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McCain Campaign Accuses Obama Of Having "A September 10th Mindset"

Aggressively moving to shift the debate away from domestic issues to national security, the McCain campaign hit Obama with some of the most incendiary language of the campaign, accusing Obama on a conference call with reporters moments ago of having a "September 10th mindset."

The latest attack, which has strong echoes of the tactics Bush used against John Kerry four years ago and that Republicans used against Dems in 2006, comes in response to comments Obama made yesterday to ABC News about the attackers of the World Trade Center in 1993.

In the interview, Obama suggested that the failure to try Guantanamo detainees was harming American credibility in the Muslim world, adding that the 1993 attackers had been dealt with in accordance with the Constitution and that "they are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated."

The McCain camp is seizing on the comments as evidence that Obama doesn't understand that such an approach is inadequate to the current war on terror -- even though Obama has repeatedly outlined an aggressive approach to hunting down terrorists.

"Once again, we have seen that Senator Obama is a perfect manifestation of a September 10th mindset," McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann said.

And this is pretty interesting, too: The McCain camp also sought to revive memories of Hillary's attacks on Obama's commander in chief cred, revealing that Hillary's national security criticism is giving McCain ammunition in the general election, as many Hillary critics predicted.

"If Senator Obama did receive that 3 A.M. call, his response would be to call the lawyers in the Justice Department," Scheunemann said.

The "September 10th mindset" attack comes a full four years after the Republicans last used it successfully; it comes nearly seven years after the attacks themselves. And two years ago, this same attack line failed to stave off massive losses for the GOP.

More on this soon.

Late Update: Here's the audio from the call:


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Suggested Obama response: "If John McCain wants to suggest that I don't have a George W. Bush mindset, then he's absolutely right. That's why I'm running against George W. Bush and John McCain."

Excellent response.

Also, Obama should coin the phrase "post-Bush mindset."

I like that.

"If John McCain wants to suggest that I don't have a George W. Bush mindset, then he's absolutely right. That's why I'm running against George W. Bush and John McCain."

Absolutely! This is an opportunity for Obama to agree with McCain that he does indeed have a 9/10 mindset -- if that means remaining faithful to the Constitution, being honest with the American people, and using diplomacy as a meaningful foreign policy device.

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DING! DING! DING! We Have A Winner! That is exactly the right response!

I prefer the Russ Feingold quote:

John McCain has a 3 July 1776 mindset.

perfect! hopefully, some obama advisor is watching these boards.

September 10th was a beautiful day. Intelligence failure caused the attacks, not happiness. John McCain has a Gestapo mindset.

True colors, Mr. McCain. Your appeals to fear do little to convince me that you are any different from GWB.

What Bush and McCain fail to realize is the reality of the enemey. Terrorists are created when their evil leaders exploit the hatred of America. Gitmo and Abu Grabe(sp) are among their most powerful arguments that the US is corrupt. We can't just kill the bodies, we have to attack the mindset. Our strongest weapon is our obedience to America ideals. The very thought that we let people we belive want to destroy our way of life go before a judge... the idea that we will not lock people up if we can't prove they deserve imprisonment is what sets us apart and makes the rest of the world revere us. When we flush those ideals down the toilet, we are giving up our most powerful weapon in the war against the terrorist mentality.

The fact that we harm our ideals to satisfy not the military need, but the rabid ravings of right wingers who see it as a sign of weakness is the essential of the Bush doctrine. I think in his heart, McCain agrees, but he is so beholden to the right wing, he's thrown out his ideals, along with the nation's. He's in the "anything to win" Mode.

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Those who would have us live in perpetual fear are not only un-American but incomplete human beings. Strong people face adversity and uncertainty with compelling moral authority based on self-awareness and love for all of God's creation.

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Bingo.

Can't you hear Rove whispering in his ear..." use this approach...."kerry had no answers for it"..

but Obama is not John Kerry and he is ready to respond to this line of bs!

Most definitely. Rove is McCain's earpiece this election just as he was for Bush in the past.

It's June and the Republicans are already scrapping the barrel for issues. This really is sad in a pathetic sort of way.

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And John McCain has an August 29th mindset. August 29, 1936.

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Instead I would argue that McCain has a Sept 12, 2001 mindset. Remember that was the day when we were all panicking and knew practically nothing about what had happened.

If we are willing to give up our freedom because of a few terrorists, then haven't the terrorists already won?

I will not let a few radicals destroy everything this country was founded on.

John McCain does not understand that you don't fight terrorists by giving them what they want.

What I wouldn't give for a September 10th mindset, back when it seemed like the Bush administration would be an annoying one-term blip in our country's history. If I'm not mistaken, the problem date wasn't so much September 10, 2001 as August 6.

McCain has a diminishing mindset.

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I think a whole lot of us would like to go back to a September 10 mindset. Because near as I can tell, the 9/11 mindset hasn't made us any safer, but it has managed to cost us the lives of thousands of Americans soldiers, the minds and limbs of tens of thousands more, hundreds of billions of dollars and a complete loss of credibility in the world. Meanwhile, bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaeda is gaining strength again in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and pretty much the entire Middle East hates us, mostly for good reason, seeing as we're responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and the displacement of more than a million, and the destruction of the entire country's infrastructure, which we've been rebuilding haphazardly with contractors doing substandard work (while charging us premium prices).

So, yes, please, I'm ready for some 9/10 thinking.

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Absolutely! Remember the crazy high approval rating that Bush received post-Sept 11th? That the then used to push us into a terrible war of choice in Iraq?

This country lost it's mind for a little while because of Sept 11th and I would argue that it is time for a new mindset that doesn't throw away all of the lessons of our past while learning from the last 7 years. And Obama has that mindset!

Interesting timing: I just posted the exact same analysis over in TPM Cafe about revisiting the arguments of 2004.

This is the most aggressive McCain has challenged Obama to date. It will be interesting to see how Obama responds. I'm sure however he responds will be brilliant.

It's deja vu all over again.

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I'm still looking for the day when september 12 gets here. We have been stuck in a 9/11 endless loop for over 7 years. Please let september 12 get here someday. Hopefully, January of 09.

Americans to McCain: It's 2008!

The fear-mongering won't work this year.

How about you come up with something new? Is that even possible for you? Same old, tired arguments and policies.

I'd be easier to fight the ageist charge if didn't come across as so stale and out of touch.
Also, be easier to fight the McBush charge if you didn't get down on your knees and suck everything from him, including his campaign tactics.

McCain- old, tired, out of touch, and desperate.

John McCain using Bush campaign tactics, further cementing the idea the McCain is McSame.

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I too have a 'Sept 10th mindset':

I believe in the Constitution.

I believe it wrong to spy on our fellow Americans.

I believe torture is wrong and immoral.

I believe it is wrong to start a war against a country that is not a threat to us.

etc, etc

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AMEN!

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mcCain has a pre 1789 mindset. it reminds him of his childhood, when we didn't have that pesky constitution.

Who was in office on Sept. 10th? Who was in control of the intelligence agencies, law enforcement, aviation ? Who decided to go on vacation for the entire month of August 2001?

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The McCain camp also sought to revive memories of Hillary's attacks on Obama's commander in chief cred, revealing that Hillary's national security criticism is giving McCain ammunition in the general election, as many Hillary critics predicted.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

In all seriousness, good job Greg for acknowledging this point.

Obama shouldn't cope to a Sept. 10 mindset, but should point out that his mindset is decidedly American, representative of all this country has stood for throughout its history, including its constant dedication to the rule of law -- even in times of war and even when it come to respecting wholly the rights of enemy combatants.

What's more, I would point out to Sen. McClain that an American mindset also includes respect for the American people and a demand for leadership that respects honesty, fairness and, yes, human life.

It seems to me that Bush's post-Sept. 11 mindset, which McCain has adopted whole-hog, has little regard for honesty, fairness and has shown a willingness to play fast and loose with the sons and daughters of hard-working American.

^^ "cope" should be "cop" ^^

When did McCain hire Rudy as a consultant?

I seem to remember someone else's September 10th: looking forward to spending some quality time the next morning with his pet goat.

McCain Campaign Accuses Obama Of Having "A September 10th Mindset"

Better that than a 1896 mindset: "My opponent is like Williams Jenning Bryan!"

Oh, please, please, please run this campaign yet again, GOP.

McCain: Boys, we need us a new approach. This here Obama is running roughshod all over us here there and everywhere!
Campaign guy 1: He got that re-form people want!
Campaign guy 2: We got to get us some a that re-form!
McCain: No, you nitwits, he cornered the market on re-form! He got the little guy with him! We need something bold!
Campaign guy 1: Something fresh!
Campaign guy 2: Something diff'nt!
McCain: What have we got in the pipeline?
Campaign guy 1: I got it!
McCain: Go!
Campaign guy 1: We go all 9/11!
Campaign guy 2: That ole pre-9/11 mindset!
Campaign guy 1: It's a big hit!
Campaign guy 2: A real barn burner!
Campaign guy 1: Not much dust on it!
Campaign guy 2: Look what it done for Rudy!
Campaign guy 1: Mayor of America!
Campaign guy 2: Front runner for a loooong time!
Campaign guy 1: Real long!
McCain: You nitwits! Rudy Giuliani done up and lost this here thing!
Campaign guy 1: (Pause) Ain't got nothing else.
Campaign guy 2: Hear that loud and clear. Gas tax a flub, don't know shoe polish about home mortgage thingies.
McCain: (Long pause) Okay, go.

The question is not what McCain will do when he receives the 3.00 am phone call, the question is will he be able to wake up for the call.

Say "G'night," Grampy McSame....

You're TOAST!!!!

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Obama should say something like this...."I don't need to get George W. Bush's approval before I make my judgements on the war in Iraq or on Terror as it appears Senator McCain does. At least my mindset is MINE.

Doing it Bush's way (and therefore McCain's way) hasn't worked. We have over 'number of captured prisoners' still waiting to be indicted. The leader of these terrorists remains free to this day. Just recently in fact, it's been reported that Bush ordered the military to FIND Bin Laden BEFORE he leaves office.

At least what we did to those that attacked the WTC in 93 have been convicted and are now serving their life sentences.

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How about Obama reminds Americans and McCain of Condi Rice's MINDSET on 9/9/01 -- Bin Laden wouldn't use airplanes to hit our tall buildings....

How about Obama reminds McCain of Bush's mindset during August 2001 -- ignoring the WARNINGS he was given while on vacation at his ranch?

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OHIO POLL
Obama 50%
McCain 39%

Would it be faith then to suggest that McBush has "lost his bearings"

Its 2008, you fear-mongering old bag!

Let me get this straight. Obama wanted to get bin Laden before even considering what to do with Saddam, but he has a 9/10 mindset.

Has McCain's gaffes and memory lapses now extended to having trouble with dates?

i eagerly await a post from mr kleefeld or mr sargent on how unfair to the Democratic party it is that their candidate has to deal with GOP attack ads featuring statements that Hillary Clinton must have known would be used in such a manner when she was making them.

...but i'm not holding my breath.

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Absolutely! This is an opportunity for Obama to agree with McCain that he does indeed have a 9/10 mindset -- if that means remaining faithful to the Constitution, being honest with the American people, and using diplomacy as a meaningful foreign policy device.


Yes! Bring on the goddamn pre-9-11 mindset, please!!!!! Can we please quit taking our goddamn shoes off at the airport? Can we please fly with shampoo and lighters again? I don't care if the fucking plane gets hijacked - I want my life back and the lives of every single American who has been living like America is a fucking war zone. I'm sick of it and everyone I know is. Mr. Tena said he'd vote for the first person who said: Let's go back to being normal!

Yes!

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Ditto. All that crap is just to keep us living in fear and to keep republicans in power. All a bunch of bs.

I think it would be great if Obama blew the whole 'war on terror' meme out the water as well. There is no such thing as a war on terror. Terror is a tactic. It is simply used as a phrase to create fear of a phantomless opponent.

Obama should also refer to his reasoning for not going to war as his pre9/11 mindset...where he said he was not opposed to war...just dumb wars.

I think Obama has a lot of credible statements that demonstrate his pre 9/11 mindset were dead on target and that Bush and McCain were completely wrong.

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If Senator Obama did receive that 3 A.M. call, his response would be to call the lawyers in the Justice Department

"Hey, Fredo! Hey, Schlozman! There's long-hair hippies an faggots tryin to register fer votin! Musta be Al Queda workin! Get onnit rite away!"

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O now that was uncanny - you are just flat channeling Commander Coocoo Bananas.

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Is McCain trying to channel Giuliani? That might actually be excellent news... for Obama!

John McCain wants to unilaterally surrender our deeply cherished American values because he is so afraid of terrorists.

Well I am not afraid. And I am not willing to surrender my respect for the Constitution.

We can destroy the terrorists and renew respect for the rule of law, individual liberty and our democratic values throughout the world.

Yes, we can.

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Not doing anything but agreeing with you - but can I use your comment as an opportunity to remind everyone of something? The chances of any American dying in an attack in this country by terrorist are roughly 1 in 90,000. The odds are better for dying by being hit by lightning.

The Great War On Terror is a big fat hoax. It is and always was nothing more than an excuse to cut our personal liberties and privacy rights to ribbons, to increase central government control over every one of us (you know they are monitoring our bank accounts these days, doncha? I remember when I wrote my law school paper on the Bank Right to Privacy Act, which gave us protection from just what is going on now;) to keep us scared and voting for Repugs. It is not a threat to us, really. It never was.


Here is word for word what Mussolini told the Italian public in the radio when he invaded Abyssinia:

"They hate us for our freedoms. Word for word.


There is no Great War on Terror! There has only been a war on the constitution and ultimately on us!

The people who would do us harm are dangerous and serious, so it is not necessary to diminish the threat they pose. But it is is also not necessary to be afraid. We should continue with a full court press until these guys are destroyed. But we also have to fight a constructive battle, one that marginalizes them so much that they are unable to operate. Obama understands this. McCain could care less.

McCain describes radical Islamic terrorism as the transcendent threat of our time. Compared to the other threats we have faced in our history, I am not impressed.

Never mind that since 9-11, 16,000 of our own citizens are murdered each year right here in the US. By the end of this year, since 9-11 (2002-2008), we will have suffered 112,000 home grown deaths.

Outstanding post.

Not only are our liberties in jeopardy and fascism taking over this country but we are now in a phase where the entire soverignty of America is up for sale.

There is a lot of high level discussion about us becoming the NorthAmericanUnion like there is a European Union. Folks at high levels in the Candadian, Mexican and American government our discussing joint military operations as well as the NAFTA agreement...both of which have served to undermine the very soverignty of the USA as a nation.

Our jobs, and companies as wellas national security are up for sale, thanks to GWBush.

It is not just civil liberties anymore..we are looking at pre-American War status where we are no longer our own nation.

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Anybody hear any comments from the mcbush camp about the breaking news that was drowned out by the russert love fest? The iraqi government is refusing to negotiate with the king for a long term security agreement. The iraqis also might not agree to extending the un mandate and the iraqis plan on passing laws to address the us military presence. Toooooooo funny. Talk about poking a stick in your eye mcbush and the king. We could be otta there within a year regardless if mcbush wins by dumb luck.

Blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah terrorism blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah terrorism.

Methinks McSame has a 2004 campaign mindset.

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Well done!

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Screw the pasty-white inbred idiot . . .

I have a July 4, 1776 mindset:

Give me Liberty or geive me death.

Patrick Henry

Every real American should join me . . . Chicken-hawks scamper back to Britain . . . whimpering.

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I feel ya - I'm right here with ya.

How about this..."John McCain's problem is that he is once again locked into a George W. Bush midset."

For second I had to ask myself what's Sept. 10?
Oh that's right Sept. 11, 2001 is what McCain is referring to.
Good news McCain is no longer living in the 1960s he's now in 2001.

Vote GOP to be scared all the time! I promise that as your President, I will remind you at least twice a week that the appropriate American mindset is a paralyzung terror of a bunch of invisible enemies and threats that you can't confirm.

Today's GOP: "We have the Leadership to Scare the Sh*t Out of You!"

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John McCain has a fine mind. He is immediately able to repeat whatever Rove says to him. No neocon talking point shall be overlooked. Every "maverick" position he ever took can be reversed quickly and easily. John has a flexible mind. Able to reverse field and take opposite positions and back again in just hours.

Why, it is Super McCain. Able to leap tall logic in a single bound, to hit all the wrong points at the wrong time in history.

Poor, poor pitiful fool. In fact, there is no fool like an old fool.

And McPudknocker's 1910 mindset?

Seeing as how well embracing the Sept. 11th issue worked for Guilianni, does McCain really think bringing that up will work in his favor?

I smell Rudy.

9/11/9/11/9/11/9/11/9/11

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Or Obama could remind everyone we had a lot more real hope before 9/11, and the Bush administration's Iraq-war response that disaster hasn't shattered any remnant that hope?

And maybe we need to renew the pre-9/11 disposition, that is the best way to overcome our grief and mourning?

They just put these on the tee for him, don't they? It's very kind of them.


Never seen millions of frustrated, angry Americans demonstrate in the streets, like they do in Europe and the rest of the world? If the U.S. grants amnesty and gives citizenship to 12 to 30 million illegal migrants, as Senators Obama and McCain propose, those naturalized citizens could possibly add 120 million U.S. and foreign-born relatives to the U.S. in the next 20 years, who all consume energy. Diversity Alliance for Sustainable America. www.earthtimes.org/ You must decide your children's future, your jobs by demanding Democrats sponsor the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088 enforcement in the workplace) Call toll-free (2022243121 )
NUMBERSUSA.

This old tired line? We get it. Democrats want to gay marry your kids and turn them into abortion-loving terrorists. (yawn)

Seems Giulliani's recent "unofficial" addition to the McCan't campaign is already having a direct affect. Worked great for him. I'm going to enjoy watching them implode.

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We can expect more of this desperate lashing out from a campaign that knows it's already dead in the water.

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John McCain is stuck in the September eleventh spin cycle.

Keep it simple folks:

Here is all that needs to be said, and just keep repeating it over and over. Make placards and bumper stickers of it.


John McCain Has A George W. Bush Mindset.

Okay, let's see--the pre-9/11 mindset was to catch the guys who did bad things and lock them away. The post 9/11 mindset is to burn through hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives, wreck the economy, ruin our international reputation, strengthen our avowed enemies, and give the guy who started it all another 6 1/2 years of freedom.

Yeah, I can see what that would be a problem for Obama.


If McCain and the GOP had their way, the terrorist threat level color scale would consist of only RED.

McSame: 3/18/2003 mindset

(Shock and Awe is gonna be FUN!)

Outstanding post.

Not only are our liberties in jeopardy and fascism taking over this country but we are now in a phase where the entire soverignty of America is up for sale.

There is a lot of high level discussion about us becoming the NorthAmericanUnion like there is a European Union. Folks at high levels in the Candadian, Mexican and American government our discussing joint military operations as well as the NAFTA agreement...both of which have served to undermine the very soverignty of the USA as a nation.

Our jobs, and companies as wellas national security are up for sale, thanks to GWBush.

It is not just civil liberties anymore..we are looking at pre-American War status where we are no longer our own nation.

ok fine - riddle me this -

why did McCain climb all over Obama about his 'actionable' intelligencce on Pakistan quote ? -

so he was against going after the evil doers before he was for going after the evil doers -

jeepers, how much is the Obama campaign payin' the McCain staff ?

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The incompetence of your enemy is your greatest asset. You do not have to pay for the victories he gives you.

Re: war on constitution: I stood on Church Street in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and watched it. I overheard people nearby - AS IT WAS HAPPENING - speculate that this was a government-planned tactic to foment paranoia and curtail civil liberties. Granted, this amounts to being present at the birth of a view of all this some would find extreme (and I don't buy into, although I mentally drum the table), but I bring it up to point out that skeptical perspectives on this (these were cynical Manhattanites, after all) have existed since the event was unfolding, in real time.

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