Yet another thing to be healed this summer.

well...like DUUH

Hillary and Bill EARNED this rating and I would not be surprise to see it drop more.

Kendrick Meeks, StephanieTubbJones and SheilaJacksonLee are in BIG trouble whenEVER they come up for re-election...and rightfully so.

Oh.

What a surprise.

not.

Well, as was pointed out in the other thread yesterday, supporting a Democratic ticket with her on it and Obama in the top spot is one thing. WANTING her to be on the ticket is a totally different thing altogether.

I think the reason they want her on the ticket is that they think she helps with white voters. They do not understand that they are not alone in their low opinion of her.

She'll win it back.

Barring any weirdness over the weekend, the primary is beginning to be framed in the rearview mirror. Maybe it's my local scene (Austin, Tx), but I'm surprised at how quickly attitudes are healing in real life, as opposed to on blogs.

It's like people are waking from the haze of the primary to find that they are indeed democrats.

But then, living in Austin, the only blue county in a state of red, we are used to counting on one another. Not to mention, neither Barak or Hillary are progressive enough for many of us.

these are not new numbers or a surprising conclusion. Al Giordano did a rundown of this exact phenomenon (Hillary's precipitous drop in popularity among black voters) weeks ago. glad to see that TPM keeps up and current.

Who cares?

The two polls are not necessarily in conflict. The 45% who would support Hillary on the ticket would presumably be in the 58% of African-Americans who still have a favorable view of Senator Clinton.

And if you're afraid that a rift in the party might hand the general election to McCain, you might think a unity ticket would be the best response. I think there are other tactical reasons why Clinton would make a poor VP choice for Obama, but I can understand how she might appeal to many in that role.

Surely the Obama campaign is not as clueless as his supporters at TPM. Could you possibly be more graceless in victory?

I saw that poll as pretty positive. Hillary still has over 50% approval even after she was derided and pilloried in the media and by Obama supporters.

My guess is that Hillary has greater esteem among African-Americans than she does among affluent white liberals. They always did hate the Clintons, for some reason.

Today:

Hillary is just one US Senator among a hundred.

Today Senator Obama is our candidate.

Will someone clue in TPM to that fact.

We do not need to continue to treat Hillary like she is still in contention. She lost. Get over it Sargent. Cover our candidate, and stop force feeding us a lot of worthless trivia about The person who is not the nominee.

Oh, has the vote been taken? Is the convention over?

The decision has been made. If you do not like it, then go talk to all those Clinton Superdelegates who have now switched to Obama.

I've pesonally stopped trying to reason with Hillary supporters. They will do her legacy and influence,in the party, more harm by voting for Mccain.

If Obama Loses in NOV because of the "uneducated white women vote,"they will put a nail in her political coffin.Hillary has to work hard for Obama,or forever be known as dividing the party.

I don't buy her 2012 bid,who here will ever give her that vote,if Obama loses?

She loves power and is toast,in the party, if she has cost him the election.

So when you hear one of these emotional,irrational ranter,supporters,speak about voting for Mccain,SMILE INSIDE,because they will kill her politically . She soesn't want to be remembered for dividing the party.

I know this was a little off thread, but if I hear one more emotional sore loser,threaten to vote Mccain, aganist their own intrest,as if that proves anything,I choke.

let's cut through the b.s. hillary is an incredibly negative person. she refused to take high minded risks but seemed to relish the low road even while doing ever more grievous injury to her reputation. go figure! good riddance!

Racism is on the increase because of how Obama's people promoted it in this election in order to beat Hillary, when in fact the Clintons had done more FOR the black people than any other politician.

Black should be ASHAMED of themselves for that.

While on you tube search the following

the clinton chronicles 1-11,the mena connection,hillary's baggage,and hillary the movie 1-9

In hillary the movie #4
this site, cover the suit she and Bill are facing after the Nov election www.paulvclinton.com

She should never be near Obama,EVER politically!!!

I see Black people got that message,too.

The clinton's are for AA, until we're losing aganist one,then we use the" old faithful" race baiting cards,to pull out the "uneducated middle class white voters."

They like many politicians, pandered to that group of people, ONLY, for their vote,when they lost the vote,their true colors came to the fore!

Liam

Remember don't engage these "People Worshippers."They vote on whim, anger,emotion,the issues aren't important to them.You'll waste your time trying to reason with 1irrational~ thought processes.

I hear you brother,the repugnicans are stoking the division divide.

Did you hear that the hillary is 44 website blogmaster, is a republican.These non thinking emotional dems are being led down the pike.HIS IDENTITY WAS OUTED ON BEN SMITH,AT POLITICO.COM

Are you aware of www.paulvclinton.com? This Hillary is one amoral person.

Oh, you must think that politics starts and stops with who wins the nomination or which party wins the election. I tend to think that these issues matter with and without election cycles and delegate math.