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McCain Campaign Using Hillary's "Commander In Chief" Line To Attack Obama

This seems significant: The McCain campaign, as predicted, is already using Hillary's "commander in chief test" line to attack Obama.

With the general election set to begin, the McCain camp emailed out this now-notorous video of Hillary a few weeks ago putting herself and McCain on the same "commander in chief" plane and saying that all Obama has to bring to the table is "a speech that he gave in 2002"...

I got in touch with McCain's internet guru, Patrick Hynes. He made their strategy on this as clear as you could want.

"Senator Clinton articulated the fundamental difference between John McCain and Barack Obama as well as anyone," Hynes told me.


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This is why I am reluctant to allow Senator Obama to be my Vice President, despite his constant pleas.

Any other time, this would be funny.

Funny? There is nothing funny about the fact that a certain candidate is a secret reverse Muslim vampire.

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Reverse vampire? Can you cook this for me, my parents won't let me use the microwave.

Ok, that made me chuckle. Thanks.

Hillary Clinton LOST with that strategy. McCain is following the same FAILED strategy as Hillary, just like he is following the same failed strategy of George Bush. McCain is going to LOSE.

And that's exactly why she won't be VP.

God I'm watching McCain right now in his speech before the polls start coming in from SD and he just used the Clinton worthy line "pundits and party officials decided Sen. Obama is my political opponent".

I don't know what I would have done if I had to listen to two presidential contenders talking like morons.

I hope you're right about her not being the VP.

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i predicted this would happen.

I think everyone predicted this one. Whether the set of 'everyone' includes Sen. Clinton, I'm hoping to remain blissfully ignorant of.

Don't think this will matter in the end, but, man, Hillary sure did try to screw things up, didn't she?

hillary 1st step towards helping her own cause, is to take the stage right after mccain takes the stage...

Well, if the Republicans want to scuttle the "dream ticket," that's fine by me.

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Alrighty then...it seems Camp McCAAAIIINNN!!! wants to spend the next several months trying to keep Dems divided and pointing fingers at each other. So be it.

Like what, nobody saw the original version?

Or are you saying that saying the same thing over and over and over again and somehow expecting a different result actually works?

I think they'll be running a "change you can Xerox" ad next.

Probably. They will run absolutely everything that they think will get Clinton voters to switch to McCain.

Won't work for any Democrat worth their salt, unless they are clouded by petty ressentiments. Rather, it'll backfire, because it'll remind them of the nefarious tactics that the HRC campaign employed.

But did Clinton provide these ready-made GOP ads for nothing in return? It hardly seems fair. McCain should at least pay off some of her campaign debts, or offer to let her be in his cabinet, or something. Maybe even choose her as a running mate, since he's already lost most of the wingnut vote. Would you vote for a McCain/Hillary ticket?

Damn that's a real winner

Hillary WHO?

we all predicted this, didn't we.
with friends like Hillary...

Sad but inevitable.

Fortunately John McCain is so horrible a candidate that the next five months will make it obvious he's barely capable of passing a spelling test, let alone whatever "Commander in Chief" test Clinton had in mind.

In the long run, her support of that moron is going to cost Clinton more political capital than her attacks on Obama. Much the way David Frum is trying to make people forget the fact that he called Dubya Bush "The Right Man".

Also, as was said, she ain't gonna be VP.

Who needs a Republican opponent when we have Dems like these?

Hillary for VP? No way. Only an idiot would fight a two front war and Obama ain't no idiot.

Yes, and now we are supposed to accept her as VP? Excuse me???

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Well this can't be any more of a surprise to y'all than it is to me - we all knew this was coming.

I hope she's sufficiently ashamed of herself, but damn, why is it that I doubt that so very much?

anyone just head what howard fineman just said on msnbc...they will offer the vp to hillary if they have a her word that she doesnt take the job...and hillary doesnt want obama to pick another woman for vp. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/tpm_siteimages/button_send.gif

It's a trap, I tell ya.

No shit, he needs to pick another woman. Seriously.

Wow. Harold Fineman on MSNBC just said that he has it on the good authority of someone very close to both Clintons that the Clinton camp wants the following:

Obama offers Clinton the Vice Presidency, with the explicit promise from her beforehand that she will refuse it.

What a fucking ego.

Obama offers Clinton the Vice Presidency, with the explicit promise from her beforehand that she will refuse it.

I feel like we could just cut out a step or two by just not offering her the VP slot.

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I think this is silly and I don't think Obama would do that.

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If Obama does offer the veep slot, on condition she agrees to refuse it, I hope that they first get her signed statement-- in blood -- that she won't take it.

Otherwise, I wouldn't put it past her to fake him out and say, on national tv, "I accept."

Legitimize her 2008 run, popular vote, Veep offer and offer lukewarm support going forward, with the odd 'fiery' speech here and there of course.
All in keeping her sites on 2012.
Only thing that can counter this cynically driven blackmailing, is a deluge of HRC SDs migrating to Obama.

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And then she challenges him to a boxing match, if Obama doesn't go down in the third round, she'll change her mind and accept the VP offer.

I think we made a terrible mistake. I am sorry for having supported Senator Obama all the way. I wish that we could go back and nominate Hillary Clinton instead because you will not find any tapes of Senator Obama disparaging Senator Clinton in such a fashion. Of course that would mean that he has also not played dirty enough to be Hillary's VP.

Sorry John McCain. Tonight is our night. Choke on your divisive strategies.

Amen, bro!

Those comments were what finally turned me on to the real Hillary Clinton and made me start to donate as much as I could to Obama.

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Had the same effect on me.

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Yep ... yep ... yep ... There are some lines that shouldn't be crossed in a primary, and Hillary crossed one with this. I wonder how many supporters she lost when she whipped this one out?

grandpa is on tv!

Who is that, Senator McCain's great grandson?

you took the words out of my mouth. But sadly, this night isnt about him and his speech will only serve to give the pundits needed time to go to the bathroom.

McCain's new message:

Good Change vs. Bad Change

Obama should have a field day with that.

What's with that forced grin?

McCain always pauses and gives that little simpering self-satisfied smirk after he delivers what he believes to be some good lines. Sometimes he does it at the most inappropriate of times. If you can find the video of his recent speech before AIPAC you will see what I mean. He made some dire remarks about the Iranian President wanting to launch a new Holocaust against Israel, and then McCain paused and showed his patented self-satisfied little smirk. It said; boy did I not just get off a great line. He is down right creepy.


Whuzzat? Summun gonna change McSame's daiper? Ack! Gotta wanna be there to see dat! Izzat possible? Guess it Depends (tm).

At this particular time, I think this ad is more damaging to Hillary than it is to Obama.

Interesting, I was just thinking the same.

Up thread post, relevant here:

Won't work for any Democrat worth their salt, unless they are clouded by petty ressentiments. Rather, it'll backfire, because it'll remind them of the nefarious tactics that the HRC campaign employed

Ummm...should someone remind Sen. McCain about the Nebraska Caucus next week?

Well, McCain got his Hillary voter pander out of the way quickly.

Any Hillary supporters who are buying this bull McCain is shoveling right now should have their heads examined.

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God, McCain is such an idiot - he sounds horrible, he's stiff as a board, his smile is phony, and he is a god-awful teleprompter reader. And he blinks about a thousand times a second. And it's like his facial expressions are totally cued - there's absolutely nothing real or authentic about him. Ugh...

Wow, what an absolutely wretched speech/performance by McCain. His entire delivery and body language is awful. Let alone the content.

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McCain is a joke. What an awful speech.

Howard Fineman was just on MSNBC floating the idea that Obama might ask Clinton to be his running mate as long as she guarantees that she declines. With the way she has run her campaign, I wouldn't trust any pledge from Hillary.

"A Leader We Can Believe In" is McCain's slogan?

Seriously?

I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

They're phoning it in.

I can't stress how much McCain reminds me of my Dad just when his dementia was setting in. I know he's reading off a prompter, but he doesn't even look like he really understands what he's even saying.

Heh. McCain's big speech is in front of three groups of about six rows of seats. Maybe a couple hundred at best.

Reminds me of his acceptance speech, which was seemingly in front of about fifty people, just kind of standing around. At least this time, though, he's not flanked by a half dozen ancient and tired-looking Senators. I guess that means he's getting better at this whole "don't look pathetic" thing.

haha, that was hilarious.

"Let's surround him with a dozen corpses so he won't look so old..."

mccain should never use the word "elder"

I need to sleep. Great Grand Pa is still talking

how many people are in that room? a few hundred?

Just caught a few seconds of McCain's speech. He's trying to be inspirational, and it's working. Which is to say, my kids have been inspired to look under their beds tonight to make sure Senator McCain isn't there.

Memo to McCain's peeps: stick to radio.

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LOL!

Goddess keep me on this side of that wicked tongue!

You're not a Penguins fan, are you? : )

I'm hoping Obama customizes tonight's talking points so he can smack this McCain speech around like a tetherball. Maybe there is some entertainment to be had tonight.

Funniest comment on thread. Again.

Post a blog, dude!

"A Leader We Can Believe In"...WTF

Is this the first time he's had that backdrop?

He just said "support our retirees."

Shouldn't he have added "except for our veterans"?



He just said "support our retirees."

He be talkin bout his childrens!

Does Hillary (or anyone) STILL think this primary has been good for the Democratic party???

"Does Hillary (or anyone) STILL think this primary has been good for the Democratic party???"

Rhetorical question, I know, but I'm going to play devil's advocate and say it was a good thing.

McCain's final share of the popular vote is written in stone. The long Democratic primary has kept his support artificially inflated, which will make the drop seem that much faster.

By September, this race will be Obama versus the Dogcatcher. By October, McCain won't even be that.

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Does Hillary (or anyone) STILL think this primary has been good for the Democratic party???

Yes, I think so.

The Democratic primary horserace has yielded a lot of new voters.  Turnouts and new registrations have been record-breaking.

As for November, McSame doesn't stand a chance (IMO).  The anti-Republican tsunami that's coming cannot be withstood.

That's why I do not begrudge Hillary her choice to remain in the race until all the primaries are over.  And satying in the race means putting a brave face on an obviously lost cause.  For her, the denial is feigned; for her supporters, though, the denial is real.

Once the dust has settled, Hillary can mend almost all of the rift she's torn in the Democratic fabric.  I predict that will happen.  She will become an enthusiastic Obama supporter, and her followers will come around, too.  And, thanks to her staying in the race, there will be plenty of them.

Me?  I'm an Obama supporter and contributor.  Woulda been just fine with Hillary as the nominee (or Edwards or Dodd for that matter), but the degree of Hillary's feckless pandering and triangulating is rather discouraging.  Yeah, Obama does that too, somewhat, but not nearly as much.

I guess it depends if you're asking the 17,000,000 people that voted for Hillary or the Obama echo chamber at TPM.

McCain says he is proud to call Clinton his friend. Will she refute her previous statement tonight? Will she say Obama is ready to be President on the same night when McCain is reaching out overtly to her supporters?

awesome. i love republican booing.

the prompted boos were oh so sad

Hillary has done a lot of ground work for old John.

Might be that she's looking down the road at taking him on in 4 years.

Well, if that's her plan it isn't going to work.

He just said "support our retirees."

He left out "except for our veterans."

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This is a great speech. The Democrats should replay it as a campaign ad.

is this andy rooney?

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What???

Andy Rooney is pretty lively, expressive, sharp, intelligent, witty...

Nothing like Andy Rooney!!

This stuff McCain's pushing, in New Orleans no less, about how we should be able to deal with catastrophes is so fucking absurd.

What was McCain doing as New Orleans was drowning? I'll tell you: He was eating his birthday cake with George Bush, and a big ol' grin on his face.

its a fact, AGE will play a role in this election more than ever. When BO is standing next to McCain, BO will get an automatic 2-3% points bump in the polls.

The whole country is now going to learn what we junkies already know: that McCain is a terrrrrrrible speaker. He looks and acts every day of his age when he's giving a speech. He will have to do a hundred times better in debates to even have a prayer.

He's fallen so far so fast, I actually think Huckabee would help him.

I'm telling you...that man is in the early stages of dementia.

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I agree, all partisanship aside. A few months ago I saw him on a morning show and the pundit threw him a softball no brainer question and he just sat there dumbstruck. A few years ago he would have hit it out of the park.

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McCain's giving his speech now. His campaign slogan posted on the wall is: "A Leader We Can Believe In."

And the speech is even more pathetic than the campaign slogan.

God, I really haven't watched a McCain speech. This is really awful. He weird smile at inappropriate times is just... well, creepy and awkward.

...dementia...

Yes, he is adopting the time-tested "you kids get offa my lawn!" campaign strategery.

I just poured a bourbon...

A TOAST! To Clinton and McCain, may they enjoy years of future service in the senate!

McLame the McSame as McBush is currently delivering the worst speech ever. Oy....At least the MSM is getting this over with before the main event later tonight.

Well, this clinches it, no VP cookie for HIllary.

Obama/Webb '08

Except Webb has still not come out and endorsed Obama. Who knows why but it is very disappointing.

He's like the old man that volunteers to read to kids at Barnes and Noble

Or greets people at Wal-Mart.

Hey, don't make fun of Norman

Norman's a good guy

Legend has it that a young John McCain suggested William M. Meredith for Sec. of the Treasury at Zachary Taylor's inauguration party.

DEEP THOUGHT: Why do people never faint at McCain's rallies?

Because they are already dead.

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LOL!!

Oh, they're chanting "John McCain." I thought they were saying "Dropkick." That chanting section sucks ass.

They should be chanting Ye Olde Candidate's favorite line:

More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!

The Republican party needs a youth infusion.

My cable is wonky, so I'm listening on NPR, and you can literally hear him reading the teleprompter...and he's so bad at it!

Anyone else in NYC having cable issues?

he is. I see it on teevee.

Also all the winks and grimaces. WTF?

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you can literally hear him reading the teleprompter

Really? I heard crickets on walkers.

OMG! McCain is an ass

McCain better hurry up cause he may get bump at the top of the hour for Hillary.

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Did he just say that he "kept quiet" about Iraq when he knew what to do because of politics????

What????

It's a simple fact Obama is inexperienced and unqualified to be commander in chief. His superdelegates and his cult following don't care about his incompetence but sensible Amerian voters do. Obama will crash and burn in November on his own lack of qualifications. He stole the nomination with the hijacked MI delegates and he will implode in November.

Sen. Clinton should not be VP and allow the crushing defeat of the Democratic Party with the unqualified cult leader Obama.

LMAO! Wow, you do not even know the difference between the word "fact" and "opinion". How very typically Republican of you!

Not all Billary supporters are morons, by any means.

But any Billary supporter who cloak their argument in "Obama is inexperienced!" are clearly racist shithead without the guts to admit it, because Obama has far more experience on the national and international scene than Bill Clinton did when elected.

You're transparent. You're idiotic racists, and nobody is fooled. Give up. Go home.

"because Obama has far more experience on the national and international scene than Bill Clinton did when elected."

LOL, so "inexperienced" is now a racist code word. I guess you can define "experience" and "national and international scene" however you want, but honestly I think you should stick between comparisons between Hillary and Obama, because your statement is a f*cking joke.

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It's a simple fact Obama is inexperienced and unqualified to be commander in chief...Obama will crash and burn in November on his own lack of qualifications.

And when he doesn't crash and burn in November and wins the election and becomes our next president, you will jump from the top of a tall building and do a lovely swan dive into the asphalt below. It's a fact. It's indisputable. Don't even try to challenge it.

And if/when he does lose in November, you all will blame Hillary. Now that is a FACT!

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It is very, very difficult; but I am doing it. I am listening to McCain read his speech tonight.

What is wrong with him? Public speaking skills he has not. Am I the only one who notices this?? I am sooo tremendously buffled: there are lots of people in site cheering up, sounding and looking excited...

What is exciting about this presentation?? He is not even a good reader; the teleprompter must be set a bit too fast, he keeps stumbling over his words...

Then them people cheer again, and he smiles and... This task is really difficult and I don't think I can handle it anymore; there, channel changed! :-)

Much better! That man is too dull!

Past it.

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You know what I think?

That crowd? Them people were planted.

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That crowd? Them people were planted.

And somebody forgot to water 'em.

I cannot wait until the debates.

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The more he contrasts himself with Obama, the better Obama looks.

Thanks, Hill!

Shorter McCain: Obama's views and aspired policies are all what's wrong with America.


I'm just guessing, really out on a limb here, but I am thinking Obama's crowd at his speech is going to be a little more enthusiastic than this crowd of McCain's.

They had a zombified quality. Fer sure.

They wrote that laugh into his speech.

"That's not (laugh) change we can believe in"

He makes Nixon look charismatic.

*McCain squints at the teleprompter* "Ha...ha?"

They wrote that laugh into his speech.

"That's not (laugh) change we can believe in"

I actually think you are right about that.

He has given that line at least four times that I've noticed, and each time included the same forced laugh.

What was the headline when McCain released some of his medical records, or some pundit stated it: "It seems 71 is the new 30. Then that must make dead the new 50." that's such a funny line.

That was either Stewart or Colbert that said that. I forget which.

Did he just give the ol' double point??

Way to say "Change We Can Believe In" so people realize who you plagiarized with your new slogan.

Clinton gave him a list of ready made clips to beat him with. Hate to say it - but it is the truth. But this divides the Dems. Don't let it happen.

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That's all they've got, trying to divide the Dems...

I'll say it again:

LANDSLIDE!!!

The debates will be very ugly!


Yeah. Saw a precursor of it tonight - all the acid, the grimaces, the grinning and winking. Talk about a bizarro candidate.

akj;slhfffffffffffffffffffffffffalllllhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sorry, fell asleep watching McCain's speech

I so hope the nets all pull away when the SD polls close. Please, please, please....

McCain always pauses and gives that little simpering self-satisfied smirk after he delivers what he believes to be some good lines. Sometimes he does it at the most inappropriate of times. If you can find the video of his recent speech before AIPAC you will see what I mean. He made some dire remarks about the Iranian President wanting to launch a new Holocaust against Israel, and then McCain paused and showed his patented self-satisfied little smirk. It said; boy did I not just get off a great line. He is down right creepy.

Nixon was charismatic. 'I am not a crook' takes a lot of charisma to say with a straight face. The only sort of face Nixon ever had.

Yes!!!!!! OBAMA!

They're doing it!!

Bye bye McCain!

OBAMA's got it!

MSNBC is calling Sen Obama the presumptive nominee!

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OK - they just called it for Obama - HE IS THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!! My first glass of champagne coming up!!!! God, I'm beside myself - and they cut into McCain's speech to boot - excellent!!!! ;D

Shorter Olbermann: "We interrupt the tired, forced, absurd speech to announce that Barack Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee for President."

Wooooooooooo!

MSNBC and CNN leave the doddering old man

But not FOX

MSNBC and CNN broke dumped McCain, LOL

I'd say that, counting me, about 77,002,749,025 people predicted that McCain's first anti-Obama ads would feature Hillary Clinton.

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Yup!!!

Kudos to all of you who could listen to McCain, I had to hit mute.

CNN breaks to a bar showing Olbermann on every television!!

How great was it that MSNBC and CNN dumped McCain's speech - great politics on Obama's part..lol

That stiffness that he's showing may be Viagra residue. We'd have to ask Cindy.

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OMG, Tweety is waxing poetic - but it's strangely touching and I think he's really moved by the historic nature of this nomination. I have tears in my eyes watching him and Keith right now.

Aye. And they cut into McPastIt's speech, and they do not appear to be returning!

McCain got dump, ROFL

McCain must be thinking, "Well, at least Cindy presides over a beer distributorship.Can always take up drinking."

Tom Brokenjaw.

jeeprs

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As someone mentioned earlier, McCain in his speech tonight stated that "pundits and party officials decided Sen. Obama is my political opponent". He said this while heaping much praise on Hillary in an obvious appeal directed toward her disaffected supporters. A clever and cynical attempt to exploit a fresh and festering wound.

This disaffection was instilled, enflamed, and maintained in Hillary's supporters by Hillary herself. And only Hillary can heal it and bring her supporters back in line with the party's objectives.

A tremendous amount of responsibility now lies on her shoulders. How she discharges it may very well determine the course of our country.

"As someone mentioned earlier, McCain in his speech tonight stated that "pundits and party officials decided Sen. Obama is my political opponent"."

Not to a stray too far from the main part of your commentary Craig, but when I first saw McCain say that - I immediately thought that Obama should answer with: "..a bored republican electorate and less than stellar candidates in the republican primary decided Sen. McCain as my political opponent months ago"

Something tells me that McCain exploiting Hillary Clinton's image and words will do more to unify the democrats than anything Obama could ever do.

If that's McSame's best, then Obama can begin rehearsing the oath of office.

Obama should be embarrassed about losing South Dakota...

why?

But he's not.


I am massively convinced it won't happen, but by some "known unknown" (d.rumsfeld) John McCain became President I shudder to think what would happen to this country. JohnMcCain is simply not mentally fit for anything near the presidency. The ravages of old age are visibly escalating and the man can't seem to string a simple declarative sentence together without a teleprompter. to wit the recent speech he gave lapsing into 4 full minutes of silence when it malfunctioned. His wife is an absolute horror having stolen drugs from the poor at a charity function, and who now makes the talkshow tours touting how nobly she handled her addiction.

Thank God that Destiny selected Barack Obama at this very time when he is so sorely needed.

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His [McSame's] wife is an absolute horror having stolen drugs from the poor ...

Neutralino addiction.

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