votes. If they manage to get those, then its on to the White House!
I thought the reason they were two stories below ground out of range of all wireless communication and with no TV screens was that the Clinton cult would end in a mass suicide. But no, Hillary gave them hope to fight on!
June 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Correction needed for blog title:
"Who Cares What The Clintons Are Thinking. Only The Clintons Do."
June 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Everyone out of the bunker except Wolfson, Ickes, Penn and Bill!"
June 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
In St. Paul last night there was unity. Clinton supporters were at that speech, they cheered for her and they cheered for Obama. They knew it was a historic occassion. They knew Obama was the rightful nominee. Last night, was a powerful night. So many diverse people with diverse backgrounds coming together for political action and to celebrate. We were united in our want to change the country and improve all our lives. We were united in our desire to end the war and bring healthcare to the masses. We were united against the GOP and everything McCain represents. I left feeling like we were family, united in our goals and dreams, united through our hard, long fight, through the tremendous candidates we had this year (and they ALL were terrific this year, really). We were proud of Obama and of Clinton. All of us. Democrats stood toghether last night in St. Paul. Now it's time for Hillary to stand with us. I hope she will join us and her supporters that were there last night cheering on Obama and the coming Democrat victory in the fall.
June 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for that. I want to hear more stories from people who were at the speech last night.
June 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can tell you what Clinton is not thinking about. Clinton is not thinking about withdrawing from the race anytime soon and turning right and supporting Obama the next day. That's not happening, nor should it.
For reference.. Dodd withdrew Jan 3, but did not endorse Obama until Feb 26. Richards withdrew Jan 10, but did not endorse until Mar 21. Biden withdrew Jan 3 and Kuninich Jan 25, neither has endorsed.
Edwards did not withdraw. He suspended Jan 30 and didn't endorse Obama until May 15.
Give Clinton a month. We'll find out exactly what the Clinton's are thinking after the Fourth of July.
June 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Obama has won. Let's take the high road and be gracious. Let's give Clinton some space, some time to heal, and some time to get fired up again. Her supporters will come around if they have not already. I think a month sounds about right. A 4th of July speech by her endorsing Obama could be really exciting.
I really hope Clinton does come around and campaign for Obama. Many of her supporters were at Obama's speech last night. If they can put aside there issues and support Obama, well, I just hope she can join them and support her supporters and they have supported her.
June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Situation is entirely different. There is no question now about the party nominee. You are either behind him, or you are not behind him.
June 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know how many of you here are familiar with Ajahn Brahm, a brilliant Buddhist teacher out of Perth, Australia, but he speaks in one of his dhamma talks about something that might speak to all of this. He talks about "the controller", that little voice inside your head that chatters and chatters away, trying to convince you that you control everything and if you don't get your way then life has been horribly unfair and robbed you. This is often referred to alternatively in Buddhism as the Ego. Ajahn Brahm observes that if you don't learn how to quiet or transcend this voice, eventually you just become neurotic or a full-on mental case.
Not sayin', ya know... just sayin'.
June 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I resent that I'm even supposed to care about these two, who are just so "last week."
June 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Check the TPM threads for Obama's speech last night if you'd be interested in my further thoughts from last night.
June 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll give props to everyone who deserves them - see my shout-out to Taylor Marsh.
Beyond that it's up to me to decide how I feel. ;)
June 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about especially if they work for a reputable news organization?
June 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's obvious what they're thinking about: themselves. That's what they've always thought about. And it's one of the main reasons she lost this primary and has now lost out on getting the VP.
Their selfishness is what led them to avoid campaigning for Kerry in 2004 and other Dems in 2006. And that came back to bite them when most of these same Democrats endorsed Obama in 2008.
Their selfishness is what led them to keep fighting and hurting Obama even when it was clear he would win and now has won. They don't care about winning. And at this point, they don't even care about getting the VP since they know it won't happen. They just want to hurt him enough that he doesn't win the Presidency and Hillary can run again in 2012.
And folks who tell you any different are full of it. Just thought you should know.
June 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
What are the Clintons thinking?
Twenty. Twelve.
June 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
enough clinton. please please please enough.
June 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a message link for Hillary. Oddly(?), there seems to be no link to it from her home page. But it works, at least in the sense that it gets you an automatic reply.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
June 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is Hillary thinking? If anybody cares
1) Does this pantsuit make me look fat?
2) Is it really possible that I can have 18 million fans, an ex-President for a husband, be on the news every night, and be 7 million in debt and NOT be the next President of the United States? I mean, WTF? Where's the humanity?
3) How could the Beatles have had so many fans and NOT wanted to be President of the United States? What was wrong with them?
June 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
How bizarre is this. Late, late into last night, a pundit said that he had it from a 'very' reliable source that Obama was thinking of making Bill his campaign manager. Really, no tongue-in-cheek, no, honestly.
That's got to have come from the Clinton camp. What further proof is needed that the Clintons have gone 'clinical' on us.
June 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
naming him as one of his campaign chairs. There are several. it is an honorary position, mostly, maybe even a kind of advisory group. But he did not say and did not mean an active role in directing his campaign in any way shape or form.
More like, let's show Bill we are interested in his ideas about how to win this election, and give him an official title of respect.
June 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the idea.... Bill certainly has good political instincts, even if they may be better suited to a '90s electorate than today's.
June 4, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh no. Sorry. I have to disagree with you on that one. There are tons of people who know exactly what the Clintons are thinking. Just look at the Cafe section. Lots of folks have been saying all along what the Clintons are thinking. They don't all agree with each other. But they know, and they have no problem sharing their information with us. I do agree with you however that they are full of it.
June 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's speech: Remarkable--what Jeff Toobin described as "deranged narcissism".
This speech--its very essence--was predicted on May 23rd:
Why Hillary should not be VP:
From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/head-of-state-reasons-that-hillary.html
Friday, May 23, 2008
Head of State: The Reasons That Hillary Should Not Be Vice President
Regarding Hillary Clinton as Barack Obama's running mate:
Originally, this seemed to be a potentially plausible choice--and if presented in the following way, could turn her divisive campaign into a potential coup as a VP candidate. The thinking was the following:
Hillary has run a divisive campaign. Now, just as the nation should mend its divisions in favor a greater unity that would serve the greater needs of our country, so now they would explicitly put these divisions behind them, in the interests of the unity that this nation, after a bitter and divisive Administration, is so in need of. This would serve as a powerful and vibrant example of the very ability to unify that Obama both offers and represents.
However, this would require a candidate that was willing to take such a position of relative shared selflessness in the interests of a greater good. While the Vice Presidency certainly offers its honors (now far beyond the "warm pitcher" of John Vance Garner's famous phrase) and positioning for later Presidential aspirations, such a plan would require the ability to think in terms of a shared effort based on the betterment of the nation, rather than in more grasping, combative and singular terms.
The Clinton camp's behavior over this past week has made such a positive scenario clearly untenable, showcasing the same characteristics that have signified her campaign throughout its long, chaotic march--its contradictions of previous statements when such changes have a slight possibility of adding a week or two of vitality, its sudden and implausible use of populist guises and specious historical parallels for transparently opportunistic purposes, its near-hallucinogenic transmogrifications of personality and central bases for further continuation,
and the central campaign tendency to place personal attainment over virtually all values that lay in its path.
These characteristics--self over nation, positioning over a consistent presentation of position, values and even self, the willingness to put personal viability over the need to transcend and transform the vast wreckage of state and international relations that remains at this critical time--are as present now, at a moment when wisdom rather than a remorseless, obdurate desperation could fill this gap, as they have been throughout much of the campaign. They would continue to make themselves present during a Clinton campaign for vice president, complicating, diminishing and often distracting from, in trivial internecine battles, the message of unity and change.
Perhaps Clinton could adopt a more unifying, integrated and less grasping position on the VP subject. However, thus far, the actions of the Clinton camp have made it clear: It's time to clean the slate. Hillary Clinton should not be the Vice Presidential candidate.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/head-of-state-reasons-that-hillary.html
June 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg: "Only the Clintons know what the Clintons are thinking."
I think it's a mistake to assume the Clintons know what they're thinking.
June 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
As the real Gotalife. I concede.
This has been a long, hard battle.
My thinking was minimal.
My rhetoric, hateful.
Grammar, atrocious.
But I have lost. Truly, today, I am an absolute loser.
Please ignore ALL POSTS by me from now on, which is the work of unscrupulous imposters.
I shall blog no more, forever.
But just think about what you're missing. You won't have Gotalife to kick around anymore.
June 4, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink