McCain Distances Himself From Top Adviser's Claim That Terror Attack Would Help McCain
John McCain is rapidly distancing himself from a claim by senior adviser Charlie Black that a terror attack on the United States would help McCain in political terms.
Here's McCain at a presser today, responding to a question about his top adviser, who rather bluntly told Fortune magazine that the assassination of Benazir Bhutto "helped" McCain and added that a terror attack on U.S. soil "would be a big advantage" to McCain...
"I strenuously disagree," McCain said.
The funny thing about this is that while this is obviously a hideously tasteless gaffe for McCain's top adviser to make, the notion that a terror attack would help Republicans is something that's seen as perfectly routine when pundits argue it.
This odious argument somehow isn't seen as crude or distasteful when "disinterested" observers say it, which is bizarre, even putting aside the fact that it's probably outright wrong, given the multiple polls finding that the GOP's advantage on national security has long since evaporated.















I hope he gets pressed hard on this. It shows how Republicans plan on using fear to win.
June 23, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What an idiot Black is! Now we can say it, when necessary, because the cat is out of the bag.
We always knew these guys counted on terror to elect them ever since 9.11. But this fool said it!
YESSSSSSS. What an unpatriotic piece of garbage.
June 23, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
it really does seem like an accidental revealing of the game plan
June 23, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, more like an idiot stating an obvious fact. Just like casulties and bombings would help Obama's numbers...doesn't mean he wants it to happen...just a fact of the numbers.
June 23, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
forgot the in Iraq part.
June 23, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Creepy.
June 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sarge get over yourself. Be an American.
June 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't disagree with you but don't you have to have a screw loose to say it?
June 23, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
If your an advisor to a campaign and speaker to a reporter?...Yes.
June 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Memo
To: My Friends in the Media
From: John McCain
Re: Charlie Black
Who the heck is Charlie Black?
All Aboard The Straight Talk Express!
June 23, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have to make it clear to McCain and the rest of the Republicans that terrorist attacks on or from this country, like a bombing campaign against Iran are election losing propositions.
June 23, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Won't be hard to communicate, they're probably tapping our phones and reading our mail already.
June 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, grow up. They definitely will if you keep working to get McCane in office.
June 23, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course the Republicans rely on keep the voters too scared to think for their selves.
What do you think the Tom Ridge Color Swatches Cabaret was all about.
I still have my supply of Duct tape and Visquine sheets. Thanks to Tom Ridge we are feeling very safe and secure here at Camp Paranoia.
June 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
edit: rely on keeping
June 23, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
These idiots are so delusional as to think that if, say Bush bombed Iran, people would rally around McCain. Kristol Was fantasizing about it on Fox news Sunday. Probably just delusional daydreaming on his part but sadly I wouldn't put it past Bush to bomb Iran before he leaves office, possibly before the election. The question is just weather or not him and his clique see how bad of an idea it really is.
But seriously, a bombing campaign would be the end of the republicans for good. Or at least a long-ass time.
June 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain must immediateley denounce and reject this guy and sever all ties. IMMEDIATELY!
Black is a SENIOR ADVISER, not some loosely affiliated supporter. Let's see if the media treats McCain the way they would Obama if a similarly ranked adviser of his had said it.
June 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure they'll be all over it just like those rape "jokes" or the John Hagee dust up.
June 23, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Idiotic question in the first place. Just like it's absurd for pundits to opine that a terrorist attack would help McCain (which I disagree with), it's also a tasteless question to ask. Then when the advisor loses his mind and actually answers it, the media jumps all over him. The whole thing is stupid.
btw -- I also must laugh if Black thinks that Bhutto's assassination helped McCain. If they actually believe that, it helps explain why their campaign is a bit of a mess: They don't have a clue. Hope they keep up the good work!
June 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering that the Madrid bombings in 2004 helped kicked the conservative government out and the bin laden tape in November, 2004 didn't help Kerry, it's a reasonable question to ask. You just don't expect him to answer so honestly.
June 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Spanish government willfully misled the public, which sealed their fate. And I don't believe for a second the Bin Laden tape affected the election in 2004. I worked my butt off for Kerry, but he never really had much of a shot at pulling it out.
June 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't discount the possibility that Bhutto's assassination helped McCain. Recall that last year, McCain was given up for dead in the GOP primaries, with Giuliani the front-runner and Mitt Romney (in part because he was largely self-financed) seen as the most obvious anti-Rudy challenger. Recall that McCain needed loans to stay afloat, and he indeed opted in-without-opting in
Arguably McCain won more because the others lost, but the perception among Republicans that McCain is strong on foreign policy certainly helped him survive, and the Bhutto assassination in December brought foreign policy more to the forefront of the campaign.
June 23, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but at best, that says it helped McCain relative to other Republicans. Even if it's true, a campaign strategist who believes that automatically means it helps in the general election is incompetent. (Granted, that does seem like an accurate description of McCain's campaign staff, but...)
June 23, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh oh. Time to throw another barbecue.
June 23, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, but to keep this guy on as a senior adviser is ridiculous. This is McCain's "out" with Black and he should use it to kick him to the curb and send a strong message. Get out from under his lobbyist ties without having it be an issue.
June 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
mccain knew about this guy along time ago and he is not sincere in his response
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/mccain-to-host-a-new-reality-game-show/
June 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breaking:
Turdblossom declares that Barack Obama is actually a White Anglo Saxon Protestant(WASP) Man, because that is the type that is usually found in Country Clubs.
June 23, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greggie. With a straight face can you seriously take time in your post on your disgust with campaigns AND commentator at sdiscussing qui bono from pre-election terrorist attacks to point out that in your personal opinion the predictions are most likely mistaken?
I'm thrilled that McCain is taking heat for a dumb, RFK-in-June-like comment from his top guy. But as you say, this is standard-order contingency thinking that any campaign manager would be committing professional misconduct not to do (although not talk about in public, at least in this way). And if the campaigns have license to think it through, then commentators certainly are within their mandate to do it.
Again, great that the guy was such a moron about it. But what's with the (I hope) fake innocentce about it?
June 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Terrorism is part of God's plan to drive voters into the McCain promised land!
June 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy if these numbnuts think that a terrorist attack will help the War Party of George W. Bush, they're in deeper doo than I had thought
June 23, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually disagree with Black's assessment. The republicans have had 8 years to do something abotu the 'war on terror' and they have pretty much done very little besides make lots of knee-jerk induced headaches at the airport for travellers. The only think good that the republicans have managed to do over the last 8 years has been to prevent another attack (and I am not entirely sure that isn't just dumb luck). If another one were to occur, they would have basically failed on every account.
I can see where Black would think this would help, especially since McCain's only real advantage is in Nat's Security. However that doesn't mean he is right and I think that people are very suspicious of this kind of stuff coming out of the Repubs these days. Manufacture a war for political purposes??? No - not these guys....
June 23, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
umm....
"The only think good that the republicans " should be - "The only good thing that the republicans..."
Need. Edit. Function.
June 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that sort of like Demi Moore "strenously objecting" in A Few Good Men?
Obama needs to nail him to the wall on this. Enough of this fearmongering crap.
June 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing Black's comment was missing was specific targets. $5 says that if he kept on talking, he would've mentioned Ohio, Penn., Florida, and Michigan as possible targets. Since they're trying to scare up votes, might as well make the electoral math count. Idiots...
June 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real question, as Greg suggests, is whether the public would rally round the flag, as ususal, or ditch the republiks wholesale. This time, for once, I think the answer is that voters would exile the rethugs once and for all, since another attack, especially on our soil, would effectively destroy the only semi-lucid argument in favor of republiks at this point - no foreign attacks on US soil since 9/11 (and anthrax?).
But we won't have to speculate much longer, since I fully expect Bush-McCain to do something totally provocative just prior to the election - whether it's blowing up Iran or a continental US target. The neocon-petroleum-military-crony complex simply has too much invested in Iraq and the rest of the neighborhood to just let the dems get elected and disassemble their little project without a fight.
June 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
"But we won't have to speculate much longer, since I fully expect Bush-McCain to do something totally provocative just prior to the election - whether it's blowing up Iran or a continental US target. The neocon-petroleum-military-crony complex simply has too much invested in Iraq and the rest of the neighborhood to just let the dems get elected and disassemble their little project without a fight."
...and speculators in the "Tin Foil Hat" market go wild!
June 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wouldn't be the first time McShame betrayed his country
Won't be the last
http://www.usvetdsp.com/gifs/mcaincuban.jpg
June 23, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Make your fortune in the Tin Foil market...I did...find out how...
June 23, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anything you say Corporal Pyle
Fighting soldier from the sky...
Sgt Barry Sadler, Ballad of the green berets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94
June 23, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
So what's FISA if not a capitulation to fearmongering? I can see why they'd keep using the same strategy as long as we keep enabling it to work.
June 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
BREAKING!
WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. Secretary for Homeland Security Michael Chertoff just announced the increasing of the national security threat code to "a deep red, almost black."
Chertoff said the ratcheting up of the alert code was prompted by intelligence chatter indicative of a diminishing chance of a Republican White House after 2009 and of significant Republican losses in Congress.
"Oh, fuck! I think that was the classified part," Chertoff added. "Can I go off the record retroactively?"
June 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
GREG, CAN U DO US A FAVOR AND PUSH THIS???
GOD KNOWS THAT THE MEDIA WOULD GO F-IN BIZZERK IF AXELROD HAD SAID IT!!! come on!!! don't let them get away wiht ANOTHER ONE! the CONTEXT is CLEAR!!!
June 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
He looks like he's losing his bearings.
June 23, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know that a terrorist attack would be good for the Republicans, but I imagine it would be good for Charlie Black. Isn't he on the Saudi payroll?
June 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charlie we are not supposed to be telling our little secrets, remember! Geeze, some guys just cannot keep a secret. The GOP is all about mis-information and lies, remember. Hey, its been working well for the last 8 years now.
June 23, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should hit him on this - I mean McCain goes after his VP vetter for crying out loud.
June 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charlie Black is absolutely correct.
June 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Memo to SFC Wallace: Is that a government computer you're using when you put the logo of the 7th Cav up there? You might want to be a bit more careful. I don't doubt that you serve proudly -- but as a former Marine -- what you're doing makes me wince.
June 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Hillary's referencing to Bobby Kennedy was said to be a dog whistle to her lunatic fringe supporters but McCain gets a pass when his top adviser is hoping for a terrorist attack because it would help John McCain?
I'm telling you, McCain can do no wrong with the press.
June 23, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry Gramps, your campaign is imploding.
June 23, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody notice the band-aids on top of McCain's head during this press conference?
I don't mean to be crude... But I haven't heard anyone mention it and they were very visible.
Has his cancer returned?
June 23, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze- exactly. While some have been busy bashin Obama, Mccain has said many things that the press should have crucified him for. Like for ex: the roevswade statement that he would overturn it and many other gaffes. I think this one is a biggie and he and Black should be held accountable for this. Greg- I urge you to push this story hard. NO MORE FEARMONGERING. sick of it!!!!!!!!!
June 23, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't put it past Bush to "accidentally" let one slip (again) in order to bail out McCain's poll numbers:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/06/terrorist-attack-mccains-miracle.html
June 23, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
If McSame is going to win this election, he will need a land invasion from Viet Nam.
June 24, 2008 7:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Black only "regrets" that what he said was damaging to McSame; he doesn't regret the underlying sentiment, which is just continued evidence that the Repugs are all too happy to play politics with Americans' lives.
June 24, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink