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Obama Camp: We Opted Out Of Public Financing Because McCain Won't Discuss Reining In 527s

So, did the Obama campaign decide to opt out of public financing because their offers to negotiate with the McCain camp over restricting outside ad spending were rebuffed?

That's what the Obama campaign's top legal adviser claimed in a conference call a few moments ago, as the skirmishing over Obama's decision dragged into the evening.

Chief legal counsel Bob Bauer insisted that he'd communicated their concerns at his meeting with McCain counsel Trevor Potter. Instead, Bauer says, Potter never answered their concerns -- and added that McCain has actually tacitly encouraged such 527s to gear up and go after Obama.

"It seems to me that if we scheduled this discussion," Bauer said, "and we put forward our concerns, and we heard nothing back, nor anything in the meeting that could in any way suggest that fruitful exchanges were productive, it isn't clear to me that the McCain campaign is in the position to accuse us of failing to negotiate."

Here's the audio from the call:


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and added that McCain has actually tacitly encouraged such 527s to gear up and go after Obama.

You could knock me over with a feather!
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McCain supported Obama's fundraising method in 2004:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/06/8763_mccain_hypocris.html


"I think it's wonderful that Howard Dean was able to use the Internet, $50, $75, $100 contributions. That's what we want it to be all about. We want average citizens to contribute small amounts of money, and that's a commitment to a campaign. So I'm for that. I think it's a great thing. I think the Internet is going to change American politics for the better."

McCain won't reign in 527s?! How about Obama doing same with MoveOn and others? Not likely and, more importantly, not possible. Neither can McCain control those acting against Obama. This is simply a distraction Obama is offering for his repeated lies to accept public financing.

I'm sure the Dear Leader's followers will offer up all kinds of excuses for Obama's lie but excuses aside, at least admit he's lied numerous times. And, by the way, is this blatant lying the kind of change you are all proud of?

Hey, the little Republican hack came back, and here we were thinking we were finally rid of you. Done crying over Hillary's loss so soon?

Oh yeah, he hasn't lied at all.

I believe the Obama camp has told supporters to not donate to outside groups, including MoveOn.

Has McCain's people told his supporters to not donate to 527s?

The answer would be "no"

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We don't need to offer an excuse. But you really need to stop whining.

"McCain saying he's going to take public financing is like a guy taking a vow of celebacy after he's struck out with every girl in town. . . it's not like he has any choice!"

Eat shit and die, racist.

he flip flopped. pure and simple. He always seems to go back on his words.

"Just words"???

HHAAAA

I can see the 527 now on this : "Just words?"....

baaaaaaaaaaa! We can't raise money because no one cares a lick about us so all we can do is whine.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, sheep.

As a McSame supporter, we all know that you are VERY familiar with flip-flopping. Very familiar.

Yeah...uh...how does one put this delicately? Nice...Avatar?

You really want to go there?

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Only a complete moron would think that the limited "public financing" system we have for presidential elections in this country is accomplishing anything to limit the purchase of government by the wealthy and corporations. And only a complete FUCKING moron would place a concern over a candidate opting out of such a sham of a system ahead of things like appointments to the Supreme Court and getting out of Iraq.

Which explains why Weaver and RaeKa are so upset about it.

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Can you Democrats and patriots hear the whinging of the rethuglican turds?

It sounds like freedom.
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I haven't "whinged" once today.

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Well, if the McCain held some taffy pulls and sold apples on street corners, I bet they could raise some of their own money.

Republicans: quit whining and get to work!!!

In the primary, McCain took public financing and then backed out of it and spent in excess of the permitted amount without FEC approval. McCain can't be trusted For his offenses so far, McCain could be facing a 5 year prison term.

Look, what Eric's repug shilling post brought ? Repug trolls Weaver and RaeK.

Eric, how did you turn so bitter at such an young age ?

Maybe if McCain knew how to use a computer he could compete with Obama. It can't help with his base that he's going to be relying on taxation to fund his campaign. And besides, does anyone dispute the point that the public funding system is letting the 527s control the campaigns? Maybe there is something to the contention that when the Obama campaign realized that their innovations that have revolutionized fund raising and allowed Obama to not only compete with but blow away the vaunted Clinton and GOP machines without taking PAC or lobbyist money they became less enthused about a campaign that placed limits on Obama but none on swiftboating 527s. Can you blame him?

Well, talk about flip flops!

McCain, 2004 discussing Howard Dean

I think it's wonderful that Howard Dean was able to use the Internet, $50, $75, $100 contributions. That's what we want it to be all about. We want average citizens to contribute small amounts of money, and that's a commitment to a campaign. So I'm for that. I think it's a great thing. I think the Internet is going to change American politics for the better.

He was for the internet before he was against it!

I'm amazed that McCain's been aware of the Internets for four years!

Cindy had to write that line for him though.


Yep. She got it from an old family recipe.

LK

I've certainly criticized Obama for what have looked like inconsistencies and flip-flops.

That being said, I think this is a reasonable decision. It may be that no one can control the 527s, but at least Obama made an effort which is more than McCain bothered to do.

Just hope it doesn't get too much negative spin.

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Us Dems are hilarious... we finally have a fund raising advantage and we're wringing our hands about it and almost considered completely leveling the playing field. Come on, kids... it's a blood sport!

Especially when we are still abiding by the principles of campaign finance reform because we aren't accepting money from lobbyists or PACs, and it is funded by an unprecedented mass of small donors...and our opponent is scamming the system and certainly can't take any moral high road...so yes, why the hand wringing?

destor23: 100% Agreed. I'm not shedding a tear over some inconsequential loss of the high road by Barack. He will be attacked, and he needs every bit of our money to thoroughly destroy his attackers, so he can do nothing less than fix the country.

As for the Republicans trying to scold Democrats: Cry me a river (Weaver and RaeK)...

I don't think taking public funds is the high road.

I don't know anyone who was motivated to get involved or felt a personnel stake in the outcome of an election because their tax dollars went to fund the presidential election. I have found that people feel transformed by finally reaching into their own pocket to donate $25 or $50 believing it actually makes a difference.

So now we have a people funded campaign against a taxpayer funded campaign. And we have people who can spare a few bucks against guys who will pump $50 million at a time.

The high road is letting the people back in to the process. If only we had a system where no one could contribute more than $100.

I meant he supposedly loses the "high road" when he gets charged with "breaking his pledge."

Thank you, Destor! Totally agreed!

And in any case, I think Obama is adhering to the spirit of public financing far more than McCain.

If the concern is donors demanding quid pro quo from elected officials, I think it's fair to say that 1.5 million $25 donors WON'T be demanding sleepovers in the Lincoln bedroom, government contracts, or appointed jobs for so-and-so's nephew.

Can't say the same for McCain's 5 donors.

With "thinking" like this, it's no wonder we've lost so many Presidential elections in the past 40 years.

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No no no...it was rigged, Diebold/Blackwell/SCOTUS/VastRightWingNorthWestTerritory Conspiracy...remember?

Just curious Sgt., did you happen to attend the "Brooks Brothers Riot" in FL in 2000? If so, how do you manage to riot in dress shoes? They're just too slippery and easily scuffed.

McCain is so screwed up in his thought process that he actually thinks that he gets to run his opponent's campaign. That is why he thought he could schedule a series of town hall debates all by himself, and then just order Senator Obama to show up. Now the addled old loon thinks that he can dictate to Senator Obama how he should fund his campaign. Dear Senator McCain, with the greatest of respect, may I say to you, Get Bent!

McCain needs to stick to his own knitting, provided he can still shear enough woolly mammoths to provide the yarn.

Liam: I said somewhat the same thing earlier. When is McCain going to talk about McCain, every day he is attacking Obama, and I suspect it is because he has nothing else to talk about that is relevant.

My son is in his last year of his medical residency, and he said they were required to compare McCain's and Obama's health care proposals. His opinion was that McCain threw something together that makes little sense and appeared little more than a sound bite, whereas Obama explains his on his website, then directs you to the entire 50 page proposal. This is the difference in substance, and I would argue experience. Obama has the experience to pull people together to fix problems, McCain just pulls people apart. Apparently his trollop wife (his words) had fun doing that again today to Michelle Obama. They are two of a kind, selfish.

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Hey everyone, have lurked for months; can lurk no longer.

Obama will be bashed by establishment concern-trolls like the New York Times for doing this, but I don't see how their arguments hold up against 1.5 million voters and counting. Obama 08 may very well have redefined "public financing" for all future presidential campaigns.

Of course, McCain is relieved, in any case -- now he no longer has to worry about being stuck with a paltry $80 million public financing sum. He can now add hundreds of millions to the other, "unrelated" millions that will be spent by vicious 527s in the cause of smearing Obama.

Of course, it never occurs to everyone that maybe all presidential campaigns could be financed from one piece or other of our federal budget pie, and never mind the cost to taxpayers. Call it the "price of citizenship". I reckon the USA could set aside a billion dollars every four years for the presidential election. Nah -- let's spend a billion dollars next week in Iraq instead. "Priorities".

McCain opted in to public financing yesterday. Personally, I believe the reason for this is that he can't raise more than what they are offering.

So to sum up, Obama gets to do the wrong thing becasue McCain has (allegedly) broken the rules. So two wrongs do make a right?

So we get to torture people because they intend to do us harm? The ends justify the means, right?

No, it's the "he made me do it" loophole. I wasn't going to bring a gun, but he brought a knife. I hope the little people understand.

Wow, that's a really lousy analogy. "Not doing the right thing" = torture?

And that's why "Argument From Analogy" is a 1st class fallacy.

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