No, she hasn't gone negative, but she sure has been wasting her supporters' money

This mailer makes one VERY dubious claim:

"Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President"

Has the printer been paid? Has Penn's firm who paid the postage been reimbursed?

Just heard this:

"Virgin Islands superdelegate who originally supported Obama has switched over to the Clinton camp. “I decided to switch because that's my right," Kevin Rodriguez said. "I don't want to say why I decided. It's not about me ... It's about America and what's best for America." "

Yeahaiiahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

RAEKa is actually that Clinton supporter caught on video at the RBC meeting this weekend.

Here's what I want to know: why haven't more polls of Montana and South Dakota been done? I mean, given the populations in the state, polling outfits probably could have contacted every family...

And when I saw the "She won't back down", I immediately thought "Tom Petty", and followed quickly by "wife beater".

this actually happened a week ago

it seemed odd because it was reported rather late at night by abc, i spent all next day looking for this defection and found only 2 other sources that say this happened

they must have realized the mistake of moving him back over at an earlier time then was intended... and tried to quiet this down

I think his quote makes you wonder about this guy

i want to know how big his bank account just got lol

its another silly tactic by the clintons at best

he switches, and then switches back a week later

lol

doh meant to make my post a reply to the repub

Tomorrow can't come soon enough.

And I'll give Hill these props: That's a great picture of her.

The headline says she "drops" the ad. No. Dropping would be discontinuing it or canceling it.

Find a verb a better verb to use, one that doesn't say the opposite of what you mean.

Places ... Launches ... Buys ...

Please say what you mean.

kensdad:

she's still getting disrespected on the "internets".

Disrespected?

She is a public servant. The respect works the other way. It is supposed to flow from servants to the public. And Camp Hillary is floating lies about the popular vote totals. It is a meaningless pseudo metric. And they are using it in a blatantly disrespectful way. When a loser shovels mendacious bullshit in your face one is under no obligation to respect them for it...

Second, none of us are under any need to dial back our "rhetoric," and kiss your queen's ass because Barack needs her 17 million voters.

That's lame-brained for three reasons:

1) I represent myself. I am not a spokesperson for Barack Obama. And unless someone died and left you blog moderator, you've got no right to usurp the helm around here. Certainly, your weak arguments don't win you that right.

2) The vast majority of Clinton voters will vote for Barack Obama in November. Pretending what I or anybody else writes here will effect those numbers is "hillarious."

3) Once your queen admits defeat the rhetoric will die on its own accord. Trying to play the traffic cop ahead of that fact... is just major-leage dumb.

anyone know what the DNC meeting is about in New York on Wednesday? Obama is going, and Hillary is going to be in New york.

Has this meeting been on the schedule as an end of the race "where are we" kind of thing?

Laugh and celebrate now you lefty wingnuts for next November it will be YOU ranting and raving and crying and I will be LAUGHING.

It's almost worth it to see how Obama will go down in FLAMES.

Kensdad,

I appreciate you calling for calm and respect from Obama supporters. I don't want you to take the following personally, however. I would like for you to consider why so many Obama supporters feel outrage not only at Clinton, but at those who continue to support her.

1) Sexism claim: At no time has Obama or any of his supporters suggested she should drop out of the race; or take a secondary role because she is a woman. Nor as Obama or any of his supporter said that one should not vote for Clinton because she is a woman, or should vote for Obama because he is a man. The same cannot be said about Clinton or her supporters.

2) Race-baiting: This really didn't start with Bill in SC. It started with Clinton and her dismissive comparison in NH. The one where she said MLK didn't really bring about civil rights, it was LBJ. Not only did this completely re-write a major piece of American History; but it dismissed all efforts of oppressed minorities to influence individuals of the oppressing majority to stop oppressing them; while casting Obama as the feckless MLK (in Clinton's revisionist narrative) and herself as the stalwart and heroic LBJ - champion of equality (again in Clinton's revisionist narrative). It continued up through the KY primary with her 'hard working white Americans' comment - a thinly veiled appeal on race (Vote for me, I'm white too) while making (perhaps unintended) the subtextual statement that Americans who are not white are not hardworking.

3)States that don't matter: Lets see, the tally is small states (unless they vote for Clinton, i.e. WV & KY); states that have caucuses (unless they vote for Clinton, i.e. NV); red states (unless they vote for Clinton, i.e. WV, KY, TX); territories (unless they vote for Clinton, i.e. PR); any state where Obama gets the majority white vote (i.e. ID, WI, OR, WA, CO).

4)Count all the votes: Except those who voted uncommitted because it was how their own party told them to vote to register a vote for either Obama, Edwards, or any other candidate except Clinton, Dodd, and Kucinich; or wrote it their candidate's name (as 30K people did in MI); or if they didn't vote because they were told the contest would not count; or they voted in a caucus (they only contest their state had); or if they voted in AVI; and on and on and on.

5)Zimbabwe & Assassination comments: no explanation needed I hope.

6)Continuing to run a negative divisive campaign long after she had any realistic chance at the nomination.

7)Media bias claim: for 11 of the 15 months of this campaign the media meme has been 'Clinton the Inevtiable'; 'Clinton the Invincible'. The media bought and sold Clinton's characterization of Obama as unexperienced; her claim to 35 years of service when at least 16 of those years were as First Lady of AR or the US; her attacks regarding Rezko without referencing Clinton's own links to Rich, Hsu, and others; Clinton's attack on Ayers without pointing out Clinton's own stronger ties to the Weather Underground and her husband's pardoning FALN terrorists. In all; even if one concedes a media bias since Jan. 5; you have twice as long of a period in which Clinton was the media darling; and one can hardly claim the media as been unwilling to publish and repeat Clinton's media messages.

8) Continuing into June argument: Clinton again engaged in historical revisionism. Bill had wrapped up the nomination long prior to June in CA in '92; CA simply happened to be the state that put him over the top as no other candidate had a path to the nomination; '68 the turmoil of LBJ not running for re-election combined with the primary season not beginning until March; the fact that there were far fewer delegates left to be elected from May - June 2008 than in any prior year.

9) Kool-aid: The statements and demogoguery of Clinton and her supporters has been at least as insulting and disrepectful as anything coming from Obama supporters and was started by the Clinton camp from the top down with Clinton and her over-the-top OH speech which suggested that both Obama and those who support him on the policies, positions, and politics he proposes were engaging in some kind of collective delusion.

10) Supporters who refuse to see that the spendthrift; reckless; inconstant; inchoate; incorherent fashion in which Clinton has run her campaign demonstrates her patent insuitability for the office of President of the United States of America.

These are the arguments why I see Clinton as self-interested, self-promoting, and willing to 'do anything; or say anything to become president'. These are the reasons I bristle at Clinton supporters who protest the various injustices and inequities their candidate has suffered. These are the reasons, when added with the unapologetic and unrepentent attacks on Obama and his supporters by Clinton and her supporters; I find little sympathy for anyone who then complains about the treatment their own attacks bring down on them.

As I said at the beginning, none of the above is directed at you personally. The only posts that I have seen from you that stick out in my memory are these where you take a reasoned and calm approach to the matter at hand. I have not personally done much to reach out to Clinton supporters because everytime I have tried to suggest that it was time to heal the party, and to let bygones be bygones, I have been subjected to abuse and insults and suggestions that I was a sexist counter-racist lotus eater who was too stupid to know that Obama was going to destroy the Democratic Party.

Frankly, until more of the Clinton camp come willing to discuss how they can help the Democratic nominee defeat McCain in November (without caveats, or demands for preferential treatment); I can't muster much in the way of patience for cries of disrespect and attacks that those of us who have supported Obama are the ones dividing the party.

So, when you and your fellow Clinton supporters are willing to lay down your attacks and work to undue the harm your candidate has wrought; nothing those of us who support Obama can do will bridge the divide.

Hillary is running because she actually won -- popular vote and electoral votes by any realistic measure -- by general election count or by the Republican’s formula. Obama's win by the democratic formula is an artificial one …. based on convoluted and yes undemocratic rules. Yes rule are rules .. but in the end democracy should triumph. That is paramount. ( Also, in their desperation to win Obama camp prevented FL and MI re-votes .. there was no rules against re-vote). That, the Obamaniacs cannot understand because they truly do not believe in HOPE. Hillary represents the hopes and aspiration of the people -- especially the underprivileged. The Obama people cannot understand that .. actually they understand that but want to ram through a false victory quickly before people realize how false their victory is. The Obama charade will be exposed by the Republicans (whose hands are not tied behind their backs like the Clintons’ were).

I agree, the imposter Obama will be crushed. Canoot stand Michele Obma as the first Lady... first maid maybe