I wonder if penn wants some cheese with that whine. The clintons had a free pass in the media and they keep complaining about her being under some kind of microscope by the media. Give me a break, the press didn't go through all her garbage from the past and didn't go in depth into mr. bill's garbage. There were a handful of stories that were the tip of the iceberg that the ss clinton was heading into with penn at the wheel. What a joke.

By the way, interesting read, conservatives for obama. According to the article alot of conservatives see obama as more conservative then mcbush for, among other reasons, getting out of iraq asap and fiscal responsibility. Tsunami coming in november.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=46a816dc-f843-41ec-9fe4-fbeac17bcfca&p=3

Also, I liked the piece on this at the huffington post better. They included penn's snorts in response to questions and cut snippets from more interesting and informative questions.

Is Mark Penn on the ballot in November.

To hell with this shit. TPM is trying hard to defeat Obama. Hillary has thrown her support behind him, but TPM has not. Could it be that they can not stand the idea of having a ______man in the White House.

Folks: you can count on TPM continuing to ferret out attack lines for the Republicans to use against Obama. That is the only reason that they keep posting these kind of threads that are designed to to spread as much doubts as possible, so that Obama gets defeated. That is what TPM is up to.

Mark penn: The effing media are to blame for Hillary's loss.And I want my money...!

Seriously ... enough with the Hillary post-mortem. Obama is the nominee and we have a big fight ahead of us this fall. Hillary lost ... it's too bad, but let's stop trying to figure out "why" and turn our attention to the general election.

The put her under a microscope, eh?

But I thought that she would be the best candidate in the fall because she was already 'fully-vetted'....

Folks this is the beginning of the Clinton team coming out and spilling the beans. Others telling their side of the story wont be far behind.

Penn externalizing blame. What a surprise.

Why is Penn bragging that he wanted to screw things up even more than they already did?

"Yeah, if had been up to me we would have made Iraq a bigger issue and drove up our negatives more."

Tis is exactly the kind of shit I got from a junior associate when I confronted him about how it was that he could lose a motion against a pro se client with no fewer than seven Supreme Court precedents on our side.

"That judge, man...That judge was just a douchebag!"

Talk to the hand, my man.

A political flack who blames others for failure is not news. The next time some one says, "Hey, it's my fault. I am incompetent." Let me know.

I am trying to find the study, but didn't PEW find that positive coverage of both candidates was about the same until Hillary criticized the media for bias, at which point we saw a sharp decrease in positive coverage of Obama?

Sorry GQ. This should be a story, but it's about the clever manipulation of the press to favor Clinton. It's not about the media "falling in love" with Obama.

If the Clinton campaign was competent, none of this supposed media bias would have mattered. Exhibit A in support of its incompetence: Mark Penn. Exhibit B: failing to comprehend the ins and outs of caucuses. The list is practically endless. It wasn't David Schuster's fault.

Still further proof of what a clueless moron he is.

Though everything he says here is an attempt to be self-serving and has to be taken with a million grains of salt, he's also making two admissions:

1) He wanted to engage in dirty, sleazy campaigning right from Day One; and

2) He still doesn't get it that Hillary's Iraq vote and refusal to apologize for it or acknowledge that it was a mistake might well be the single greatest reason (among many) that she lost. Witness:

the rest of the campaign didn't want to tackle Iraq. They always felt that that was a losing proposition for her, and they always pulled it back.

They were right. And he was wrong.

He should go back to advising the Blackwaters of the world. He and they deserve one another.

Penn-nence.

It's good of Mark Penn to confirm that Bill Clinton's political judgement has gone to hell.

I was on huffington post this morning and saw a post about Tucker Carlson who last night on... hardball i think it was said something about obama having the thinnest resume of any president ever that could possibly win the election.

I hear this argument over and over from all sources, and obviously Mark Penn is saying it, the Clintons made it paramount in their campaign.

But the piece from huffington had three little blurbs of past presidents who actually won and had thinner resumes. There was also a blogger who posted something else, evil darkness or something was his name, but the fact is, the post enlightened me to just how we are being fed this lie

i dont know why other people, like chris matthews who obviously knows more about politics then I, or anyone who knows more about politics isnt just hammering back on these supposed facts. Perhaps im missing something, but anyway here is hte post, ive changed it a little bit so that i can recall it for people without tying it to the tucker carlson comment

So what constitutes this thinness of his resume that everyone keeps talking about

as someone else pointed out

Ronald Reagan, who served as the President of the United States from 1981-1989, had only eight years of government experience - three fewer than Obama - on his "resume."

Similarly, 20th century Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson won the presidency despite having thinner resumes than Obama (Wilson, for example, served a single two-year term as the Governor of New Jersey prior to becoming President).

This is a common myth perpetuated by the right and reinforced by Senator Clinton who had less elected and legislative experience than Obama. Additionally, both Bush and Bill Clinton had less foreign policy experience than Senator Obama.
http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/02/obamas_senate_foreign_relation.html

And of course, as well as Senator Obama's 8 years in the State Senate of Illinois and 3 years in Congress, a total of 11 years in elected office, he has something that is probably more important and more relevant to becoming President than any one of the candidates who vied for the Presidency this year, and that is his years spent teaching constitutional law.

Since George Bush has repeatedly wiped his boots on the constitution, I can't think of a better qualification than Senator Obama's experience as a constitutional Law Professor for the University of Chicago and his his civil rights experience as a lawyer.

Our constitution is in dire need of someone as President who respects it, and understands it from a legal standpoint.

I'm just praying that the GQ article does NOT include photos . . .

So, people in the Clinton campaign think she received unfair media scrutiny, eh? They must be referring to those weeks of 24-hour Jeremiah Wright and Bittergate coverage. No wait, THAT was the OTHER campaign.

You can probably pinpoint the exact moment (months ago) when people in the Clinton campaign realized she was going to lose. That was when they started looking for scapegoats (such as unfair media coverage) to divert attention from their own incompetence.