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Poll: Al Franken Way Behind In Minnesota Senate Race

A new SurveyUSA poll in Minnesota has some bad news for Al Franken -- and for Senate Democrats, who are hoping to pick up a Senate seat in this blue state.

The numbers: Coleman 52%, Franken 40%, well outside of the ±4% margin of error. If former Gov. Jesse Ventura were to enter the race as an independent, the numbers would be Coleman 41%, Franken 31%, and Ventura 23%. The two-way matchup is not significantly changed from their last poll from a month and a half ago, which had it at Coleman 52%, Franken 42%.

Other recent polls have shown the race to be closer than this, but they too give Coleman the lead. It looks like Coleman is definitely ahead -- with Franken having been hurt by controversies surrounding his finances and his sexually-explicit humor -- with the question being just how big Coleman's margin currently is.


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why is franken our nominee?? could the dems really not find anyone else?

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The alternatives were worse. Believe me.

Having said that, no one has made much hay yet over Coleman's deplorable performance as chair of the Senate "Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations" (under the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee). His most shining public moment on that subcommittee was when British MP George Galloway ripped him a new one (video here) a bit over three years ago.

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I really find that hard to believe. Franken was the best dem to run for the senate seat? Come on, there had to be a better nominee. I wish the minnesota dems put forth a better candidate. This seat is an easy win and I don't think that Franken can pull it off.

Well... believe it.

that should be 31% for Franken w/ Ventura

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Yeah, it's over. I mean, it is June after all. I remember all those polls in June of 2006 with Allen beating Webb by 9, 2004 when Kerry was ahead of Bush by 6, and on and on and on.

Lighten up.

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I told them again and again at MyDD and Kos but the idiots refused to listen. Franken has had next to nothing to do with the state for years, he has a very nasal voice, and he's not particularly funny (at least not from anything of his on SNL I've seen). It is far too easy to portray him as a carpet-bagging outsider opportunist.

The irony is, so is Coleman....
Unfortunately, MN traded their best candidate for statewide office to the Mets.

Hey, I thought this was the Al Franken decade. Oh wait, that was the 1980's.

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Why is this a big deal?

Al Franken will be the US Senator. It's only friggin June and the incumbent US Senator can only muster 52% in a head to head with a comedian? I'd say the one who needs to be worrying is Norm Coleman folks. And if you think perhaps Franken oughta be running a better campaign I suggest you send him some money so he can do just that.

Franken has balls enough to run for US Senate and a sense of humor. What more could anyone ask? I say everyone needs to quit kvetching about Al and get behind him with a contribution so we can sell Norm a permanent ticket to the sidelines.

Go Al!

My politically disinterested Republican mother is planning on voting for Obama but is dead set against Franken.

As much as Webb, Kaine, Warner might help Obama in VA, Franken is going to need some serious traditional top-down coattail help.

So, why does your granny not like Franken? What;s Franken's problem? Jesus, Norm Coleman is a moron (of course, this is the state that elected Ventura governor). Al is smart and funny, but his charisma is nonexistent. He needs to get creative about this campaign.

Al Franken is suffering from the same thing as Obama, intra party combat for the nomination. Now that he has the nomination, he should start rising in the polls. At the end of the day, Franken is a very strong Democrat and will be a force for good in Minnessota and the country. Besides, with Pawlenty refusing to fix bridges and Norn being the buffoon that he is, who really wants to vote repug anyway?

Oh, I almost forgot, when Obama helps him campaign, those numbers will improve greatly.

Franken was horrendously unimpressive in an NPR interview last week, and MNPundit is right about his horrible nasally voice. Basically, he had nothing to say. He wanted to be a Democratic senator for Minnesotans and that was it, no proposals, issues, rhetoric, or anything, at least in that interview.

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...and MNPundit is right about his horrible nasally voice.

LOL - well obviously MNPundit has never stepped foot out of the twin cities and actually listened to Minnesotans speak. And the further out from the cities you get, the more nasal the voice.

Franken's speaking voice isn't the issue here, but rather it's getting out the message of how he would be making things better for Minnesotans. I've seen Franken talk in public at the MN State Fair (which is a big deal here) and he really is able to connect with Minnesotans. His biggest issue now would be getting his message out to the voters and reminding them of what an absolute Bush lap-dog Coleman has been.

I don't get it, Minnesota is the BLUEST state, the only state (with DC) that voted against Reagan his second time around. That seat used to be held by a real progressive, how can these idiots have a Republican in there? I don't give a shit about dirty jokes or a tax mistake, doesn't these people care at ALL about policy?? How can they be fine with a progressive and fine with a Republican?? It is weird as hell, it doesn't make sense. The piece of shit Republican is only there because the progressive died...it is time to take this back.

I'm not worried, Franken will pull this out, and the Obama boost will help him. The Dems just need to invest in this race, and start tearing Coleman down.

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Minnesota used to be the BLUEST of the Blue states. Over the course of the last 12 years we've been trending much more purple than in the past -- although I believe that MN will be firmly Blue this election cycle.

The state reminds me a lot of California. If you look at the voting patterns you'll see where the more dense, urban areas are a fairly solid blue, but then as you start going outward towards the suburbs and rural areas it gets increasingly red.

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That pattern holds in nearly every part of the country, not just California.

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I have lived in Minnesota, and I see Franken as a fundamentally weak candidate, whose only strengths are that he is less unappealing than Mike Ciresi and less geeky than Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer. Coleman is a slick bastard, and Minnesota has been susceptible to that in the past (cf Rudy Boschwitz, who annihilated Joan Growe for his re-election in 1984 even as Mondale was beating Reagan in the state). Besides, Franken so far has not shown he has anything to say. He is DLC milquetoast and that's all. Ventura had far more substantive things to say on policy back in 1998 than Franken seems to now -- it was clean up government, return the surplus, get the kids educated, get commuters moving again.

The Democrats in Minnesota are finally building a good bench again in the legislature, but this will be hopefully the last election in which the DFL reaps the consequences of their lost decade of the 1990s in which Wellstone was their only bright spot.

I live in Minnesota and I couldn't agree with you more. We had another candidate, that unfortunately decided not to run. Peter Agre, NObel Prize Winner, top-noch scientist and scientific administrator, true Minnesotan. It would have been great for a voice of science in the Senate. It did not happen.

I moved to Minnesota 26 years ago and have found the Minnesota character to be endlessly fascinating in a clinical way.

There is an expression we use/cringe at here: "Minnesota Nice", every bit as smug as it sounds, yet accurate. Your true Minnesotan hates confrontation and expressing an opinion of any sort. We're the home of passive/aggressive. Al Franken is entirely too abrasive and snotty to go over here - we much prefer slick and vapid, like Norm Coleman.

Truth be told, Al Franken is too much the New York Jew for Minnestoan sensibilities, which is ironic because he was born and raised here, whereas Norm Coleman really IS a New York Jew. But as the consummate opportunist he is, he's assimilated the Minnesota bland camoflage and it's served him well.

I dont know about that... Wellstone was pretty confrontational and could be contraversial, and we voted him in twice (and almost a third)

Yes that's true. Hopefully the Wellstone Precedent will apply. Wellstone however didn't leave a trail of SNL appearances, Playboy articles and books of in-your-face left-wing invective.

At least I know he isn't a 'wide stance'repug or a party boy.

And I am pretty sure that his dad wasn't getting a bj in the bar parking lot.

I don't think Franken's going to make it, unless O can carry him

I really don't get how Minnesota voters prefer Norm Coleman over Al Franken. Obviously they never listened to his radio show or read his books or they would understand serious he is about the things that matter to us as a country. He understands Social Security and during the time that Bush administration was trying to dismantle it he spoke eloquently about why it is important for our citizens. He also had many discussions about how to address the projected shortages. (For those that listened, it was the donut hole idea.) He has also been to Iraq repeatedly to entertain our troops, starting long before he considered running for office. He also didn't exploit those trips for publicity. I don't care how you describe "Minnesotans" or what they "prefer"---if that state reelects the snake oil salesman Norm Coleman instead of Al Franken who would follow in Paul Wellstone's tradition then they deserve the lemon they have bought. I don't understand how people can look at the smears the right/the corporate media is throwing at Franken and think that THOSE things define what he stands for and who he is. That kind of mindset is what brought us here, right now in America to this brink of destruction of our great country. Minnesota readers, wake up. Al Franken understands health care, education, the economy, social security, national security, the wars we are in, Minnesota values and needs of his home state. Norm Coleman? Well, he has started voting against Bush now that he is running for reelection instead of the 98% with Bush for most of his time in office. Even if you don't like Al Franken he has the D after his name and that is the only way we are going to start cleaning up the mess we are in.

"I don't care how you describe "Minnesotans" or what they "prefer"---if that state reelects the snake oil salesman Norm Coleman instead of Al Franken who would follow in Paul Wellstone's tradition then they deserve the lemon they have bought. I don't understand how people can look at the smears the right/the corporate media is throwing at Franken and think that THOSE things define what he stands for and who he is."

Hey, don't shoot the messenger - I agree with you, will vote for Franken and will deplore Coleman's re-election along with everybody else.

The fact remains that the gamut of "pornography" accusations that Franken had to run to be endorsed by the state DFL convention started with our top Democrats. Top of the ticket Dem US Senator Amy Klobuchar herself led the charge for Franken to explain and apologize for an article he wrote for Playboy 8 years ago.

And the Repubs haven't started in on him yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see him winning against empty suit (the phrase was made for him) Coleman.

How in the world could anyone with a brain go for Coleman over Franken? Why would people reward any republican, especially a cheap opportunist like Coleman who sucked up to the republicans when it was popular to be a republican, and now looks like he is trying to nuance all of his positions to fit in with the mood of the country now? I agree with "mikestand." I wouldn't give a republican anything but a one way ticket out of D.C. They are corrupt to the core, and until we find out how the Justice Department has been corrupted, and we find out other things that Coleman and his pals have rubber stamped, we need every Democratic vote in congress that we can get!

Screw the polls, this one is clearly the outlier. Most have Franken within the margin of error and were taken after the Comedygate nonsense as well.

Also, it's June.

I just gave Al some money today, $25 bucks from me. I just convinced my boyfriend to do the same...

Won't you too?

https://secure.alfranken.com/page/contribute

As someone who lives in Minnesota, I see some, well, not that I would want to be un-Minnesotan and express an opinion, misconceptions.

Beating Coleman was never an easy proposition. He standings in the polls and approval ratings have consistently been around 50%, which is the danger point for incumbents and means he's vulnerable. However, "vulnerable" is not the same as "weak". There's a chance to beat him, but a bit less than even, hardly a done deal, regardless of who the DFL chose.

Coleman is a good politician. I've been seeing him since he ran for mayor, and he is an effective campaigner. I'm convinced Wellstone would have won, but Coleman made it a close run thing, and this year will be close too no matter how weak the GOP is nationally or even in the state. Franken is right to call Coleman a windsock, but he's a smart windsock. His voting record that tracks with Bush's approval might not be admirable, but his moderation comes at the right time. So far, he and the state GOP have been effective at making the election about Franken rather than about the incumbent. They haven't made a single policy statement yet, and have gotten away with it so far.

Wellstone was way behind the incumbent he challenged too, and at a bigger financial disadvantage, and running in a safe year for incumbents (he was the only senate challenger to win in 1990). He was running his second campaign, but he hadn't made an impressive showing that first time. None of this means Franken wins, just that it's grossly premature to call the election over already.

As a grassroots DFLer, I'm aware that Coleman caught a break as Franken faced a tough endorsement fight (don't be fooled by the first ballot win and the acclimation: many of those voters were close to switching, and his opponent was a class act who moved for acclimation of Franken). Now that Franken has moved from wooing delegates to the general election, anything could change.

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There may have been something wrong with the poll. The SUSA presidnetial poll, presumably taken at the same time shows Obama barely ahead of McCain in Minnesota less than week after aother poll had him ahead by double-digits.

Al's an idiot! Face it!! Norm looks like a GIANT compared to this lame brain!

Reading some of these posts is mind boggling.....reminds me of the race that Smith is running in Oregon, where he puts up ads insinuating that Obama supports him, to the point that Obama had to put out the statement that he doesn't; that he is supporting the Democrat, LOL!!!! Too funny. Smith, like Coleman, has decided that since it is election time they will distance themselves from Bush, EVEN THOUGH they had voted WITH Bush for the entire first 7 years of his Presidency! If Minnesotans buy into this, they are not as bright as Franken says they are.

I can tell you Oregon isn't buying Smiths B.S......though he may still win. What is it with people who will vote for a man who supports Presidential Kingship??? And just how will those same folks feel when Obama has all the powers that Bush GAVE HIMSELF? I'll be willing to bet that Republicans will "all the sudden" come to their senses about this.......LMAO!

BTW, how many of you realize that is was COLEMANS responsibility to have Presidential oversight which NEVER took place and is the cause of this Presidency-run-amok??? No hearings, or if there were a few it was a joke, Republicans bashing Democrats instead of asking questions on topic....look it up folks, it's all on c-span.

Those of you who claim Franken "has nothing of substance to say" obviously don't listen to what he does say. He is exceptionally smart and informed, and IF you bother to listen without a prior agenda, you'd know that.

Coleman is a joke. He has backed every law Bush has broken; he supports the illegal spying Bush did (Bush's own asst AG has said so, no debate), never once utilizing his real authority to hold oversight hearings, but you go ahead and vote for him over Franken because Franken told jokes for a living.......you DESERVE what you get.......it's rather sad that so many Minnesotan(s), though, who DO have enough sense to oust Coleman may have to suffer for the ignorance of people who had EIGHT LONG YEARS of misery to show them that Coleman is pathetic.

Ed Schultz, where are you??????

Franken SHOULD beat Coleman. This is a Democratic year to say the least. But I think Al is going to have a real hard time. I've never been comfortable with him as a candidate. This is his first run for elected office, and honestly, I don't think his heart in it. Al is seen as a carpetbagger (ironic, since Coleman is one too), despite being born in Minnesota (even though Al hasn't lived there for years). Al has a tendency to be smug and a little full of himself, and he doesn't disguise it well. I hope he does win, but don't be surprised if Al moves back to NYC soon.

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