All of 20 hours over the combat zone before he was shot down and started makin propaganda tapes for the Commies

Oh there's a flotilla of swiftboats in drydock from 2000's wingnut attacks. Just google "McCain hanoi traitor"

"We're not gonna comment on that," Translation: "Hellz yeah we're gonna harp on his service!"

Say what you will about Lieberman, but that's an impressively eloquent statement from someone with McCain's cock in his mouth.

Hey McCain: If you're explaining, you're losing. Much better not to say dumb stuff in the first place.

Is hang-dog Lieberman basically McCain's official spokesman now, or does it just seem that way?

Look, here's how you spin this, McCain.

(ahem)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Senator McCain's comment -- that bringing the troops home is not important -- was not a gaffe. It was, in fact, completely sensible and in line with the Senator's position with regard to Iraq.

As Senator McCain has stated, these troops can expect to be in Iraq for a hundred years. Of course, very few people live to be a hundred years old, especially soldiers who are already in their twenties and thirties. In short, it's reasonable to conclude that those who aren't killed in battle will, under the Senator's plan, succumb to old age before their hundred year tour of duty has concluded.

Therefore, bringing them home is really not important.

As I understand it, McCain's service and incarceration was VERY difficult for his wife:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Is this going to be like Rudy's 9-11 tourettes?

McCain will have Iraq spewing out and his supporters will have POW?

Also, while I don't think McCain's POW time makes him qualified to be pres (if anything it makes him less qualified) I don't agree with bashing him on anything he did while incarcerated. It wasn't right to bash Kerry about his anti-war activism and it isn't right to bash McC for things he did to stay alive.

It is however, right to bash him for despite his experience, he supports Guantanamo and 'torture under certain conditions'.

No surprises really about McCain's attitude. McCain dropped his first wife like a bad habit, and doesn't expect that any of the soldiers currently serving to give a shit about their families either. Besides that it's classic "when I was your age I walked five miles to school in the freezing snow" stuff from grandpa mccain. "I was held by the Vietcong for five years, and look at me, I'm running for president! You'll stay in Iraq for ever and you'll like it because it's for the good of your country!" supposedly.

I believe the new one is going to be McCain AND his son's military service.
To me that doesn't make one iota of difference because from everything I can see, that is all McC can see- military, military, military.

On a different topic: Meh, Jim Johnson just stepped down. Felt he was too much of a distraction. I personally think this was much ado about nothing so I am sorry to see him go. I always hate it when good people can't contribute because of silly stuff.
I still want Samantha Powers to come back.

Why can't someone, anyone just point out the obvious to the McCain campaign: If you can't say what you mean, then you can't mean what you say.
Screaming no no no! what he actually meant was... should not be allowed to fly.

First of all I think folks should follow Barack's approach and acknowledge and respect McCain's war record. He volunteered for service, he was beaten behind enemy lines and tortured for five years. That's serious stuff and should not be mocked or disregarded.

However, just having been in the military should not in my opinion be an automatic qualification for glowing National Security credentials. Am I missing something? He wasn't in a senior leadership position, making any strategic decisions in the military at any time was he? A builder does not a great architect make.

Has anyone bothered to inform Lieberman that he's a joke?

Not a very funny one, either.

another point to make on the Not too important comment. We saw what failing to plan did to post conflict Iraq and where it lead us (today) and so I think that there is a broader message that McCain is sending with that comment. I feel like that says, "we don't need to plan for a way out" That's like saying I didn't study for my midterm, got an F, but for the final I don't need to make a plan to get a better grade because it's not too important, what is important is that I don't fail. I don't know that just doesn't seem to me to make much reasonable sense. If McCain had said: "It is important to have a plan for ending the conflict because we do not want to leave Iraq without creating stability. We want an Iraqi force that can secure it's borders and city streets and keep it's people safe because we care. And it is important that I bring our troops home safely, however, we don't have that plan in place yet." Well then perhaps we could say ok your working on the problem and we could trust you to actually do something about it. But as he said it, it makes him look just like Bush in his inability to address the American people with any honesty. It makes him sound like he has no idea what he is going to do to end this conflict.

Lieberman is looking more and more like McCain's handler. Does a vote for McCain include a vote for Lieberman?

What I mean is they appear joined at the hip, with Lieberman there to offer a helping hand whenever the old man stumbles. Is the analogy McCain:Lieberman::Hillary:Bill apropos?

Hey, somebody has to be in Iraq to staff those 80 bases we're going to have, right?

I took a personal slant on this back in May with this post....http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com/2008/05/politically-incorrect.html

Lieberman makes me want to throw up. Who voted for this guy, seriously? I want to punch every one of them in the throat.

Metaphorically, of course.

Lieberman is such a tool. As if McCain's POW experience gives him license not to care about what soldiers and their families are going through today.

Just because he was a POW doesn't mean that he gives a damn about what the military is going through. The way that McCain talks about Iraq, as well as his votes on veteran benefits, show a pattern of not caring about the welfare of soldiers.

His long experience of being under torture in Vietnam may help us to understand how he became so emotionally shut down, and why he can't afford to feel the pain of other soldiers, but this is hardly the quality that we want in our next commander-in-chief. It should be a major disqualification for the job.

They just hired a new sheriff in my county. I noticed that before she could even take office, she had to pass a psychological examination. It's a pity they don't do the same for president, because McCain would never pass.