Hillary Holding Private Conference Call With Top Fundraisers On Thursday*
This one bears watching: Hillary is set to hold a private conference call with her top fundraising leadership on Thursday evening.
A source forwards me the email from her national finance director, Jonathan Mantz, inviting the money people on to the call. The email says that she wants to thank them for their "dedication and commitment" to her candidacy.
But the real question is what she'll say to them about Obama -- how strongly she'll signal to her top money people that it's time to get serious about throwing their fundraising weight behind the Illinois Senator.
Obama himself wants this. He is privately signaling to Hillary's top supporters that the time for them to start helping build a fearsome general election war-chest to take on the McCain-GOP apparatus is right now.
We'll bring you details on the call if we can get them.
Late Update: I'm told by a Clinton source that she will be using the call to urge her top fundraisers to throw their energy behind Obama.
* Late Late Update: A source tells me that the call has now been rescheduled for Thursday; I've edited the above to reflect this.















No more Hillary news unless something happens!
Greg, this is the kind of post that gets you accused of things around here. This is a post giving us a heads up that Hillary is going to call and thank her fundraisers?! Maybe she'll say something about Obama? Well, if there's news, how about reporting it then?
Until then, I'd love to stop viewing this election through the lens of Hillary Clinton.
June 16, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
you guys have to understand something. Obama's people care about this. A lot. They want her money people to help them raise money. Therefore, this post is actually viewing the election through the lens of Barack Obama.
If you don't like it, take it up with his people. Tell them they're wrong to care about it. Tell them they're wrong to think this is news.
June 16, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
What does it matter what they think? There's still NO NEWS IN THIS POST.
All you've done is post a story about a call with no idea of what will take place in the call. It doesn't matter what others think - you're the editor here and you get to report on election news. This doesn't qualify.
June 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Come back to us after the conference call, otherwise this post is just speculation.
June 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh, come on. we're letting you know that something is happening in the future worth keeping an eye out for, something that could have potential ramifications for Obama depending on what's said. not every post has to be huge news. this is a blog, for God's sake.
June 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
i tihnk greg is right to report this. it IS in our best interest to let us know that hillary fundraisers are having a conference call. and greg is RIGHT about obama ppl wanting this.
greg is just giving us a heads up about it. i think some ppl are overreacting. and i say this as someone who has disagreed with greg over some postings, esp. that recent post about hillary's sexism.
keep posting greg!! thanks for the information!!!
June 16, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know you're perceiving it that way, but to be quite frank, we get a lot of speculation from the traditional media outlets, and I personally would prefer some facts in place first about a candidate's motive before speculating about such motive.
*sigh*
June 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough. But TPM in general positions itself more as a news outlet. As the editor of a news blog, surely there were more substantive items to cover? You have the right to cover what you like, but many of us come here for substantive news items and, as consumers of this blog, we are able to complain with the direction it sometimes takes.
Here's a topic: how about the fact that McCain said he'd lift the moratorium on oil and natural gas exploration today? And how does that fit in with his goal of trying to position himself as a moderate on climate change?
Just throwing that out there as a suggested topic. There are plenty of others.
But you're the editor.
June 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the fact that McCain got confused on his own policy---not even mentioned here at TPM!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/McCain_muffs_description_capandtrade.html
June 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, this is something to watch. If y'all think posts like this are so unimportant, why spend so much time and energy commenting on them? Just askin'.
June 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh come on..its a fluff piece. the fact you write a blog and excuse your "fluffyness" because its a blog, is definatly unfair to the bloggers that have worked very hard to help sort out the BS from the mainstream media. Why do you bother writing anything with this attitude?
June 17, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Think of this as a heads up memo to people who are reporting on the election. It's exactly the kind thing that as a reporter I would have gotten from an editor, or as an editor would have sent to a reporter. It just happens to be transparent, to the whole readership. Transparency is good, right?
June 17, 2008 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
p.s.
Did you give over editorial responsibility to these "Obama people?"
June 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, this post would have been better if it wasn't full of speculation. Find out the details of the conference call first, and then report on that, which makes your reporting stronger.
June 16, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree unless she actually campaigning for Obama these hillary stories are irrelevant
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/bring-it-on-gop/
June 16, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg...it pains me to see that you listen to the drooling Obama fanboy whiners here. If you're not worshipping the ground Obama walks on like they do, it's not news to them. It's that simple.
If they could, they'd change TPM into a Tiger Beat site for Obama.
June 16, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sun rises in the east! Rays fall on HRC's house first? We'll report it when we know!
---Your TPM Election Central staff
June 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, When are you going to report on the really important stuff; such as when Hillary will be having her next pantsuit fitting, or when her next hairstylist appointment is going to be?
You are falling down on the job. Clinton crack
addicts are suffering severe withdrawal sympthoms
because you just are not fully feeding their habit.
June 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh? Who cares? I thought they were all taking a break because they were too tired - clinton code for don't help obama, we're going for 2012.
Oh, I got another headline for you greg. Obama only leads mcbush by 19 points in NY, Clinton needed on the ticket!!!! NY in jeapordy without the clintons. OOOOHHHH NOOOOO!
One other thing on the alleged sexist coverage. I heard a woman pundit complaining about the use of clinton's first name by the media. Claimed it was sexist. Too funny.
June 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, talk about irony. Now Greg will have to add himself to his post detailing all of the ways that the media was sexist with regard to its HRC campaign coverage.
That's gonna hurt...
June 16, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never said the coverage was sexist, just unfair
June 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
My bad, I stand corrected.
You will have to add yourself to the "cackle" section of the sexist portion of your "unfair" post. Which makes you yourself "unfair" to HRC. That also is gonna hurt, I suspect.
June 16, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
actually, I pointed out in a post that new yorkers oppose her on the ticket
June 16, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went through the archives and I can't find it. I remember reading it though and if I recall correctly, the headline was that obama bests mcbush in ny and there was a one liner about ny dems not wanting her on the ticket with obama. Interesting thought on that one liner, is her senate seat in jeopardy in 2012? Could be. I'll contribute and help out any primary challengers.
Comeon greg. Fess up. What's the gig? I've been following this site for over a year and its always been clintons are wonderful 24/7. It's over and alot of us are dying to figure out why the clinton slant.
June 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You gotta be kidding me?
As in HILLARY was on her sign (to distinguish herself from being "Clinton"?)
Of course, if she really was really worried about confusion, she could have gone by as
Hillary Rodham
Of course, that pesky name recognition was useful, wasn't it?
I wonder what that pundit would say about referring to the current president as "W"?
June 16, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not kidding. She was from a woman's organization and it floored me, because I had raised the issue before and got smacked down for it. I actually believe that referring to her by her first name is sexist and demeaning. I don't care what she puts on her buttons and signs. The media should be professional and refer to her as clinton or senator clinton at least, not "hillary." They don't call the other candidates normally by their first name. Also, I believe that it demeans the presidency.
In fact, I find it amusing that she allegedly was "trying to distinguish" herself from clinton I, when at the same time she was running on the alleged record. Totally hilarious when you think about it.
June 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow really witty. Because people have suggested that he needs Hillary to win New York!
June 17, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
May I refer you to:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/are-you-as-fed-up-with-tpm-as.php
Until your next gossip about Hillary, I remain,
Yours respectfully,
June 16, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary who?
June 16, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!11!!!
June 16, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I received another appeal for contributions from her campaign, moments ago, in the guise of fotos from the campaign.
June 16, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
my point being, maybe she'll eb hitting them up for more debt-settling cash.
June 16, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It doesn't matter, the majority of her fundraisers aren't waiting for her to give the green light to support Obama, most everyone has already come over to Obama. Furthermore, Obama has shown he doesn't need them. So I don't think this call is all that important. She is probably just going to hit them up to pay off her debts to herself.
June 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Define unfair. Sargent throws that word around. What the hell does he mean. Unfair compared to what and who, and how does he measure it?
June 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm told by a Clinton source that she will be using the call to urge her top fundraisers to throw their energy behind Obama.
I'll be adding that as an update to the post soon.
June 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can add that a well-connected insider (Desidero) has determined that the Solis-Doyle appointment is a prelude to Hillary's entering the race as VP candidate, just in time to get the donors lined up and end the June slump. Due to Solis-Doyle's long-term familiarity with Ms. Clinton's staffing and operations requirements, she has been put in charge of making sure the transition and ramp-up go smoothly. When asked about Ms. Solis-Doyle's apparent weaknesses in strategy as exhibited in the Clinton campaign, an Obama operative is rumored to have chuckled, "Don't worry, we'll be taking care of that part now".
June 16, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't tell the snark (aside from insider) - most are saying Doyle a slap & signal no-Clinton-go - seeing as how she's not spoken to anyone in the campaign incl the Sen. since her ousting. That your point?
June 17, 2008 2:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, it will be a textbook Billary "urge" -- lots of winks, caveats, hints that they'd be throwing their money away.
Meanwhile isn't it astounding how quickly this mendacious and crass candidate has dropped from the news (except among her suckling sucker-uppers and pissed off sex-starved hausfrau's) -- one literally cannot find her name is any respectable newspaper. It's pure bliss for those who believe the Democratic Party is way way better off without the Clintons screwing around in the wings.
June 17, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
"A source"? who would that be ;-)
June 16, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sheesh, another post with 'her' name in the headline, didn't she lose? Where are the posts for all the other losing candidates reporting what they're up to today?
June 16, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just received this note from Hillary:
Will keep you informeda as new details come in
FULL DISCLOSURE - On the day she quit, I gave Hillary ten bucks to help repair my political karma
June 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, that's the one I got. When you view the online album there is a huge "CONTRIBUTE" button.
June 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love the karma line. Too funny. I totally am on the karma bandwagon as well, but I guess I'm too cheap and I couldn't stomach giving the clintons a dime. Too funny though.
June 16, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah we don't want to hear anything about coming events so no more talk about the election just come back and give us the results when available.
June 16, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was never a fan of Ms. Clinton, but if, as Greg reports, that "she will be using the call to urge her top fundraisers to throw their energy behind Obama," then I'm all for her move. A united party going into November is nothing but good news.
June 16, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I found this information to be interesting and helpful. Thanks for reporting it, Greg.
June 16, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg:
Didn't you exactly post the same news couple of weeks back? She was urging her supporters and she's still urging her supporters. What's new?
June 16, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zippo. She's urging her diehard supporters to support the clintons' 2012 effort and that's about it. Screw the democrats and obama, they want them to lose. 2012 or bust for the clintons.
June 16, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
I swear this is bizarro-TPM.
June 16, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is Hillary always urging her supporters in Private. Why not just keep saying so in Public so that all her supporters get the message, or is she afraid that they just then might actually rally behind Senator Obama? All of this leaking about what Hillary is going to say in such a hush hush, and completely confidential way, is taking on the appearance of Kabuki Theater, full of veiled whispers and masked shape shifting, signifying nothing.
June 16, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I think that Clinton is still newsworthy, I do agree that the private element to these "urgings" is a little troubling. What I'd like to see her do is register for an account at Hillaryis44 and a few other blogs, and give them a talking-to, explaining why they must all support Obama in the general.
But all of the threats to vote McCain or to write-in Clinton may blow over pretty quickly now as the general campaign gears up. It really seems that most of her supporters have already returned to their roots and now support Obama and the Dems anyway.
June 18, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not really.
June 16, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or perhaps bears need watching...
In addition to being the #1 Threat to America, according to Dr. Stephen Colbert, DFA, I hear the bears are all in the tank for Obama anyway. It's all due to his being a time travelling socialist muslim space-cowboy that his hometown got a sports team named after his future ursine constituents.
June 17, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Greg, and Eric, should let the Clinton stories lie for awhile. The reason being all the animosity that it still stirs up. Look down a couple postings to the post about the media and the candidates. 237, mostly angry posts on that one. Greg and Eric should do like Clinton and lie low. She's staying out of the spotlight and they should let her. It's still too soon. It's too soon for post-mortems on the campaign, too soon to rehash the fucked up shit that went on, and too in the moment to make "will she or won't she" speculations.
Focus on Obama and McCain. Yes, things might be going on with Clinton, but it is just too soon.
Stop. picking. at. the. scabs.
thanks
June 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg must think he's going to get a better reception over at Huffington:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/16/clinton-holding-private-c_n_107468.html
June 16, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
So far, it's not.
June 16, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the chuckle, jb. Much appreciated.
Perhaps Greg will come to understand from the HuffPo responses that we really are not all out to get him here in the comments at TPM, just desperately tired of the non-stop HRC updates and shilling. And we are not alone in that.
Perhaps not.
June 16, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, could we get a full transcript of this meeting when it takes place?
there are also no posts about what Hillary is doing from now until Wednesday. please keep us updated to her schedule in those intervening days, preferably a single post at a time so we could get the full impact of just how hard-working she is.
remember, Greg, that no detail of Hillary Clinton's life and goals is too small for us to pass over. everything she does is significant and newsworthy. this goes DOUBLE when you include all the things you would expect a losing candidate to do for the presumptive nominee of their party. she should get EXTRA credit for doing all of the things she's supposed to do, like telling her supporters to raise money for the nominee.
maybe an extra post is in order to analyze how much credit she is receiving from the media for doing what she is expected to do already?
June 16, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you dare Hillary!!
We will not vote for that FRAUD obama!@!
Dammit!! We will not support him !
You shouldn't do that Hillary!!
June 16, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, grow up.
June 17, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
No.. look, I want to know that the call is taking place, what I don't want is the ridiculous speculation. I expect that from the MSM but not Talking Points Memo. Of coarse she is going to speak highly of Obama and encourage them to throw money behind him. As memory serves she has done this already.
I was as anti-Hillary as anybody because of the kind of campaign she had run but at this point we all know what's going on. She is taking it all in and accepting things and is beginning work for Obama. Get off her back.
June 16, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Hillary's tough" -Barack O'Bama - Detroit MI
So is Patti Solis-Doyle her new COS?
June 16, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm actually happy to hear what she's up to. I didn't like the "analysis" of Hillary's media coverage - that was BS on so many levels, but at least this is a factoid. It probably could have waited until the call actually occurred though (now Greg is going to get flamed for reporting the actual results of the call tomorrow).
Personally, I was wondering if she was MIA. I didn't expect her to hit the trail with Obama, but it really felt like she whipped up all this hate and anger, gave a quickie speech, and left all that angst just floating. It sort of seemed like she wasn't doing diddly/squat to help Obama deal with it. If that's not the case than I'm glad to hear it.
Greg: IMO, you are suffering a backlash from this morning's ... uummmm ... you know .... "analysis" (as well you should)
June 16, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shut the f*ck up about Clinton already.
June 16, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
All this baying at the moon is vacuous and tiresome.
June 16, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow Greg, it must suck to have these annoying people as your readers, actually it must suck to hate your own readers. What a bunch of whiny brats! How dare you write about Hillary WHA!!!! She and her 18 million voters left the race over a WEEK (forevah ago!) ago damn it. I mean, shes still got millions of supporters, holds good chunck of parties fundraising apparatus, but you're actually explaining yourself to these fools in the comment section? Don't become hostage to the legions of HRC haters...
June 16, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
not to mention you wrote about the FACTS in media coverage, while constantly saying you didnt say she faced MORE or less buit that she did face some unfair treatment. wow it amazes me the hatred and irrationality of the readers of this blog. Dailykos is so much better, the BO supporters there are respectful and actually respect Hillary when she does something good like call her fundraisers to support Obama... these people are off the wall....
June 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of my favorite things in the world is watching everyone here beat up on poor Greg like he's the scrawny kid in the 3d grade dodgeball game who everybody's after because he throws like a girl and pees sitting down. Invariably, Greg will chime in with some earnest sounding defense along the lines of "aww, come on you guys! I'm just trying to do some reporting here, and besi -- hey!! Give me my lunch money back!!"
In reality, poor Greg's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't because all the Obamamaniacs here are just looking for a Hillary surrogate with an actual face that they can antagonize. Anyway, it's a thoroughly enjoyable routine -- keep it up everybody!
June 16, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know what?
McCain is more relevant to this election now that Hillary and I daresay many will give a good vehement reaction to a story about him.
Oh, well. At least you have a cool moniker.
June 16, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Except Greg is totally cute so not at all like the scrawny kid ;-)
June 17, 2008 12:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think we're missing the fact that Greg has good "sources" in the Hillary campaign and hates to waste them, even though the campaign itself is extinct. What's the point of getting reports from your contacts if you're not going to get any use out of them?
So it's understandable that every third or fourth item on Election Central is about a candidate who is no longer in a race that many of us consider to be -- entirely apart from the Clintons -- the most crucial in generations. (Though, if one wanted to meddle in Greg's career strategy, one might suggest that all the effort might be better applied to cultivating sources in the two ongoing campaigns, the choice between which is going to decide the fate of many.)
June 17, 2008 5:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seems like a valid news item to me. The Obama people have been thrashing over "what will Hillary do? what does Hillary want?" for weeks. Now we start to see some reporting of the answers and the O'bots carp, with too much protest, that Hillary gets too much attention (wee bit insecure about O, are we?). Imagine if weeks past and nothing was heard from Hillary's camp. You can hear it now: "Why aren't you reporting on Hillary just sitting on her rump while O needs party unity? Typical Hillary, typical TPM, covering up for Hillary - in the tank for her - knew it all along."
O people: lighten up, your guy won and will be president, probably. Hopefully, Hillary will be his VP.
June 17, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unhinged!
June 18, 2008 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've been a strong Obama supporter for quite a while now, and was angry myself about a lot that went on during the primary campaign, but I wish my fellow Obama fans would cool it with the Hillary snark. It's just totally divisive, counter-productive and petty. Let's move on.
June 18, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink