McCain Campaign: Obama's Public Finance Decision "All About Money"
On a conference call just now with reporters, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds and campaign general counsel Trevor Potter sought to hold Obama to his promise of a year ago to "aggressively pursue" negotiations with the eventual Republican nominee to both opt into public finance.
"This decision by the Obama campaign was all about money," said Bounds. "And the arguments that they are making after the fact are only an attempt to legitimize a decision that was pre-determined and obviously made for other political reasons."
Instead of negotiations, according to Potter, there was a 45-minute meeting between himself and chief Obama counsel Bob Bauer, which was pre-scheduled to discuss other matters at the end of the primary season, during which the subject of public financing came up only briefly -- and it was clear that Bauer was looking at opting out.
"Bob stated that the Obama campaign hadn't decided what they were going to do yet, and were thinking about it," Potter said. "He made a number of points, all of which suggested that there were problems with the system, or it was broken, or it wasn't necessary."
"There was no aggressive pursuit of negotiations with the McCain campaign," Potter later added. "There was no pursuit, period, of negotiations with the McCain campaign."
Here's the audio from the call:
















Good luck with that gramps. The public doesn't give a damn about this, nor should they. Obama is doing the right thing and you can be sure that grandpa bombs away would be doing the same if he could.
Now when are the media going to cover the FISA clusterfuck? Oh wait, they won't because it's too hard for them to understand and it isn't about the horse race.
June 19, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think the conservatives (fiscal conservatives, especially) of the country would be happy Obama is opting out of public finance. Their tax dollars won't be paying for his campaign!
June 19, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
All about money like when you used the promise of public financing as collateral against the loan you used to revive your campaign?
Obama's concerns were absolutely justified, and McCain hasn't even challenged that.
Give it up McCain, you can't win on the issues, and you can't win on this.
June 19, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares what they think this is true public financing, John McSame wishes he could raise money like this! I intend to contribute the maximum today. Thanks John McSame for making me open up my wallet yet again to Barack Obama.
June 19, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If McCain were the one raising money like this, he'd have opted out, too. He's right - it's about money. But it's about our money - the money of the folks actually voting, not the special interests. Wake up, John - it's the 21st century campaign.
June 19, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep it's about money, and finally the Dems will have more. It is the great thing about Obama that he gets lots of money from lots of people instead of big oil, tobacco, drug, and military contractors. Finally real people will get in the game ... and move this democracy out of the corporations and back to the real people.
June 20, 2008 12:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain needs to quit whining. If he had not lived and fought during the Civil War, he would have embraced the new technology and used it for his campaign. I suggest grandpa Munster hitch a horse and ride back to Tombstone, AZ where he came from.
June 19, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Granpa Munster. That's a good one. Hope it has traction!
June 19, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know what really makes them insane? They expect Democrats to be principled losers while they get to be unprincipled winners. This cycle isn't following that model so their heads are exploding.
June 19, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously - McCain lecturing Obama about campaign money is as hypocritical as anything else he has attacked Obama on. This is from the man who gamed the system for a loan, is likely breaking the law with every $ he spends before the convention and continues to exploit a loop-hole to use his wife's plane. People in glass houses and all...
However, he is right -it is all about the money and who cares. If McCain was able to put together the kind of fundraising machine that Obama has - you bet your ass he would be opting out of public financing. This is a bunch of sour grapes and no one cares but McCain & the media.
June 19, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is also the cad that left his crippled and suffering wife for the rich young wife. It's hard for him to have any credibility when he says "its all about the money."
June 19, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
You beat me to that one.
I don't think the general public will miss it.
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June 19, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like the Newt bidding tata to his cancer-ridden wife. All the Repugs have a character flaw: Blame everybody else and whine. Message: Buzz off Granpa Munster.
June 19, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cash Rules Everything Around McCain
C.R.E.A.M. Get The Money
Dolla Dolla Bill Y'all
June 19, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes yes y'all - to the bill y'all - wanna wanna wanna be fresh y'all...
June 19, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is really surprising the excuses being made for a bald-faced Obama lie. He's simply going with more money because it gives him perceived advantage and to hell with being honest and keeping his word. Problem is, he outspent Clinton, often by 4-5x in some states, and still lost in those states spectacularly. Thus, he'll still lose and is only adding to his growing list of lies, mistatements, and omissions. The only good thing from this is that our public money is not going to be used for his losing campaign!
June 19, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really need to climb out of that rabbit-hole, Matthew. It's almost getting sad at this point.
June 19, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
give him a break. he probably needs the mcsame brownie points to get that cool decoder ring from the mcsame campaign website
and when you really think about it, shouldn't we have pity on people who's lives are so hollow and sad that their only achievement is measured in imaginary points awarded for disrupting intelligent conversations on blogs ???
June 23, 2008 3:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Heh, even Josh knows about your troll act, you freak.
The funny thing is, you've really exposed yourself as nothing but a rethuglitroll on par with the likes of rstephen or gotalife. Even when your stated candidate was making her run for the roses, the only way you could frame any of your lame arguments was to diss Obama.
You're not a bitter-ender. You never were a Dem to begin with, and now you're making that perfectly clear with statements such as these at this point in time.
June 19, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. Deciding to let the people fund his campaign is certainly sleazier than BREAKING the campaign finance LAWS!
June 20, 2008 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The financing decision was all about money?
...What else would it be about?
I wonder if there's a more effective way they could have expressed that :|
June 19, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol - thanks this was exactly my thought - along with "McCain's getting pretty masterful at stating the obvious" . . .
June 20, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR MCCAIN!!!
June 19, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is squirming out of a pledge - when he made it he used language that was intended to convince people that he was "above it all", was going to show us all how clean politics are done and that all he needed was a willing Republican (and, at that time, the long shot nomination - , do you think he made the pledge to get some attention and show up Hillary? - just asking).
I know, his pledge wasn't really a pledge, it had some weasel words. But O people don't accept weasel words. They don't accept Hillary weasel words or McCain weasel words, so why do they rationalize and get all defensive and protective about O's?
Anyway, O is just another Chicago politcian who plays the game better than most. Nothing really new under the sun. I'm voting for him because he's not McCain and even though I want to like McCain, I can't - he makes it impossible. This flip flop by Obama on financing was heralded months ago. He's no revelation, just a politician.
June 19, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know that O had any idea how much Internet fundraising clout he would have. It was unprecedented in a big way. Anyway, the money comes from a much, much broader and righteously pissed-off electorate who want Repugs out of office not matter who made what pledge. This is realpolitic, and there is no pussyfooting around this time.
June 19, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ya know, if you think about it, he can be a Chicago politician who plays the game better than most, or he can be just another Chicago politican, but he can't really be both. TUnless, of course, you're saying all Chicago politicians play the game better than most other polticians from elsewhere.
June 19, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, duh!
:-P
June 19, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy, he sure whines a lot for a he-man war hero. Indeed, this has to be the whinniest bunch of Republicans since the days of Richard Nixon's public pity parties.
June 19, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
McStain's whining is all about the no money.
June 19, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
what kind of absurdity do you adhere to?
June 19, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's "all about the money".
Well, yeah.
That's why it's called campaign finance and not campaign waterpolo.
June 19, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama!
Don't take any BS from this whiny flip-flopper. I have to admit that I think McWar might actually have another good career in acting since we all know he'll lose.
Be gone all man! Hope to never see your flip-flopping a$$ ever again. Please take your phoney ice-queen with you.
Obama '08
June 19, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amazing, the same people who are complaining about welfare and food stamps, are now complaining that the Black man won't play the handount game.
June 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
LIZ SIDOTI, the AP writer who "slammed" Obama today for opting out of public financing, is none other than the reporter who presented McCain w/a box of his favorite donuts and made his coffee for him at an press event April.
Dana Milbank of WaPo wrote at the time:
McCain's moderators, the AP's Ron Fournier and Liz Sidoti, greeted McCain with a box of Dunkin' Donuts. "We spend quite a bit of time with you on the back of the Straight Talk Express asking you questions, and what we've decided to do today was invite everyone else along on the ride," Sidoti explained. "We even brought you your favorite treat."
McCain opened the offering. "Oh, yes, with sprinkles!" he said.
Sidoti passed him a cup. "A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar," she said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402633_pf.html
If this doesn't cohere with the known fact that McCain's base is the MSM--including Bumiller of NYT--I really don't know what does.
June 19, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it kind of weird that McCain has two guys named Trevor and Tucker doing a conference call? That sounds like an old British music hall comedy team.
June 19, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Black Man has too much money !!! Film at 11 !!!
June 19, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well this thread certainly confirms it.
It's not just Obama. All his supporters a hypocrites too.
Obama's a liar. But it's OK because he's your liar.
Clinton is looking better every day.
June 19, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
And she just directed her donors to throw their support behind Obama.
She's a self-loathing hypocrite, too!
June 20, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Trolls back Grampy McSame.
Hilarious!
June 19, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the welfare analogy! Good one...
June 20, 2008 12:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Update: Video of AP hack (er, writer) Liz Sidoti presenting McSame with donuts in April--
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/ap-scribe-who-s.html
June 20, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
i don't understand why the conservatives are crying foul. obama is not using "dirty" money. not sure why grandpa munster is complaining. the playing field is now leveled.
June 20, 2008 12:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Obama is opting out of public financing to take public money -- directly from American citizens.
Why is the MSM making such a big deal about this? Are they pissed that they can no longer cover for the neo-cons? That a black man with a funny name will overthrow their precious entitlements?
June 20, 2008 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Most voters are opposed to public financing in the first place. Only about 10% of taxpayers check the box on their return that designates money for the elections fund. And if giving 25 or 50 bucks to a candidate isn't public financing, I don't know what it. McCain screwed himself and now he wants Obama to screw himself too.
June 20, 2008 7:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know who they think they are fooling. Both candidates made the exact same decision. They each decided to do the thing that gets them the most money. The only mistake I see here is that according to the reports I have read Mr. Obama had previously said he was going to do something else. I think he never antisipated the amount of money he has been able to raise. So what, he changed his mind. Money is a major factor in an election. He would have been stupid not to change his mind. The insulting thing is that both candidates think they can convince us that they did it for some greater good. How stupid do they think we are?
June 20, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
People do not want to get into the weeds of campaign financing. Flip flops work as a gotcha tactic under two conditions.
First for McBush to call out 0bama for being a flip flopper he has to be pure on that issue and he has many more flip flops than Obama. McBush made it even harder for himself when the same week his campaign was trying to call Obama a flip flopper he flip flopped on offshore drilling. 0bama has several McBush flip flops to make issues if McBush wants to play that game. If If anything in 2004 B ush did not flip flop on any major issue.
Second once you flip flop on an issue you have to give a good reason and it cannot be too big an issue. Kerry was killed by his flip flop on the Iraq bill because he never explained it well. The same way Hillary was killed on her Iraq vote flip flop because she tried to say it was a vote for diplomacy. McBush and Obama have both been good at explaining their flip flops clearly and concisely because people don't really care that much if a candidate does change their positions they care that they are trying to say they did not change their positions even though they did.
June 22, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't realize what a scam public financing was until I looked at the details.
1. Public financing only kicks in after the conventions are over for each party. This alone killed Kerry's candidacy because he had an 3 months to campaign with the same amount of money B_ush had to spend in 2 months. Meanwhile in August when Kerry was cash strapped that's when he was swift boated. The DNC moved back it's convention but the RNC still has less time to use the same amount of money if 0bama accepted public financing.
2. The RNC+John McBush will end up having more money than the DNC+Obama to spend on the presidential election because the RNC will undoubtedly get much more PAC and lobbyist money that do not have the constraints of the $2,300 per person limit. It is also BS that the RNC cannot coordinate with McBush is just a pure fairy tail.
3. The only real "advantage" that 0bama will have is control of his money after the last week in August when the convention is over. Since the RNC always has their convention after the DNC they have a built in advantage already.
All this shows is that the public financing system is broken. This presidential campaign is going to last a total about 18 months and only 2 months are even affected by public financing. If McBush was really only relying on public financing he would not be continually having fund raisers to set up his organization for the general. The fact is every other campaign in the past used public financing because they thought it did not matter but in 2004 we saw what happened to Kerry.
June 22, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
there is also the case where Obama recommended that somebody rent an apartment at Meadowbrook estates
there was NO meadow
there was NO brook
and it didn't really look like an estate
ROTFLMAO
June 23, 2008 3:14 AM | Reply | Permalink