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Gallup: Obama's Lead Narrowing

Barack Obama's post-primary bump might be starting to subside, the latest Gallup poll finds.

Today's poll finds Obama narrowly leading John McCain by a 45%-42% margin, with a ±2% margin of error. A week ago, Obama was enjoying a 48%-42% lead.

On the other hand, Rasmussen has not shown any such decline yet, with Obama's lead remaining steady at 49%-43%.


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If one poll shows no difference, and another poll shows a slight difference (that is within the margin of error), how can you say that Obama's lead is narrowing?

Maybe because polls are useless...Duh.

I've noticed that Gallup has consistently polled Obama below where Rasmussen has, so this really doesn't come as much of a surprise to me. What WOULD be surprising to me is if Gallup was polling McCain ahead while Rasmussen continued polling Obama ahead outside of the MOE.

McCain is still at 42% where he was last week on the Gallup poll, so it looks like has peaked at around that level.

If McSame's "Admiral Stockdale Moments" continue apace -- and they almost certainly will -- Obama's lead will steadily climb until the old man is so far back that you can't even see him in the rear-view mirror.

It's still pretty early to be paying much attention to minor swings in the polls. The real question at this point is what the candidates have in their quivers. McCain's weaknesses will show as more light is thrown on him.

Further, there are "powers' that Obama has that haven't fully been considered. I will mention two here, his name and the Federation.

"Obama: It's the Name, Stupid"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

Obama, Spock, and the New Star Trek Nation"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

This was going to happen. Obama will likely get a huge bump after the Democratic Convention in August.

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I agree with Flufferwink, Obama will get a big bump after the Dem convention.

And I'll add to it that I'm not sure much will happen between now and then in terms of these national polls.

My usual disclaimer to all of these daily tracking polls is that they are polling something different than what actually selects the president. The national popular vote doesn't matter; what matters is the electoral college. RealClearPolitics.com has a chart of the latest polling by state and Obama is ahead in electoral votes but there is enough toss up states to call it a draw. Even so, he is looking strong and is doing the right things to position himself for victory.

Oh, a final point is that Rasmussen had a better track record in the primaries than Gallop. Rasmussen was 3rd best and Gallop 25th. Ras is an automated system with a recorded voice versus a live person with Gallop and overall the automated systems seem to perform better.

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performance versus the actual votes

cept they ain't polling people with cell phones

that's a big weakness in today's tele-polling

That's a lot of conclusion to be drawing from a single poll with a tiny change.

Erik likes to draw a lot of conclusions from a single data source.


Yep, drawing wrong, anti-obama conclusions from stupid polls is what Eric specializes in.

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Just wait for the debates.


:)


Erik likes to draw a lot of conclusions from a single data source.

Yes.

5 months before the first primaries, Hillary had a 30 point lead over OBama. POlls this early dont matter.

the gallup tracking polls haven't even been beneficial during the primary season so why would they suddenly be beneficial now. Obama's lead will grow once we start getting further into the election season.

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A three point dip in a week? Why, at this rate, he'll be polling below zero by Election Day!

dear erik clayboot, this is so exciting. senator obama is struggling to stay on top of mccsame. hillary would have been a better candidate by far. she would have been up by ten, no doubt. are there any polls to tell us how far ahead hillary would be? tell us . tell us!

lol.

It's June 14.

8:38 p.m. Eastern.

Oh no, are we starting the daily doom polls again??

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Obama will get a bounce when he picks his running mate.

McCain wont get much of any bounce when he picks his cause its gonna be just another old white conservative. (hopefully he is dumb enough to pick Romney)

Ten bucks says he picks Lieberman

I agree that Obama will get a bump from his VP selection, but McCain will too (even if it is Romney, but especially if it is out of the box like Jindal).

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Mountain = molehill: even with a 2 pt MOE, and Rasmussen's is 4 I believe, there is no difference in these polls. Even though they are close to each other and generally consistent with other recent polls, I still don't place much stock in daily tracking polls at this point. The NBC/WSJ poll released this past week is probably the best recent barometer of the race, showing Obama up by 6 pts.

Of course, that is not locked in stone between now and election day.

The MSM will do all it can to make this race close. Just witness the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the chattering class about the VP vetting "gaffe."

neither poll provides any data about political affiliation, so I'm left to wnder how rasmussen and gallup are dealing with the mass exodus from the repuglitard party

I only saw 5 repuglitards on June 3, 2008, and two of those people said they were voting for Obama

after 4 months of mcsame playing grandpa simpson, I doubt I see 5 repuglitards in November

Take a look at this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25139036#25139036

It is an interview with Gen. Wesley Clark from a couple of days ago. Clark certainly is a person who needs to be considered for the vp position, but regardless, if he can get a platform, what he has to say here will help de-mythify McCain.

As far as the polls go, it is just too early and no need to worry about every little shift. I'm just surprised that so many Americans are falling for all the current myths about McCain. As Clark points out, sitting in a POW camp, while very difficult, does not put one in the position of making command decisions about Iraq or elsewhere in the world. We don't have the same world as we had during the Viet Nam war era, and what we did then only resulted in needless deaths of many Americans.

What was the point of this post? Is Eric simply looking to make waves where there are none? I don't understand where this site is headed. Josh, who has deservedly made this site's reputation, seems so level-headed, but this page is increasingly a loose canon of unsophisticated random points.

Lest I seem ungrateful, let me add that I'm happy to continue reading this page for the illuminating comments, no matter what the original post. This has increasingly become a sort of political home for me.

I'd agree that fretting over day-to-day poll numbers...but then again, most of the political news that gets dissected probably doesn't add up to much. Is analyzing what one politician said at one particular moment necessarily more important than the results of a particular poll? It's just fodder for conversation.

I look at individual poll results in the same way that I look at posts about superdelegate endorsements - if they're significant or striking in some way, they're worth a post.

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You're not ungrateful. This is a dramatic headline where there's zero drama. And there's going to be almost five more months of this crap.

For example, what is "has not shown any such decline yet" supposed to mean? Does Eric have some information that he isn't making public and which indicates that Obama will drop in other polls as well? If yes, he should share this information. If not, he should keep such "predictions" to himself. This is extremely bad journalism.

Hear, Hear.

Bad journalism - When that has stopped Greg & Eric from writing their 'pieces' containing their pearls of wisdom.

I'm with George Will on this one.

Obama has five percent or more that aren't being picked up by traditional radar.

I need to shower now.

IT'S ALL OVER MAN WE SHOULD'VE NOMINATED DODD I WARNED YOU GUYS

It's shocking that Obama is doing so poorly in the polls, considering how fed up most people are with the Republicans. but it's still not too late to nominate the right candidate.

LAROUCHE 08!

I hate polls. How many people did they survey and who were they? Oh well, it's fun. Like trying to predict the outcome of sports events according to stats.

On the other hand, I like Ron Paul...or at least I used to. Teaming with that thing "bobar" changed my mind. The guy with the rex is exactly that; a dinosaur.

Do these polls take into account the fact that Democrats are more enthused than Repugnantcans about voting this year?

I don't get this narrowing at all. McCain has looked ridiculous by any standard, hasn't made a case for shit, and Obama's done great. The Jim Johnson thing? Really? that would close up the gap when McCain's team is still over-run with lobbyists?

I'm surprised, frankly. Any ideas?

It's called variance within the margin of error. It is as likely to be statistical noise as meaningful. Which Eric knows well, being a political science major from a school with a good political science department, but "Poll Varies Within Margin of Error" is not much of a headline and it would tip over the comments into an existential tizzy.

In the absense of a major blowup of some kind, we're not going to see any meaningful polling data until sometime in September, after the post-convention bounces have settled out.

Obama is blowing his lead.
He keeps adding on new taxes with nothing in return. People are not stupid.
Raise the CG tax then the income tax. Wait, do not stop there, raise the soc security tax, but claim it will only affect the wealthiest 3%.
Whoa.
Didn't the income tax and alternative income tax only affect the wealthiest americans and now they apply to almost everyone?
Well the huge rise in the Soc Security tax will affect the middle cleass sooner than they think.
And what will they get for it. Nothing.
Basically Obama wants to change the Social Security retirement/disability insurance fund into a welfare program.
That will turn a successful program into a doomed program
It might even cost him the presidency in 2008.

Nice concern trolling there. Now hop over to McCain's website and collect your doggie treat.

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I haven't taken Gallup seriously for years. Just as surely as Zogby will give erratic, Democratic-leaning results, Gallup will give reliably Republican-leaning results. Rasmussen is the gold standard of tracking polls for now, just as in 2004.

Eric and Greg:

I would like to suggest some analytical judgement and critical thinking when posting and framing polling this far out from November. As has been already noted, the "shift" is not much of one, since McCain stayed at 42%. Also, I remember during the primary season that weekend polling consistently under-measured Obama support (for whatever reasons). For these 2 reasons of several - I don't know how journalistically responsible it is to post 2-3% changes (especially while the other person doesn't pick up support and another poll registers no shift).

And: Unlike the primary, if polling is at all significant this far out, wouldn't it be more interesting to create a story/analysis (not just a posting)about state polls????

What your headline suggests is that there is some drop in Obama support, but the data you cited does not bear you out on that "conclusion."

There are enough stories during this down time without having to make them up. It's kind of like MSNBC slicing up its own data to find a sliver of 100 "suburban women" (who are not always white, btw) who did not support Obama, and then creating a whole narrative around those 100 women. An ENTIRE show was devoted to these 100 women (where these suburbs were, I don't know. What is a "suburb" anyway these days with sprawling cities??).

Maybe all of you (pundits, bloggers, "reporters") should go get help for why the Obama campaign has become a fetish for some of you. While I know his run is ground-breaking blah, blah, blah - does that mean that media folk can
just throw away all reasonable constraints????

There's a story: "Obama's Candidacy as the New Exotic."

Geez,,,

National polling is worthless.
State to state, another matter altogether.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

No worries.

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La la la la, I'm not listening. Obama is god. La la la la.

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By the way, anyone who thinks that electoral-vote.com map is a sign of "no worries" is an idiot.

Idiot here.

Anyone that gets in a lather about Gallup daily national tracking polls should find a new brand of shaving cream.

538.com pointed out that the candidate who was ahead in the national polls in June has lost the popular vote in November in 4 of the last 5 elections: 1988, 1992, 2000, and 2004.

If that trend continues, McCain will get more votes than Obama in November.

Well that's it then. Let's just call off the election and declare McCain emperor.

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Gore won the popular vote in 2000. So that makes a whopping 3 out of 5 elections in which the candidate ahead in the polls in June lost in November. An unstoppable trend! Obama is doomed!

These numbers are I think pretty meaningless.

McCain's campaign lacks the willingness or the
ability (probably both) to think outside the box.

In order to survive McCain has to make an extraordinary pick as VP. There may be someone like that out there but the names being tossed around so far are about as average as you can get.
There might be one or two that could help him with the base but no one who can make the average voter take a different look at the McCain campaign.

Whatever Obama's weaknesses he will not have to rely on his VP to bring life to his campaign. HE has done that on his own.

He will probably get a bump post convention and never look back.

Are you a "Dr" of asininity ? Go away, you gop troll.

Intended for "Dr" Zaius, of course.

Yes, it was. Thanks CarolBG.

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