McCain: Obama Would Equal Carter's Second Term
It's surprising that it took this long, but McCain has finally gotten around to comparing Obama with Jimmy Carter:
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In an interview with Carl Cameron today, Sen. McCain introduced some new pushback to Sen. Obama's assertion that the GOPer represents a Bush third term. The presumptive Republican nominee instead argues that the Illinois Democrat is promoting policies that would mean a second term for President Carter."You know one of his favorite phrases is that I would be a Bush third term. Well I think maybe his proposals could be Carter second term," McCain told Fox.
It's another indication of the massive generational gap between the candidates. This is obviously an effort by the McCain camp to sow doubts about Obama among Jewish voters, but really, does anyone imagine that this comparison carries real emotional import for voters now?
Also, this is clearly an effort by McCain to keep up the attacks on Obama's willingness to meet with hostile foreign leaders, but it's worth noting that Obama criticized Carter's decision to meet with Hamas.
Either way, expect more evocations of Carter. Lots more.















Obama compares McCain to Bush.
McCain compares Obama to Carter.
Only problem is, Bush is still fresh in all of our minds. Carter, not so much.
June 9, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose it's better than comparing him to William Jennings Bryan. At least most people remember Jimmy.
June 9, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn it. Didn't close the tag right. Damn these uneditable posts!
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/mccain_compares_obama_to_willi.php
June 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most people at TPM. Most voters propably know nothing of the Carter Administration. McCain was on NBC last night with Brian Williams and had the same comments. He seemed to be suffering early dementia. really bad interview.
June 10, 2008 6:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Early? It's early when you get dementia in your fifties or sixties; he's at the age when it begins to creep in, like when you get words confused, or can't keep things straight, like Sunni & Shia, etc.
June 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was the first thought I had; he's moved from the turn of the last century to the 1970s for his hysterical references. That's progress, I suppose.
Though how Obama could be like both Bryan and Carter is another question entirely.
June 10, 2008 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Someone tell him what century it is
June 9, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
HT KOS
Rasmussen, July 2007:
Jimmy Carter
Approve: 57
Disapprove: 34
George W. Bush
Approve: 41
Disapprove: 59
June 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL...is this guy stuck in the 20th century or what?
June 9, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain really wanted to say that an Obama Presidency would be like James Buchanan's second term, but his advisers made him stick at least to the 20th Century.
June 9, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
so everyone's pointed out how very "passe" this comparison is.
McCain is just OLD.
What?
If people know Jimmy Carter today it's that he builds houses for habitat for humanity. Because that's the comparison you want folks to bring to mind. A former president actually DOING something about affordable housing.
and what's more - The last democratic party president that most folks remember in office is Bill Clinton. There was still $1 gasoline, we could mostly make ends meet and he had a reputation with the ladies.
what's wrong with that?
June 9, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus he won a Nobel Prize!
June 10, 2008 5:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, from a bunch of NORWEIGIANS!!! The neo-cons think that those prizes are for communists!
June 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL! I was just listening to an interview with the author of a book on Nerds, and the topic under discussion was how the Republicans have positioned themselves as the anti-cosmopolitan party. And we ain't talking booze.
June 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL! I was just listening to an interview with the author of a book on Nerds, and the topic under discussion was how the Republicans have positioned themselves as the anti-cosmopolitan party. And we ain't talking booze.
June 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
All it will do is remind people of McCain getting compared to Bush.
Good job McCain.
June 9, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly right. As with the lime jello motto, he's completely letting Obama define the debate. Love it.
June 10, 2008 3:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was my thought. The more McCain repeats the comparison to Bush in order to deny it, the happier I'll be.
June 10, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because Jewish people hate having a secure safe border with Egypt for the past 30 years?
June 9, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess Greg is referring more to Carter's recent book, which pissed off the AIPAC set quite a bit, but if that was McCain's intent, harkening back to the administration that did more to enhance Israel's security than any in history is an odd way to go about it.
(in short: Greg, WTF?)
Incidentally, Carter exemplifies how a former president can contribute to our politics, aside from all the good works: speaking truths to power that those still facing elections feel they can't.
June 10, 2008 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
See, even though I do remember the Carter administration (sort of), I don't associate Israeli antipathy to it.
I associate the word "stagflation".
Actually, I want to here what the corporate sector has to say about Obama's economic ideas. I don't necessarily want to see them placated, but I also don't want them getting all riled up and providing hostile quotes to McSenile.
June 10, 2008 7:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
and here i thought mcCain was stuck in the 80s. I stand corrected.
June 9, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
it's cool to be retro. he must be catching reruns of that seventies show.
June 9, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
More like Lawrence Welk! Or maybe Spin & Marty when he is lucent.
June 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD5egvox4SM
June 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE
June 9, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
that's pretty hilarious but it flatters him too much!
June 9, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dan Abrams is like the last bastion of MSNBC journalist still singing the Clinton VP meme. lol
June 9, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday all of my troubles seemed so far away.......
June 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
To my mind, there's some rub here for McCain.
If we'd listened to Carter during the energy crisis of the late 1970s, we'd likely not be where we are now with $4-a-gallon gasoline.
June 9, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
and more affordable solar energy for our homes....
June 9, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain doesn't know enough about the economy to be the judge of such things. He's hoping people will equate the Iran Hostage Crisis with Obama. National security is all he's got...and he's worthless on that, too. MCcain needs to seriously rethink his strategy.
June 10, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because of the conservation and efficient initiatives from the Carter administration, the nation's energy consumption didn't rise above 1979 levels until 1994 (and that was after a lot of them were gutted by Reagan.)
June 10, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama would be like FDR's fifth term and McCain would be like Hoover's second... WTF? I'm forty-three. I was fifteen when Carter left office, and he has been - hand's down - the best ex-President in my life-time. Even as a president his administration has out performed every Republican in terms of economic and job growth since Eisenhower. Yeah ... I'll take me some Mr. Carter.
June 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hell yeah! I'm with you, give us more Carter! The last decent president we had.
June 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Clinton Foundation has accomplished a great deal, but as far as personal involvement in causes ranging from Habitat for Humanity to various peace processes, Jimmy Carter's post-presidency has far outdistanced that of any other president in this 47-year-old's lifetime.
Furthermore, if Carter's attempt to rescue Iranian hostages --- which turned into a 'copter-crashing clusterfuck --- had been successful, Ronald Reagan may have never happened and Carter would have been, quite probably, an American icon.
June 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Despite all the economic woes we suffered in the 70s, the S&P 500 under Carter significantly outperformed the S&P 500 under Bush. Hey Chimpy, where are all those market gains that were supposed to result from cutting the capital gains and dividend tax rates?
June 10, 2008 6:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
What?!? That's crazy! Ever heard of the term "Stagflation?" It was coind specifically for the Carter economy. Double digit inflation, high interest rates high unemployment almost zero economic growth...where are you getting your numbers from?
June 10, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously dude, you need to bone up on what "Staglfation" is before we can start to have a conversation. It wasn't "coind specifically for the Carter". Nixon and Ford suffered under it and implemented wage and price controls as a result. The oil shortage of the '73 perpetuated stagflation into the 1980's. Under Carter, Paul Volker, head of the federal Reserve, used higher interest rates to control inflation. Reagan even continued this policy. Once inflation was under control, interest rates dropped.
Job growth under Carter beats the pants off of any Republican. Try the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Personal wealth is way higher under Carter (the census). And national debt reduction is higher than any Republican (really, you want to question this one?).
If you're interested, which I suspect you're not, all this crap is in Wikipedia and references official government sources.
June 11, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you remember? He is stuck in the late 1800s:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/06/mccain-invokes-wjb-oh-no-he-didnt.html
June 9, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
If only we could have a second Carter term. Sadly, he won't have us:
http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/i_got_what_america_needs_right
June 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
nym and avatar - nice.
June 9, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
This can just be used to point out McCain's age. A lot of voters are not going to connect with a political jab about something that happened in the 70s.
June 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are good things about the Carter years.. such as the Star Wars movies back then didn't suck ass.
June 9, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are also the Camp David Accords and the fact that he saw we were overly dependent on oil as an energy resource some 30 years ago.
June 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't disagree, in fact I alluded to the Camp David Accords in my reply to Greg's statement up-thread about how this is an attempt to hurt Obama among Jews.
June 9, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apologies. Didn't see your allusion above.
And you're right. For me, the first Star Wars was far and away the best.
June 9, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Carter's presidency was flawed in many ways -- he certainly was a better ex-president than president -- but on this front, he was a prophet and a visionary. What a fucking tragedy that it would take three decades or more for the country to start doing what he had the foresight to propose in the 1970s. Though he was looking at it from the standpoint of energy security, imagine how much less of a problem global warming would be had our country adopted his policies back then.
June 10, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about "Back To The Future" ? I am as old as dirt, so I can remember the Kennedy administration. But I wouldn't run for president. Clinically speaking, I don't see how this guy passed a physical. He is in early dementia.
June 10, 2008 6:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Back to the Future was 1985, not the 1976-1980 (i.e. the Carter years).
June 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
First time I've ever agreed with you...
June 10, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
At least McCain's poor historical comparison is from the last half century this time.
June 9, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carter hasn't been President in, what? 30 Years?
Most folks, when they think about him at all, think of a peace-making Nobel Peace Prize laureate.
For a war-weary public, let's just say there are probably worse associations.
June 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama is Jimmy Carter (not that it's a bad thing...) what will McCain's presidencey be like?
McBush. We remember Bush. We do not remember Carter. We've only read about him in history books. He's not the bogeyman McBush is.
June 9, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
If McCain wasn't running for the third term of George Bush he'd be running for the first term of Bob Dole.
June 9, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle said she would NOT vote for Hillary in so many words as repeated in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwzUtonxVE
Yet you people expect Hillary's supporters to now support them?
June 9, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
(emphasis mine)
June 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dearest Lestat:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afuODNDYoQ
June 9, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dearest RaeKa:
Eat shit..
June 9, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you're still working on your rehabilitation
there ....
June 9, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last time I checked, Hillary lost. She is supporting Obama now. Feel free to support the Republican if you really think that is what is best for this country. Good luck with your decision.
June 9, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you are still in the business of being TPM's resident drooling lunatic..
June 9, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
..that comment was meant for RaeKa.
June 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any doubt that RaeKa and his/her supporters wear white sheets in their free time?
June 10, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, is anyone who doesn't back Obama a racist?
June 10, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, of course not. But this GOP troll RaeK is a racist.
June 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is a thread about McCain.
If you didn't get the memo - your candidate has suspended her campaign and is asking those who followed her to the edge of the cliff to support the nominee of the party.
June 9, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary spam is so last week.
June 9, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
But you like Spam, with your Kool-aid, don't you? Sure, you do. You're just "Joshing."
June 10, 2008 1:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
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June 10, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Heh. The only people still around who were old enough to vote for Carter in 1976 are all now over the age of 50...which means, all the people who were old enough to really be paying attention during Carter's term are pretty much over the age of 55...and we already knew that Grandpa Simpson was going to have win with the over-60 crowd who remember the good ol' days of Jim Crow and segregation. Way to go, Grandpa Simpson!
Hey, remember when that asshole Carter put those solar panels on the roof of the White House to symbolize commitment to energy conservation and independence? And then remember when Reagan had them all ripped off as soon as he moved into the White House, even though they were already paid for and removing them cost taxpayer money, to symbolize that only a huge pussy would care about conserving energy and not waking up one day 25 years in the future with a $600 home heating bill?
Good times, good times....
June 9, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you calling me old?
I'm 47. Couldn't vote for Carter, but I've been a political junkie from a young age. Plus, Carter was a fellow Southerner, so I took particular interest.
June 10, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
JennOfArk: You are not fooling anyone. YOU are as old as dirt. You fought in the War of the Babies. You gave Noah a ride on your goat, down to the water's edge. Noah loaned you a last name.
June 10, 2008 2:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
JERUSALEM (AFP) - The parents of Corporal Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier held by Gaza militants for two years, were passed a handwritten letter from their son on Monday, the foundation of former US president Jimmy Carter announced.
The Carter Centre said that its office in the West Bank town of Ramallah received the letter on Sunday in accordance with an undertaking given to the former US president in April by Khaled Meshaal, the exiled leader of the Islamist Hamas movement which is holding the soldier.
"President Carter and his staff will attempt to arrange for a return letter from Shalit's parents to their son and hope that an arrangement enabling Gilad Shalit's release will be reached soon," the foundation added.
The letter was the first evidence Hamas had provided that Shalit remained alive since a recording released on June 25 last year in which the soldier said his health was deteriorating and called on the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to make greater efforts for his release.
Go up to Gilead, and take balm,
Jeremiah 46:11
June 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its worth noting that McCain is equating Carter and Bush as failed Presidents. McCain really doesn't care about the 28% dead-enders and what they think of him. He will throw their dear leader under the bus whenever he can. Thing is, I would love to see a statistic on how many of those dead-enders vote. I imagine they do it quite frequently and you question their leader at your peril.
June 9, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
But we're realists, and if we don't have someone to vote for, y'all usually give us one to vote against.
June 10, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
A 2nd Carter term....
you mean an energy plan that aggressively pursues solar and wind technology, and the executive branch aggressively promoting education, humanitarianism, and social aide to our nation's most needy?
Boy, that sounds sucky...
Remember "community centers"?
June 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget double digit inflation, high interest rates, high unemployment almost zero economic growth and blanket amnesty for draft dodgers.
June 10, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
A lot of us who feel Vietnam was a bad, bad BAD thing have sympathy with the draft dodgers. What I remember of the Carter admin (I was in my early teens) was that he suggested not overdong the air-conditioning and heating, to conserve energy. Put on a sweater, I remember.
Bastard.
June 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jimmy Carter's fatal flaw (and I am not kidding here) is that he has too much empathy. That is what made him such a good person; such an excellent ex-president. But when he had to make decisions about life and death, by his own admission, he thought of every soldier as though it were his own brother.
I totally get that; and it is ONE of the many reasons I would be a bad president, but it limited his decision-making, and when he did make a decision that cost lives he suffered so much that his next decision was not objective.
Put it all together, and I can say without equivocation that I would rather have an empathetic Carter than a psychopathic Bush in the white house any day of the week.
Did Carter come close to ruining our country? Not hardly; in fact he was ahead of his time, and if he had been listened to, our country would have public transportation and an entire industry that would be leading the world in alternative energy sources instead of the pathetic car-based country that we remain.
Now, Bush -- it remains to be seen if he has ruined it. It is up to us, isn't it?
June 10, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you know, about Vietnam? Were you there?
June 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is your point? I haven't been to the moon but I know it isn't made of green cheese!
June 11, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
All I know, is that I'm too young to remember much of anything about Carter, and that I'm also not really that young.
June 9, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's got to be one of those lines his handlers fed him. he didn't really sell it, by laughing at the end of the delivery. They have literally no ideas. They take Obama ideas & slogans and try to repackage them. Lame.
June 9, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That laugh is really disconcerting. It's the same one that peppered the green-screen speech. The guy just looks like he hates doing this and he really thinks he's gonna lose.
June 10, 2008 1:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
A second Carter is about 1000X more palatable than a third Bush. Senator Obama, however, is not a second Carter. I am thrilled at the prospect of his presidency. Dammit.
June 9, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I laughed when I saw the headline.
Say "G'night," Gramps.
June 9, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh my...I thought his image people were idiots for making him do that speech last Tues. Besides the speech and deliver, he gave it before people who remember when Moses was a baby. This just reinforces that McCain is, um...not young-ish.
Talk about "a pre-9/11 mindset".
June 9, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say what you will about Jimmy Carter, but he began a plan to have our country energy independent in 20 years. Then along came Reagan and undid every effort he made and put a halt to everything. Carter doesn't look so foolish today.
June 9, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last election cycle (June 2004):
June 9, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
By Dana Blanton, -FOX News- June 10, 2004
June 9, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is funny. Running opposite a much younger man, Mavericky McSame trots out the only other guy around who's older than him and shouts at the voters - "see!! He's just like Obama!."
And in other news, old man shouts at sky and clouds.
June 10, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention that McCain wishes he had the policy chops of Carter!
June 10, 2008 12:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was the emphasis supposed to be on Mavericky?
June 10, 2008 7:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why not compare McCain to Bob Dole, the hippy hating, viagra popping old loser from the eighties? Both reject universal health care and social security as governmental handouts and find the company of Lobbyists a barrel of laffs.
June 10, 2008 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and they were both wounded war heros...
June 10, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the comparison is very unfair to Carter. Jimmy Carter walks the walk and Barack Obama just talks the talk... Soon he won't even be talking the talk, witness how he sold out the Palestinians at AIPAC.
June 10, 2008 2:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
David, despite your fact-free criticisms of Obama I don't think you're a troll.
I have to ask you: Did Carter "walk the walk" before he was elected? No, he had to get to be President first.
I ask you as well(after Obama is the next president), Will you come back and be specific about what he has done and has not done that you like/dislike? I would prefer that you be specific now, rather than spout the general negatives that you throw out willy-nilly. Most anti-Obama people just say that he is not specific about this or that.
Obama has a website which explains all his specifics, but those who criticize him site one speech or another where he didn't give enough specifics about his positions.
Are you intellectually honest enough to either step up to the plate now, or to do it later?
June 10, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
From: Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/06/world-will-welcome-obama.html
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
The World Will Welcome Obama
In today's Post, Anne Appelbaum asks:
The world will welcome Obama. Nationalism trumps racism, and fear of an extra-national threat trumps such internal biases.
Even in this increasingly global world, nations tend to reduce other nations to single concepts--highly reductionistic and based on media driven perception of current events, and further narrowed by lack of personal experiences (or often research) and by protective impulses. This is human, and we see it here and elsewhere--until the globe is so reduced that such distortions naturally blend into the fuller understanding of more direct experience.
The relief, excitement, and surprise that nations will experience when they find that the current and typically reductionistic extranational concept that Bush equals America is false will override other biases in most of the world--except for those who also exist the world over, whose need for a fanatical hatred is more important than the "better angels of our nature."
There will, of course, be conspiracy theorists who will arise, with their fervent inventions and gap-ridden, convoluted, cherry-picked distortions and "evidence", as they always arrive at moments of change--they, too, even in their anxious desperation and fantasies of control, are canaries in the coal mine of change, however retrograde and pathological. And there will be those, as always, who find safety and security in the blinders and binders of their own personal pasts and traditions, generalizing widely, as they always have, from these to the world. Some will attach their own distortions to these changes; others will rely on such distortions to rappel from such change.
Most will respond with pleasure and hope--if accompanied by an understandable whiff of suspicion carried by the past, and perhaps a moment of equally understandable chest-puffing self-regard that we have seen the light--an acceptable excess, given the opportunities for restoration and repair ahead.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/06/world-will-welcome-obama.html
June 10, 2008 5:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Somehow I think if Obama responds to this it will be a big smackdown and McCain will come out looking like a fool.
June 10, 2008 8:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will take the Carter comparision anytime. Hey, that was when US foreign policy seriously (albeit imperfectly) was committed to making human rights a central component. Few people realize he was help up in Kennedy-like love by many people around the world for his work keeping various political prisoners alive through US advocacy. We could use a foreign policy that took human rights (or any rights, for that matter) seriously and sought peace in the Middle East.
And think about this...where might we be now if we really took Carter's serious call for creative thinking on renewable energy serously for the last 30 years? Mock the cardigans all you want, but the man was trying to "walk the walk" not only as an ex-president, but also as president.
On another note...I think history will more likely vindicate/be kind to Carter than Bush II any day of the week.
June 10, 2008 8:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, that is "held up", not "help up". My wife is the great proofreader and typist. ;-/
June 10, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
If this campaign is going to be about comparing the candidates to previous presidents (or past candidates), great, let's do it. McSame can compare Obama to Bryan, Carter or anyone else. We compare McSame to George W. Bush. We win every time!
June 10, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, mcbush is really at a loss what to do. Now that voters and the media are focusing on him, he is floundering all over the place. His poll numbers are tanking and the economy is tanking big time. He is clueless. Any day we will see an eruption of his notorious temper and lights out. Too funny. Thank you.
June 10, 2008 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post! I actually laughed out loud when I heard that reference to Carter. Ancient history but for McCain it seems so recent.
Also, why bring up Obama's attack on him - he's just reinforcing the message.
Oh wait.... why am I complaining?
June 10, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is a step up from comparing him to William Jennings Bryan -- perhaps he knew him personally? At least McCain is moving up into a more recent century.
June 10, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think McCain is pushing the Israel thing too much and it's going to backfire on him. Republicans here in Texas are starting to worry about the amount of influence Israel has on our foreign affairs and the possibility of war with Iran. Carter is probably sounding pretty good to Republicans about now, because he was able to negotiate a peace treaty in the Middle East.
June 10, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know Carter has become the whipping boy of the Right, but this will NOT help McCain among evangelicals, who remember that Carter was more Christian than Reagan and Bush ever were.
And of course, McCain is unwittingly accepting the "Bush 3rd Term " label.... Not very smart.
June 10, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
BOYCOTT TPM THREADS UNTIL THEY GET THE MESSAGE THAT SENATOR OBAMA WON THE NOMINATION.
June 10, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why did Reagan win?
Because of the economy.
How will McCain fix that?
June 10, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is nonsense. Barack Obama was in high school when Carter was in office.
June 10, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike the subliterate cretin presently occupying the White House, Carter was one of the few presidents of my lifetime who was a consistently impressive extemporaneous speaker. Reagan's "communicator" myth be damned - without his teleprompter he was useless. The only presidents who could compare with Carter, in terms of being quick on their feet, were Clinton and Kennedy.
Carter could give honest, complex and direct answers to difficult questions, and it was always heartening to know that a legitimately elected president was that intelligent, regardless of whether things seemed exasperating on his watch, in some respects. At least there was the sense that he was a good man operating in good faith, as opposed to now, when every assertion or floated idea has to be looked behind for its conniving subtext. People overlook the extraordinarily stressful environment of the Carter presidency, and the fact that if the helicopter rescue in Iran hadn't failed, he probably would have spared us Reagan.
Bush may have taken to channeling Fidel Castro lately, as to his notion that somehow "history will absolve him", but Carter is indeed someone whom history will probably look back upon favorably and cut through the simplistic, derogatory held truths that have distorted his actual stature for many, in recent decades.
June 10, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Some of his work after his term as President will be looked at favorably, and rightly so. His term as President was a disaster.
June 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
All the usual attacks from a GOP candidate:
* he's gonna raise taxes (on the wealthy and the oil companies)
* he's like Jimmy Carter, who is a decent man, unlike McCain, who cheated on and divorced his first wife when she was in an accident, who is only looking out for Number One - himself - and his fellow Number Ones.
The way McCain said Obama will be Jimmy Carter's second term sounded like a real McButthead. Really - McCain speaks in a sniveling tone of voice.
June 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jimmy Carter warned Americans about the energy crisis and managed to get peace between Egypt and Israel. I think he deserves some respect... especially among people who call themselves Democrats.
June 10, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Every time I see St. McCain’s turtle-like mug, I think he’s Paul Simon’s father, but then Paul Simon is 67-effing-years old.
After McCain said he doesn’t know much about economics, it reminded me of this Simon & Garfunkel lyric:
What a wonderful, wonderful world this would be
What a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful world
Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about the science book
Don't know much about the French I took . . .
Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
I don't know what a slide rule is for . . .
Now I don't claim to be an A-student
But I'm tryin' to be
I think that maybe by being an A-student, baby baby
I could win your love for me
Don't know much about the middle ages
Look at the pictures and I turn the pages
Don't know nothin' bout no rise and fall
Don't know nothin' bout nothin' at all . . .
June 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
(Actually was an Art Garfunkel cover of a Sam Cooke hit...don't know who authored it but it was not written by the master himself, PS.)
June 10, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
For an ACTUAL Paul Simon lyric that deals with anti-intellectual vacuity, try:
"When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school it's a wonder I can think at all..."
June 10, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink