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Hillary Campaign Downplays Reports That She Said She'd Be "Open" To Being Veep

Camp Hillary is pushing back against reports that Hillary told New York legislators on a conference call that she'd be "open" to being Obama's vice president.

Here's the statement from her campaign:

"Today on a conference call with New York legislators, Senator Clinton was asked whether she was open to the idea of running as Vice-President and repeated what has said before: she would do whatever she could to ensure that Democrats take the White House back and defeat John McCain."

The Hillary camp claims that her questioner was the one who asked whether she was open to it. But the AP specifically quoted Hillary as follows...

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November.

Of course, the AP sourced this direct quote from Hillary to an anonymous participant on the call. And it needs to be reiterated that the AP's track record today has been less than sterling.

A broader point here: The pressure on the news orgs is ordinarily intense enough on normal days to be first with literally any shard of info, no matter how trivial or poorly sourced, that purports to shed light on what Hillary is thinking or what she will do. But this has reached absurd and truly grotesque proportions today.

Hence the increased likelihood of journalistic train-wrecks. Not that anyone seems to care about said train-wrecks, of course. Folks are too busy chasing the next story.


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Why? Begging suited her.

These poll results definitely agree with that. And, this site just started a Vice President poll, so help your candidate decide who to nominate!

http://www.votenic.com

Votenic.com also holds a 2008 Presidential Election Weekly Poll.
The results from each week are posted every Wednesday evening, so get your vote in for the week!

Well, since it will HURT the party's prospects, so much for that.

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Has there ever been a campaign so completely aweful at message discipline?

Chris Matthews just called her VP pleas "the biggest big foot in history."

So typically Clinton

Me me me me me me me me me me me! Don't forget MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Ain't it the truth...

Hillary: "I MUST remain in the spotlight for all those people in the dark who need me"

Drama Drama Drama... ME ME ME

Sigh... I want to know where I can ship the tonne of bricks I have.

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it seems to me that the Clinton campaign for the past two weeks has made their campaign message to just deny or "push back" or whatever you call it against whatever the news media says. even if its true.. they just dont want the press to state the truth before they do.. so they deny it.. its kinda funny to watch.. whatever report comes from the AP or clinton surrogates, or campaign officials, or anyone..they immediately deny its true...

wierdos.

Where is dijamo to blame this story on Obama?

Damn you! Shhhhhhhhhhhh.

[big grin]

This one is the stupid ass press misinterpreting a quote. The "leak" to AP from capiagn officials about Hillary conceding tonight - all Obama's campaign trying to pressure super dels to declare before voting was over today - like Jimmy Carter who said that he would endorse Obama after voting was over or others who said they were waiting for Hillary to concede before declaring. And just in case there was a surprise and Hillary made it a close race in SD or MT he could go out on a high. Real classy! And way to unify the party!

12 more to go!

please,
just stop it. please. Have you never heard that there is something to be gained by being gracious in defeat?
Ok the primary is over. Your candidate lost.
How do you recover so that you can go about the business of building a winning team for November?. Or have you been ruined for life at the tender age of 31? Take a moment to exhale and imagine that the next things you say won't happen under some anonymous post. Imagine you are in front of the nation, your parents, children, and friends. That the next thing you say will be attributed to you forever. What message do you want to send? What words can you offer that will help us perfect our union?
Losing is a part of life. A very important part if one is competitive enough to be the best. How you handle it, how you grow or regress because of it will impact every facet of your life. So here you are. The world is waiting.....what do you have to say?

Allow me to answer for dijamo.

"Obama is a fraud. Take it to Denver!"

hey hype I really hope that's not so.

It was her response after the RBC.

Prior to that she repeatedly said she was going to write-in Hillary because she lived in NYC and knew it wouldn't matter but if she lived in a swing state she'd vote for Obama.

I don't think that's the case any longer.

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HOT OFF THE PRESSES (demconwatch.com):

"Update: The Obama Campaign has just issued a press release with 10 additional Edwards delegates that have switched their vote to Obama. We are working with Green Papers to make an update."

Woooo-fucking-hoooooooo!!!!!!!!

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Separately (also from demconwatch.com):

Reported upcoming endorsements: Sen Herb Kohl (WI), Rep. Jerry McNerney (CA), DNC Ralph Dawson (NY), Gov. Bill Ritter (CO), Sen Ken Salazar (CO), Gov. Brian Schweitzer (MT), Sen. Max Baucas (MT), Sen. Jon Tester (MT), Dennis McDonald (MT) and Margaret Campbell who endorsed Obama but had to back down due to her vice-chair position in the Montana Democratic Party."

WOW!!!!

Please don't hump the mailman's leg!

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Uh, um, sorry. Too late.

Unbelievable until the bitter end. First she loses, and she offers him the VP slot. Then she's really done, and tells us all she wants it... Sorry, dear, Sen. Obama, for EARNIGN the nomination, has EARNED the right to select his own nominee. BTW, if she cannot control her husband during her campaign, why would President Obama (doesn't that have a nice ring to it... !!!) select to have him hanging around. Just picture the scenario for one moment, that should do.......

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Greg?

Thanks for making it patently clear that this was a media overstatement.

And thanks, also for the words about how crazy media sites must be today.

19 Delegate left. 5 more to go according to Chuck Todd for it to be the voting tonight to put him over the top.

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See my updates above - closer than that.

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I wouldn't exactly call the AP's early characterization of her campaign's stance on tonight's results a train wreck given that her McAuliffe was on television this morning saying she'd call Obama and concede should he hit 2118. Overstated, but not absurdly so.

Ditto on the Veep considerations, really, what with multiple participants on the call confirming it to various news orgs; anyone had a chance to shoot it down if it wasn't true.

I am sooo pumped. people we are witnessing HISTORY right before our eyes.

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I'm already celebrating with a nice cold local summer brew.

The taste is sweeeeeet.

DaddyD, where is local for you?

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San Francisco

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You latte drinking wine swilling limousine liberal, you!

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Check, check, and check!

But you forgot the brie. Mmmmm, brie!

Plus your "San Francisco Values"

as opposed to "American Values"

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I lived in San Francisco in 85, 86. On the corner of McAllister and Lyon streets (Western Addition) and then on California Street....Loved it.

Probably my favorite city in the world.

Mine too! You are a lucky dude, DaddyD!

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Yes, we are lucky. Where in the city are you?

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Whups - maybe I misunderstood. You in S.F., or is it your fav city?

I meant it's my favorite city - I'm not fortunate enough to live there. My older sister used to live around Chestnut Street, I think. I haven't been there to visit since I ran the Nike Women's Marathon in '06.

I am marooned in the Midwest (St. Louis). It's not a bad place to live, but it's no San Fran.

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Thank you. I'm very proud of my city.

Potrero Hill, BTW.

Me too. My most favorite city.....that is why I get so annoyed with the San Francisco values line. That all cities could have SF values, then the world would be a better place.



Potrero Hill, BTW.

Ack!  Too hot!!!

We luvz the cool fog here in the Outer Richmonds!

CT, me too ;)

was raised and schooled in Palo Alto.

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She is getting on my last nerve.

Push and thn Pull

Meltdown? Psychotic break? Schizophrenia setting in?

Clinton Team Introduces New Campaign Slogan.

Hamina-Hamina-Hamina.

[guffaw - chortle - choke]

LOL!

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ROTFLMAO!!!

Good for them to downplay this. It doesn't help her case, and it's not the story tonight.

It won't help. Thanks.

Greg,

As I'm sure you're well aware, that's what happens when journalism is taken over by huge corporate conglomerates whose only concern is profit, and profits are driven by who's "first" and who generates the most "buzz." Sickening to watch what's become of Journalism. That's why so many of us get our news now from smaller sources like TPM. Thanks!

Pig out.

EXACTLY. They clearly do not understand the tried and true route to profit:

Phase 1: Collect underpants . . .

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Phase 2: ???

Major update from the Obama campaign, the number of delegates needed is down to 18.5:

The Obama Campaign today announced that the following delegates pledged to former Senator John Edwards have committed to vote for Senator Obama at the Democratic National Convention. With today's announcement, every delegate pledged to Senator Edwards in Iowa (four delegates), New Hampshire (four delegates) and South Carolina (eight delegates) will be voting for Senator Obama at the National Convention. In addition, 10 of the 13 Edwards delegates from Florida will be voting for Senator Obama at the National Convention.

The updated roster adds ten delegates today to Obama's delegate total, raising it to 2,099.5 and leaving the campaign only 18.5 delegates away from clinching the nomination at 2,118.

Obama will reach the number of delegates needed to secure the nomination tonight.

We are on the verge of having a nominee. The Democratic Party is making history today.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/185-to-go.html

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How many is he expected to get in today's Primaries?

Between 10 and 15. He's goin' over the top, Baby!

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This stuff is coming in faster than I can update it... demconwatch.com reports:

Obama leads today's superdelegate count with 17 endorsements (14 superdelegate votes) Clinton has one endorsement from a Florida superdelegate for .5 superdelegate votes. She has also lost 2 endorsements for a total of -1.5 votes

Added Michigan DNC member Tina Abbott for Obama

Switched DNC Ben Johnson (DC) from Clinton to Obama

Switched DNC Kamil Hasan (CA) from Clinton to Obama

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The avalanche has begun!!!!!!!!

Dear Hillary,
Please continue to downplay and then gracefully exit the campaign. McCain is gearing up for the GE, and we need to be UNITED. You can help lead us to a DEMOCRATIC PARTY LANDSLIDE in November! (And this includes Congress!!)
Best Regards,
dojo23

Shiva H. Vushnu, 1,000 time NO

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Again: not included in the counts are these two bits from demconwatch.com:

Update: The Obama Campaign has just issued a press release with 10 additional Edwards delegates that have switched their vote to Obama. We are working with Green Papers to make an update.

Reported upcoming endorsements: Sen Herb Kohl (WI), Rep. Jerry McNerney (CA), DNC Ralph Dawson (NY), Gov. Bill Ritter (CO), Sen Ken Salazar (CO), Gov. Brian Schweitzer (MT), Sen. Max Baucas (MT), Sen. Jon Tester (MT), Dennis McDonald (MT) and Margaret Campbell who endorsed Obama but had to back down due to her vice-chair position in the Montana Democratic Party.

Obama goes over the top tonight! It will be officially over within hours!!!

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Of course she wants it. It's pretty much the only chance she has left to ever be president someday.

If she really believes Obama will lose, as some have argued, she'd be better off staying in the senate and making another run in 2012.

Why assume the AP is having a bad day? It's more likely that the Clinton camp is having a hell of a time controlling leaks and keeping its surrogates on message.

Or how about some deliberate leaking of contradictory messages to keep the attention you-know-where?? I'd put my money, a lot of my money, on that.

And I am LIVID about this VP 'offer' right at this time. Would you give the man one damn day before you start jerking folks around again, injecting drama, and getting the spotlight back on *you*??!!

It's blackmail. The theory being that he can't say 'no' without totally alienating those furious "troops" of hers. But you know what? I hope he does. If he managed to beat the Clintons, I think he can beat McCain without their help. And if he does win with a different VP, then he'll be able to **govern**. That is the important part, isn't it?

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Ok, I realize it's been one of those days when the media goes a little nuts, but I think the AP report that said Obama has clinched the nomination was right.

So what train wreck - so far? I see plenty of potential - but what am I missing?

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I assume this is Greg's way of warning us to cast a skeptical eye at anything hot off the presses today.

Doesn't matter. Obama goes over the top today, and as far as I'm concerned everything else is a non-story.

Time to get another beer and keep the celebration rolling!

As for the Veep slot, MSNBC's version has Hillary mentioning the VP role only in response to a challenge from one of the Latino members of the NY delegation, Nydia Velasquez, who allegedly said that the only way Latinos would support the Democratic ticket is if Hillary is on it. So, naturally, Hillary wouldn't directly insult one of her own die-hard supporters to her (phone) face.

So, I think we can chill a little about whether Hillary is trying to big foot anybody.

Nydia Velasquez, who allegedly said that the only way Latinos would support the Democratic ticket is if Hillary is on it.

And just who is this Taminy Hall wannabe Ms. Velasquez to know the minds of all latinos?

This is desperate on the face of it.

No VEEP. No Sen Leadership. No SCOTUS. Avast! And back to the Senate wi' ye!! Ahhhhhhr!

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Shriek!

Who thought it would be a good idea to have an ad full of animated spiders on my screen, goddamn it?

More mixed messages from the Clinton camp. One group wants her to claim the VP spot (which they'll later claim is Co-President since the primary was so close), another wants her to run to the convention and a third wants her to bow out gracefully.

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Message management is lost. Campaign imploding from crushing pressure of reality.

She'll tell voters in Guam and Puerto Rico that she'll make their territories able to vote in November if they vote for her now...but she'll deny wanting the VP spot as if that's something people will believe.

Sigghhhhhhhh...

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For Barack Obama, having BILLARY Clinton as Vice President would be like having a Live SNAKE under the bed covers!

Say "G'night," Hillary, the party is O-VER!

And there goes THO4HILLARY proving exactly why Hillary Clinton lost the nomination!

Keep it up, redneck - try and prove us all wrong!

I cannot wait to see the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC just completely IGNORE Shrillary tonight, no matter how many times she tries to steal Obama's thunder!

It's like "Oh yeah...Hillary wants to say something. Uhhh, I gotta take a squirt."

This is the closest thing I've seen to a high school election - ever.

If I were in the GOP, I wouldn't be able to stop dreaming about running against this disunity ticket.

I am hoping the country gets rid of this megalomaniac woman from the national stage once and for all.

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Since I've never been much of a fan of her performance in the senate, it's fine with me if she retires.


But I don't think that's happening.

I still can't believe the NY'ers voted for a carpetbagger to begin with. But whatever.

She's better than Brownback.

Re: "Camp Hillary is pushing back against reports that Hillary told New York legislators on a conference call that she'd be "open" to being Obama's vice president."
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Fine by me.

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Yes.

What would be even better, though, is a headline like this: Clinton campaign announces that Clinton has no interest in Veep spot.

But hey, today's still going pretty damn well.

Here's the headline I'm looking forward to:

Obama announces running mate: INSERT NAME HERE THAT IS NOT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

No matter what Obama does to help Clinton or be nice to her, her supporters will completely take it out of context.

If he helps her pay off her debt, they will claim he's buying her off and telling her to shut up.

If he makes her a VP running mate, they'll claim he needs her to beat McCain.

If he doesn't make her the VP running mate, they'll call him sexist, especially if he pics a male.

Just brush her off completely - it won't make things any better or worse!

The primary season comes to a close.

We have a new President of the United States of America....not blue states...not red states...But the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

President Barack Obama!

at least three Black Russians tonight while listening to his speech!

Every time McAuliffe or Wolfson or some other surrogate shoots their mouth off, another two or three superdels declare. So, Terry & Wolfie, please, keep it up! Keep making shit up! We love it!

Fox News has him 6 over the number needed, with a checkmark next to his name as the presumptive nominee.

See also
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/03/AR2008060300273_pf.html

Ok, who remembers Bill's entrance into the 2000 convention that started in some bowels of the venue, and the camera preceeded him the 4.5 miles up to the convention floor?

Who remembers cringing, wondering if he should even be there at all, but admitting the CW "it's probably for the best."?

I'm still cringing. She must leave, and completely. This is Obama's time now.

Wolfie just told Blitzer she's still in it to win!

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......Okaaay.

Well, you wouldn't be in it to lose, right?

The real question is: why is she still in it?

Anyone know what time Obama is expected to speak tonight? Will it be after the MT polls close?

Drudge has an excerpt from McCain's speech tonight in which he calls Obama the presumptive nominee.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashms.htm

Well, if he wants the 18 million that have not drank his kool aid, its a no brainer.

The supers can change up until the vote on the floor and anything can happen.

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Whoaaa - you're right!

Monkeys are flying out your ass!!!

Oh wait, your just passing gas again.

Shhhhh.

You don't want anyone to hear that.

Already two Super-Delegates HAVE changed today.

From Clinton to Obama.

Hmmmm Let's see. Obama clinches the nomination against all odds, defeating the Clinton machine and the Democratic establishment. Historic and remarkable news. And who is dominating the headlines, cable news and the blogs; Hilary, Hilary, Hilary!!! What Will She Do Now? What Will Bill Do Now?

Who in their right mind would like that circus on the ticket?

Breaking:

From Clinton Campaign Headquarters:

Senator Clinton wishes to have it be known that she is still in it to Spin, I mean Win. Yeh, that's the ticket; Win.


Signed:

Terrible McAwful

Hey, can't you Obama fans not even spell: my name is Terryble McAwful, and we all know that Hillary Clinton will be there, come January. 'Cause she has to make sure that president Obama will not deliver his oath of office on the Quran. He is not a Muslim, as far as she knows - but who knows; better make sure.

Thank god this is finally over. Hillary Clinton should never again run for anything. Her campaign was just an extremely mean attack on the intelligence, goodwill and patience of American citizens. Does she really hate America so much that she has to treat its citizens with such campaigns?

MSNBC leap-frogged NYT, claims the magic number is now down to 14.5:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24944453/

Here is new GOP ad starting to run today, thank you HRC. Her words below, discrediting Obama.

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday in the final two Democratic presidential primaries, the Republican National Committee began circulating a video of Hillary Clinton questioning Barack Obama’s qualifications to be commander-in-chief, and acknowledging John McCain has this important presidential credential.

“Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002,” Clinton says in the one-minute video of CNN’s coverage of a news conference she held on March 8 – the day Obama won the Wyoming caucuses. “I think that is a significant difference. I think that since we now know Senator McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that.

"And I think it is imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold. And I believe I have done that. Certainly, Senator McCain has done that. And you will have to ask Senator Obama with respect to his candidacy.”

And that's why she can not VP.

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exactment.

And doesn't that make you feel that much better about the fact that the DLC-Clinton Machine isn't running our party anymore?

WE ARE!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow. No VEEP for her.

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This is why her Veep chances are nil.

Not the RFK remark. This. Because it can be used against him.

Awesome! Thanks for making our point for us, GOP.

My stomach has been killing me every time the media hammers on this Hillary for VP campaign. This is a good tonic. Thank you for mentioning it.

Boy the media is really having trouble putting down the Hillary crack pipe....

Now I'm just hoping my wife didn't finish off the Makers Mark watching the Wings last night. Time for a celebration!

Penguins rule!

This live-blogging is the greatest. sh$t. ever.

Now, the indicted Rep. from Louisiana just announced he will endorse Barack, according to NYT, so the NYT magic number is down to 15.5; NBC magic number 14.5.

Rep. Maxine Waters just switched fron Clinton to Obama...and the race is on to get in their endorsements before tonight!

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O yes! That rocks.


ouch. I bet that hurt.

Veep. Nope.

SCOTUS? Yep.

Veep? Nope.
SCOTUS? Nope.
Jr. Senator from New York? Sure.

And she can expect a primary fight.

SHE offered herself as VEEP to keep the headlines all about her. She disgusts me.

Kos just posted this, so true!

Clinton Open to Being Obama's Veep. I'm Open to Being the Detroit Tigers' Second Baseman.

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LOL!!!

Greg writes:

The pressure on the news orgs is ordinarily intense enough on normal days to be first with literally any shard of info, no matter how trivial or poorly sourced, that purports to shed light on what Hillary is thinking or what she will do. But this has reached absurd and truly grotesque proportions today.

Hence the increased likelihood of journalistic train-wrecks.

How true. And well said.

But, at the same time, Hillary is certainly keeping herself dominating the headlines by encouraging both answers to every possible question.

Is she open to going away and shutting the hell up?

Of course, the AP sourced this direct quote from Hillary to an anonymous participant on the call. And it needs to be reiterated that the AP's track record today has been less than sterling.

My track record is awesome, but it's spelled Stirling.

MSNBC just said that Hillary was the one that brought up the whole VP thing.

The most important person to unite the party is Hillary Clinton.

She will get what she wants.

She wanted the nomination.

How did that work out for her?

LOL

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Demconwatch:

Obama leads today's superdelegate count with 23 endorsements (19.5 superdelegate votes) Clinton has one endorsement from a Florida superdelegate for .5 superdelegate votes. She has also lost 4 endorsements for a total of -3.5 votes

(Is that what she wanted, gl?)

"I am open to it, if it would help the party's prospects in November."

No, Ms. Clinton, it would not help the party's prospects in November, if you were on the ticket. You have lied, schemed, misspoken enough - now just go away.

Honestly I find it condescending for people to crank up this pressure on Obama about his choice of Hillary as the VP.

Leave that choice to Obama. He's earned his right to that as our nominee. Have some respect and trust in his judgement.

VP choice isn't simple electoral math. And it certainly isn't popular vote math. So lots of people like Hillary, that's fine. But she's lost the nomination fight. And she is not entitled to anything, unless and until the rules are changed so that the runner-up automatically becomes the VP.

VP choice is about chemistry, compatibility in vision and style, and whether he/she complement the president.

I simply don't see that in the "dream" ticket.

And personally, I can't stand one more minute of HRC. She will taint the ticket with all the anger and victimhood mentality she's customed to, not to mention the disfunctional politics of the Clinton brand.

Hillary simply can't give it up. She needs to make life miserable for others.

"Honestly I find it condescending for people to crank up this pressure on Obama about his choice of Hillary as the VP."

Of COURSE it's condescending. That's their point.

Alright, you cats are killin' my buzz.

Our candidate is down to needing only 10, yes count 'em, 10 delegates.

Only question now is - how many delegates over the magic number will he be when it's all said and done, hmmmmmm?????


Actually I can't imagine Hillary wanting it...

Regarding the standard talking point that Gore and Cheney have made the VP position more desirable and powerful-- I have a one syllable retort: Bosh!

The VP position is a dead-end sinecure filled with empty glad-handing and aimless travel.

Whatever we might think and say and feel about Hillary, one thing is indisputable: She's not cut out to be mannequin with a stuffed toy poodle on her lap, holding a tray full of plastic cookies extended perpetually towards window shoppers.

No. No. No. She has been there, done that. First Vice Lady again? Nah. Super-Dumb idea, and not just because Bill needs to kept miles from the WH and sedated with a chloroform hanky.

Speaking of super-dumb:

Hillary supporters who are pushing this VP idea are the ones with Benedict Arnold egg on their faces. Apparently they have less respect for Hillary's will-to-power than I do. Why are pushing your gal into a dead-end job?

Sorry. But bulldog Hillary would be wasted as Vice. There is a better place for her...

Two words explain why Obama can’t pick Hillary Clinton: Bill Clinton. I thought he was a great president but he must ALWAYS be the center of attention, and I think the volatility he’s demonstrated on the campaign trail over the past several months indicates that he’s developed some emotional issues since he left the presidency. As much residual fondness as I have for him, I don’t think the Democratic party can afford to have him in a high profile position where his every indiscretion will be viewed under a microscope. And you can’t fire your vice-president’s husband.

And there are two more words: Clinton herself. She’d always be working away at her own agenda, which, I believe has nothing to do with helping Obama govern as we try to recover from 8 years of the catastrophic Bush & Cheney administration. Her agenda, instead would have everything to do with accumulating power and obtaining the ultimate office for herself, by any means available. And I mean any. I don’t think she can be trusted and I don’t think you can fire your vice-president, either.

Those are hard words to say about two people I used to admire.


Now, Howard Fineman is on MSNBC floating the idea that Obama might ask Clinton to be his running mate as long as she guarantees that she declines. With the way she has run her campaign, I wouldn't trust any pledge from Hillary.

I think, for the sake of my health, I'm going to have to turn off my TV for the next few weeks.

Not to defend AP, because they've been pretty awful for the last couple of years overall, but it's a non-profit.

This site's comment programming doesn't work very well. I clicked the above to be a reply to
Spiderpig, above.

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