Report: Hillary Team Negotiating Future With Obama Campaign
The Huffington Post gets a bit of detail on the behind-the-scenes negotiations that are taking shape between the Hillary and Obama camps -- who's doing the talking for the Hillary team, and what they want...
Three Clinton negotiators -- all confidantes of the Senator and her husband -- have been dispatched to Chicago to spearhead this effort, a source told The Huffington Post. Bob Barnett, a powerhouse Washington lawyer, Cheryl Mills, another lawyer, and Minyon Moore, a political consultant, were meeting today to discuss three key areas of negotiations: what role Hillary Clinton will play at the Democratic convention in August, the nature of her involvement in Obama's general election campaign, and the Obama campaign's plans to help alleviate her campaign debt, which is believed to be around $30 million.
A number of you will argue that Hillary doesn't have any leverage, but that is, in a way, beside the point: The Obama campaign is well aware that the McCain campaign is already making an aggressive pitch for Hillary's supporters, and will be hoping to use her strategically to parry those efforts.
With regard to any role she may play at the convention, some pundits have speculated that Hillary may be granted a kind of Hillary Day during the convention, just as we had a kind of Bill Clinton Day during the 2004 festivities. No word on whether Bill will also ask for his own day in Denver...
Obama-Clinton, 2008.
June 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
No.
June 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hell. No.
There are a TON of reasons why Hillary CANNOT be Obama's running mate, there are plenty of common sense, painfully obvious reasons, here are the most important ones:
No Nightmare Ticket
June 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that it should be Obama-Hillary, just as soon as Bill discloses his business dealings over the last 7 years and the donor list to his library. That shouldn't be a big snag in the process, should it? After all, the Clintons have already been "fully vetted," right?
June 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only a divorce would get her on the ticket at this point. The Clinton era is over. Best not to dwell on it further.
June 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
AMEN!!! Loved reading that Bill would never pass the vetting process - DUH!!!
Now, I can swallow a Hillary Day at the convention. But a Bill Clinton Day? Are you f***ing kidding me??? If she's cooked and done, he's not-so-tasty leftovers.
June 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
And why the hell should Obama help pay off Hillary's "campaign debt" -- a debt she wouldn't have run up to that $30 million if she'd had the common sense to end it when it was obvious she couldn't win. She just spent that money to increase her "leverage."
Asking Obama -- or the national Dems -- to pay it is just blackmail.
Especially galling coming from a couple that made $109 million just last year!
June 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is great news !
June 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
For Hillary!
June 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank god. I was beginning to worry. It had been several threads since we'd had some more big news of Hillary.
June 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't let the Convention be about her, the last 16 years have been all about the Clintons, I'm tired of it. Why celebrate the past and the status quo? The Convention should be about embracing change and moving forward, not looking back.
June 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know... I think if it makes them happy, provides an incentive for strong support throughout the campaign, and eases any hard feelings over her not being chosen VP, what the hell -- give her (or both of them) a day at the Convention. Small price to pay IMHO.
Certainly, better a day at the Convention than four months as running mate and eight years as VP.
June 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen! Hillary managed to hijack what should have been Obama's "moment" after securing the nomination. Enough about the f***ing Clintons!!
June 9, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
My "amen" was to LuxVeritas, not the post right above me.
June 9, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good. Hopefully the Clintons will be out on the campaign trail for Obama helping to pull the party together.
June 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary who?
June 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alright, sounds like Clinton will not be VP to me.
Discussing her role for the campaign, the convention? She's out. They're brokering something since she will not be chosen.
Or at least that's my take.
June 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Why would there be any negotiation if her name was seriously on the short list for Veep?
June 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
go get a flea dip!
June 9, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop tainting my thread, troll! Be gone!!!
June 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
YOUR thread???
June 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
DON'T BE BAMBOOZLED !
TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS:
DON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!!
VOTE FOR McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
And get a free coat hanger with your vote!
June 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you give less than a shit about any of the things Hillary Clinton claims to be a fighter for, up to and including making sure Roe v. Wade is not overturned. For you it is nothing but a vitriolic cult-of-personality fanboy/girl thing and not about positions, principles, policy, or governance.
Any Clinton supporter who claims that they are either sitting it out or voting McCain, who is the polar-opposite of what Clinton says she stands and fights for, is an utter fraud.
So why do you support Clinton yet hate everything Clinton says she is fighting for so much?
How can you really care about what she says she cares about if you are so willing to knowingly work against what Clinton says she is fighting for by either sitting it out or voting McCain?
Either you are a Rush Limbaugh troll, or an intellectually fraud (not that those are mutually exclusive). In either case, you are simply full of shit.
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
clinton is clearly shifting her strategy. now that the presidency is off the menu, she wants to be some sort of eminence grise for the democratic party, and she's trying to use the convention to kick off her new image.
June 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
or write in Hillary's name...
Or vote ANYBODY BUT obama!!!!!!!
He screwed us!
June 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
How?
June 9, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you give less than a shit about any of the things Hillary Clinton claims to be a fighter for, up to and including making sure Roe v. Wade is not overturned. For you it is nothing but a vitriolic cult-of-personality fanboy/girl thing and not about positions, principles, policy, or governance.
Any Clinton supporter who claims that they are either sitting it out or voting McCain, who is the polar-opposite of what Clinton says she stands and fights for, is an utter fraud.
So why do you support Clinton yet hate everything Clinton says she is fighting for so much?
How can you really care about what she says she cares about if you are so willing to knowingly work against what Clinton says she is fighting for by either sitting it out or voting McCain?
Either you are a Rush Limbaugh troll, or an intellectually fraud (not that those are mutually exclusive). In either case, you are simply full of shit.
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This type of stuff has to happen in one form or another, better now and later. HRC deserves kudos but not the center stage or the VP. Other than these elements good bye HRC!
June 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
And remember everyone? Don't feed the trolls. Scroll past the trolls.
June 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get a flea dip!
June 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
To All TRUE Hillary supporters:
Do NOT vote for Obama!!
If it were NOT for him and his lefty air head kids and 90% blacks, HILLARY would now be the nominee!
Do NOT forget!
Do NOT forgive!
Do NOT vote for that racist Radical !!
June 9, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
As far as Repug trolls go, you really are not as good as fogu2.
June 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
No arguments, just spew. No debate, just pedantic blather. What RaeK does not understand is that her very BREED has been marginalized before her own eyes. The chicken, now headless, runs amok, leaving a dreadful mess.
A pitiful existence, to be sure. It will be over soon enough.
June 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I supported Hillary Clinton in this campaign--probably at least as much as you did--and I would still have you banned if I were TPM managment. I would have you banned as quickly as I would have some of your detractors banned, but that's just me.
In any event, just so you know, your antics are annoying but you do nothing to change hearts and minds. You are simply a pest. And to make myself perfectly clear, this Hillary Clinton supporter now supports and will proudly vote for Senator Obama, and I don't know a single Hillary Clinton supporter in real life who will not be doing what I am doing in November.
June 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great news. I think you'll be glad you did! Glad to hear from you!
June 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for saying that.
June 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you give less than a shit about any of the things Hillary Clinton claims to be a fighter for, up to and including making sure Roe v. Wade is not overturned. For you it is nothing but a vitriolic cult-of-personality fanboy/girl thing and not about positions, principles, policy, or governance.
Any Clinton supporter who claims that they are either sitting it out or voting McCain, who is the polar-opposite of what Clinton says she stands and fights for, is an utter fraud.
So why do you support Clinton yet hate everything Clinton says she is fighting for so much?
How can you really care about what she says she cares about if you are so willing to knowingly work against what Clinton says she is fighting for by either sitting it out or voting McCain?
Either you are a Rush Limbaugh troll, or an intellectually fraud (not that those are mutually exclusive). In either case, you are simply full of shit.
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually this is good news for the fact...campaigns merge and work out deals, etc. this clears the way for the news to be about Obama vs McBushie...Hillary makes the news only then by campaigning and turning her efforts on McFakeish!
June 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
IF Obama does not pick Clinton as his VP, I hope he picks Bill Richardson:)....if Clinton or Richardson can't be the VP.... I hope he gives them a imporant role within his admination.
June 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry RaeKa but i will not be voting for John McCain... I don't like Obama or McCain, but i don't want 4 more years of what we have right know...... therefore, i will be voting for Obama even though i don't like him.
If you asked me this a few weeks ago, i would have said yes i am voting for John McCain..... but i have had time to think things over and i can say NO WAY.....
June 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Just wow.
June 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome! You've been a loyal, enthusiastic and positive supporter of Senator Clinton through the entire nominating process and I for one appreciate that. If you could bring 1/10th of that enthusiasm for Senator Obama it would be a great day for dems.
June 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so glad. I think you will also be very glad when you see the kind of presidency he will have. Good for you!!
June 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for your willingness to engage in the debate.
June 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome aboard! :)
June 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're the best answer in the house for RaeK junk. You get my applause.
BTW..It would've been my answer if Hillary won the nomination. Can't afford four more years of a Repug...NO WAY!!!!
Heal the wound, or atleast vote for some who can stop the bleeding.
RaeKK: An adult factoid, you living in applalachia pay 10-15% of your monthly income on gas right now and will pay 20-25% by the end of the year. Thought, will give you a lesson a lot more relavent.
June 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash79 (that young fool) wrote:
If Obama gets in, instead of paying 15% of my capital gains to Uncle Sam, I'll be paying almost HALF of that gain!
and as for GAS!!
You gotta be kidding me?! Obama is the guy who argued against temporary relief for gas prices and the windfall profit tax on oil companies...
He's in the big oil companies pocket already...
just like the DRUG COMPANIES!!!!!!
SOURCE OF MOST OF HIS BIG MONEY? - THE DRUG COMPANIES AND HIS ATTORNEY DRUG COMPANY LOBBYING PACS.
step the fuck off with that crap with me! Peddle it somewhere else you mindless sheep! Take another swig of your mountain koolaid - special malt liquor brand....
June 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
atleast you're not writing racist garbage- good start.
You callin me fool ain't sound like a hurt. Yep talk issues, teach this young fool the issues, better than racist rants.
June 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
He/she will get racist soon enough. At least we have the town fool to keep us amused until he/she gets bored.
June 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
atleast you're not writing racist garbage- good start.
You callin me fool ain't sound like a hurt. Yep talk issues, teach this young fool the issues, better than racist rants.
June 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're the best answer in the house for RaeK junk. You get my applause.
BTW..It would've been my answer if Hillary won the nomination. Can't afford four more years of a Repug...NO WAY!!!!
Heal the wound, or atleast vote for some who can stop the bleeding.
RaeKK: An adult factoid, you living in applalachia pay 10-15% of your monthly income on gas right now and will pay 20-25% by the end of the year. Thought, will give you a lesson a lot more relavent.
June 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love your avatar. And I wish every person, on both sides, were as positive as you are.
June 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was supposed to be to HC '08
June 9, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it seems as if every day is Hillary Day here at TPM-EC!
Remind me again: When exactly did she wrap up the Dem nomination?!?
June 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems to me that we're only encouraging Greg by commenting on Clinton threads. If we confined our posts to Obama/McCain/non-Hillary threads (both of them), perhaps there would be a paradigm shift towards reality.
Just a thought....
June 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean you're not grateful to have the latest price that Hillary's trading at still on the page?
June 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOP Official: If We Only Lose Eight Senate Seats, We Win
By Eric Kleefeld - June 9, 2008, 2:12PM
In a further sign that Republican hopes are fading badly, the head of the Senate GOP's campaign committee has set a new goal for the party this Fall: Not to lose too many Senate seats.
NRSC chair John Ensign
In other words: Mr.Ensign declares that the Republican Domestic Surge is Working!
June 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The Democratic insurgency is in its last throes."
June 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Whitey is trying to put obama in the whitey house...
Wonder if Michelle will try to paint it BLACK??
She hates everything white....
June 9, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even Cool-Whip?
June 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
She hates wedding cakes and birthday cakes and tapioca pudding and blanc manges (o definitely blanc manges) and mashed potatoes and vanilla ice cream and horseradish and...
June 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg? Eric? Seriously. This poster called an African-American poster here "boy." What exactly does it take to ban someone? What are the standards?
June 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did not . Don't LIE anneeliz ! But then you probably weren't lying were you? It's very typical of obamamite people. Every bloody thing under the sun is racist! My avatar has been repeatedly called racist!
Yeah, there was a photo of a young boy. I asked WHO the boy was supposed to be. He was obviously too young to be a voter!
As usual, you can't use any term or words without it being construed as racist! This is a new level of ridiculousness!
June 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
She hates the Beatles' "White Album"!
She hates the drink of the Appalachias, white lightnin'!
She hates Miracle Whip!
She hates the rancid milk suckled from the teats of Rush Limbaugh!
June 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Raeka... you need to leave this site... we do not need someone like you talking that way....
You are hateful..... GO AWAY!!!!
June 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seconded.
June 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's right. Barack and Michelle will be Mr. And Mrs. President of the United States Of America! This is Great news!
June 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are a gorgeous pair...and their children...when was the last time Urchins roamed the White House I'd like to know? The fist-bump summed it all up, a moment of Truth, of strength, and a testament to the power of the People.
June 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really did love the little fist-bump. It was very cute. It's also hilarious how flummoxed some people in the media were over it..."it appears they're striking their closed fists together in some sort of tribal gesture!"
June 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fox Airhead Editor In Chief E.D. Hill wondered aloud if it was a "terrorist fist jab."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/09/fox-anchor-calls-obama-fi_n_106027.html
June 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's so true - America is going to fall in love with this family, if it isn't already in love with them.
How can you not? Every time I see Barack smile, I think - look at that face - how can this face not be president?
But I'm kinda wack that way.
Hi everyone. I'm in beautiful Taos where it is about 72 degrees, perfectly sunny, the fountain is singing and over on Peacock Lane, the peacock is screaming. LOL!
June 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rub it in, why don't you? : )
(The Taos and it's 72 degrees thing....It's 94 and HUMID here).
June 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Umm, sorry - I know there's a terrible heat wave up and down the east coast.
If I was in Dallas, it would be unbearable. So I'm enjoying the fact I'm not. LOL!
It is perfect here today, I have to say it.
June 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hot desert sun, cool sea breeze in LA where it's 78 and paradise!
June 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, both of you rub it in!
It's humid, hot, the air quality sucks, the air conditioning on my car just went out, and I don't have air conditioning at home.
Why do I live in steamy connecticut?
June 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do decleah, CT is the New Old Sooth as climate change proceeds apace...
June 9, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes, it sure feels that way.
I was stunned to discover, upon moving here, that it's actually more humid than it is in Mississippi.
I guess MS is going to start seeming equatorial, with climate change.
June 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain "making an aggressive pitch to Hillary supporters" makes me laugh
June 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If each of Hillary's 18 million supporters contributed $1.67, then she could retire that debt. That's not too much to ask of them after she has worked herself to the bone on the campaign trail for as long as she did.
June 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's true, Outhouse....
Problem is: There are a number of "bitter" Hillary supporters out there who just don't do math....
June 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly! Remember his joke about Chelsea when she was about 13? And his snicker response to the "How do we beat the bitch" question? And the revelations from his ex-wife today? McCain is no poster boy for feminism...
June 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was to PenninsulaMatt above
June 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
O hardly, given his known attraction to underage blondes.
He and Cindy are not really a "family" the way the Obamas are.
June 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once America gets a whiff of the McMarriages, it's going to look just awful to thh very base he has to have to win.
It must McSuck to be him.
June 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly I think they are the creepiest couple evah.
Seriously - the thought of them in the White House is kind of unbearable.
June 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word. They are totally ghoulish. Her? Him? Aahh!
June 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
As an Obama supporter I can say this is not about Obama for me, or about Clinton. Yes, I like the intellect I see in Obama, it's a nice change from Bush and I don't want another intellectually-challenged Republican in the White House. (Seriously, do they not have any Republicans who graduated with above average grades at college?) I have placed my hope in Obama, but I'm not obsessed with him. For me, this is about my kids. I want to pass on a government that I recognize to my children. So just wondering if we could cut out the Clinton remarks. Besides the fact that it's become a bore, it sometimes seems like we are set up for negativity. Note: "A number of you will argue that Hillary doesn't have any leverage." I know it's hard, but could you resist the urge to comply?
"Yes we can!"
June 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
My vote against obama:
part revulsion for obama and his racist bitch wife, Michelle;
part revulsion for Keith Olbermann;
part revulsion for Eugene Robinson;
part revulsion for Chris Mathews' mysogeny;
Part revulsion for the hate-filled posts of obamamites we had to endure...
...one of which actually posted that she was praying and wishing hillary's plain would crash...
June 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
But mostly its the fact that you're a Republican.
June 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
As well as a raving lunatic...
June 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
TROLL FUND FOR OBAMA!!
Here's how it works:
For every post on this forum from RaeK, Matthew Weaver, fogu2, et al, I am going to contribute $10 to Obama. Who's with me?
And, Rae, lest you and your ilk try to post your way towards my insolvency, rest assured.... I'm more than good for it!
With your inaugural post we have:
TROLL FUND FOR OBAMA - $10 (and counting)
June 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are clearly a genius. May I suggest a blog post? It will get more attention.
June 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The irony of calling someone a bitch and then raving about misogyny is pretty delightful. Thank you!
June 9, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
No kidding. I also dig how this troll won't vote for someone because of some television personality hairdo pissed them off. That is like saying I won't vote for Obama because David Hasselhoff said something mean about Hillary.
June 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOPs standard game plan--attack the candidate's wife. They've been doing it for 20 years. Wonder if this macho-men sexism will work in 2008? I think not.
June 9, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wish I could, but that's out of my league money-wise. I did just contribute $25 though.
That's a lot of revulsion, Rae, but I guess that explains why you're so revolting. Somehow you've gained access to the eternally bubbling Bog of Revoltingness. You can come out into the light and fresh air whenever you want to.
June 9, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, lot of you obama trolls want me to leave this website!
Okay, let's have a vote for who wants me to leave? Maybe I will.....
June 9, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
DO NOT FEED.
June 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Liar. If you left you wouldn't be able to get all those precious McCain points.
June 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
What??
You mean I can get points for posting?? What can I do with those points pray tell!
June 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Turn them in for Ben-Gay of course.
June 9, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad to see the references to Chelsea. Just think, it won't be long, until she runs for president. And she'll win, too, after all the Black Power handshakes, et. al., get really old.
June 9, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The Obama campaign is well aware that the McCain campaign is already making an aggressive pitch for Hillary's supporters, and will be hoping to use her strategically to parry those efforts."
Just what I have said all along. There is not a lot of difference between McCain's positions and Clinton's. Clinton supported the war and has not been convincing about ending it. She couldn't accomplish any kind of comprehensive health care reform as first lady and isn't showing support for anything but minor variation to the status quo medical system we have today. She clearly believed she was entitled to the presidential nomination and the attitude of entitlement indicates to me that she would love the newly expanded executive privileges brought to the white house by Bush. Only issues will capture those votes, not Senator Clinton's name on the ticket.
June 10, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink