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The Final Event Of Hillary's 502-Day Presidential Campaign
Hillary will endorse Obama tomorrow at noon, at the National Building Museum, in Washington, D.C. It will almost certainly receive wall-to-wall coverage.
The moment will come exactly one year and 137 days since she released this YouTube on January 22, 2007, announcing her candidacy...
It will have taken Obama 502 days to defeat Hillary and her formidable political operation and get her concession.
But defeat her he did.
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And now four of the last six TPM Election Central posts have been about Hillary.
Just saying.
June 6, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, she's super duper important.
June 6, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
here's a thought: as a clinton supporter, you NEED my vote. so why do you keep pissing us off?
i know you would hate do admit it, but we have the power to leave you crying in november.
so why don't you try to repair the bridge, instead of acting like a 10 year-old? it's you very behavior that is turning so many off of obama. do you realize that?
June 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is another thought. Why would you even consider holding the entire country hostage because your mad? Get over it. Hillary lost way back in March and should not have put herself in debt on a Fools Quest. She took time and money away from the main goal here. In case you forgot, that goal is to take back the White House. I wanted Wes Clark to be the nominee in 04, but I got over it and fully supported Kerry for the good of the country. Now, it is YOUR turn to suck it up and soldier forward. The things that piss you off now will pale in comparison to a McCain presidency.
June 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hill-a-ree all de time at TPM Election Central. It was really lovely how Eric took an hour and a half to post the Obama speech youtube video, while it took him a scant twenty minutes to post the Clinton and McCain videos apart.
June 6, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quality content requires more care?
June 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel you. You think we get a post on McCain's umpteenth senior moment regarding his opposition to the Everglades bill, but nope. Wall-to-wall coverage of the Clinton Death Spiral.
It's sad when TPM is getting scooped (regularly) by Halperin.
June 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a pathetic joke.
June 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not only here....
We all know that CNN has been the ever loyal Clinton Noise Network, and I can barely watch, but last night, I was watching Anderson Cooper for a bit and it was pathetic! They kept showing a running loop of Hillary pictures, both stills and video, endlessly on a GIANT background screen.
How many picture or videos of Obama?
Big fat ZERO!!! (during the time I watched.)
I have to swear off of Anderson Cooper for good after that one.
June 6, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but this isn't CNN. It's not supposed to be driven by what corp. media dictates is the story.
It's a political blog which I thought was there to drive the stories that weren't being covered properly in the media.
Not the other way around.
June 6, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, which is why I'm glad for an assortment of sights, yours being up there.
June 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
sites, not sights...:)
June 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
my blog? No one ever visit my blog. :-(
June 6, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I stopped watching the clinton news network long, long ago. Totally pathetic. But oh the media has been so mean to the clintons. Unbelievable.
June 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let the games begin!!!!!
June 6, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Live by the kitchen sink.
Die by the kitchen sink.
June 6, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh that's classic, lol.
June 6, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good grief. Will this event also mean an end to the endless Hillary posts on this site? Probably not.
June 6, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your avatar is just splendid :). I really want to watch that movie again now.
June 7, 2008 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad she's doing this, but can't help thinking she's doing this to merely get the last word in regarding the primary...
A primary she lost!
June 6, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary who?
June 6, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel like the media is going through withdrawal pains. They've been jacked up on Clinton-drama for 502 days.
June 6, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well Thank God. Finally some one pays a little
attention to Hillary. I was worried that TPM seemed to have forgotten all about her.
Next time TPM, try not to make it so long between Hillary threads.
June 6, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
"And be sure to go to my website...say it with me, everyone...HillaryClintonTheThingThatWouldntLeave.com" YAAAAAY!!!"
June 6, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we please start talking about McCain?
I want to know where McCain gets his dehydrated babies? Was that why Republicans were so gungho to attack Iraq? Did Saddam Hussein stockpile illegal stores of dehydrated babies? I know that this is silly, but so is talking about Hillary Fuckin Clinton!
June 6, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bwhahahahahaha!
News of the day.
Tell me, how's Generalissimo Francisco Franco?
Unbelievable. Did you make a pledge at the last Clinton event you "covered" to keep the love light glowing or what?
June 6, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you think we should be talking about George Washington's most recent gaffe?
June 6, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI, he's still dead. Back to you, Chevy.
June 6, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
502 days? Amazing.
We're all going to have to go through withdrawal.
This obsession with all things Clinton is another solid reason why HRC isn't going to be the Veep.
In a week that should have been focused on Obama, HRC has been in the news continually. Same thing would happen if she were Veep.
Enough with the drama.
June 6, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
CT Voter,
Maybe that's the idea...don't forget that Terry, Wolfie and Attack Dog Ickes are still on the payroll...beyond Friday.
June 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton met rival Barack Obama face-to-face with no one else present, hours before her campaign formally announced she would endorse him Saturday at an event in Washington.
California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday the two Democratic presidential candidates arrived separately at her home for their Thursday night meeting. Feinstein said she took them to her living room, where they sat "in two comfortable chairs facing one another" and then she left the room. No one else was present during the meeting and nothing was served except water.
"There was a desire on both sides, I think, to have private meeting," Feinstein said.
The two candidates emerged laughing from their hour-long meeting.
The California senator had gone up stairs to do her own work when the meeting began at 9 p.m. EDT.
"They called me when it was over," Feinstein said. "I came down and said, 'Good night everybody, I hope you had a good meeting.' They were laughing, and that was it."
On Friday, Clinton's campaign said she would deliver her formal endorsement of Obama at a noon gathering at the National Building Museum and urge Democrats to unite behind his candidacy. Obama clinched the nomination Tuesday after primaries in Montana and South Dakota.
Clinton and Obama went to great lengths to keep their meeting a secret from the media beforehand.
Feinstein, who had supported Clinton throughout the primaries, told reporters the former first lady called her Thursday afternoon and asked for the use of her house.
Obama "was very gracious," Feinstein said. "He said he would go wherever, whenever Sen. Clinton wanted."
"This is a deeply personal time, too, you know," Feinstein said. "Barack is trying to put things together for a major presidential campaign. There are a lot of decompression and nerve endings that need to come together."
One of Clinton's top supporters, fellow New York Sen. Charles Schumer, said Friday that Clinton would agree to be Obama's running mate if he offered the No. 2 spot to her.
"She has said if Sen. Obama should want her to be vice president and thinks it would be best for the ticket, she will serve, she will accept that. But on the other hand, if he chooses someone else she will work just as hard for the party in November," Schumer told ABC's "Good Morning America."
Schumer said the meeting between Clinton and Obama was not about the vice presidency.
His comments came a day after a Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson denied reports that Clinton was actively campaigning to be on the ticket.
"She is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her," Wolfson said Thursday. "The choice here is Sen. Obama's and his alone."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who had remained uncommitted throughout the primaries, endorsed Obama Friday.
Obama is "a once-in-a-generation leader who connects with the hopes and dreams of the American people and will deliver the long-overdue change that our country desperately needs," the Nevada Democrat said in a statement.
June 6, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Otto, you write excellently! Perhaps you should consider a career in journalism.
Just remember, though, they're pretty much sticklers when it comes to that plagarism thing.
June 6, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
June 6, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since he started running on February 10, 2007, I'd suggest it only took him 483 days to get her concession her.
And since it has been pretty much impossible for her to win since losing 11 straight contest in February, 2008, I'd subtract another 100 days.
So really he beat her in about 375 days or a little over a year.
June 6, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's using Clintonian math.
If Michigan's votes count even if Obama's name wasn't on the ballot, then surely the days prior to Obama's announcement should count as well.
June 6, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I want to hear from HRC, in addition to unconditional support for the nominee:
- FL and MI were seated fairly according to the rules committee.
- Obama did not cheat, nor did anyone push me out of the race (even though her party did have to push her to concede).
- There will be a woman president, just not me.
- Reiterate that they should support whoever Obama puts on the ticket, even if it's not her.
- Anything else to refute all the lies she told that still have her rabid, 'I'm voting for McCain' supporters still screaming for vengeance.
June 6, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't count on it.
The rally cry still seems to be 18 million (more than him), then some backhanded praise of his campaign.
I'd wager she says 18 million more than 3 times in tomorrow's "consession".
June 6, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a good bet. I'd even go as high as 7.
June 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I assume then, this will be Election Central's final article on her as she no longer has anything to to with this election.
June 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, aside from the inevitable "Hillary launches daring casino heist to pay off campaign debt" post, yep.
June 6, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's 11.
Mark Penn can play Rusty.
June 6, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would be nice and a fair reflection of responsible journalism to boot.
Question is, is Greg up to the task? I don't think so. Greg's residual loyalties, makes him all too happy to lap up the latest tidbit that can in some way continue to prop up HRC's ambitious need to remain relevant.
Time to stick a fork in this Greg, as painful as it is, or at the very least, take this HRC stuff within the greater context that Obama is the nominee and we are in the GE. Novel idea, isn't it?
June 6, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't either.
June 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't either what? Have a brain?
June 7, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cute. Nice to come across you there, cheeky little monkey.
Trolling away as usual, as you gnaw on your broken spirit.
June 8, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Inevitibility is Nothing!
June 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah! I was going to post that as well. Congrats everyone, we did it!
June 6, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
calling idiotic......
One last hillmentum ???
June 6, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm actually feeling optimistic about Hillary's role in this campaign. She has a lot to be proud of, and I'm sure she has some regrets. But she is also one of the best politicians we have in our party. We need her. She has the connections to a 20 year old machine that can get Obama elected. Granted, he needs that machine much less than Kerry did, and we can all argue that Hillary could have done more to work for Kerry.
Anyway, I think she might surprise you with what she says tomorrow and how she conducts herself moving forward. But after the Tuesday speech, it's reasonable to expect the worst. I'm trying, with gritted teeth at times, to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm hoping that she just wanted time to create the perfect concession/endorsment speech that gets us all fired up and ready to hand McCain's ass to him in November.
June 6, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, excuse me my stupidity, I am only a dog, but if she endorses him, does that mean she releases all her pledged delegates, like John Edwards did?
June 6, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's my impression that you can't "release" delegates - because you don't exactly "possess" them in the first place. As Mrs. Clinton has pointed out several times this nomination season, delegates (pledged or super) can vote however they want at the convention. When the candidate you're backing tells you to support another candidate, though, it's essentially releasing them to back that other candidate.
June 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Todays posts on TPM (by subject matter):
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Edwards: 1 (12.5%)
Lieberman: 1 (12.5%)
McCain: 2 (25%)
Clinton: 4 (50%)
Obama: 0 (0%)
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With the addition of yet another inane article, Hillary Clinton has once again sewn up the important TPM coverage vote. Polling shows resistance to her success, but it simply was not enough to counteract the powerful head-up-his-ass denial of Greg Sargent.
I think it's safe to say that Obama will never be able to overtake her commanding lead in the remaining hours. Even with a strong evening showing, the numbers just can't add up. We've got to call this one for Hillary. TPM will be covering her acceptance speech later this evening.
June 6, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still want to hear more about what Fineman was talking about on MSNBC on Tuesday night about a deal between HRC and Obama that Obama would only ask her to be VP if she agreed, in writing, to NOT accept. I haven't heard anything since.
June 6, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
given the way this has played out "final event" is not in her vocabulary...
June 6, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope.
June 6, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
She cannot lose any of her delegates unless she concedes, something she is NOT doing. She's only suspending the campaign....she keeps her delegates AND has the right to jump back into the race at anytime this summer.
June 6, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That sucks.
June 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards fully conceded, allowing his delegates to go to Obama...she's only suspending, meaning she's holding those delegates hostage.
Shrewd move on her part.
June 6, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
PanderBear Romney only suspended his campaign, meaning he still owns all of his delegates...AND can jump back into the race, too.
June 6, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which after McCain's performance the past few days, many in the GOP are secretly hoping for.
June 6, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sowers of discord:
June 6, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama consistenly beats McCain in polling, speeches and overall national impression, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the RNC was able to talk McCain out of running and then McCain suddenly announced in August that "due to the health reasons," he was stepping down....and who would step right in?
PANDER BEAR ROMNEY!!
You heard it here first! I predict this!!
June 6, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like our chances against Romney even better.
June 6, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that would be.... crazy.
The Republicans ONLY hope is somehow the Moderates in this country buy into the media's projection of McCain as "independent."
Notice I don't say "buy into McCain's campaign", because even his campaign is doing a horrible job at making McCain out to be anything other than a 3rd Bush Term. Hell, he's bringing back Phil Gramm! As his economic advisor! "That's not change you can believe in."
Ok, maybe you have a point, but I really don't see how a right-wing Mormon would get any more votes than a crazy old man...
June 6, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
If an African American with a middle name of Hussein and two years of senate experience can win the Democrats' nomination by beating the most well connected, best financed political machine since Tammany, what's not possible anymore?
June 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of YouTube videos, maybe we can get one more Sopranos ad out of her. I think for this one, Hillary should be digging around in the backyard at Chappaqua, looking for her 30 million dollars, when Bill steps out of the house to see what's going on. Hillary looks up, yells "cazzata Malanga!" at him, and chases him around with the shovel.
FIN
June 6, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A majority of Democrats think Barack Obama should select Hillary Clinton as his running mate, according to a new national poll.
Fifty-four percent of registered Democrats questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll out Friday think Obama should name his rival as his running mate, with 43 percent saying no.
June 6, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
So?
June 6, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! That many don't want her?
Geez, the number who didn't want her used to be ALOT lower. Feel the Hillmemtum!
June 6, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Luckily, we don't chose Presidents or Vice Presidents by Polls.
Hillary has NO chance to be Obama's VP. It would make Obama look weak and unelectable.
June 6, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did the poll Obama? He's the only who's opinion really counts....
June 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
with 43 percent saying no.
June 6, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee,
A poll of 900 people asked if Shrillary should be the VP vs. 200 million who will ACTUALLY vote in November...I think I'll trust the latter on this one. AND, I think they'll vote for Obama no matter what he does or who he picks.
I'm so sick of these polls being taken so soon on this. In July, everyone will have cooled off, calmed down and gotten over her losing.
June 6, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Call me paranoid, which most will, but I've felt since day one that McCain is nothing but a smoke screen and won't be the actual nominee in November. Romney will suddenly become the nominee in October and the DNC will have very little time to retaliate.
Then again, Romney will have very little time to win over those who voted against him in the primaries, too.
But in their eyes, many would prefer Romney the candidate, not McCain.
June 6, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the GOP is stuck between a barely breathing McCain and the frozen smile of Romney, they're seriously fucked.
June 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
heh heh
The state of serious fuckedness is only beginning. Stage to himself for 3 months, McThuseleh is unable to poll out of the low to mid 40s. Ditto many of his GOP incumbents in Congress. Already teetering, the GOP is headed for oblivion. If indictments come next year, they will wander for another 40 years.
If only Sen Clinton would STFU already...I am starting a Will You Please Stop Making That Awful Noise? petition...25,000 sigs should be a snap...
Please, Sen McCain, give more speeches! Green is your color!
June 6, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
McThuselah is new to me, and I am ashamed to say that it pleases me.
June 6, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
my goodness, it always has to be about her, doesn't it? it's a sickness.
June 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
And someone give McCain some Crest Teeth Whiteners...STAT! That fake smile of his is frightening when he flashes those pearly browns!
June 6, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, there were TWO calls today between McCain and Obama on the everglades and there isn't NARY a post on it here. WTF?
June 6, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What else can we say? Greg and Eric are well...they tend to follow the media herd on TV and on right-wing political sites like Politico on the current media narrative which seems to be the odd fixation on Hillary Clinton's chances of VP.
Who cares about an obvious McCain flip-flop on the Everglades when there's a mildly warmed-over video of Hillary Clinton entering the presidential race 502 days ago to post?
June 6, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares about solid, black and white proof of exeutive treason from the Senate?
June 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would require that Greg Sargent put the name of a Black Man in the thread title. That scares him.
June 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for that so called "Michelle video"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/6/123441/5219/827/531074
June 6, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
nice. thx for the heads up.
June 6, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Larry Johnson probably put out an open call on craigslist for Michelle Obama look-alikes. What an imbecile.
June 6, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not an airtight argument--defenders of Larry Johnson might acknowledge the fictional precedent and say it's a case of life imitating art.
That said, the tape doesn't fucking exist.
June 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://raggedthots.blogspot.com/2008/06/michelle-farrakhan-sitting-in-treenot.html
Robert George points out that these sort of rumors about candidates' wives always manage to crop up. Like an alleged video of Kitty Dukakis burning a flag - or Hillary in '92, or Teresa Heinz Kerry.
June 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI: New Rasmussen W. Virginia Poll: M 45% ; O 37% (8 pt. difference after all's said and done. LOL.)
June 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice one, Greg. Very very nicely said.
LOL! this makes me so happy to see - I can't see it enough.
June 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI: New Rasmussen W. Virginia Poll: M 45% ; O 37% (8 pt. difference after all's said and done. LOL.)
June 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feinstien and Schumer feel she go on the ticket as VP..enough said then..it will never happen!
June 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would strongly advise Hillary not to join the ticket with Nobama. I'm a supporter of hers and forever hers. but even if she is on the ticket, I will not be voting for this ticket because I believe Nobama is unfit to be the President of the U.S. I'm confident a lot of people share my sentiment. It has been extremely stressful few months for Hillary and she needs sometime off. Some people argue it is up to Hillary to bring her people to Nobama, even if she is not on the ticket. Therefore, an excuse has already been laid down if Nobama loses in November and sure as hell, he will. Is not Nobama supposed to be a uniter? If he cannot unite the party after he becomes the nominee, how can he unite the country?
It is up to Nobama and him alone to bring the party together. if he is so good, why would he need Clinton? Ask yourself a question, what is in it for Clinton? Damn it she does too much, Damn it she does not do enough. No matter what she does, she will get blamed. Unless Nobama wins, you will always blame her, no matter what she does from here on untill november.
If she really thinks she is better than Nobama, believe you me she does, why become his understudy? When Betsen was Dukakis's running mate, anyone other than Dukakis did not think the ticket should be reversed? Clinton should take her name off VP and declares she will do whatever Nobama asks her to do, nothing more, nothing less and take a few days off if the Senate is not in business.
Just sit tight and wait for Nobama to lose. He will lose so badly that he will really what a bad dream he has been in. Just wait untill 2012. Go Hillary. Hillary in 2012!!!
June 6, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Troll droppings above.
Interesting to see how you are unwilling to engage in any sort of constructive discussion on this site. Sour grapes, I say. Sour grapes. Keep fightin the good fight there Almey May.
June 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Update:
Your comments on this thread, mainly that you outright refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee and are committed to voting for McCain in November does not square with your Reader Post dated today, which invites a discussion on Reforming the Democratic Nomination Process (see link below). What up?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/ideas-for-reforming-democratic.php
June 6, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's not defeated by Obama. She is defeated by the Democrat Party's screwed up system. In fact, she beat your love boy resoundingly in the second half of the game and has consistently shown in various polls that she would have been a better general election candidate than Nobama. It is mindbogging to see each time Hillary beat Obama in a State, Obama got more superdelegate support. Nobama has been arguing for ages that the superdelegates should reflect the wills of the people they represent. Oh, yea, he should ask Jay Rockfeller, Kennedy, Ben Chandler, Robert Byrd to revock their supports for him. How about Tom Daschle and Tim Johnson.
Starting from March 4, Hillary won TX, OH, RI, PA, IN, KY, WA, PR, and SD, that's 9 states. Your love boy won VT, WY, MS, NC, OR, and MT and that
s eight. Who's having a better 2nd half? If you have a brain, you should know. It is not about who you take to the dance. It is about who you take away from the dance. You know that?
If the Democrat Party is stupid enough to stick with a flawed candidate with his flaws revealed late in the game, it is their rights. I will not be caught in a sinking ship. Coming this November, I will be voting for McCain in Shanghai or Hongkong. Dear Hillary, we shall see you in 2012. Please keep fighting and we will be with you when you are up again!!!
June 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
not eight, only six. Go ahead and put together the population or people in the states Hillary won and Nobama won.
To you mindless Obamabots, too bad the general election is not a caucus. Not only you will show up, a lot of people who cannot vote, including soldiers in Iraq will show up and vote. let's find out they will vote for a person of experience and substance or a person with a big mouth and nothing else!!!
June 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, now, troll.
PSA: What do we have here, but another, conflicted Democrat unwilling, or maybe more accurately, unable, to work through their petty ressentiments. Soon enough, this will lead to hatred and eat you up from the inside out. Mind you your clever yet predictable rants,suggest you are well on your way to accomplishing this. Enjoy your symptom.
June 6, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it- Mark Twain.
Buy some damn tissues, hang a used pantsuit you bought on eBay on your wall and take your time before you come to work next time.
June 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did any of you see the story on the front page of TPM about the Clinton's racial strategy, as told by NJ Congressman Rob Andrews?
It's a jaw dropping read.
Also, Al Hunt, a reporter for Bloomberg said on Charlie Rose the other night, that in private, Bill Clinton was saying unrepeatable things about Obama. He also strongly advised Obama not to have Hillary as his VP.
Last February, I went to an Obama event at which one of speakers former supporter of Hillary Clinton, told of some v. heavy handed pressure to remain loyal. She was upset by their tactics in NH, regarding abortion rights. Hillary's camp was sending out flyers that made it seem as though Obama was squishy on Roe v. Wade. The woman who spoke was a past president of the Chicago chapter of NOW, knew Obama and understood the claims to be false.
When she decided to switch her endorsement, she got a call from Bill Clinton, telling her that if she did so, they would see to it that she was kicked off of every board she sat on.
June 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
This story is so stupid that it can only fool you obamabots. How many jews there are in Democratic primary? They were with Hillary all the way and why would she need to do anything to get more of their support. Dont you think it is too stupid and risky for them to try that? Remember this, it is not the jews but working white class people who are more for Hillary. Plenty of Jews, including MJ Rosenberg, Josh Marshall, and the Singer guy at DD, all support Obama.
June 6, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can believe it. btw -The woman from NOW, her name is Lorna Brett Howard, the former President of Chicago NOW.
You can catch her self-made video endorsement on Youbama.com
or at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuMYKs8iJs&feature=related
June 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agrippina,
I can't find that Rob Andrews story. Can you post the link?
June 6, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/superdelegate_says_clinton_cam.html
June 6, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why would Congressman Andrews lie about this? He was a Clinton supporter after all.
Hillary is lucky he didn't come out with this sooner.
June 6, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you mean to say it took Hillary 502 days to give up on beating Obama? Obama couldn't have made her quit so it seems strange to put the active verb on him. And he had effectively won the election by the beginning of March. It's all been shades of windmill-tilting on Hillary's part since then.
June 6, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
DW - consider- If hillary's incredible political machine couldn't get her elected, why should it help get obama elected?
June 6, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, outspend her he did. Play the race card he did. Lose the popular vote he did. But defeat her, he didn't.
June 7, 2008 1:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Still clinging, eh?
June 7, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinging indeed. How can it be any different for rstephen when you think of it.
How, uplifting and constructive rstephen can be, as (s)he continues to publicly fester in her/his own ressentiment. fun.
btw- nice to see you again rstephen, you cheeky little monkey, you.
June 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will have taken Obama 502 days to defeat Hillary and her formidable political operation and get her concession.
Is this Fox News x Ken Burns x Beowulf ???
I welcome the return of actual professional, competent, high class, fact-based journalism from TPM aka the U.S. Attorney General scandal.
Leave telling us the obvious in histrionic, overblown language to Lord Tennyson, Bob Kostas and Larry King.
June 7, 2008 2:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It only took Obama about 400 days to defeat Clinton. The last 100 days was just to get the dishonest press to finally stop milking the story and report it as a win.
June 7, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how many others were threatened. That's the sort of thing that would explain why, when Obama's win was clear 3 months ago, somehow the superdelegates couldn't get their shit together end this.
June 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
So if you reply the check box for reply doesn't get automatically checked. That is not intuitively obvious.
June 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's initially checked, but the box is also selected, so if you hit your space bar to move down, it will unselect the "In reply to" checkbox.
June 7, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why should the comments of a poster on a talk board affect your choice of presidential candidates?
There is a lot at stake for the country this election year. Why would anyone make their choice based on an anonymous snarky comment on a blog?
June 7, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why should the comments of a poster on a talk board affect your choice of presidential candidates?
There is a lot at stake for the country this election year. Why would anyone make their choice based on an anonymous snarky comment on a blog?
June 7, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is really, sincerely, difficult for me to believe that while Obama and Clinton were in her living room discussing whatever they were discussing, that Feinstein had the zen-master-like detachment and control to be just tending to her senatorial matters.
But what do I know?
June 7, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink