O dear.

See, this is when I get emotional and start feeling their pain and hers, too, to a certain extent.

I wish she had gone out shining last night.

I hope their checks clear.

While Larry Johnson sits by his mailbox, waiting for the smear tape that never came...

Doesn't mean a thing about whether she'll try to take it to the convention. Just means there are no more primaries.

I am totally confused..... she has not said whether she is going to conceded or not and yet, she is saying good bye to her staff members.... also on the website called village voice..... these are the statements made today:

“The count is unofficial until the Democratic National Committee certifies this nomination,” said a passionate Clinton Advisor, Ronald Weintraub.And Jon Winkelman added, “The DNC’s rules are very specific about what defines a win and what does not define a win. What defines a win is getting 50 percent plus one of the total delegates certified in Denver. Before that, you haven’t won, And Obama and his supporters should remember a lot of us are keeping our options open,”.

Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe, however, remained resolutely defiant when questioned how he could envision a win in the midst of reports that Obama had effectively already won, according to the news media.

“If I worried about what the press said every night,” he countered, “we would have stopped a couple of months ago. Every time they told Hillary Clinton it was over, she continued to win.”

And Superdelegates who say she should take it to the convention are: New York Governor David Paterson, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH), Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), Congresswoman Nydia Velázquez (D-NY), New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, and New York City Councilmember Bill DeBlasio.

I am a hillary supporter, but she is giving me a headache..... She is starting to piss me off..... its fucking time to conceded...... so we can win this november.... I hope she hurrys to fuck up.....:)

Rezco Verdict in soon, looks like Oilbama's buddy is going down! Maybe he can throw Oilbama under the bus to get leniency.

I just figured something out with these stories on Hillary today...she has a disbilty we didn't know about...she is hearing impaired in that she just didn't hear that Barack won...I mean he really won the nomination Hillary. Let's sign for her....middle finger raised in line of her sight!

Nice one, Bertrand! The "blub blub" had me rolling!

I was talking to a friend early today and told her I thought Hillary had overplayed her hand with the speech last night. It seems from the various quotes we've been hearing all day from her supporters and party leaders that I may have been right. I have to say, I find this latest behavior the most confusing of all.

When someone's in the middle of a campaign, it's a different dynamic, and while I became very disillusioned with Hillary over many of her actions, I still told myself she would be different once it was all over. Kind of like lawyers who go at each other all day in court, but get along fine outside the courtroom. At least that was my expectation.

At this point, Hillary damages herself, her legacy, and whatever real influence she imagines herself to have. The party has clearly moved on from the Clinton era sooner than expected, and certainly sooner than she wanted. But move on it has.

She missed a golden opportunity to be gracious and bring the party together last night. She would have been seen as a respected party elder, and someone who could wield heavy influence to see those issues she cared about brought to the forefront.

Instead, I fear she is treading dangerously close to disgruntled postal worker.

Fairbrooks,

To be nice to Hillary once, I actually give her credit for her speech last night. Not the tone of it, but because she had her present supporters in mind. Remember, they had no idea Obama had clinched it yet. I know they should have seen it coming from the predictions all day yesterday, but most of them were in that room literally all day and no clue what was happening outside.

She gave the speech she did to keep things calm and upbeat for the cameras instead of humiliating everyone in front of the entire world.

Kash,

OMG, I said the same thing last night when Lanny Davis was on Larry King's show! Talk about irony...him standing there being defiant about her still being in the race, while in the background the stage was noisily being torn down.

Talk about foreshadowing.

Mr. Johnson, one of Hillary's main backers, told us today that Hillary gave him the go ahead, over a month ago, to push her for the VP slot. That means that she knew back then that she was not going to win the nomination, so to now excuse her churlish behavior last night, by saying that she did not yet know that Senator Obama would be the nominee, is absurd.

Hmmm...the WARN Act requires 60 days prior notification of mass layoffs.

One more time:

Clinton won the popular vote.

The gang of Obama gamed the system and lynched her at the Rules Committee and made this nomination a sham.

McCain ain't no saint.
Obama ain't no leader.

Sit out the election.

Clinton conceding legitimizes Obama's nomination.

Clinton still controls the narrative.

Did you just use the term lynch in relation to this election?

What is wrong with you people?

Please,please, find a new home. All of us Democrats are trying to work together here.

Maybe the reason she will not concede is that, psychologically, she "can't;" maybe it's this simple:
As bizarre as it is, maybe Hillary Clinton, age 60, woman of the world, simply cannot,at this point in her life, acknowledge any external "authority" -- aka concession to Obama -- because, on some murky level, she equates it in a crazy way with experiences of male exploitation or domination.
(Stay with me now: I can hear y'all howling already.)
Maybe her Dad was a serious authoritarian,in addition to being a drunk, and survival as a child -- despite her intelligence and strong will -- depended on knuckling under. She would have hated that.
Then, for completely predictable reasons, she married Bill -- thinking she had married the opposite of her father, because Bill was mild-mannered (then) and thoughty. What a nightmare for her to discover that Bill was just a more sophisticated kind of bully, one who engaged in passive-aggression, rather than full out assault. And she was, she thought, powerless; her "survival"(in terms of the marriage, of her political ambitions) depended, not only on aligning herself with her abuser, but actually defending him.
With all these primal resentments boiling, underneath her facade, how can she, now, in a heartbeat, pivot to cede to Obama? She is screaming a Munsch scream inside, while the "right" thing to do recedes into the background.
So, call it narcissism. Call it arrested development. Call it what you will. Whatever, it has led to her having a pathological issue with saying anything remotely like: "I made a mistake;" or "I'm sorry"... or "You win."
Does this excuse her? NO WAY. But it does make some sense of all her denial and consequent self-sabotaging behavior.
Go ahead, call me a Hillary fan, when I am absolutely NOT. Nor, by the way, am I one of her demented feminist, do or die zealots.
Your thoughts?

I just went to her website and left a comment, saying it was time to fold the tent and work together. Unfortunately, the first page is designed to encourage diehard supporters--stand with Hillary--be on of 18 million. No subtlety here.

I noted that the 18 million is a composite of multiple moments not a fixed entity. California and New Jersey would apparently be rather different now!

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An MSNBC analyst just quoted a Hillary insider saying she won't concede until early next week. Oh, my gosh.

The knot in my stomach is clinching tighter almost every hour. Has she seriously lost it? Does she have a mental condition? This is a genuine question on my part.

Yes, she said good-bye to most of her staff today, but on one of the shows this morning, Wolfson wouldn't acknowledge a newspaper headline saying Obama had won the nomination.

Most unsettling.

ABC calls it for Friday.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4705151&page=1

The thing is this: Hillary is probably going to talk to Obama soon. He will, I hope, tell her to take herself out of the running for the Veep slot.

She really doesn't have any leverage. Her 18 million votes are going to melt away fast. 17 million of them would vote for Obama over McCain tomorrow anyway, no matter what she does. Of the rest, most would come along by November. Hillary would not help Obama win a single state, and might cost him a couple, like IA and CO and VA.

to the kool aid-soaked habitues of this board, you got your messiah -- michael dukakis. you all, including sebelius, mccaskill, oprah and mrs. ahnold must now have the courage of your convictions to work tirelessly to prevent hillary clinton from inclusion in the democratic ticket. you could not countenance staining the redeemer for some crass motivation such as getting that solitary shot at victory in november, would you? thought so. put sebelius on the ticket, or that linda hunt impersonator napolitano. better still get judas... err... richardson. remember the prime qualification is that she/he should not bring out the angry grimace out of michelle (sadly, not hard to do -- good luck!). cindy, drop the prozac and go measure the white house drapes.

you see how gracious the brother was, even after all the mud slung at him by the clinton campaign?

just imagine how much more generous and inclusive he would have been had hillary run an honorable campaign.

this should have been a huge mutual lovefest & celebration of the 2 campaigns' dual victories over sexism and racism.

dude would have made ALL democrats feel like they were winners, no matter who they backed in the primaries.

sadly, hillary led her own supporters down that bitter path. she robbed them of both victories, and some may be too embittered to vote D come november, losing a 3rd.

WTF sour grapes? hillary's campaign proves a woman can win the presidency, but it'll have to be some other woman...