McCain Hits Obama Again On Iran, Hammering Him For Opposing Kyl Lieberman
Obama's missed vote on the Kyl Lieberman Iran amendment -- which declared the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist group -- emerged as a major issue in the primary, allowing Obama to contrast himself with Hillary on foreign policy and portray her as being in the Bush corner.
Obama opposed the amendment, and now his opposition to is emerging as a general election issue, with McCain hammering him over in a speech this morning before AIPAC:
I was pleased to join Senators Lieberman and Kyl in backing an amendment calling for the designation of the Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization responsible for killing American troops in Iraq. Over three quarters of the Senate supported this obvious step, but not Senator Obama. He opposed this resolution because its support for countering Iranian influence in Iraq was, he said, a "wrong message not only to the world, but also to the region."But here, too, he is mistaken. Holding Iran's influence in check, and holding a terrorist organization accountable, sends exactly the right message -- to Iran, to the region and to the world.
In the speech, McCain also lobbed familar shots at Obama over his willingness to negotiate with hostile foreign leaders. From Obama spokesperson Hari Sevugan's response:
John McCain promises four more years of the same policies that have strengthened Iran, making the United States and Israel less safe. He promises to continue a war in Iraq that has emboldened Iran and strengthened its hand...He stubbornly refuses to engage in aggressive diplomacy, ruling it out unconditionally as a tool of American power.Instead of recognizing reality, John McCain continues to run on a platform of doubling down on George Bush's failed policies, while carrying on his divisive brand of politics.
McCain's full speech -- and Camp Obama's full response -- after the jump.
McCain's speech:
Thank you all very much. I appreciate the kind introduction, and the invitation to address you. I see we have some students here, including a few from Arizona, and I welcome you to Washington. It's a pleasure, as always, to be in the company of the men and women of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. And I know that all of us are proud to be in the company of the distinguished senator from the State of Connecticut, my friend Joe Lieberman.All of you involved in the work of AIPAC have taken up a great and vital cause -- and a cause set firmly in the American heart. When President Truman recognized the new State of Israel sixty years ago, he acted on the highest ideals and best instincts of our country. He was a man with courage and a sense of history, and he surely knew what great challenges the Jewish state would face in its early years. To his lasting credit, he resolved that the people of Israel would not face them alone, because they would always have a friend and ally in the United States of America.
The cause of Israel, and of our common security, has always depended on men and women of courage, and I've been lucky enough to know quite a few of them. I think often of one in particular, the late Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson. I got to know Senator Jackson when I was the Navy liaison to the Senate. In 1979, I traveled with him to Israel, where I knew he was considered a hero. But I had no idea just how admired he was until we landed in Tel Aviv, to find a crowd of seven or eight hundred Israelis calling out his name, waving signs that read "God Bless you, Scoop" and "Senator Jackson, thank you." Scoop Jackson had the special respect of the Jewish people, the kind of respect accorded to brave and faithful friends. He was and remains the model of what an American statesman should be.
The people of Israel reserve a special respect for courage, because so much courage has been required of them. In the record of history, sheer survival in the face of Israel's many trials would have been impressive enough. But Israel has achieved much more than that these past sixty years. Israel has endured, and thrived, and her people have built a nation that is an inspiration to free nations everywhere.
Yet no matter how successful the nation of Israel, or how far removed from the Holocaust, there are experiences that will never pass from memory. Not long ago I was in Jerusalem with Senator Lieberman and our colleague Lindsey Graham, and we went to the Holocaust memorial, Yad Vashem. And for all the boundless examples of cruelty and inhumanity to be found there, for all the pain and grief remembered there, somehow I was especially moved by the story of the camp survivors who died from the very nourishment given to them by their liberators. They had starved and suffered so much that their bodies were too weak even for food. They endured it all, only to die at the moment of their deliverance.
These are the kind of experiences that the Jewish people carry in memory -- and they are far from the worst experiences of the Holocaust. These are the kind of griefs and afflictions from which the State of Israel offered escape. And today, when we join in saying "never again," that is not a wish, a request, or a plea to the enemies of Israel. It is a promise that the United States and Israel will honor, against any enemy who cares to test us.
The threats to Israel's security are large and growing, and America's commitment must grow as well. I strongly support the increase in military aid to Israel, scheduled to begin in October. I am committed to making certain Israel maintains its qualitative military edge. Israel's enemies are too numerous, its margin of error too small, and our shared interests and values too great for us to follow any other policy.
Foremost in all our minds is the threat posed by the regime in Tehran. The Iranian president has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and suggested that Israel's Jewish population should return to Europe. He calls Israel a "stinking corpse" that is "on its way to annihilation." But the Iranian leadership does far more than issue vile insults. It acts in ways directly detrimental to the security of Israel and the United States.
A sponsor of both Hamas and Hezbollah, the leadership of Iran has repeatedly used violence to undermine Israel and the Middle East peace process. It has trained, financed, and equipped extremists in Iraq who have killed American soldiers fighting to bring freedom to that country. It remains the world's chief sponsor of terrorism and threatens to destabilize the entire Middle East, from Basra to Beirut.
Tehran's continued pursuit of nuclear weapons poses an unacceptable risk, a danger we cannot allow. Emboldened by nuclear weapons, Iran would feel free to sponsor terrorist attacks against any perceived enemy. Its flouting of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty would render that agreement obsolete and could induce Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and others to join a nuclear arms race. The world would have to live, indefinitely, with the possibility that Tehran might pass nuclear materials or weapons to one of its allied terrorist networks. Armed as well with its ballistic missile arsenal, an Iranian nuclear bomb would pose an existential threat to the people of Israel.
European negotiators have proposed a peaceful endgame for Tehran, should it abandon its nuclear ambitions and comply with UN Security Council resolutions. The plan offers far-reaching economic incentives, external support for a civilian nuclear energy program, and integration into the international community. But Tehran has said no.
The Iranians have spent years working toward a nuclear program. And the idea that they now seek nuclear weapons because we refuse to engage in presidential-level talks is a serious misreading of history. In reality, a series of administrations have tried to talk to Iran, and none tried harder than the Clinton administration. In 1998, the secretary of state made a public overture to the Iranians, laid out a roadmap to normal relations, and for two years tried to engage. The Clinton administration even lifted some sanctions, and Secretary Albright apologized for American actions going back to the 1950s. But even under President Khatami -- a man by all accounts less radical than the current president -- Iran rejected these overtures.
Even so, we hear talk of a meeting with the Iranian leadership offered up as if it were some sudden inspiration, a bold new idea that somehow nobody has ever thought of before. Yet it's hard to see what such a summit with President Ahmadinejad would actually gain, except an earful of anti-Semitic rants, and a worldwide audience for a man who denies one Holocaust and talks before frenzied crowds about starting another. Such a spectacle would harm Iranian moderates and dissidents, as the radicals and hardliners strengthen their position and suddenly acquire the appearance of respectability.
Rather than sitting down unconditionally with the Iranian president or supreme leader in the hope that we can talk sense into them, we must create the real-world pressures that will peacefully but decisively change the path they are on. Essential to this strategy is the UN Security Council, which should impose progressively tougher political and economic sanctions. Should the Security Council continue to delay in this responsibility, the United States must lead like-minded countries in imposing multilateral sanctions outside the UN framework. I am proud to have been a leader on these issues for years, having coauthored the 1992 Iran-Iraq Arms Non-Proliferation Act. Over a year ago I proposed applying sanctions to restrict Iran's ability to import refined petroleum products, on which it is highly dependent, and the time has come for an international campaign to do just that. A severe limit on Iranian imports of gasoline woul d create immediate pressure on Khamenei and Ahmadinejad to change course, and to cease in the pursuit of nuclear weapons.
At the same time, we need the support of those in the region who are most concerned about Iran, and of our European partners as well. They can help by imposing targeted sanctions that will impose a heavy cost on the regime's leaders, including the denial of visas and freezing of assets.
As a further measure to contain and deter Iran, the United States should impose financial sanctions on the Central Bank of Iran, which aids in Iran's terrorism and weapons proliferation. We must apply the full force of law to prevent business dealings with Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. I was pleased to join Senators Lieberman and Kyl in backing an amendment calling for the designation of the Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization responsible for killing American troops in Iraq. Over three quarters of the Senate supported this obvious step, but not Senator Obama. He opposed this resolution because its support for countering Iranian influence in Iraq was, he said, a "wrong message not only to the world, but also to the region." But here, too, he is mistaken. Holding Iran's influence in check, and holding a terrorist organization accountable, sends exactly the right message -- to Iran, to the region and to the world.
We should privatize the sanctions against Iran by launching a worldwide divestment campaign. As more people, businesses, pension funds, and financial institutions across the world divest from companies doing business with Iran, the radical elite who run that country will become even more unpopular than they are already. Years ago, the moral clarity and conviction of civilized nations came together in a divestment campaign against South Africa, helping to rid that nation of the evil of apartheid. In our day, we must use that same power and moral conviction against the regime in Iran, and help to safeguard the people of Israel and the peace of the world.
In all of this, we will not only be defending our own safety and welfare, but also the democratic aspirations of the Iranian people. They are a great and civilized people, with little sympathy for the terrorists their leaders finance, and no wish to threaten other nations with nuclear weapons. Iran's rulers would be very different if the people themselves had a choice in the matter, and American policy should always reflect their hopes for a freer and more just society. The same holds true for the Palestinian people, most of whom ask only for a better life in a less violent world.
They are badly served by the terrorist-led group in charge of Gaza. This is a group that still refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist, refuses to denounce violence, and refuses to acknowledge prior peace commitments. They deliberately target Israeli civilians, in an attempt to terrorize the Jewish population. They spread violence and hatred, and with every new bombing they set back the cause of their own people.
During my last visit to Israel in March, I saw for myself the work of Hamas in the town of Sderot, just across the border from Gaza. I saw the houses that have been hit by Hamas rockets. In the face of injuries, death, and destruction thousands of Israelis have fled the town. Many others have stayed, to carry on as best they can. I visited the home of a man named Pinhas Amar, who lives with his disabled wife, Aliza, and their children. One day, last year, the sirens sounded again to alert the town to incoming rocket fire. The rest of the family found cover. Aliza, on the other side of the house, was knocked out of her wheelchair and struck by shrapnel.
This occurred on December 13. And from that day until the day of my visit just some three months later, more than a thousand rockets had struck Sderot. Today, siren warnings are commonplace, the elementary schools are surrounded by concrete shelters and children walking the streets in costume for Purim celebrations did so in fear. No nation in the world would allow its population to be attacked so incessantly, to be killed and intimidated so mercilessly, without responding. And the nation of Israel is no exception.
Prime Minister Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas are engaged in talks that all of us hope will yield progress toward peace. Yet while we encourage this process, we must also ensure that Israel's people can live in safety until there is a Palestinian leadership willing and able to deliver peace. A peace process that places faith in terrorists can never end in peace. And we do no favors to the Palestinian people by conferring approval upon the terrorist syndicate that has seized power in Gaza.
Likewise, Israel's chance for enduring peace with Lebanon depends on Lebanese government that has a monopoly on authority within its country's borders. That means no independent militias, no Hezbollah fighters, no weapons and equipment flowing to Hezbollah.
Hezbollah fighters recently took up arms against their fellow Lebanese, starting the worst internal fighting since the civil war ended in 1990. In the process, they extracted an agreement for a new political arrangement in which Hezbollah and its allies can veto any cabinet decision. As the leader of Hezbollah often reminds us, this group's mission is the defeat of Israel. The international community needs to more fully empower our allies in Lebanon -- not only with military aid but also with the resources to undermine Hezbollah's appeal: better schools, hospitals, roads and power generation, and the like. We simply cannot afford to cede Lebanon's future to Syria and Iran.
And we have an additional task. In the summer of 2006, Hamas and Hezbollah kidnapped three young Israelis -- Gilad Shalit, Eldad Regev, and Ehud Goldwasser -- and have held them ever since. I met with the families of two of these men in December 2006, and heard firsthand about their ordeal. I committed then to bring attention to their situation, to insist that the Geneva Conventions are observed, and to call for the swift release of these men. These men are being unlawfully held, and they must be set free and returned home to Israel.
Another matter of great importance to the security of both America and Israel is Iraq. You would never know from listening to those who are still caught up in angry arguments over yesterday's options, but our troops in Iraq have made hard-won progress under General Petraeus' new strategy. And Iraqi political leaders have moved ahead -- slowly and insufficiently, but forward nonetheless. Sectarian violence declined dramatically, Sunnis in Anbar province and throughout Iraq are cooperating in the fight against al Qaeda, and Shia extremist militias no longer control Basra -- the Maliki government and its forces are in charge. Al Qaeda terrorists are on the run, and our troops are going to make sure they never come back.
It's worth recalling that America's progress in Iraq is the direct result of the new strategy that Senator Obama opposed. It was the strategy he predicted would fail, when he voted cut off funds for our forces in Iraq. He now says he intends to withdraw combat troops from Iraq -- one to two brigades per month until they are all removed. He will do so regardless of the conditions in Iraq, regardless of the consequences for our national security, regardless of Israel's security, and in disregard of the best advice of our commanders on the ground.
This course would surely result in a catastrophe. If our troops are ordered to make a forced retreat, we risk all-out civil war, genocide, and a failed state in the heart of the Middle East. Al Qaeda terrorists would rejoice in the defeat of the United States. Allowing a potential terrorist sanctuary would profoundly affect the security of the United States, Israel, and our other friends, and would invite further intervention from Iraq's neighbors, including an emboldened Iran. We must not let this happen. We must not leave the region to suffer chaos, terrorist violence and a wider war.
My friends, as the people of Israel know better than most, the safety of free people can never be taken for granted. And in a world full of dangers, Israel and the United States must always stand together.
The State of Israel stands as a singular achievement in many ways, and not the least is its achievement as the great democracy of the Middle East. If there are ties between America and Israel that critics of our alliance have never understood, perhaps that is because they do not fully understand the love of liberty and the pursuit of justice. But they should know those ties cannot be broken. We were brought together by shared ideals and by shared adversity. We have been comrades in struggle, and trusted partners in the quest for peace. We are the most natural of allies. And, like Israel itself, that alliance is forever.
Thank you.
The response from Obama spokesperson Hari Sevugan:
"John McCain stubbornly insists on continuing a dangerous and failed foreign policy that has clearly made the United States and Israel less secure. Here are the results of the policies that John McCain has supported, and would continue. During the Bush Administration, Iran has dramatically expanded its nuclear program, going from zero centrifuges to more than 3000 centrifuges. During the Bush Administration, Iran has expanded its influence throughout a vitally important region, plying Hamas and Hezbollah with money and arms. During the Bush Administration, Hamas took over Gaza. Most importantly, the war in Iraq that John McCain supported and promises to continue indefinitely has done more to dramatically strengthen and embolden Iran than anything in a generation."Confronted with that reality, John McCain promises four more years of the same policies that have strengthened Iran, making the United States and Israel less safe. He promises to continue a war in Iraq that has emboldened Iran and strengthened its hand. He promises sanctions that the Bush Administration has been unable to persuade the Security Council to deliver. He promises a divestment campaign, even though he refused to sign on to Barack Obama's bipartisan divestment bill, refused to get his colleagues to lift an anonymous hold on the bill, and willfully ignores the fact that trade and investment between Iran and Iraq continue to expand. He stubbornly refuses to engage in aggressive diplomacy, ruling it out unconditionally as a tool of American power.
"Instead of recognizing reality, John McCain continues to run on a platform of doubling down on George Bush's failed policies, while carrying on his divisive brand of politics. The United States and Israel cannot afford four more years of an unwillingness to change course."















Hasn't McCain missed the most votes of all the candidates this summer? Including the (coming?) global warming vote?
June 2, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The champion of veterans also missed the recent G.I. Bill vote.
June 2, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In McCain's defense he has been in he Senate since the Garfield administration.....
June 2, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really wish you hadn't raised the specter of political assassination.
June 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait, we had a big, orange, lasagna-loving cat as President, and he was assassinated?
June 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
How else do you explain this?
June 2, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, Obama can answer this himself, Wednesday, when he speaks before AIPAC.
Those poll numbers from North Carolina are interesting, aren't they?
Bush won the state by 12% points in 2004, and Obama is right on McCain's heels.
June 2, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, to reply to myself, this:
“It’s a long way until the election but the early indication is that Bob Barr’s presence on
the ballot could be a good sign for whoever ends up as the Democratic nominee,” said
Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “He’s likely to siphon off more voters
who would otherwise be inclined to vote for McCain than he is from Clinton or Obama.”
is music to my ears. (Eyes?)
I saw part of McCain's speech this morning. When he tries to project passion, he appears to be an angry old man. He's also not the most inspiring speaker.
June 2, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, the day I read Barr had announced, I got very very happy.
Heh heh heh!
That spells big trouble for McLame, IMO.
June 2, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Sam Nunn is a good choice for VP but the sheer comedy of he and Obama winning Georgia almost seems worth it.
June 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nunn's too old, he's only a few years younger than McCain.
Henry's the one
June 2, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
How pathetic am I?
I sat and watched several votes of the Libertarian Convention on Memorial Day, rooting for Bob Barr.
Notice how Barr's vanquished opponent didn't blame her defeat on the "national sexist-misogynist conspiracy."
June 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
North Carolina is not a swing state since it was not won by Senator Clinton.
June 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, I think mcbush is in an alternate reality. The obama camp should circulate the vidoe of soon to be VP nominee Webb's senate floor arguments against this travesty to rebut the loon. It was excellent and pointed out the stupidity of the senate declaration. I wonder if there were any mental health records in mcbush's medical records. Any shock therapy in the past. He has lost it. Thank you.
June 2, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Webb's comments on Kyl-Lieberman from September 2007:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/25/sen-webb-blasts-liebermankyl-amendment-this-proposal-is-dick-cheneys-fondest-pipe-dream/
June 2, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
In my opinion Obama should have been on the Senate floor and vote NO.
By the way, where was McCain when the Senate was voting on the GI bill?
June 2, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the major new environmental initiative?
Seems like Mr. Big Bad John McLame is a chickenshit when it comes to facing major votes himself.
June 2, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, but he was set up by reid who at the time was helping out the clintons. Interesting story how he missed the vote and it goes something like this.
They were doing senate arguments on the floor concerning the amendment and they were dragging on and on and on. Obama had a fundraiser scheduled and asked reid if there was any possible chance that it would be called for a vote the next day. Reid told him absolutely not. Interestingly all of the candidates were out of town at the time, except for, surprise, surprise clinton. Mcbush even missed the vote as well.
The next day, reid called it for a vote on short notice, like 20 minutes or something, so that none of the candidates could make the vote other than clinton.
I am pretty sure that mcbush missed the vote as well and it is kind of funny the language that he uses. He "backed" the bs declaration, but he didn't say anything about voting for it. Ahhh, the straight talk express in action.
Thank you.
June 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is listed as "not voting".
Why is his campaign bringing this up, if he didn't vote?
Isn't this sort of like a big ol' softball being tossed right into Obama's wheelhouse?
June 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
He co-sponsored the measure the same day it was voted on. He was campaigning, I believe in New York.
June 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, he co-sponsored it the same day that it was voted on? The straight talk express chugs along. Politics as usual. Go obama.
Thank you.
June 2, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the proof:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:97:./temp/~bdWLVc:@@@P|/bss/d110query.html|
June 2, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, obama should hit him on that point. However, obama didn't vote either, so it doesn't have the same impact. Obama could get a single out of it though.
June 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "State" of Israel?
More like the USS Israel, our land-based air-craft carrier in the eastern Med, maintained at the cost of BILLION$$$ every month. But probably cheaper to maintain than the floating, steel variety...
June 2, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Around three o' clock this afternoon, those dentures will be flying out of the ring again.
June 2, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
Yeah, they will be, if Friday was any indication and I think it was.
June 2, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the past three weeks have been an indication of anything.
June 2, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't get the Friday reference. You mean the "He's got a cold and won't be campaigning" story?
June 2, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whichever day it was Obama hit McLame 3 times on Iraq and inaccuracies.
If not Friday - whenever it was.
June 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is going to be another losing issue for McCain, and another place where Obama can draw a clear difference that Clinton couldn't.
Also, there's a new poll from Gallup that shows most Americans approve of the idea of presidents meeting with the leaders of enemy nations:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107617/Americans-Favor-President-Meeting-US-Enemies.aspx
Americans are sick of the all saber rattling all the time Bush administration. They want grown-ups to deal with international issues in grown-up ways.
June 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link.
June 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
70% of independents back Obama on this issue. Wow! I like those #s for our guy.
June 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where in this poll does it say that 70% of Independents think the President should meet without preconditions, but with preparation?
June 2, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone please remind Mavericky McSame that two Senators missed the vote on KLA. Both of them are the presumptive nominees for their respective parties.
And I love how he's doubling down on the Bush legacy.
June 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bahaha. Truth:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00349
He was uh, for it before he didn't vote for it?
June 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would have been a liability for Obama had McCain voted on the bill.
Who suggests this stuff to him? It's like their foreign policy, nobody is thinking ahead at the ramifications of talking smack.
June 2, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. If Mavericky McSame thought this amendment was so damn important, and critical, he should have taken is wrinkly old butt back to Washington to vote on it.
That's what I'd say, if I were Obama.
(Well, not the wrinkly old butt part).
June 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
O but the wrinkly old butt part is my favorite part!
LOL
June 2, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check the medical records. He might've Botoxed that butt. John Smooth Cheeks McSame!
June 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Campaiging, same as Obama. Recall the vote came up unexpected after it was tabled indefinitely by Reid--which seems like two years ago (but was September 26, 2007).
June 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was in response to Kash's question.
June 2, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Attacking Obama for being weak on national security?
Who da thunk it?
June 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friend, Mavericky McSame is attacking Obama for not voting on a measure that he didn't vote on as well. Apparently he was for the measure, but then decided it wasn't important enough to vote on it.
June 2, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure how not supporting pre-emptive attacks on nations we don't like is being "weak on national security." If it is, that's a weakness I wholeheartedly support.
June 2, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please keep talking about Iraq, Iran, and foreign policy, McFlip-Flop. Considering you shifted positions on everything you've ever stated it makes for great press. Obama can continue to show how you are for the war and don't understand it, and how he is for pulling out and does understand it in all it's details. Just keep talking about it, Mc100years, keep making gaffes. We Obama supporters love it!
Oh, and how did you vote on that GI Bill that could be funded with the equivalent of one week worth of expenses on the war? Oh that's right, you didn't show up. Thanks for ensuring the troops now don't get the benefits that you and yours got after Vietnam and WWII. I guess it's okay only as long as you got the benefits then and not today's soldiers now.
June 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's clear to me the American people want to support our troops as much as we did in WWII. However it's Bush and the Republicans that are doing everything in there power to ensure they are supported as little, as cheaply, as possible while ensuring this war goes on forever.
Support the troops, the pride of the United States, and DO NOT vote for John McCain!
June 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Message from Gallup to McCain [clueless old man]
h/t: Taegan Goodard's Political Wire blog who always seems to get right to the point...
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/06/02/americans_want_next_president_to_meet_with_enemies.html
June 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
These freaking republican pols think americans are stupid. Like churchill said, "to jaw-jaw is always better then to war-war." I just wish that these stupid morons like mcbush would wake the f*ck up.
June 2, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
They really don't get it, do they. I had hoped McSame'd be this out of touch, but I didn't dare expect it. You keep up the good work, Johnny. (How dumb is it to attack your opponent for missing a vote that you also missed? Wow.)
June 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
McFlip Flop.
McBush.
Mc100Years.
Mavericky McSame (my personal favorite).
We've got some fun names for St. John Straight Talkin' Mavericky McBush, don't we?
June 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
All in the criminal employ of Chimpy McWar Co.
June 2, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like Stephhanie Miller's "Grampy McSame."
June 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends!
I support war and more war at every chance I get!
Thank you!
June 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't care who you are, you cannot be held prisoner for 5 years and not have life long effects from that, and not in a good way. His mental stability is such a huge factor. And as for 'my friends', OMG, make him stop.
June 2, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
This underscores why he's afraid to negotiate: he thinks everyone is his friend. And really, who wants to get tough on their friends?
June 2, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
You folks keep thinking the gop play by your silly rules and have shame.
No silly, they have no shame. Get use to these attacks on Obama being weak on national security and keep drinking that kool aid.
Kooks.
June 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get a backbone. Or take your whimpering elsewhere.
June 2, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
GFY, spineless kook.
June 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans are more than welcome to keep lobbing softballs over the plate.
June 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm totally in love with McLame's strategy so far.
June 2, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. If he keeps this up, he may actually call himself "my friend" :)
June 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is the same ole strategy to paint the other candidate weak on national security.
It won the last two times and may make it three in a row.
Dems never learn from their losses.
The key to winning this time was to run the strongest candidate on national security but you drank the kool aid.
June 2, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since you backed Hillary's LOSING campaign, where do you get off casting stones?
June 2, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, it looks we did learn from '04.
We put Howard Dean in charge and we're on track to win this one.
It's not '04 any more.
Bush was not polling at 23% approvals in '04.
It's going to be ok - we're going to win.
June 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. We're not going the "I was for the war before I was against it" route again.
June 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear gotalife:
This is your methodology below. You support this, McCain supports this, and Hillary supported this. It is so unforgivable. See below article quote:
'Several soldiers who have returned from combat zones talk with the American News Project about what they say is the widespread practice of using "drop weapons" to cover up the killing of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.'
June 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
In other words, planting weapons on corpses?
June 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
ooohhhhh. So spineless you can't spell the words out. You afraid your mommie may take away your computer privileges?
I'll stop, it's not nice to pick on the afflicted.
June 2, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wall Street announced today that sales of Kool Aid has dropped dramatically since gotalife started promoting it. The company has decided to rename their product Kook Aid in the hope that it will increase sales by attracting more Republican trolls.
June 2, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What an ass you are.
Obama holds fire, and doesn't bring up any of the various pieces of Clinton baggage, and deludes you into "thinking" she's the best candidate.
Obama welcomes the debate with McSame, and he hasn't hesitated to fire back.
The only kooks are you and others like that old lady from NY, who are bitter, clinging to a lost cause, and pouting like school kids who don't get their way.
June 2, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
She voted yes on that bill .
She is the strongest candidate.
June 2, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Voting yes on that bill was a horrible decision, as that bill is a neocon's dream.
June 2, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Explain the merits of the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, please.
June 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Declaring a branch or segment of one country's military as a terrorist organization is utter stupidity. By the same yardstick we could declare any segment of any country's military a terrorist organization. For the idiots in congress - and there are many - it appeared to be a harmless bit of political showmanship. To those who understood the potential ramifications, it was foolhardy and dangerous at best. Clinton clearly prefers showmanship to sound policy - or she's too stupid to know the difference.
June 2, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
A true CHICKEN HAWK! Popping shit from the safety of its living room. When confronted they scurry away to the safety of the underbrush....
June 2, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are so freaking cute when you're despondent!!!!
Here. Have a cookie.
June 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking some nice lukewarm lemonade and some graham crackers.
That's what they gave us in kindergarten when we got a boo boo.
June 2, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, you morons- as with your failed candidate who like previous hopeless Dem presidential candidates imagined she'd able to out-hawk McSame- still think we have to play by THEIR rules. That game is over.
Shut up and let those who do understand the new rules do their thing.
June 2, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guys, gotalife is no Hillary shill, he's a GOP troll. He barfed up pro-Hillary rhetoric to stir the sh*tpot.
Just don't feed the troll - laugh at him instead. His november surprise will come soon enough ;)
June 2, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll second that...
June 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Dems never learn from their losses"
GOP. Not a Hillary backer. Ya really gotta watch their language.
June 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton is still in it. The supers can switch until the vote on the floor.
The supers should wake up and see Obama is weak on national security if they want to win this time.
June 2, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's not ignoring her lately because she's so strong and untouchable on the issue. It's because she's not the nominee.
June 2, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know "The Dems never learn from their losses".....
June 2, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalife is the sloppiest Republican troll on this site. He/she/it has tipped its hand many times.
June 2, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Friends, I believe this is one of Obama's better responses yet. Gen McPeak is out and about saying McCain is weak on Nat's security which I like because if you take NS of the table - Obama wins because then it is the economy stupid and dems are on top with that issue.
More Excellent News for McCain (in addition to that lovely lovely NC poll - a republican poll that shows McCain in trouble and Obama closing the gap among --wait for it --- white voters.
http://lombardoconsultinggroup.com/wordpress/2008/06/02/mccains-vulnerabilities-exposed/
June 2, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
{great big shit-eating grin!}
Laters, y'all.
June 2, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
anyone consider that McCain's address was an overt signal in front of AIPAC that we're going to attack Iran?
Last Friday, Charlie Rose had a conversation with Col. H.R. McMaster, a senior Petraeus adviser known for leading a successful counterinsurgency effort in Iraq.
He repeated the assertion that Iran is the key obstacle to success in Iraq.
June 2, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
He repeated the assertion that Iran is the key obstacle to success in Iraq.
The world is not a board of Risk. One cannot "obliterate" Iran. 70 million people, five times the size of Iraq, and which troops, exactly, will be going?
So it will be worthless air strikes that will do nothing but enlarge the targets already painted on the backs of American soldiers.
There is no credible, let alone humane, method of removing the "obstacle" of Iran in military terms. Bombs would soon come to shopping malls near you, and not small ones.
Only the rule of law will solve this problem. And it begins by prosecuting the current criminal enterprise posing as a presidency.
Pax,
M.
June 2, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it's an overt signal we're going to attack Iran, I suggest Obama brand the elephant with that policy. AIPAC may want a 3rd war, I figure there are 2 or 3 hundred million other Americans who do not want a 3rd war.
June 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is exactly what happens when you kick a dog too many times. Just whimpers any time someone lefts a leg. That's ok we won't let the mean man kick you again. We've got a candidate who knows how to bite.
June 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Hillary Clinton are all on the same side when it comes to waging war on Iran. I told you folks: Hillary is the new Lieberman.
Bush's Branded Maverick of The Panderosa's chant:
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
My friends, please come and chant it at all my rallies. Help me to prevent the terrible scourge of peace in our time.
I remain:
Ye Olde Candidate
John Bush McCain.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
June 2, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
you guys are getting trolled pretty badly so far. step back a second and realize who you're trying to talk to. no language of any cogency can dissuade a troll. it doesn't matter how good your arguments or insults are, they just keep feeding off of your attention.
the only way to get them to leave is to ignore them. at all costs. don't encourage his sad existence.
June 2, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interestingly, the front page has a story that Bill is telling people in South Dakota that this is probably his last day campaigning like this - ever.
June 2, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shame McCain missed the GI Bill vote.
The one that would decrease re-enlistment by 16%, although increase recruitment by 16% too (a fact John McCain is particularly keen to omit). Creating a net increase in army personnel.
See the Lieberman vote crap debunked at: http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/06/02/iran.php
June 2, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink