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Obama Hitting McCain Today On Social Security
Barack Obama will be attacking John McCain today on Social Security -- a crucial political issue that could help him get a better share among middle-aged voters and senior citizens, if he can successfully tie McCain to President Bush's failed 2005 push to privatize Social Security.
"He said he supports private accounts for Social Security - in his words, 'along the lines that President Bush proposed,'" Obama will say in Philadelphia, according to pre-released excerpts. "Yesterday he tried to deny that he ever took that position, leaving us wondering if he had a change of heart or a change of politics."
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I like the flip-flopper meme that's coming up with McCain. What's good for the goose is good for the gander as well.
June 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Love this entry on Craigslist via Ben Smith.
- Bush's tax cuts for the rich
- opposition to the use of torture
- campaign finance reform
- the overturning of Roe v. Wade
- and many more!
Price is negotiable.
I think this line of distinction will work well if they captialize on it at the right time. I'd love to see a convention with Kerry in Flip Flops as he opens up for an Obama speech... or ANYONE in flip flops for that matter.
June 13, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't even remember the last time social security was discussed in this election.
June 13, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully prefaced by "John McCain is a true American hero, but...".
I was thinking about this line last night, and it really serves to elevate the discussion to issues and neutralize a response based on condescension and Military service religiosity. I think it will work well.
June 13, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I actually hate that preface.
June 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I did too. I hated it because they wouldn't do it to him. But it's something I think will make his criticism/distinctions resonate with voters. I could be wrong as often is the case. And Obama could be wrong on this too.
June 13, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
What do you mean they wouldn't do it with him? Who is "they" and who is "him"?
I don't like it because I think it's bullshit. And the Dems do it because they're scared of being painted as unpatriotic. McCain was a POW. Yes, we all know that. But that has nothing to do with his awful policy positions on everything from the war to gas prices.
June 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
They = Republicans
Him = Obama
I think the statement has the effect of communicating exactly what you're saying right here. Are Dems timid? Yep. Knocking McCain without conceding his POW/Hero narrative (however opportunistic it may be) is a thin line to walk and I think Obama is doing just that with the statement. Time will tell if he's being too cautious. Seeing how Joe Lieberman is using this a sole defense of McCain's stupid policies, I think they have no shame in using it to their benefit and Obama will need to neutralize it now.
June 13, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yeah. I agree. The GOP certainly didn't offer any sort of preface of respect to Kerry.
I'm at the point now where whatever the Obama camps decides to do, whatever course they set on, I support it. They've proven themselves to be nothing short of brilliant. I like not having to worry anymore. That primary really took it out of me. Haha
June 13, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here Here! 2004 taught dems some important lessons.... lessons Obama and his staff seems to have learned from.
June 13, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not a fan of it either, but it does present a contrast in politeness when McCain then starts all of his speeches with "now, I'm a few years older than Senator Obama..." or refers to him as "that young man."
June 13, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe better: "We all have due respect Senator McCain's more than half century of public service, but..."
June 13, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barack is running preemptive circles around McCain, never letting McCain get the ball. Damn, he's making me happy to be a Democrat.
June 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama sure is painting McCain as McSame. McCain's problem is that in his pander to the nomination he had to kiss a lot of really unpopular right wing ass. All that kowtowing to the far right agenda is going to haunt McSame the rest of the election cycle.
June 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Haha, wonderful. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, keep up the pressure!
June 13, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain camp response: "My position on ________ has always been clear. I have always said that ____________ and for the Obama camp to suggest _____________ is ________________, because we are winning!!! My friends.
June 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Eric - this is happening in Columbus, Ohio - NOT Philadelphia, PA
June 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain really is looking like a huge dunder f-bomb these days. Only a matter of time before he gets a good jab or two in- hopefully too late. Obama's brought a good game so far.
Seriously, wonder if they could overturn McSame at the convention if he's down 10-20% and put in Romney-Huckabee? Would that be totally unheard of?
June 13, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure if that sort of thing has ever happened before, but I just don't think there's a clear consensus for who the alternative would be. I mean there's a reason those other guys didn't beat McCain in the nomination season. It would cause a shitstorm at that convention, frankly. If it happened, I'd probably mail Rush a picture of me laughing at him. Operation Chaos, indeed.
June 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you're probably right. I suppose McCain could try and grab Romney or Huck for VP to help him out. I wouldn't be surprised if he did just that to get a couple extra points.
June 13, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Privatizing Social Security makes about as much sense as solving our health care crisis by offering "tax breaks."
These ideas only help people who don't really need the help. McCain seems to be in lockstep with the President these days.
He's sold his soul to the fringe right in this election, and in return, he'll come away with a shiny 2nd place trophy.
June 13, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I love when politicians fall back on these anti-intellectual, simplistic "Why, the free markets will solve it! Supply and demand!" arguments for every issue. Why not just let people pick what army should defend them?
June 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
The reason Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don't know all about him.
They don't want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger as his compass in life
They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.
They don't want to defend Black Liberation theology.
They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
They don't want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
They don’t' want a candidate that didn't stand up for the voters of Michigan and Florida.
They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
They don’t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and that preaches hatred and racial views that are cruel and nasty.
They don't want a candidate that is inexperienced.
They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
They don’t want a candidate that has a Muslim father.
They don’t’ want a candidate that can’t win a debate
They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”
They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting
They don’t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.
They don’t' want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
He scares them to death.
He is embarrassing.
He is unelectable.
June 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mom's Apple Pie:
3 large Granny Smith apples, peeled, cored, and sliced
1 orange, zested
1 cup fresh cranberries
1/3 cup raisins
1/4 cup walnuts, chopped
1/4 cup all-purpose flour
1/2 cup brown sugar
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
Pie crust dough, enough for top and bottom (from your own favorite recipe)
1/4 cup half-and-half
Sugar, for sprinkling
Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.
In a large bowl, combine the sliced apples, orange zest, cranberries, raisins, walnuts, flour, brown sugar, cinnamon, and nutmeg and mix well. Roll out the bottom dough and place it into a 9-inch pan, leaving 1-inch of pie dough hanging over. Pour the pie filling into the crust. Roll out the top dough and cut it with a scalloped pastry wheel into 15 strips. Gently twist the strips 2 or 3 times, beginning with the longest ones, and place them on top of the pie, working outward and in various angles. Gently fold the bottom crust up over the edge of the pie and flute the edges with your fingertips. With a pastry brush, gently brush the half-and-half over the entire top crust and edges and then sprinkle generously with sugar.
Bake until apples are cooked, about 45 to 50 minutes. (You can check the apples with a fork to make sure they are tender). Remove to a rack to cool. Serve warm or at room temperature.
June 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
haha!
June 13, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ack! You be fergettin da most important ingredient:
180 pounds sour grapes
Jus ain't da McSame widdout dem sour grapes!
June 13, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously, John McCain’s intention to move the Supreme Court even further to the right and overturn Roe is high on the list of concerns regarding women’s issues, but Scott Lemieux had a good item this week reminding us that Roe is just part of a bigger picture.
Yes, it’s true that replacing John Paul Stevens and/or Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a Republican appointee will be bad for abortion rights, although this is likely to occur by further draining content from Casey rather than overturning Roe outright.
But even when it comes to women’s rights, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The enforcement of civil rights protections for women is likely to be much less in a Republican administration, for example. The global gag order will remain firmly in place. And in general, four more years of a tax-cut-supporting, massive-defense-spending GOP president will not only make any kind of serious progressive reform (much of which disproportionately benefits women even if not specifically targeted to do so) virtually impossible for four more years but will also make it more difficult in the future. A McCain presidency would be very, very bad for women even if not a single Supreme Court vacancy opens up during his tenure.
Quite right. We’re not just talking about esoteric issues like Supreme Court cases and speculative high court retirements; this is about the kind of impact McCain policies can and would have on women’s lives every day.
As St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, an enthusiastic Clinton backer, said this week, “You don’t spend your life fighting for women’s rights and then vote for Sen. McCain.”
As it turns out, we can even go further on this point.
David Greenberg, the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood in Oregon, had an especially good item this week on the subject.
John McCain is one of only a few Senators to earn a Zero percent lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood’s Action Fund, and he only scored that high because the organization doesn’t have a lower rating…. Let’s look at his record:
He voted against requiring health care plans to cover birth control (3/22/03).
He voted against comprehensive, medically accurate sex education (7/25/06).
He voted against international family planning funding (3/14/96).
He voted against funding to prevent teen and unintended pregnancies (3/17/05).
He voted against public education for emergency contraception (3/17/05).
And he voted against restoring Medicaid funding that could be used for family planning for low-income women (3/17/05).
NPR reported (2/2/08) that, “Many Republican voters seem to believe, incorrectly, that the current Republican front-runner, Arizona Senator John McCain, supports abortion rights.”
John McCain wants us to believe that he’s a moderate who supports improving the health of women in the United States, but in fact he’s among the most extreme members of Congress who voted against common sense measures on family planning, sex education and access to basic healthcare.
In contrast, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agree on all of these issues.
Just sayin’.
--Steve Benen, Crooks and Liars
June 13, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
No Quarter is that way ---->
June 13, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton supporters are voting for Obama. You are a tool.
June 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain is an untruthful American hero.
June 13, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I noticed good coverage of the tax plans of McCain and Obama, highlighting who benefits from which plan.
i was shocked to see such good and straight forward reporting. I hope it sinks in.
Also, the recent unearthing of video of McCain on Meet the press proclaiming how much he, McCain is like Bush on all the "transcendent" issues.
I'd say Senator Obama is having a good week, all together.
June 13, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a free marketer, but there are limits to free markets. Ask President Hoover.
June 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where did you get the picture of McBush? Do you have a link.
June 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
McFoolish was against Social Security when Roosevelt started thedan things and he remains oppose to it today. See he isn't a flip flopper...
My friends!
June 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think they need to get McCain on tape for each of his flip-flops where he denies taking his prior position put in the form of "I don't recall" having that position, or "I don't remember" or similar. then do a youtube of them strung together like Alberto Gonzales failing to remember basic facts surrounding the Attorney firing scandal in front of the Judiciary Committees.
June 13, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
The sad thing is McCain probably really doesn't recall his prior positions on any issues. Does he even remember how to tie his shoes...or does Lieberman do that for him too?
June 13, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah mccain has flip flopped all over this issues and heres obama blasting mccain on the issue http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/candidates-on-social-security/
June 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink