Hillary's Concession Speech Will Kick Off Battle For Her Supporters
Her speech in Washington, where she will concede defeat and endorse Obama, starts in moments. Watch it streamed live here.
What today's speech really represents is the kick-off of the grueling battle that will unfold over her supporters. John McCain's campaign advisers say they plan to compete aggressively for them, and indeed they are already conducting focus groups among Hillary supporters in key battleground states:
Republicans plan to describe Obama as an elitist from the Hyde Park section of Chicago, where liberal professors mingle in an academic world that is alien to most working-class voters. They plan to make sure Clinton's voters do not forget about Obama's comments that working-class people are bitter and cling to their guns and religion as a way of dealing with the economic uncertainty they face....In recent days, the Republican campaign has held focus groups in the Rust Belt and Appalachian states where Obama's messages of hope and change failed to translate into votes, including one session in Pittsburgh -- Obama lost in Pennsylvania to Clinton, and it will almost surely be a critical swing state in the fall. McCain advisers said they found a palpable unease with Obama among those groups.
So today Hillary's speech will be closely watched for signs of how ardently -- and how effectively -- she makes Obama's case. Now that the McCain team has signaled that they are going to aggressively compete for her supporters, Hillary's actions today and in coming weeks could end up having a palpable impact, whether she effectively rallies her supporters behind Obama, or alternatively, whether she fails to this.
We'll be blogging Hillary's speech here.















has anyone had trouble commenting over the last few days?
June 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. At times it asks for my password, but won't take the password! And can't get into the profile to change that either.
June 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
I sent an email re: the "woe" typo in the front page story linking to this post, but see that it hasn't been changed.
June 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, on & off. Figured out the best way around it was to sign out and then sign back in.
June 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. It returns "unknown user" but it logs me on. Have to return to home page and go back to the post to learn that
We will be watching
June 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm getting the random logins also - and one server error (you don't return error codes, so it was just "internal")
I *think* the login issue happens when you switch between sections. I haven't done low-level cookies for awhile, but I don't think you can read a cookie set in one domain (tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com) from another (tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com). I haven't needed to work with cookies for a several years, so I could be talking out my ass - but I think that's the prob.
Also, when you login after failure it says it's an invalid login but sets the cookie anyhow (and makes the post).
June 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
And for all the geeks out there: I meant Host, not Domain.
June 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
But that's been happening for me for a couple of weeks. Plus the random refusal to take my password, and if I re-type it, the form accepts it. But that's been for weeks too.
June 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, tried to comment at 4:15, got error message.
June 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gosh, I wonder how this one will go down.
June 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
When I log in via comments section, it says "Error, unknown user", but I'm actually logged in (it says "Hi David Sloane" below the banner). So no, not really.
Also, thanks for covering this story. It's news, it's important. Many of my fellow Obama supporters seem to think Hillary and Hillary coverage should evaporate, but Senator Clinton is still important, like it or not.
June 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, she's just not *ALL* important. Although today really is "her" day.
June 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Same thing Greg, when one tries to edit info, it is a mess, says error constantly, and then I automatically get an email saying I have to go back to site to confirm change/password, but if I do that, it just keeps repeating this process over and over.
June 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg: One more thing, I am used to working around this now, but if I were a new user, I would probably say forget it.
June 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting. I've always had the problem mentioned by David above.
June 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto
June 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
me three. just now, in fact -- so I just hit the back button and tried again. i you see this, i guess it worked the second time.
June 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that my prediction is wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if we hear the lie about winning the popular vote. Today's speech is a real test of Clinton's bona fides and character.
(I, too, encountered the "Error, unknown user" problem about a week ago on several occasions. But lately all's well.)
June 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
On Friday I was having messages saying internal server error & tried reposting. Multiple comments eventually showed up. Nice way to artificially inflate the comments number on a particuar post though!
June 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the particular reader's blog where it was particularly bad.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/yesterday-was-the-day-the-chan.php
June 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
This election is going to be a choice between clinging to the past out of fear or embracing the future with hope. Yes, McCain definitely will appeal to some of Hillary's old, fearful, beaten, downscale voters but Obama will appeal to Republicans who want a future for their children in a world where competition with Brazil and India will be more important than an obsession with quagmires in the middle east.
June 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
i kindof think mccain will win most of the rush clintonites. the feministas and progressivists not so much.
June 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's still in her house and the speech has been moved back to 12:30.
June 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The looooooooonnnnnngggg goodbye! Getting longer!
June 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Won't even watch. As a Hillary supporter I already know that there is nothing that she can say or do that will satisfy the media or her detractors.
Hopefully she will bow out gracefully and go back to the senate and forget all this talk about VP.
There is no up side to it either for her or senator Obama.
Hillary supporters like myself will vote in droves for Obama because he is the nominee, and all of us know that there is no way that this country can survive 4 more years of Rebublican
criminality in the White House.
June 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good on you, jace.
I fervently hope the vast majority of Hillary supporters come around to your way of thinking.
I love the smell of victory on November Wednesday mornings.
June 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jace you are an enlightened one. I hope there are many many more like you... I think there are.
June 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This makes it sound as if it is up to Hillary whether Obama wins or loses.
I agree her actions are important - and for herself as much as anyone - but we need to remember that among the "18" million, as many as six of ten (from various surveys) said right away they would support whomever was the nominee. So basically we are talking about the remaining forty percent. Not small, granted, and definitely needed in the fall. But:
Consider that among this group, many will begin to soften in their attitudes with the normal passage of time and the lessening of emotion.
And many will be persuaded by the very real prospect of an all conservative Supreme Court.
So while I agree that we all want Hillary to bring her supporters over to Obama, while we all want her to genuinely work for and support Obama, while we all want unity, let's just be realistic about the numbers.
June 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Her supporters (to the degree they are "hers" ???) are not a bloc, as they've been "portrayed." No more than Obama supporters are a "bloc." And people who have been "invisible?" Give me a break! (But she needs to feel she has this cheering squad. Ok. But we don't need to buy that, just because it's being sold.)
June 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm waiting to see the two of them, Obama and Clinton, on stage together. That would be the ultimate sign of unity. When's THAT going to happen?
June 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I expect Hillary to be gracious on this occasion.
She will not clain to have gotten the popular vote.
I almost always get the unknown user message.
Then I type in a different name , same password, and my comment posts with the original name. Go figure.
June 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
If being an "elitist" means having command of the English language, or being able to communicate ones thoughts in an articulate manner, to have excelled at a respected University, to have achieved the American Dream, then Barack Obama is a proud "elitist". What is the point of this whole downward mobility thing? If being all of these things I mentioned is anathema, what will become of our country? If John McCain can gather the required neurons for one occasion, then he can call Barack Obama anything he wants, and we can consider the source.
We cannot, at his perilous time in American History afford to put another imbecile in the White House. John McCain is not mentally fit and if one reads the article on Politico, everybody knows that.
June 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you have a link to that article?
June 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I fully endorse this post.
June 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, sure, the Repubs are gonna work the Rust Belt and Appalachia. But, once you get past the Repub talkers and their talking points, there's a lot of comparisons in this story that the reporter reasons exactly opposite of me.
The Clinton supporters are angry now --- certainly angrier than they were in December when Clinton's nomination was unevitable. That the numbers that would reflect an increase in those supporters defecting to McCain and less of them viewing Obama favorably is not surprising.
If you look at the 1980 election versus the 2008 election, the situations are almost completely reversed. Carter was an incumbent who had failed to manage well the Iran hostage crisis and presided over long lines at gas stations during the late 1970s energy crisis.
Now, the Repubs are the incumbent party who have failed to manage well and ill-chosen war (that their nominee wholly supports) and presided over our most critical energy crisis ever!
If anything, Obama is moreso in the position of Reagan and McCain in the position of Carter.
To my mind, these last conclusions are the only ones that are correctly interpreted in this story. And they both favor Obama.
June 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
As soon as Hillary Clinton clearly and succinctly states to her female supporters, "John McCain has vowed to help overturn Roe v. Wade and unless you want to give away the right to make decisions about your own body, women must and will vote for Barack Obama," white women voters won't be a problem.
June 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
She hasn't spoken yet, but I predict that it will be a heartfelt endorsement. (from an Obama supporter)
June 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, she still hasn't spoken yet, but Tweety is speculating on what's going on inside the house. He thinks everyone, from Bill to Mark Penn, is putting finishing touches on her speech.
I just want this to be over.
June 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope I'm wrong but I fully expect more Hillary drama. First of all, here we all are, waiting for her with bated breath. Next I expect her to thank all her supporters and list all her accomplishments, including winning the popular vote. In other words, I expect another campaign speech from the alternate Clinton universe. But I repeat, I do hope I'm wrong and that it's all about endorsing Obama and calling on all her people to support him.
June 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else think they saw Mark Penn for a second as the cars were leaving the house, when the gates opened?
I did, and would be amazed if they're still bunkered with him.
June 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's a strong woman. Her non-concession speech was not a whiny woe is me I've been robbed speech. It was a look at what we've accomplished speech. These are the values I've been fighting for speech. Thank you to my supporters for standing behind me speech. I will do everything in my power to ensure your concerns are heard within the democratic party speech. In short in was a celebration of a long hard fought campaign.
This will be the concession speech where she congratulates Obama & urges her supporters to support our nominee. She's a strong woman that has been forced to make amends publicly and put forth a public image of strength in much worse circumstances for the good of her party and the country. I predict a phenomenal and heartfelt speech.
June 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
But is she a strong woman?
June 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely - to come in with this aura of inevitability and face this upstart who takes the lead from the get go. She is tenacious and she is a fighter and did not just pack up her bags and go home. She continued to speak for the issues that mattered to her and ran a tough of a campaign, particularly in the second half. You can say what you want about Hillary but I don't think there's anyone in their right mind that doesn't consider her strong.
June 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just couldn't tell from your comment if she was a strong woman. It was a little ambiguous. (I'm just being a dick)
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry my snark-o-meter is off :)
June 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously though, she is damn good. I must admit.
June 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that you have it right.
I see two possible outcomes in the GE.
McCain wins by a razor thin margin(very unlikely)
Obama wins in a walk over.(very probable)
The Rebublicans simply do not know what to do or how take on Obama, hence the great play for
Clinton supporters. If they are looking to the other party for votes in the fall they must be in real trouble, which of course they are. If the election were very close it might make a difference, but at this point a close election is just a Republican pipe dream.
June 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've had to enter my password twice when commenting, though I was already logged in. I had this problem for a while after the change over but not in the last few weeks.
June 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This makes it sound as if it is up to Hillary whether Obama wins or loses."
well, Duh!
June 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
can of worms! great avatar!
June 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope you're right dijamo. I'm an Obama supporter but, as a woman, I'm proud of what Clinton's accomplished.
I want her to give a strong speech that we can all be proud of.
June 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't seen the human Hillary much in my lifetime.
Will the real Hillary Clinton stand up?
June 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN says: 20 minute speech. Why she got into race. And why there needs to be a Dem in the White House.
June 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just hope the speech ends in time for the Belmont.
June 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't had the "have to log in twice" problem in a long time - a month or more, I guess. But, when I was having that problem, I noticed something that should make it a little easier on people who are currently having it:
When it tells you that your username or password are incorrect, you don't have to type anything in again. You can just hit "submit" again, without having a password typed in, and voila, you are (strangely) logged in.
June 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
That used to work for me. But it didn't yesterday!
June 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have only one slight worry about today's speech (12:40 and still waiting), and that is that I understand Mark Penn is helping her write it. Why him?
Crowd is getting restive now, clapping hands to music, occasional shout-outs of "Hillary." Very restrained crowd, not at all the same as at the RBC meeting.
I am wondering if the crowd will boo when she mentions Obama's name for the first time. That would be a bad sign indeed.
June 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why Penn?
Because he's no doubt working on the effort to get her on the ticket as VP. That, combined with the intercession of one of her "hard-working White American" supporters, is her only hope of getting in the Presidency now.
Expect her effective support of Obama to vanish if he should choose anyone else as his running mate; after that the 'gaffes', the off-message comments, and anything else potentially useful to the McCain campaign, will begin.
June 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watching MSNBC. Keith Olberman's ego has reached ridiculous heights this campaign season. He steps on Russert and Matthews all the time.
He has become utterly unwatchable. Unfortunately, CNN has been unwatchable for months.
Just my thoughts. KO was great on ESPN; he is now a caricature that loves to hear his own voice.
June 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe it's all just a gentle hint that you should stop watching teevee altogether.
June 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting introduction. First Bill Clinton (did they say prez or former prez?) and then Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Not sure what to make of that!
June 7, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
black jacket.... mourning?
June 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's Order of Precedence. Past presidents are always (or, are always supposed to be) introduced before current Senators.
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
exactly why I don't want hillary as VP.
June 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure I understand. As Vice President, she would be introduced before everyone except Barack and Michelle Obama, including before Bill Clinton and other past Presidents.
June 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can they please stop pointing?
June 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
So far the speech sounds just like the one on Tuesday night.
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Saw this on Hillaryis44:
Really? They're still trying to win this???
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey asshole that person's name is djia not dija.
My name is Dija as in Khadija. And I have never posted on hillary is 44. Go slur someone else.
June 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do you think the post was aimed against you? Are you just naturally touchy? There was nothing in that post suggesting that this 'djia' (whoever she might be) is you.
June 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because someone else made the same comment. And it's wrong and it doesn't even SOUND like me. Just want to correct the record.
June 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correcting the record is fine, but do you really have to insult others in the process?
June 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Again I was overly sensitive because an asshole called mrgrinch1971@gmail.com has been e-mailing quite nasty things aboutme and posting them too. He's an asshole stalker. Bunedoutdem didn't deserve that and I apologized.
June 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's okay - I think the posts went up all at once. One apology is fine :)
Seriously, did you report that email to the TPM folks? You should be able to know which screen name is connected to it.
June 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup I've reported to both TPM and gmail. Gmail gave me some very helpful advice on filters. TPM has deleted most comments after I report them but if you don't see it how can you report. Also it's fairly easy to just use a new name that's why I assumed you could have been said asshole stalker.
June 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I wasn't referring to you. When have we even conversed on the boards?
Are you going to apologize for calling me an asshole? That was really uncalled for.
June 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh? I wasn't saying you did. Follow the link, I pulled it straight off their boards. I don't even know who you are, why would I make fun of you?
Got a high opinion of yourself...
June 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
My apologies - some asshole stalker (not you)who found my personal e-mail address accused me of being one and the same with this djia character before and it's not true. Just wanted to clarify for the record.
June 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry you've been hassled - have you reported the email address to TPM? They could probably link it to the screen name.
June 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, they're still trying to win this. After Tuesday it only became much harder for them and more risky; but I don't believe for a second that the Clinton forces have given up.
June 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like the party is unifying even before this speech:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
There are other detail in the poll which is important, but this nugget seems appropriate today.
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This isnt good...this did not need to be all about her and thus far it is. Not good.
June 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just reminds everyone why she should bow out.
June 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think she is actually using the same script as the Tuesday non-concession speech! WTF?
June 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not gonna miss the "a single mom grabbed my hand/arm/wrist and said..." template.
June 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait...this could be good...she can't turn on a dime, but she can shift their focus.
June 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like "we fought" for "ourselves."
June 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think dems would stop using that after Gore got nailed for making stuff up...
June 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thus far "it's all about me."
June 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoop! There it is!
June 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally, she's endorsing Obama.
June 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
there we go.. too bad there were still a number of boos in that audience response.
June 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok not as quick as I wanted but good enuff I spose
June 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally! to help elect Barack Obama "THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!"
June 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"today our paths have merged"
(just got locked out, Greg!)
June 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats better much better
June 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
she is doing what she needs to do. I applaud her.
It does not look easy for her, but this can not be any easy day for her.
Thanks for your unambiguous support.
June 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better, but the difference in enthusiasm from when she was talking all about herself is palpable.
June 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Best delivery I've ever seen from Hillary
Serious as a heart attack
She means business
June 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
First time in a long time she's being "honest." She knew it was a lost cause for a long time.
June 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if she's ever had a crowd boo her before...I mean, I've heard them boo Obama, but they really booed HER for praising Obama.
And now the speech is back to her...
June 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if she's ever had a crowd boo her before...I mean, I've heard them boo Obama, but they really booed HER for praising Obama.
And now the speech is back to her...
June 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to see her throw her passion behind universal health care. If she'd done that instead of framing herself as the warrior queen she'd have beat him.
June 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
"Yes we can!"
Good on you, Sen. Clinton!
June 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do hope all TPM readers heard the loud and sustained cheering when Hillary said that we must all throw our support behind Barack Obama. It certainly contrasts to some of the booing I have heard at Obama events when he mentioned her name. It's time for us to work together. My hope is that the tenor of the posts in the Cafe section of this site will reflect that goal of unity.
June 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
My hope is that the tenor of the posts in the Cafe section of this site will reflect that goal of unity.
Yeah, I'd like to see that, too. And, let's start by acknowledging the loud booing coming from Hillary's supporters when she said they should get behind Obama and when she congratulated him on his win. It only started to taper off after she repeated loudly three times that 'we need to get behind Barack Obama.' Maybe the 'booers' got elbowed in the ribs a few times and thought better of it.
But, there was nothing like that at the Obama rallies and it's long past time for her supporters to knock it off.
June 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
She hit it out of the park. She's a Democrat. Go Hillary! Thank you, Hillary!
June 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is my homegirl!
June 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no problems with this speech, it's quite good. She's saying all the important things to calm those hard core HRC supporters about how silly it is to vote McCain. I hope she mentions Supreme Court too.
June 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
She did!
June 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm watching now. She's doing a great job. She's saying the right things and saying them like she means them.
But, all those Hillary supporters who are booing every time she says something complimentary about Obama should, in my opinion, be dragged out into the street and beaten to a bloody pulp. For god's sake, children, grow the fuck up!
I didn't hear any booing at Obama's speech Tuesday night when he was saying great things about Hillary. And the Hillary supporters who were there said they were treated wonderfully by the Obama supporters.
June 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she has a debt retirement fund, I'm contributing.
June 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
me too.
however, if i hear "hilliaryclinton.com" i will not.
June 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
She needs to praise Obama. Instead, she's talking about policy points. Nothing wrong with that, but this is the time for a much warmer endorsement.
OMG -- she's reminding us that she would have been the best president! Talking about why SHE ran!
June 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's entitled to revel in her support. She's done a good job for Obama.
June 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
wonder if there's an Obama supporter "retire Hillary's debt" fund. If not, we should start one - how do we start it?
June 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain will not capture these voters, unless they are head-in-the-sand, low information morons.
She just said "we cannot let this moment slip away". "Yes We Can" she just dropped it in! And she is reminding us that this is about issues, not personalities. There's a stark choice between Dems and Repubs, "that's why we need to help elect Barack our President". She needs to keep this up, all day, every day between now and November.
June 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, the low info voters delivered Clinton Ohio and Penn. They were kinda her base for the last half of the primary.
June 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm impressed with her crowd's response. And the speech.
She's really putting the sexism "problem" behind her, and behind us.
(Her speech is kinda corny though)
June 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Back to talking about herself and how historic HER campaign was ... she needs to focus on Obama.
And I take it she is NOT releasing her delegates? That's not good.
June 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
They having been tripping all over themselves to diss HRC for months.I quit watching them because they were so obviously over the top in their coverage of Obama.
June 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"18 million cracks" -- reminding us of all the people who voted for her??? Whether or not she's entitled to "revel," this is excessive.
June 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally, a good comment about "not looking back."
June 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok I dont like this at all.
June 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
tough... this is "our moment"... it is the moment for hillary's supporters to "revel" in what she stands for, and if you obama supporters don't like it, then i guess that's just too bad. you never got why 18 million democrats voted for her anyway.
June 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
But what you stand for is no different in substance from what McCain stands for. Your moment, her moment, is really his moment, is it not?
June 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
you had better hope that you are wrong, because if what she stands for is what mccain stands for, then that means hillary's supporters will be voting for mccain in greater numbers than obama... and that would mean a landslide for mccain, so we all hope that you're just an a**hole and that obama wins despite having supporters like you...
June 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Respectfully, I thought Tuesday night was your collective moment. That was the argument then, anyway.
That said, the speech had some very good parts.
June 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Respectfully, I thought Tuesday night was your collective moment. That was the argument then, anyway.
That said, the speech had some very good parts.
June 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
As she said, don't look back, look to the future. Tuesday is back there. I think she had every right to have her moment today, regardless. I think her supporters deserved the moment too.
She said what she needed, and her and her supporters had their moment too. It's important they have closure and are allowed time to celebrate her candidacy.
I think she hit those notes, while suspending, endorsing, and hitting home why we must all vote for Obama in the fall.
June 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Respectfully, I thought Tuesday night was your collective moment. That was the argument then, anyway.
That said, the speech had some very good parts.
June 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
i didn't realize that you were counting moments... that's a poor use of your time.
but i appreciate your approval of her speech. that is very generous. thank you.
June 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
That last part about "not wasting time looking back" was the best part of her speech. That was obviously very heartfelt. And she ended it with a plea to support Sen. Obama.
June 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greatest line, I too, concur. Their were several great lines in there, "18 million cracks in the glass ceiling" being one of them as well.
June 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not the speech *I* would have written, but it's still in keeping with what she's said so far. I think a complete about face would be suspect - this is course shifting, and I think it will work as a good start. Her behavior the next few months will tell the full story.
June 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
She has yet to whack Mccain once...to me that is not good enough. She needs to focus on why her supporters should vote for Obama and not for Mccsame. Instead it has been mostly about her and her supporters.
June 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Definitely agree. I think that's indicative of her whole campaign, though - unable to see the big picture.
I would have enjoyed a few whacks at McCain.
June 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I too thought, for a sec, she should've attacked McCain more, but then I realized that wasn't the point here. Expect that to come, I'm sure, as we go towards the fall.
She focused on her historic campaign and wooing her supporters to support Obama, as she should've, I think.
No complaints from me. Great speech!
June 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
We've got MONTHS to attack Obama. She had to in this speech argue why Obama in a positive manner and she did it brilliantly. Don't worry Hillary will have plenty of time to lay the smack down on McCain.
June 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll presume that's a typo and you meant "months to attack McCain" at the top. ;) ?
June 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been trying I'e been trying but it's so hard to turn on a dime. Yes of course I mean McCain. Onward to November.
June 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I don't think anyone can expect you to be in the bag for him overnight. We may have our differences about the candidates but we are all on the same side regarding the major issues are nation faces.
High fives all around on a great speech and a great moment from Clinton and for the future, of course!
June 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
A not-too-subtle pitch for VP but that's OK, it's well within her rights to do that. Listening to her I have little doubt she would accept it if offered.
As far as I'm concerned anything she tells her supporters that would make a softer landing for them is fine.
Biggest tipoff statement: "...as we join forces with Senator Obama and his campaign..."
Obama supporters need to be gracious winners now.
June 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do hope some people can now understand why we supporter her.
June 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
There were good parts --- very good parts.
But something was missing. I don't know. Maybe I expected too much.
I know this was an extremely difficult thing for her to have to do. And I know she's not the speaker my candidate is. I'm gonna chalk it up to that and give her my respect, my thanks and best wishes.
June 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
She has earned the right to talk about her campaign. She need not talk about Senator Obama as he is more than able to do that for himself.
She is under no obligation to release her delegates, how they vote from here on out doesn't matter. The issue is decided.
June 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you recall, Tuesday night was the night she "earned" to talk about her campaign.
June 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll do for now, but time will tell.
June 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I reiterate my earlier comments of Keith Olberman. I can't believe how in the tank he is for Obama.
As an Obama guy myself, I think that kind of treatment from the "MSM" will hurt Obama.
June 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
the LA Times agrees with you about Olbermann:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-comment7-2008jun07,0,6590521.story
June 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"McCain to woo Clinton supporters"
I have a mental image of opening the front door and seeing McCain standing there holding a bunch of flowers he snitched from the cemetary, with that eerie grin and huh-huh-huh laugh from his speech on Tuesday. "Hey, baby..."
It's like channeling Stephen King.
'Course I don't really have to worry about this particular scenario because I wasn't a Clinton supporter. But those who were...watch out for that scary, creepy man.
June 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
More like "hey, my friends..."
June 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great speech! Thank you, Senator Clinton!! Genuinely heartfelt and touching. I think she laid out very well and in a powerful matter, why she was in this, who she was fighting for, why she fought so hard, and why we must win in the fall.
I look forward to seeing her on the trail and at the convention, fighting side by side with, and for, Obama in the coming months.
She has done much to assuage the last 3 to 4 months of this hard fought campaign season. I glady welcome and appreciate her and her supporters efforts.
Together we can win this. Thank you, Senator Clinton.
June 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think if she had ended the speech with the lines "that's why we need to elect Barack Obama" and the "yes we can", it would have worked better than sandwiching it in the middle.
She could have begun by thanking her supporters, staff, etc., then talked about how historic her run was and how far women have to go, and then ended with support of Obama and how we need to unite.
But, all in all, I'll give her cudos. That couldn't have been easy.
June 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe I am in the minority here but I jsut did not feel this at all. This was a chance not only to rally the Dems but to make an historical moment people would mark for the ages. A speech that coudl have started with a historic reference from the boats that took slaves from Africa to puritans from Europe to our shores. In the decades that followed African Americans and Women fought for a better America. They fought and passed obstacles we can barely imagine.
Through it all we were told no, it isnt possible it will never happen. Through our independence a brutal civil war, two world wars the backbone of this country was braced by great women and men of all backgrounds from races, cultures and gender.
Now in a time of a tragic war, badly fading economy and massive threat to our environment to people from the legacy of so many that sacrificed so much for us to be here. Barack and Obama and I have smashed through the ceiling of inequity, naysayers and partisan roadblocks to bring hope and change to this country.
I endorse my brother in arms to prove to all yes we can and yes we will make Barack Obama president of the USA....hey maybe I am wrong just my opine
June 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, she's not the speaker Obama is (few are), but it had to be a very difficult speech for her to make. Right now, I am going to take it on faith that she, in turn, speaks in good faith, and wait and see what the future brings.
June 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yeah, Greg. As evidenced by my triple post above, I'm having problems with comments.
June 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
One more point - did anyone notice that while talking about the doubters that a woman could be president, she mentioned winning "primary states"?
If anything should have been added to the speech it is the notion that Obama didn't win fair and square.
June 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is my perspective: what she did today took a lot of guts, and it was fine. Obama supporters should remember that only a few days ago they were outraged that she might take this to Denver.
However her decision is not to do that, and today she ate a lot of humble pie and endorsed Obama.
We as Obama supporters should be happy with that. To quibble about whether she should say this or that, that is petty and ungracious.
Hillary went public that she is now on Obama's side. The target it now McCain, not Hillary. Let's just accept that and move on.
June 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Second. I really liked the speech, and would say it was better than fine, though.
June 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Working class white women love tax cuts for the rich and the war in Iraq.
Make Hillary for the VP and the issue will be mooted.
June 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
IMO, nothing will encourage Hillary supporters to embrace Obama more than a good wooing by creepy 'ole McCain.
June 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree suntzu - the coalescence will happen. This was the critical first step.
Jessran should've written the speech, but it did what was needed. It wasn't Tuesday revisited, it was getting behind Obama.
Time to put Johnny Mac back on the rack.
June 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I simply can't see anyone that really supported Hillary jumping to McCain. He is the anti-Hillary in every way. If someone jumps from her to him, they weren't really hers to begin with.
June 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
let's get real, she has done what she needed to do but it really does not matter for many. we will not vote for OBAMA. i am no longer angry about it. just ready for bush's last day. i can take mccain over bush any day of the week.
June 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
June 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
ohh she was my canadidate and for you to say that just shows how wrong you are. the dems have lost at least 5-15% of hilliary voters. why are you so surprised. we are moderates to conservative dems so what's so hard to understand?
June 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Obama is a moderate himself. No one has to make their decision until fall. Think about. Look over the candidates and decide who has your back. Do you want someone who doesn't understand the economy, lobbyists writing his legislation, and years of war? I hope you will give Senator Obama another shot.
June 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton is not conservative, never has been, never will.
June 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
and lastly before i go ride my horses, i thought obama was Mr. Uniter. it's not hilliary's job to unite the dems. It's his.
June 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's everyone's job in this party to do that. I hope you can get past your anger and join us. Look to future and what we must do in the next 4 to 8 years, not the past. McCain only ensures a continuation of Bush's policies.
June 7, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Michelle, how many horses can you ride at a time?
June 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Senator Clinton's speech was good. She did some better than I expected her to. I don't understand Senator Clinton supporters voting for McCain unless they are racists. I think that is insane. I was a HUGE supporter of Joe Biden and was crushed when he dropped out but I didn't go looking in the Republican party for another candidate to support. Has anyone gotten an explaination for why they are supporting McCain beyond kindergarten like spitefulness?
June 7, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink