Hey, its the "Chicago Way" - as Sean Connery so succinctly put it in "The Untouchables". Bring a gun to a knife fight indeed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=7g0RLyxP13o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Z4dxjRv4g

Check this out.

Seems to me the jury is still out on whether or not Obama will effectively respond to the Republican slime. He sure didn't punch back with Hillary and he has done little in the face of the opening doses of slime the past two weeks.

I hope he means it because that is the key for Democrats winning the White House: Americans do not respect wimps! When they come at him, Obama has to stand up and break out a case of whoop ass on those assholes. That will seal the deal if Obama actually does it. My fingers are crossed.

Humanity_Critic just beat me to it--soon as I read the post I knew exactly where it was from--great movie--still enjoy watching it on cable--that McCain bunch needs to watch more movies AND bravo for Obama. This is the way I used to run campaigns when I did them (though none any where near this level but the principle is the same).

Finally - some bite.

Chicago politics is exactly what we need right now to cleanse our public offices of the Bush administration - and everyone who benefited under it.

McCain's smarmy rhetoric is nothing like he was in 2000 when I voted for him against Bush.

He lost every bit of my respect after he put his arms (and policy positions) around G.W.Bush.

Any man that can tolerate Bush's company after the disgusting smears against his family is a coward - regardless of wartime service.

Pretty interesting that McCain's family smear mentioned something to the effect of an illegitimate black child - and Michele Obama was called a 'baby mama' on a national cable news ticker.

Strange how similar themes repeat themselves in political campaigns. I think these are the 'old politics' everyone is tired of.

Telling people to shove it up their ass when they present themselves like one never gets old.

I honestly believe that one of the major reasons that Democrats have done so poorly in the presidential elections of the past 30 years (Clinton years excepted) is that they have all too willing to apologize and back down when the Rethugs bring the slime. People may not like Rove/Atwater smear tactics, but they will watch nonetheless to see how the victim responds when attacked. And they will make some fundamental, if unconscious, judgments about them based on their response. So, it's about god-damned time that we had a guy in our corner who didn't take it lying down, didn't turn the other cheek, but rather brought the pain to the perpetrator. Hallelujah. It feels good, doesn't it?

Race-baiting and white guilt may have worked in the Dem primaries. Republicans don't fall for that shit. I hope the New Democrats have something else up their sleeves.

Should they respond to the nut case Larry Sinclair? The guy fails a lie detector test and still makes speeches and smears. Stomp him.

This is pretty lame, but I guess this is all the Republicans have. Obama uses a common analogy about fighting fire with fire, and they call it fearmongering and act like he threatened to shoot McCain, the idiots took it literally.

Yet, oddly enough, we weren't supposed to take "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" literally...

A black man(future prez?) making gun references while black youths all across the nation are dying because of guns is TASTELESS.

Black, white and brown youths all across the nation are dying because of guns, so don't racialize the issue.
The United States is a society with deep figurative and literal attachment to the gun. Obama's alleged reference - if true - was likely meant to inject some "pop" into the political dialogue, some welcome evidence that the "new" Democrats aren't going to take shit from the bullshitters on the right wing.
While the reference might be unfortunate to some of us, his intended figurative meaning is not so unusual in American dialogue. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be some Republican dirty tricks - ie putting violent words into the black man's mouth.

Jesus, did they pick up Hillary's Obama playbook on E-Bay? ("Surefire Plan for Victory! Only used once!")

First its attacking Obama for being "inexperienced," then its loudly demanding more and more debates, now its piously lamenting his abandonment of the politics of hope everytime he smacks 'em. It's like last January, except this time the opponent is shorter, balder and has no grasp whatsover of policy details.

Obama as the General Election Candidate: "Wanna Rumble?"

Quote from a fundraiser, yesterday I believe, in Philly:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl."

Any comments from you guys?

I think it's fab...and the beginning of "Barry" poking his head through the shroud of "Barack."

This is the kind of Trumanesque rhetoric that's going to bring more and more "average folks" onto his bandwagon.

My(non-partisan)Blog: http://ProteanPerspectives.blogspot.com

I say that it is about time for a Democrat to stand up to the bullying tactics that the GOP has tended to employ since '68. At this rate, Obama won't need as fearsome an attack dog as Jim Webb.

Folks, you gotta read this if you haven't.

McCain: "It's tough to be proud of (America)"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/McCain_doesnt_pick_up_on_Michelle_Obama_joke.html

So much for all that hay they were planning to make on Michelle...

I grew up in the shadow of Chicago and I don't think Obama being from there is particularly significant. The history of politics in Illinois is rooted in corruption more than anything else. Our last governor is in prison at this very moment.

More to the point, Obama saw what happened to the Dukakis and Kerry campaigns when they ALLOWED themselves to be defined by their Republican opponents.

A Democrat who actually has the potential to give back harder than he gets is an utterly new sort of politics. Especially if he can buck everyone up and give the impression that its a group effort and not just the tough guy looking out for all his little nerdlet pals.

And yes all he really needs to do is run lots of ads of Republicans talking to their own. Cue the scary background music. Voila.

Or possibly Barack-Fu.

Well for once it's great to see a democrat who will confront and even attack the fascists rather than do the usual turn & run thing!! Now if the dems will only get out and vote or better yet take advantage of absentee voting!!

Maybe some day we'll have significant others aside from republicans who turn out in large numbers to vote - that's of course how they win, no big secret, they are no majority but hey they do get off their asses & vote.

gonna be a butt kickin

more like a butt whoping, I think

nope, gonna be a butt kickin, gonna pull his pants down and kick him all the way across the turnip patch

Oh, and BTW, I am aching to see those townhall-style meetings that McInsane keeps whining for. 5, 10 whatever. Little Mac is going to get his butt KICKED. Decisively. Unlike Mac, Obama can speak off the cuff; he has tons of data available at all times. That's the difference between being both prepared and highly intelligent (Obama) and being slightly senile and coached. I really really want to see Mac lose his cool. He's famous for it.

A surprisingly poor choice of words.

Obama, you make me proud to be a democrat right now! It's about damn time we had an intelligent man running.
Didn't McOld get the NRA endorsement? Didn't Huackabee make a job ducking gunfire in one of those meetings?

McCain is in for a good ass whooping!
Let's make sure we volunteer to register people. Obama has to win!!

Black man with a gun.

Nice stereotype right there.

Politics as usual. First it's decry the influence of money while spending and taking in the largest sums in political history.

Now it's "new politics" that include reference to attack and counter-attack with lethal metaphors.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Won't get fooled again.

Heh, didn't Howard Wolfson say the same thing after he naively thought that he'd baited Obama into abandoning his campaign of hope and thus knocked him off his pedestal? Yeah, that worked. And now McCain is trying the same thing? Man is this guy stupid.

Or maybe he just wants us to think he's stupid, bwahahahahahaha!

"The Lord hates a coward." Connery says.

That's to all of us. Buckle up, boys and girls. We're about to go up against a fighter pilot and street brawler.

Now Joe Lieberman and Norm Podhoretz can commiserate about how the scary black man threatened them

yeah i saw the mccain video on
http://sensico.wordpress.com/ mccain is kindof a hypocrite and so is his wife for going after michelle on the issue.

McCain the dimmest Republican Presidential candidate since Warren G. Harding, FMArouet21? I'd probably reserve that characterization for the incurious, incompetent, inflexible, and inexcusable George Dubya. At least if you explain stuff to McCain he gets it. It has to be explained, but there you have it. This is as opposed to Dubya, who is steeped not only in an incuriousness as vast and deep as a rock canyon wall, but who cannot and will not accept any perception different from his own.

As for Barack bringing a gun, good. For years I've sat and watched the Dems backing off, equivocating, and being the polite kid trying to reason with the bully. Most Americans don't understand equivocation and mannered discourse. When someone gets up in an average American's face and disses him his opponent tries to give back as good as he gets. It's like what Jim Webb wrote about what he learned from his father. Never start a fight, but when you fight, even if you lose, make sure to mark your opponent so he'll remember that you marked him the last time he messed with you. Works for me.

btw, the "knife .. gun" line (from The Untouchables indeed) has been used by that other Chicago politician, Rahm Emmanuel. Another D with balls.

Say goodbye to Obambi! Love hearing a Democratic Presidential candidate quoting from The Untouchables! Finally!

Oh, I get it, you mean "black."

Keep using code words....

Puh-leaze. Here we go again: You don't like The Dear Leader, you're a racist. And by God, we 'bots will take synthetic offense at any word you use, to prove it.

Freakin' kool-aid drinking racists.

Freakin' kool-aid drinking losers.

McCain needs to get smarter trools.

If only he would sound as tough against Iran and North Korea as he does against McCain. Maybe if he promised to bow up on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad like he did on Joe Lieberman he'd have a chance.

...and how many terrorist attacks have taken place in the US since 9/11?

First of all: You have no idea why this is. Even though there are thousands of competent domestic intel and counter-intel people working on this, every time some Bush crony announces a big bust (usually with politically motivated timing), it turns out the people busted were fairly harmless clowns.

Second of all: If you're going to attribute it to Bush's policies, then you also should attribute 9/11 itself to Bush. It happened on his watch, right? He ignored the warnings.

What Bush and all his tough talk has done is create a global terrorist's recruiting dream.

And let me tell you, I have a good friend who imports many, many containers into Newark, NJ, and he can't explain why there's been no second big attack. Either port security has stuff going on that we'll never know about, or terrorists just don't have the ability.

Has Bush shown one thing that really leads you to believe he's competent enough to be responsible for either one? All he's done is make life tougher for our own security people.