New McCain General Election Ad: "I Hate War"
This is subtle. Take a look at John McCain's first ad of the general election:
"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war," McCain tells the camera. "I was shot down over Vietnam and spent five years as a POW. Some of the friends I served with never came home. I hate war. And I know how terrible its costs are."
The key to understanding this, I think, is that McCain is using his bio to achieve separation from George W. Bush. He's suggesting -- without saying directly -- that even if he's continuing Bush's war policies, he's different from Dubya in that he understands the costs in a way that Bush never did.
The subtext: "Even if that reckless chicken-hawk took us to war, someone who actually understands and has experienced the costs of war -- someone you can actually believe -- is here to tell you that we must continue it."
Tellingly, there's no mention of Iraq in this particular spot. The McCain campaign claims it's a significant buy, with the ad airing on cable and in key swing states. Details to follow later today.















In all seriousness, does this man have anything else to run on other than being a POW?
June 6, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ya beat me to it, my friend! Great minds think alike!! ;)
June 6, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course Mccain hates war...and here's proof:
* Thousands of US military personnel with RIP added to their names.
*The safest place on earth is downtown Bagdad (no kevlar required!)
*McCain voted againstthe Iraq war.
*2013 is nothing but a random number
June 6, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
If John McCain wants to spend millions on an ad reminding the country of the awful costs of war, fine by me! (Who the hell is advising this campaign?!)
Any worry I might have had that his joint town hall appearance challenge to Obama might be a trap have been allayed. These idiots wouldn't know how to lay a trap if they started with their prey already in the cage!
June 6, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb what McCain...?
June 6, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo.
This is the only thing that needs to be said in response.
June 6, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. McCain hates war, he just loves bombs!
June 6, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't hate the player, hate the game...
And McCain loves himself some player
http://tinyurl.com/6rw3gc
June 6, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blech! The half-face thing is creepy, the music is creepy, his voice is creepy, and I HATE the way he says "President" - more like "Present". And am I the only one that's already sick and tired of hearing about his war experience? I know that's all he's got but give it a rest, already. His war experience certainly didn't stop him from being a goddamned warmonger later in life, did it? You would think that anyone who has been through what he has would be a little more cautious about starting pre-emptive wars with countries who were absolutely no threat to us.
June 6, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or, for that matter, you'd think a man who has been through what he has would, you know, be against torturing people.
June 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
As my kids say, Word up!!! ;)
June 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's the Mavericky way!
June 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
mmmm mmmmm, so straight talky.
June 6, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe your assaulting his truthiness!
June 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
On the contrary, the man has been positively OBSESSED, itching, aching to go to war. I'd bet you it's why he's in politics. He doesn't hate war, he lives for it.
June 6, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose we could get all psycho-babbly and say that he has a repressed desire (well, maybe not so repressed) to inflict punishment on the brownish and yellowish people of the world for the things that were done to him.
And to be clear, I'm not mocking him, though I am mocking armchair psychiatrists just a bit. If I'd been through what he had, I'd have some pretty f*ed up attitudes about some things as well, I'm sure.
June 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, what he went through was unimaginable to most of us and must have left deep psychic and emotional wounds. But do we want someone with those kinds of fucked up attitudes with his finger on the button or getting the 3AM phone call?
June 6, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's too much like Bush. I don't trust the man with the power of the US military at his disposal. He will, of course, abuse it.
June 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absotively posilutely not!
June 6, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am against playing the PTSD card (I am actually against the whole "card" lingo as well) but I think it is a mistake for McCain to actually say "I was a POW for five years." Most people already vaguely know that he was a POW, and that makes him sound like a hero, but I think when people hear "five years" they think, "Holy cow, I bet that really messed up his head."
Also, I think all the black and white photos emphasize how long ago that was (it makes it look like WWII, in fact) and it reminds people that he's framing everything through the lens of this long-ago conflict. It makes him seem more out of touch and more frozen in the past.
June 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen on the atmospherics. Seriously, who the hell is consulting on his optics? First the genius Green Background, & you light the guy to look like Lex Luthor?
The content is almost as bad. I've tried to point out before: Anyone who cares about the bio already knows, & Timmy Russert will repeat it ad nauseum. Hell, so will Barack himself! Unless their resources are way more plentiful than reported, it's baffling that they're spending $$ on an ad which addresses the voters' interests not one whit while packing 9 personal pronouns in 30 seconds. Narcissism loses, as they should have learned from Hillary.
Please John, keep this media team. It's the best thing you can do for the country.
(sorry for the diary-pimping; couldn't resist :-)
June 6, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
WTF?!?!?
Seriously . . .
WTF?!?!?
June 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, mcbush is an american hero and spent 5 years in a prisoner of war camp. That said, he really doesn't have a clue about the costs of war and ground combat. He was in the air force. I have seen reports of military people saying that mcbush is clueless. He throws around the fact that he served, but he knows nothing about military operations and occupation issues. I am starting to get the distinct impression that the guy is dumb as a rock. Third from the bottom of his class at annapolis is not a good thing. He probably would have been kicked out but for his father being an admiral.
June 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oops, my bad not air force, but navy pilot. Same issues though.
June 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Someone on here a few weeks ago mentioned that McCain's old commanding officer has weighed in on the election and called him unfit for President. I've yet to be able to confirm that.
June 6, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, now that you mentioned it, I recall hearing that before. I do recall senators and military people "off the record" stating that the guy was clueless about military matters. I just hope all this comes out in the general election. We don't need another clueless buffoon running the white house, perpetuating the iraq war and invading other countries, iran.
June 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the same vein, someone (Andrew Sullivan, I think. Or it might have been Josh) did a great analysis of McCain's political/foreign policy style compared to the mindset of fighter pilots. It was very interesting.
June 6, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, don't undersell the guy. He was not 3rd from the bottom of his class -- he was fifth.
June 6, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
5th from the botton. 894 out of 899.
The navy wouldn't dream of puting a current USNA graduate with that level of academic achievement in a $100M+ dollar jet. The FA22 is $350M. I'll bet that the bottom quartile of his fellow USNA grads never saw the inside of a jet cockpit. That is what naval royalty brings you.
Prior to getting shot down, McCain was considered reckless and had several crashes.
His father and grandfather were admirals. From the moment he was thrust from the womb he was living off taxpayer funds. Nothing has changed.
I guess one man's entitlement is another mans military budget.
June 6, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of his crashes was against a sneaky enemy --- power lines.
And then there is the Forrestal story....
June 6, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
They've had three months with NO incoming fire and this is their first shot? The music sucked. The flashes of him reminded me of Fight Club. And the heavy shadowing was disturbing (and I know they were trying to mask the scar, but still).
Not a good ad.
June 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is a creepy vid.
Greg, your penultimate paragraph says it all.
June 6, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Always something I've wondered. During the Primary Hillary would come out with an ad and no more than a day later Obama would come out with a response ad. I would really like to see a behind-the-scenes of how these get made so quickly.
Do they just find the nearest studio to whereever Obama happened to be that day and film something quick?
June 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not a bad ad.
Until you remember "Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb, Iran," at which point it falls flat on its face.
Keep trying, John.
June 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
That will be Obama's first ad - the words in this ad juxtaposed with the "Bomb, bomb" thing, with the 100 years in Iraq statement, with his vote to authorize war, with his vote authorizing torture. God, this is too easy...as Bugs Bunny said, "what a maroon"!! ;)
June 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well let's talk then McLame, you immoral POS - you hate war? Then why the fuck did you authorize and cheerlead this war and
Torture!
You voted for torture, you miserable fuck! You who know what it really is voted to allow our government to break international law and torture people.
Do not tell me that shit about you hate war. Liar.
June 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Much better said by FDR:
June 6, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
FDR? Sorry, that sounds like churchill. I don't think FDR saw any ground combat. I could be wrong though.
June 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
FDR could not join the military due to his physical issues, but he visited WWI battlefields as Assistant Secretary of the Navy.
http://www.sagehistory.net/worldwar2/docs/FDRChautauqua.html
June 6, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, thanks. Learned something new today. It's a good day.
June 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, his bout with polio came after WWI, so that wasn't the reason he could not join active service.
June 6, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I actually think that he had other health problems that prevented active duty military service if I recall correctly.
June 6, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! Have they ever set themselves up for a devastating Moveon ad.
OPEN: A five second clip of this video in which McCain says, "Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war."
CUT TO: McCain singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb. Bomb, Bomb Iran."
CUT TO: McCain casually saying, "Why not make it 100 years, 1,000 years, 10,000 years?!"
CLOSING CAPTION:
YOU DO THE MATH.
June 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I think maybe the dems should dust off the daisy ad. As every day goes by, it seems more and more appropriate.
June 6, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep!
June 6, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even better:
OPEN: A five second clip of this video in which McCain says, "Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war."
CUT TO: Bush saying, "Bring 'em on!" followed by McCain singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb. Bomb, Bomb Iran."
June 6, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I actually thought McCain was talking about Obama, and I didn't see it as a distancing of oneself from George W. Bush.
June 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just recently GWB spoke to our military in Afghanistan and told them how he wished he could participate in the fighting because it's "romantic."
June 6, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
You would think having been tortured for five years during a war of choice, he'd think twice about not just backing, but DOUBLING DOWN, on another war of choice and torture. You know you are a bad ass when you rebel against yourself.
June 6, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uh yeah!
If he doesn't get hit with that torture vote over and over I will be so damned disappointed.
That was flat immoral and should just disqualify McLame and anyone else involved from holding office in this country.
And goddamn it I mean that.
June 6, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the authoritarian mind set, McCain is saying to innocent "enemy" civilians and US troops, "My friends, this war is really going to hurt me more than it's going to hurt you".
June 6, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's spending over $3 million on it - and putting it up in swing states like Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
June 6, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, in essence, he's donating three mil to the Obama campaign!
In swing states!
Dude is awesomely charitable!!
June 6, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, when McCain was young war was different.
You'd jump on your dinosour, grab a stick and try to club caveman bob off his dinosour. If you won you got to club a female for mating puposes.
Little known fact: The recent movie "10,000 BC" is based (loosely) on McCain's youth.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10000_bc/
June 6, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Guess what? I don't have to be divorced to help someone in therapy who's going through a divorce. I don't have to be gay to help them with their sexual identity. I don't have to have been tortured to help someone with PTSD. You get the picture.
McShame!
If you turn his argument on its head, then only someone who's NOT been to war knows about peace!
Do not be seduced by repub efforts to bend logic and destroy sense! Avoid McShame's nonsense! Call it what it is!!!
June 6, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
All that comes out of McCain's mouth is military talk in some form. The guy doesnt talk about anything else. We know why, but he should at least mix it up once in a while.
June 6, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "I Hate Kids Today" ad is better. Especially when he's like "Only a fool or a fraud would behave like those bawdy Riverdale teens, with their hot rods and their malt shops and that slacker Jughead..."
June 6, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forty years later John McCain is continues to remind us that he was a POW. No matter what the issue, it always comes back to being a POW. He's like Rudy Giuliani on steroids.
June 6, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Next he'll be taking a call on his cell phone from one of his captors while he's on stage giving a speech. Sheesh.
June 6, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes well there is one devastating answer to that if someone will just have the cojones the minute it leaves McLame's mouth to point out that it had no salutory effect on his moral structure.
He voted for torture and to defy international law and international human rights agreements and recognized civilized govdernmental morality, god fucking damn it.
June 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps voters should read the articles about McCain's military service and senate service before deciding to vote FOR him?
http://usvetdsp.com/
June 6, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a lovely link to Cap'n Cranky's antics as described in The McInnish Newsletter Commentary on Alabama Politics From a Conservative Viewpoint
For Conservatives: Now What? By Hugh McInnish
http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2008/02/rightists-call-mccain-insane.html
an excerpt -
In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed "f--- you!" at Texas Sen. John Cornyn (R) , who had been raising concerns about the legislation.
June 6, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Collect all McShame's bad words. Send them around to evangelicals!
June 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
A link off the article idak posted contains the following gems from a former fighter pilot:
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_052106.htm
June 6, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Mavericky McSame argue prudence in the run up to the war with Iraq? Running an ad with the absence of those statements would be (IMHO) a devastating retort.
June 6, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mavericky McSame lol - excellent Can I steal that? Spread the meme?
June 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's very good ad. Needs an immediate response by bringing up his record about voting for torture and in every issue resorting to aggressive measures. IMMIDIATELY. I believe it is as good an ad as the 3 am which worked well on peoples' fears
June 6, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.
As you can tell, torture and breaking international law really upset me and I don't think he is qualified for that reason to hold office and that's a goddamn fact, if our government and justice system would just get real.
June 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war."
Don't be so hard on yourself Gramps!
June 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, that would be a good response ad. Play that line, then a bunch of clips with McCain talking tough about war, and as pointed out in other comments there are plenty of them out there, then the tag line would just be "So which one are you, Senator McCain?" Or would that be too over the top?
June 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
He is going to be the Rudy Giuliani of POW isn't he?
POW POW POW!!!
POW!!!
June 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
P08W
June 6, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should've spent the last three or four months at speech camp. Or teleprompter camp, at least.
June 6, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have never seen a candidate rest a campaign on his service more than McCain. Unfortunately, he will quickly learn that Americans do not vote biography. That is why Ronald Reagan defeated Naval Academy graduate and submarine commader Jimmy Carter. That's why Bill Clinton defeated WWII heroes George HW Bush and Bob Dole. That's why George W Bush defeated John Kerry, who left Vietnam with a Siver Star and three Purple Hearts. Americans do not vote for a candidate's war record.
But keep talking about Vietnam. Please.
June 6, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Looking at the ad, I was struck by one thing, and this is subliminal shit: during the entire ad, only the right side of his face is lit, the left face is in shadows.
First of all, the left side of his face is the one that is scarred from cancer surgery. It the campaign deliberately skewing away from this aspect of his physical condition?
On a more subliminal level, when you show an ad like that where your candidate is HALF IN SHADOWS the message it give me is that this guy is in hiding in some fashion or other. He does not appear to be willing to show me his whole being. Subliminally, I ask, "Why is John McCain hiding in the shadows."
Some people think this is a great ad, but I think is way too sepulchral and will spook some people out.
June 6, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks. [MSNBC, 1/28/03]
It’s clear that the end is very much in sight. … It won’t be long. It, it’ll be a fairly short period of time. [ABC, 4/9/03]
We’re either going to lose this thing or win this thing within the next several months. [Meet The Press, 11/12/06]
One hundred years, one thousand years, ten thousand years or until the earth collapses under global climate change. [Townhall meeting, 1/08]
My friends, the war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years. [2/25/2008]
June 6, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
That campaign ad is not only depressing, its funny. Why is John McCain mentioning death in his campaign ad. Campaign commercials are suppose to be uplifting........that was like watching an ad for a funeral home service.
June 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, I feel sorry for McBushSame.
The add is so dark, and depressive, No energy, and on top, it is another lie.
I just saw the Rasmussen report, with Senator Obama with a 5% lead. I know it does not mean much, but it is a good sign.
And McBushSame is only 8% ahead in WV, this is very surprising.
June 6, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a fool and a fraud!!!!!!!!!!
Please TPM, quick re-edit with all the times he spoke romantically about flying in Vietnam... How great things are in Iraq, Arguing with Chuck Hagel on the Senate floor about the war, Talking about the first time he heard about Pearl Harbor, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran.
There is so much...
Oh, Oh, Oh... and what has he called the protesters in the 60's and 70's who opposed the war... How many times has he criticized Dems who oppose the war... Does Defeatocrats ring a bell.
He is going to lose this by his own words.
June 6, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess "I Hate Torture" didn't work as well as "I Hate War", but only minimally.
June 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war."
So what is McCain excuse for do it?
Is he trying to rewrite history - the part where he swaggered around Iraq in a flack jacket with troops and Blackwater hovering all around him?
Does McCain know from day to day what the hell he has been doing? This is another WTF ad?
And this war, war, more war shit. What is this Republican love for exceptionally stupid morons for President. How bad have those Southern and Appalachia public Schools gotten?
June 6, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish stupid, transparent ads like this one didn't sway voters.
June 6, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Raining bombs down on the people of Vietnam is not heroic. Sitting in a jail in North Vietnam is insufficient punishment for bombing and killing and there is nothing heroic about it. Bombers are not heroes. John McCain is not a hero. Never was. He was a hard-drinking bully, a Navy jet jockey killer.
The real John McCain was revealed the day he hugged George Bush. He's an old, confused, perhaps dotty, hack politician with a red nose. He's an opportunist with no guiding beliefs or convictions. He postures and changes positions to suit the day, the audience, the opportunity.
There will be no White House for John McCain, no redemption for the old killer.
June 6, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
First, is he calling Bush a fool for statements he's made with "bring 'em on" and the latest excerpts from Gen. Sanchez's book?
Second, I am not sure I think given our people tortured, that being tortured gives you the status of being a war hero. Think about it. That supposed bad ass we tortured and left blank eyed, is he a war hero now?
June 6, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's statement that he hates war (I'll take him at his word) reminds me of another statement by a famous general: "I hate war but I love the smell of it."
Problem is, I can't remember who said it, and googling does not help.
And then there is Kilgore in Apocalypse Now:
And then there is John McCain: "Bomb bomb bomb Iran..."
Coincidentally there is an article by Chris Hedges' Collateral Damage at Salon. His thesis: Iraq has become a killing ground.
I would send a copy to McCain if I believed for a second that he would read it.
June 6, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know this will be unpopular and I will be attacked for voicing an opinion that differs from the masses, but I think it's a brilliant ad- if for no other reason than how much it's despised on this board.
The ad isn't made to appeal to people like me who would never for a Republican under any circumstances, it's for the so-called undecided (i.e. stupid) voters. I think it's very effective and it worries me.
June 6, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Taken by itself, it's a smart and probably effective ad. It's the only way he can possibly stand up close to the peace vote without contradicting everything he's said about Iraq and Iran ("I hate war." Of course, who doesn't?). But it's sort of telling that he feels the need to reintroduce his biography. You'd think that after a few decades as a national figure, people would know that already and you could spend your money on something else.
June 6, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's a measure, too, of the success of Obama in tying him to the war and Bush. McCain's only road to success is to break those links, which will be an uphill task given all his statements over the past five years. He's in serious trouble. Take a look at the new Rasmussen poll that shows, like a Survey USA poll, Obama with a narrow lead in Missouri. If McCain loses states like Missouri and Virginia, he has no hope of winning.
June 6, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
very good ad and a slap in the face to bush and the neocons. as i said before in my opinion i was always worried if mccain won the primary we would very likely lose the election. dems were very right to be VERY worried about mccain. he will move to the middle just as obama will have to.
he comes across very moderate and yet strong. interestingly enough while he may piss off his party about his original position on immigration, he backed away from it due to the public outcry against it. the pundit rachel maddow mentioned this would hurt him with hispanic voters. well what they are forgetting is if obama touts amnesty it will hurt him even more in the general election. obama will play it safe and will also deny he would support the amnesty legislation. the immigration debate will be a wash/loss for both dems and mccain.
both parties better not bring it up as the american public will vote against anyone who supports amnesty democtat or republican.
June 6, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I find most disconcerting is McCain's background as an aviator. I think he is pre-disposed to application of air power and long-range naval missiles as a military panacea. He doesn't understand ground forces at all and has an aviator's bias against them. The Army and the Marines are seriously overstretched, but McSame will have all those intact, shiny air and naval units to play with. He likes the idea of precision munitions and "surgical strikes."
If McSame is elected, I foresee a Pentagon dominated by the Air Force, a reckless over-optimistic application of airpower, and serious distortions in the defense budget to the neglect and detriment of ground forces. Having a President with no prior military experience is vastly preferable to having one with an air-power bias. Obama has humility and will rely upon military advisors. McCain imagines himself an expert in all military affairs--but his strategic thinking is shallow, biased, and one-dimensional. That's dangerous for a commander-in-chief. Just look at the result of having an AWOL Air National Guard pilot in charge for eight years.....
June 6, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see. We have to fight an endless war because he hates war.
How Orwellian.
McCain is certainly proving to be a flipflopping triangulating weasel-mouthed pol.
What a slimeball.
June 6, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, let me make a few points, I look at John McCain' record-he graduated thrid from bottom of his class at Anapolis, was a playboy fly boy with enough women and affairs to make Bill Clinton jealous (by the way they were even porbably more attractive than Bill's selections). He never commanded anything larger than a training squadron and his last years in military were spent as the full time lobbyist fro the Navy on capitol hill-Frankly, it makes me a little concerned that various reports claim he was under consideration to necome an admiral, his major qualification seemed to be he was skilled at catering to congress and his grandfather and father were admirals (by the way is admiral a family business). I will not make fun of his prisoner of war experience-I honor him for the suffering he endured. Having said that it makes him no more qualified to Commander in Chief than anyone else. Look people, the job of President is to determine the political issues regarding war not the military issues-that is why we have a professional military and under the law the Cahirman of the Joint Chiefs is the primary military advisor to the President and reports to him in this capacity directly and not through the Secretary of Defense (did some one in Joint Chiefs miss that law before the Iraq invasion). RIchard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson and George Bush one all had military expeience-didn't exactly help-LBJ in fact took that title so seriously he gave direct orders on bombing and troops in the field kind of too close to the action to make good judgements if you ask me. Last thing I want is a commander in chief who wants to actually directly command the military and thinks it knows how.
John McCain is an admirable human being with short temper (that makes me a tad nervous in President), arrogance, no domestic platform not already offered and failed by Bush II and the mistaken belief we are at war in Iraq-SOrry people we are at war in Afganistan, we are using 120,000 plus troops in Iraq to act as a police force and peace keeper for IRAQ-Ironically a tak we normally throw to the UN becasue our military leadrs have told the civilian government over and over they were not a peace keeping force.
AN example of the real mission of the Military and decent advise by Chairman of Joint Chiefs was the CLinton administration plan to invade Haiti. Teh Chairman said no I dont think so unless you figure out who is going to take over keeping peace, the CLinton had to form a police force from multiple countries and send it in after the troops under the command of Commissioner Kelly of the NYPD.
One wonders about McCain and Bush abandoning diplomacy, ineptly using economic powers is that the only tool left that actually works is the military. IS this a case where if all you have as a tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail?
June 6, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is a terrible ad, enveloped in sepulchral black with the left half of McCain's face totally in the dark. If anything it reinforces the sense of his age. His left face, the one that is scarred from cancer surgery, is hidden suggesting that they want to move attention away from his health condition.
There is also another subliminal effect to me and that is by keeping half of McCain's face hidden all the time there is a subtext of McCain wanting to remain in the shadows, for whatever reason. Now all politicians want to keep things from us, and I don't blame then. But why go out of your way to communicate this subliminally. (My feeling is the makers of the ad didn't even think about this unintended effect.)
And here for me is the kicker: it is a narcissistic statement, telling us he opposes war because of the trauma it caused to him. It tells us nothing about how he feels about the effect of war on other people...the soldiers who fight them, their families, the innocents caught in the crossfire as collateral. OK it is just a 30-second ad and you can't say all those things in 30 seconds. But that he chose to talk about himself I find revealing an disappointing in a presidential candidate.
Conclusion: it is a very bad ad if he thinks it is going to help him get elected.
June 6, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops, it appears I posted a similar opinion at 11:54 which I thought actually got lost by WordPress. Sorry for the redundancy
June 6, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad comes out the day after Phs II of the Intel Report that shows the War was all based on lies and unnecessary and he still supports the War in Iraq and thumps his chest over Iran. The whole ad is an oxymoron to the positions he has taken. War is in his genes. It is all he knows.
June 6, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, does that make george bush and fool and a fraud?
June 6, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
June 6, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain was for war before he was against it.
June 6, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a horrible ad.
Without any context or explanation of why he supports the Iraq War... he simply says "He Hates War."
That creates a HUGE disconnect between his message (never surrender) and his ad (I hate war).
It makes him look, at best, insincere, and at worst like a crazy old man.
June 6, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate war.
But not really.
That's why I had to do an ad to tell you I hate war.
I hate war.
June 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
"30 years ago, our president had all this political capital to finish the job in Vietnam and wasted it. If I become president, I wouldn't waste it. I would go back to Vietnam and finish the job."
Yes, creepy half face. Mixed message, clearly ending on the note: Now let's continue this war I hate.
June 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I haven't seen any rebuttal ads from the Obama a camp. Is there at least any good youtube ads targetig this that anybody could point me to?
June 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink