apparently they didn't get the memo:

"While Senator Clinton has made clear throughout this process that she will do whatever she can to elect a Democrat to the White House, she is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her. The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

She wasn't ever going to get the nod, because of CIC comments and the library donor issue, but this just makes her supporters look like they won't recognize reality.

And really. Having Lanny Davis join the group is just freaking hilarious.

And Greg?

Can you please name a "high profile neutral" person?

The only person I can think of is Al Gore. Who else is there?

I just visited the site. I'm a unique IP. But I don't support the site's intentions. Visits to a site only means visits to a site, not support. How many times have I clicked a link to free republic to read a thread, and yet, I don't support free republic's beliefs.

Pressuring Obama to seem weak and cave in to demands will avail Clinton nothing. Whether the pressure comes from her or petition.

25,000 signatures out the entire US doesn't sound like alot to me.

I'm underwhelmed.

I hereby petition Hillary to

HIT THE BRICKS!!!

Dont they know they are doing more harm than good to their cause? Their antics will only force him to NOT pick her so he doesnt look weak.

Hillary who?

Petitions are nice, and those are impressive numbers. Some other petitions i'd like to see:

Stop the war

Impeach Bush

Disband the Republican Party

I bet we can get 200k on each of those. Therefore, they MUST be enacted.

Breaking:

During last night's top secret meeting, I have now learned, that Senator Clinton formally asked Senator Obama to be the Presidential Candidate on her ticket.

This is good news actually 25,000 is nothing. I guess that's what we'll lose if she's not on the ticket. Big deal. Go away clintons! I'll be glad when they stop hogging the press.

SHOOO!!!

Maybe I'm just stupid, but 25,000 doesn't sound like that much to me. I mean, over 130,000 people have signed this petition to keep "Jericho" on CBS.

I don't know if anyone's sold their bike yet, though.

A Gallup Poll today says that Obama is even with McCain. But if Hillary is on the ticket Obama/Clinton are 5 points ahead of McCain.

SHOOO, OTTO! SHOOO, SHOOO, SHOOO!

Here's who it's *attracting* - Rush Limbaugh's "operation chaos" ditto heads:

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1326

Rush on Wednesday: "...So as the commander-in-chief of US Operation Chaos, I would like to urge all of you who want to, to go to HillaryClinton.com and tell her what you think she ought to do...."

Sick of posting on Clinton threads. Make it stop!

Like many here I'd like to see more threads on the historic nature of our nominee. Why not more coverage on the Virginia tour yesterday, I for one would be very interested. Especially considering there is a very good chance one of the Virginia boys WILL be the VP.

Back to the Edwards thread on VP for me....

Oh, and for what it's worth....

OBAMA-FEINGOLD 2008!!!!

If the Washington pundits can throw out a horrible school prayer endorsing, old school, anti-gay Dixiecrat like Nunn, I'm gonna counter-balance with a populist like Feingold.

I guess there are people out there who really would sooner support a ticket with Hillary (SHOO!) on it.

But the net effect would be negative, big time.

Can't stand up for himself, two minorities at once, weird and spiteful Hillary learing next to him, gets bullied by gender-feminists, more of the appalling Clintons, astronomical negatives for her,helps Rebublicans raise more cash. And if it rained on election day, even some of his base would stay home rather than get wet. Poll all you want -- this is a losing proposition.

Oops, forgot to mention pre-election interviews on smarmy TV shows with Bill about his return to the White House. YUCK!!

Gregg, I actually read the post, I usually gloss over your clinton rah, rah, rah bs. This really is absurd. Are you guys at TPM getting paid by the clintons or what's the deal? The clintons lost on tuesday. It's over. Why do you guys keep shilling for the clintons? Is somebody at tpm married to a relative or what? I am sure that we are all really curious. It's been this way for over a year. What's the gig?

While it is normally not done at this stage, I think that Obama should consider naming Hillary as Secretary of State, a higher profile position then VP. If she indicates to her supporters that if he is elected, she would accept that position, all of this crap would end. And, I believe she would be very good as a Secretary of State.

"Someone just registered: First Name: Obama. Last Name: Sebelius."

Thanks for sharing the joyful news, liam! FUNNY!

Greg, thanks for the update. Could you add another update stating the Rush Limbaugh is asking 22 MILLION listeners to sabotage this petition? I mean, maybe it's just me, but that's a lot of people that could easily sign up 25,000 names simply to monkey with the Democrats.

Fuggetaboutit.

Hmmmm, someone else just registered.

first name: Obama
last name: Webb

I think Obama's campaign and the Dem leadership has enough sense to question this petition once it shoots from 25,000 to 20 million.

Trust me, Hillary will be nowhere near the VP spot. Definitely a Cabinet post (which she deserves), but not the VP spot!

I didn't support her at all in the primaries, but I think she's make a hell of a Secretary of State OR replace Harry Reid!

Another indication that Hillary's attempt to get her supporters so emotionally attached to her as a personality has backfired and now these people are in a fenzy and out of her control.

There are two groups that she has lost control of, one (1) are people who still want anything to do with the DNC, these people will petition and kick and scream to get her installed as VP if she can't be President. Some of these people will join group 2 when/if that doesn't pan out.

Group two (2) are extremist supporters who are vowing to vote McCain. She and many of her supporters said so many things to undermine Obama that this group is convinced that the election was stolen from her and so they will do whatever they can to harm anyone that is perceived to have gotten in her way. They turned against even Taylor Marsh for suggesting that a vote for McCain if you support Clinton is a bad idea. They will not follow Hillary's lead in supporting Obama and the DNC, they are convinced she is being strong-armed into it and forced to do such things. They feel they are the only true Democrats and it's up to them to purge the current party leaders by voting against them.

These are not conclusions, they are paraphrases.

The petition to bring back "My So-Called Life" probably got ten times more signatures than this.

It's all about Saturday. What she says tomorrow will determine whether or not she has a snowball's chance in Hell of joining the ticket, signatures be damned.

If Hillary wants to be VP, just set up some kind of entity. Doesn't matter what. Just make sure the entity has a VP slot. And please give it to hillary!

Oooh, 25,000, I'm impressed.

Not.

There were more than 30,000 people lined up in St. Paul Tuesday night to hear Obama claim the nomination.

COUNT THIS AS MY SIGNATURE, to the petition that he select ANYONE but Hillary... Well, maybe not Darth Cheney.

If a petition were to be circulated against Clinton as VP, it would undoubtedly get 10 times that many signatures - at the bare minimum. The Clintons will never pass the vetting process anyway, so why don't all the pundits and the Clintonites just take a vacation.

I'm sure I could get 25,000 signatures for "An Ice Cream Cone in Every Hand" initiative too.

Do I have start a petition to keep Clinton off the ticket?

Seriously, shouldn't we let Obama decide without public pressure? With such pressure, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Which means we're damned if he does and damned if he doesn't

Send him an e-mail if you want to lobby for putting Clinton on the ticket.

Incidentally, why is TPM even reporting this nonsense? Oh that's right. This is the "all Hillary, all the time" blog. Even after she loses the nomination, she dominates the the topic of conversation over here. Frustrating.

The group may be well-intentioned but one of their biggest problems as I see it is that they have recruited Lanny Davis, which immediately translates to a lot of people believing that this is a Clinton effort. Davis is of course extremely close to the Clintons. Even if not true, the perception is there.

Nobody can stop them from what they are doing, but their calling attention to this effort can be counterproductive to the very thing they want to accomplish, since it will be perceived as putting pressure on Obama.

So why isn't super-smart Davis advising them to chill? I can't figure it out.

What happened Adam Parkhomenko? last time we saw you you were telling us about how Hillary was going to the convention in Denver! Now you are kissing ass to let Hillary suck up to Obama in hope of getting the VP. LMAO!

I can say for a fact that at least 20 of those signatures are very OBVIOUSLY phony. They'll never pass the fraud test. Not unless someone has registered hotsmell.com since I last checked. :)

Why did I know that clinking on the link would get me to Greg???

I do not understand why (except for a basic lack of seriousness shown here for Obama, his candidacy and his success)this bs keeps coming back up on TPM?? No one seems as obsessed by this question more than TPM (Greg) and CNN.

Senator Obama (you know, the new head of the Democratic Party?? The presumptive nominee? The Senator?? The one who just took on a major political family and won??? The one deserving of a being treated seriously, Greg) has said several times no. They have said it politely by talking about time, process (i.e.,vetting Bill), and his RIGHT, obligation and responsiblity to choose his own VP.

Question, Greg: If Biden or Dodd or Edwards or Gore or Sebelius (for that matter)had won the primary, would you dare to legitimize the Clintons' efforts to "strong-arm" Obama??

They have so little respect for Obama, and the more Greg operates as the conduit from the Clintons' to the general public, the more that lack of regard characterizes TPMElection.

Let me put it another way, Greg and Clinton(s) and Bob Johnson: Senator Obama is a grown-ass man. Leave him alone.

Gee, thanks for that late, late, late update. I was getting worried. By the way, it seems kind of disingenuous. I would think they would do a spam e-mail to supporters and they have hundreds and hundreds of thousands right? And they only got 25k. Too funny. They still lie in defeat. Those clintons are such cards.

That reminds me. How's the petition to reunite the Beatles going?

Hilarious. And to think these are the same people who go around claiming that it's the Obama people who are involved in a cult....