Clyburn Finally Makes It Official: He's Backing Obama
House Majority Whip James Clyburn, who's officially been neutral but who certainly has been acting like an Obama supporter in recent weeks, had said he'd endorse someone officially tomorrow.
Clyburn, however, let the news slip a day early: It is indeed Obama.
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Lipstick on a pig. Clyburn is clearly sexist, and a closet Muslim sympathizer. On to Denver! Huzzah and excelsior!
June 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot mysogynist, hillary-hater and part of the vast left-wing conspiracy.
June 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeeez, it took long enough. Could someone explain why logically it made sense for clyburn not to endorse obama after south carolina? He should have endorsed 4 months ago.
June 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it wouldn't make much sense for supers to exist if they just automatically backed whoever their state/district went for.
June 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I didn't mean to imply that he should follow sc, but I can see him remaining neutral until sc voted so that he wouldn't influence the vote. After sc was done, there was no reason for him to remain allegedly neutral.
June 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congressman Clyburn is the Majority Whip. He has to maintain good relations with all congressional democrats. If he were to endorse before the primary season is over, it would have alienated some
of Senator Clinton's supporters in Congress, and he will need their support when he is trying to round up votes for future bills.
June 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, good points. I stand summarily smacked down. I wasn't looking at it from the leadership perspective and I should have been.
June 2, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's called RESPECT.
June 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Baaaahhh! In order to get respect, you have to earn it. The clintons did not earn and don't deserve any respect in this nominating process. If we turn back the clock prior to her announcement that she was entitled to the nomination, I would say they deserved respect. Now, fuggetaboutit. Sorry. Baaaaahhhh!
June 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it doesnt matter that much now...
June 2, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is GREAT NEWS.....ahhhhh fuck it. I wish the sun and the moon would hurry the hell up and get tomorrow over with. This has been a long 6 months.
June 2, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen!
June 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Weeks?
His position was about a subtle as a freight train when chastised Clinton after she pointed out that only a President can sign a bill into law.
Which is a tad rich coming from someone who's the House Majority Whip.
June 2, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah! How dare he talk down to her like that. What a sexist he is, am I right? Clinton or McCain! NoBama!
June 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please pay attention.
I was pointing out that it was disingenuous of Greg to use "weeks" when it's been painfully obvious for months.
June 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, so you're arguing semantics. Well, that's no fun. I still think Clyburn is sexist. Denver uber alles!
June 2, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
As your attorney, I advise you to vote for Obama.
June 2, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Having just watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas again the other night. That made me snort.
June 3, 2008 12:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Months are composed of weeks.
June 2, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
yep -- it was pretty much understood where he stood around these parts!
as Liam posted at 5:38 PM:
"Clyburn is the Majority Whip. He has to maintain good relations with all congressional democrats. If he were to endorse before the primary season is over, it would have alienated some
of Senator Clinton's supporters in Congress, and he will need their support when he is trying to round up votes for future bills." |
June 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's out tomorrow night.
June 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree.
June 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
WOOOOT! Thank you, Palmetto State!
June 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another nail in the coffin.
June 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
So? Listen, you can pound as many nails in the coffin as you'd like, it won't do you any good.
Why you might ask? Well, because Hillary is Voldemort! You need to recapture all the pieces of her soul and destroy them before she'll go away.
Good luck with that.
June 2, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I don't do Harry Potter.
June 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto.
If you're going to insult someone via try to using a reference everyone understands.
Hillary is
June 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Prince Humperdinck in the Princess Bride
June 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
One problem.
What soul?
June 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop.
June 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Already a done deal. It's called the Senate's back bench, and a real primary fight to keep it. Such is purgatory for both Clintons.
June 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop it.
Clinton is not evil, Voldermot, Vader, GOP-lite, etc.
I disagree with her position (IWR vote, etc.) and I have disliked many things she has done in this campaign, but stop with the vilification of her. It does NOTHING to help Obama win the race for POTUS, it does nothing to help Democrats in general, and does nothing positive for the coutnry.
Stop.
June 2, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps tomorrow night instead of saying this is great news for Hillary we should start saying this is great news for McCain.
June 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
No real surprise.
It's all over but the shouting.
June 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I have been thinking about this, and I am going to be respectful of any Hillary backers here and refrain from anything negative being said about her on my part. I am reserving the right to reverse that if she does something truly awful, but I don't think she will. She has a lot to offer to health care reform, and I hope she will be able to do so.
June 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
She has a lot to offer on health care and a lot of other problems. I just don't think she'd make a good President. And she'll probably make a better Senator when/if she stops running for President, which she's been doing for the last eight years.
June 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
agreed..read earlier that the talk between the campaigns includes offer for cabinet position Health care, or, legislation
that's down her alley and I wouldn't mind...as long as she is not VP!!!
and after the campaign we witnessed, absolutely unfit for the presidency, does not have the stature , besides all of her other weak points
June 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just don't see her in the Cabinet or VP. If he's going to throw her a bone it's probably going to be a commitment to work for some of her pet programs, kind of like the arrangement he has with Edwards. That gives her a face-saving way out. She can say that the millions of people who voted for her are not going to be disappointed because the causes she championed will go on. Yada, yada. Standard fare, but necessary for a politician.
June 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Back to Senate's back bench, says I, and count yourself lucky.
June 2, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am hoping you are right because it was with great effort that I forced myself to accept that she might be part of his cabinet
but VP no way..
June 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
What more does she need to do to prove that she cannot be trusted to get behind his team? Obama needs to build his team with people he can trust to truly support his agenda, and more importantly, will respect his leadership and support him in that. That is not Hillary Rodham Clinton. Her personal ambitions will ALWAYS override her obligations to whatever position she happens to be occupying. Her Senate position has been a means towards an end - the White House. Having not succeeded in that - and baldly shown all of her avarice, ambition, and malice towards Obama - it's time for her to return to that Senate career and make what she can of it. I don't see her having anything to offer Obama and many others who do and who can be counted on to be loyal and dependable members of his team.
June 3, 2008 7:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
The British Telegraph reported yesterday that the Obama campaign is talking with the Clinton campaign about paying her campaign debts when she withdraws from the Democratic primary race next week. The Telegraph also reported Obama staffers seriously discussing offering Clinton a place in the administration and extending offers to former nomination rivals Joe Biden and John Edwards.
In the writing, the Telegraph story was admittedly cryptic as to its sources:
"Another Democrat who has discussed strategy with friends in the Obama inner circle said that Mr Obama was openly considering asking Mrs Clinton to join his cabinet, alongside two other former presidential rivals: John Edwards, who is seen as a likely attorney general, and Sen. Joe Biden, who is a leading contender to become Secretary of State.
"Informal talks have already begun between Obama and Clinton fundraisers to discuss a merger, enabling Mr Obama to pay off Mrs Clinton's campaign debts of $11 million.
"Senior figures in the Obama camp have told Democrat colleagues that the offer to Mrs Clinton of a cabinet post as health secretary or to steer new legislation through the Senate will be a central element of their peace overtures to the New York senator."
June 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It may have seemed 'obvious' after the SC primary that Clyburn was in favor of Obama, but up until that very rough primary there was a lot of speculation that he would be in support of (if not actively supporting) Sen. Clinton. They lost a good one there. Also, his failure to formally endorse is related to his very high-level position in the House of Representatives -- very much like Pelosi (whom scuttlebut said would go for Obama) and Reid (who was pretty clearly a Clinton supporter early on - and is probably glad now that he had to stay neutral!)
June 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Judas!
Thanks, Clyburn!
w00t + {{{{happy dance!}}}}
June 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clyburn was a honest referee in SC.
June 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
He also could have demanded the Clinton's skins for their remarks, but chose to remain the consumate professional he is. When he was compelled to protest, it was a velvet hammmer he chose.
Rep Clyburn's standing will increase dramatically within the dem party.
June 2, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi, everybody! I've been taking a break from posting (I've been lurking for a few weeks now for my sanity and because of my insane work schedule), but I had to post this from MSNBC First-Read:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/02/1097390.aspx
They're saying that 34 undeclared SD's from the House will endorse Obama between now and Wednesday (Clyburn being the first). This is in addition to the 17 or so uncommitted Senators that will be coming out this week as well:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/superdelegates/index.html
Looks like the tidal wave we've all been waiting for might finally be starting.
I've been reading Al Giordano's blog a lot (here's his latest post: http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1302) and he insists that by Friday she will concede. I tend to believe him, no matter what her surrogates are spouting publicly. The Clintons are not stupid and I'm sure privately they are making plans to shut the campaign down. They're not going to go quietly or gracefully, but I believe they will go by the end of the week. So we have just a few more days of drama and then we can (hopefully) unite and start working on beating McCain.
June 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back Carol
June 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there you are! We were about to release the hounds!
The day of your return is positively triumphant!
June 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, welcome back! Not a moment too soon. It's been a trying few weeks up here on the ramparts, deflecting the arrows and torches from all manner of trolls...
June 2, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
'bout time. But I agree that the supers in high places in Congress have played it right by waiting until the end of the game to show their favoritism. After all, they'll have to look at Hillary every day she is in the Senate for the next four years.
June 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Carol - missed ya.
June 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missed you, too, Tena and everybody here (well, missed most of you LOL!). My work/performance schedule has been hell the past month (in addition to daughter issues - that's for another time) and I've had no time other than a few minutes to lurk on my favorite blogs. Things are easing up somewhat, though, so hopefully I can participate more often!
Thanks and hugs!!
June 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Carol, I was wondering where all your insightful info had gone :)
June 2, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Carol, glad to have you back sister, I missed your fire!
June 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back!
June 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just read this:
Now, as Obama and Sen. John McCain look toward the fall, Drudge has emerged unexpectedly as more of a threat to the Republican than to the Democrat. This, combined with the rise of left-leaning sites such as TalkingPointsMemo.com and HuffingtonPost.com — both of which have proved effective in promoting and amplifying a Democratic message — reflects a major shift from the last two presidential elections, a matter of open alarm to Republican strategists and surprised satisfaction to Democrats.
June 2, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Add in Bob Barr!
Add in war crimes indictments (coming in 2009)!
Bob Barr may well end up presiding over the charred remains of the GOP.
June 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't read too much into it. I suggest, read politco with caution. I don't trust them, they're a bunch of MSM losers with a website.
By the Ben Smith (politco) and Jake Tapper (ABC news) together concoct as much shit as drudge does to favor the right wing.
June 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
kash: I know that to be true. Absolutely. But it does add a little a fun along with Barr.
June 2, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10744.html
Link on Drudge.
June 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could you include a link or reference, please?
June 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, just refreshed and got the link.
June 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rep. Clyburn is leading and the South will rise again! Way to go, Jim! I loved the way you dealt with the Clintons is SC and there is a special place for you in the Political Hall of Fame!
June 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You got that right! I wonder if a President Obama will bring him in? If not, he's earned his Senator's stripes this year, if he didn't already have them.
June 2, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone notice that Hillary looks poised to win big time in South Dakota. Look at the polls!
June 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you mean the ARG poll, it has been soundly dismissed as an outlier.
It would also need to mean a diddly-damn, which, in fact, it does not.
June 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Other polls suggest that the O-Man has a comfortable lead in South Dakota.
June 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's from ARG. I'm thinking she'll win SD by less than 10 points and Obama wins MT with more than 10.
June 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash..couldn't agree with you more about Politico and in particular Ben Smith...I sent him an email about his bs and bias...he actually replied and told me that in no way is he biased and that he takes his reporting very seriously. It was worth a good laugh for me.
June 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is SO biased.
June 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, TPM is the best. I hate Huffpo too, it has become a politcal tabloid. Pretty much every headline is fake and overblown.
June 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
HuffPo gave Taylor Marsh a column from the get-go, which tells me everything I need to know about HuffPo.
June 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aye, their embedded comment system is a real CPU hog, mile after mile of meth-posts.
I would not mind seeing a simple abuse/flag system used here, if only to steer mods to issues their users feel need to be addressed.
June 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw that, it was posted earlier. Then a little bit ago Hillary stated that South Dakota will decide which direction the nation wants to go.
But aren't they (South Dakota) totally in the bag for McCain?
June 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a loaded question.
The old maps are not going to work this time. McCain has serious credability problems which are not dishonest, but simply innate. ++past it. He is also going to have a growing Bob Barr Problem. We forget about Ron Paul as well: votes with wings flying away from Sen McCain.
If a Sen Obama created a grass roots org in all 50 states in Act I, I expect him to deploy it again in Act III. Any state could be in play this year. The bad news for the GOP is still in first gear. Losing the seats in the Old Sooth is just the first squirts in the dam.
McConnell in KY is behind. Cornyn in only 4% ahead in TX. IN MAY!!! Incumbents polling in the low 40s in May are fucked. This is part the key GOP power structure in the Senate, and W's key enablers.
It will be up to Sen Obama to bring it all home.
June 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who would have thought in May of 2006 that the Dems could win the Senate? Who would have thought a couple of months ago that GOP Senate seats in places like KY, NC and TX would be in trouble? The times they are a-changin'.
June 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
As they must. 16 years of rudderless govt. is quite enough.
June 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, big suprise! Oh I am so surprised!! oh my! What a HUGE surprise.....
.
Isn't is just like the dumb Dems to nominate the most leftist candidate available as usual?
Even when they had another Clinton available! Clintons were the only dems to hold office for two terms in decades and they just throw it away for a not even one term senator with no experience, a racist church, racist black radical wife, racist pastor, terroist friends, etc., etc......
How much worse could it get? Could they even pick a worse candidate?? Oh, I guess Jimmy Carter was too old and not available.... But Obama would be even worse!
Remember how the Iranian government thumbed their noses at US while they held our hostages and Jimmy Carter could do NOTHING? I think he talked with Amy about it once....
The minute REAGIN took office, they started releasing the hostages. I predict they will try us again if we get Obama in there. They know who he is even if his supporters don't!
I shudder to think........
VOTE MCCAIN IF HILLARY DOESN'T GET NOM!!!
June 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPM: WE NEED A "IGNORE" or "ABUSE" BUTTON TO FLAG TROLLS LIKE THS.
June 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash - no offense, but I'm not a fan of censorship.
I think we can take it- we're big boys and girls. ;)
June 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not cencorship- but self gatekeeping among blogger community. If there is button called "absue" people can still read her comments but also read the fact the majority of bloggers marked it as abusive. I'm against cencorship as well- she can say whatever the hell she can, but we can respond by click of a button rather than by language.
June 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you think this site is only for obama supporters? Typical!
What a jerk!
June 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Struck a nerve, did he?
June 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
No I think this site should flag the junk. You're not anybody's supporters..you're just a racist scum. Hillary or McCain don't deserve your support either. So keep your endorsement in your ass- if they want either of them to win.
June 2, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
i agree with you, there shouldn't be any such feature. it is indeed a form of censorship, and it's easy enough to ignore without some sort of formal mechanism. but your original post is really stupid. you didn't even spell reagan correctly.
June 2, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
casequ:
I disagree with you. Again I'm not recommeding removing comments. People post incredible junk like the idiot in discussion here. If you just ignore and let it go and no one responds, it's like approving her junk and if you respond by language at times it blows out of control. Just having a simple button will help.
June 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
i understand your point and there certainly are plenty of instances when a feature like that would be desired, but i still don't think it's appropriate. and i don't think that ignoring offensive comments condones them. and how many times are they ignored anyway? people seem all too eager to respond to offensive comments. and i have a feeling the people who write them know what the response to them will be. what is the point of flagging them? it's useless, and it could be abused.
June 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course not. But it isn't a place for GOP, racist trolls like yourself though. Most Clinton supporters (i.e. actual Clinton supporters, not GOP trolls) are not racist idiots who will advocate voting for someone (McCain) who is diametrically opposed to everything Clinton advocates for.
June 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
ah contrare my point toothed demon,
you just hate to think that I am just the TIP of the iceberg that will be taking obama down.
LLLOOOLLOLLOLLLOL
YEeeeaaaaaahaaaaaaa!
AND SHE IS EXPECTED TO WIN SOUTH DAKOTA TOMORROW!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
She has won ALL THE BIG IMPORTANT STATES. And McCain's whoopin his ass in Ohio and Florida!!
hahahahahah
ROTFLMAO
June 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
You need to lay down and rest, and be sure to wipe the spittle from your monitor and keyboard.
June 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, an "ignore" feature would do the trick nicely. Individuals can choose to ignore commenters who are routinely stupid or pointless.
June 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
If implemented properly, it would not amount to censorship at the end of the day. The idea is to steer mods to where their users feel there is a real problem. No more binding than that.
June 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that's the concensus, then who am I?
June 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm all for a button that will enable us to abuse trolls.
June 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, you keep doing that and you're going to hurt something. Your face will get stuck in Teh Ugly or sumpin'.
June 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You make no sense, dear, and I'm sure that's the point.
June 2, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you give less than a shit about any of the things Hillary Clinton claims to be a fighter for, up to and including making sure Roe v. Wade is not overturned. For you it is nothing but a vitriolic cult-of-personality fanboy/girl thing and not about positions, principles, policy, or governance.
Any Clinton supporter who claims that they are either sitting it out or voting McCain, who is the polar-opposite of what Clinton says she stands and fights for, is an utter fraud.
So why do you support Clinton yet hate everything Clinton says she is fighting for so much?
How can you really care about what she says she cares about if you are so willing to knowingly work against what Clinton says she is fighting for by either sitting it out or voting McCain?
Either you are a Rush Limbaugh troll, or an intellectually fraud (not that those are mutually exclusive). In either case, you are simply full of shit.
(emphasis mine)
June 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have come to respect and appreciate your rigorous advocacy for this space. Keep that pedal down!
June 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahah LESTAT!!
What did you do copy and paste that krap and save it to respond to me everytime I encourage my fellow Hillary supporters who all plan to vote McCain ??
pretty silly.....
YEEEEAAAAAAHHIIAAAAAA!!
June 2, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I repeat (paste) what I have previously typed to point out (for newbies lurking) or remind anyone and everyone here (non-newbies) the intellectual bankruptcy of your fraudulent foaming at the mouth rants. Because any Clinton "supporter" who claims that they are either sitting it out or voting McCain, who is the polar-opposite of what Clinton says she stands and fights for, is an utter fraud.
So care to actually address the question why you "support" Clinton yet hate everything Clinton says she is fighting for so much?
Care to explain how you really care about what she says she cares about if you are so willing to knowingly work against what Clinton says she is fighting for by either sitting it out or voting McCain?
June 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
who is REAGIN?
June 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is it REAGAN?? wtf difference does it make?
June 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well one was the last name of the 40th President of the United States, the other isn't.*
* This is another in the series of simple answers to dumbfuck questions.
June 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops! Your white hood is showing!
June 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is that, 11 for today?
9 more!
June 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did I miss something, where did you get 11?
June 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe my additions from memory are way off.
What's his total from today?
June 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think like 4 or so.
June 2, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
CT has it below, 6.
June 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
DemCon Watch has 7 declared for Obama today equalling 5.5 votes. Hillary has 2 declared for 2 votes. Obama needs another 39.5 to take the nomination, Hillary needs 200.5.
June 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Off to the liquor store to get a bottle of champange to celebrate tomorrow.
A great victory for the democratic wing of the Democratic party.
Finally after 16 long years, the end of DLC control by the corrupt Clintons.
Eagerly anticipating Billary's concession speech.
JUST CELEBRATE
June 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is a genuine profile in courage moment for Clyburn. The democratic party- no, the country- owes him a debt of gratitude that can never, ever truly be repaid.
"Where do we get such men such as these"?
June 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I could not agree more. Rep Clyburn's standing went up big-time. I wonder if a President Obama has a role for a consumate professional?
I bet he does!
June 2, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guess somebody forget to tell these people that the nomination was over as you all seem to believe.
SINCE June 2008
6/2 Louisiana Democratic Party Chair and Automatic Delegate Chris Whittington Endorses Hillary
6/2 New York Automatic Delegate Endorses Hillary
6/1 17 County Commissioners Endorse Hillary Clinton for President
June 2, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
*yawn*
Wake me when you develop past the emotional age of 14.
June 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
In addition to Clyburn, tomorrow, Obama got, today:
-Florida Party Secretary Janee Murphy.*
-Southfield, Michigan Mayor Brenda Lawrence.*
-Michigan Education Association President Lu Battaglieri.*
-Virginia DNC member Jerome Wiley Segovia. Release here.
-Connecticut Democratic Chair Nancy DiNardo. Release here.
What were you saying, Rae?
June 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ding Dong
and you know the rest
June 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
17 County Commissioners?
Wow!
Any word on who the Game Wardens are supporting?
June 2, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rae, sweetie, here's some hard numbers for ya:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/02/1097390.aspx
They're saying that 34 undeclared SD's from the House will endorse Obama between now and Wednesday (Clyburn being the first). This is in addition to the 17 or so uncommitted Senators that will be coming out this week as well:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/superdelegates/index.html
I'm sorry your candidate lost (although I'm still not convinced that you're a Hillary supporter), but time to take it like a grownup and move on, OK? ;)
June 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ach - silly racists - you've run out of shock value.
June 2, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You know he didn't use a single name, cite a single source in all those things he said.. It's just slimy. It's part of the national media's attempt to nail Hillary for Obama. It's the most biased press coverage in history. It's another way of helping Obama. They had all these people standing up in this church cheering, calling Hillary a white racist, and he didn't do anything about it. The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her. So then they saw the movie they thought this is a great ad for John McCain-- maybe I better quit the church. It's all politics. It's all about the bias of the media for Obama. Don't think anything about it."
This is from Mr. Bill. It was taken out of his long winded response to the article in Vanity Fair!
Who is pleased that Bill will be disappaering from soon....Oh tomorrow night...let's party with Obama in MN...Black Russians are on me....
June 2, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He who laughs LAST laughs LOUDEST!!
LOLOLOLLOLLOLLOOL
just wait......... WHITEY!!
June 2, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your attempts at a video gotcha about Michelle Obama won't work. "Why'd he" is not "whitey".
June 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAHAHA....
Trying to spin it and it ain't even out there yet!! YOu haven't seen it yet you're willing to continue to sell your soul and protect this FUKER oops FAKER!
shame, shame,...... He, AND SHE are black RACIST and they hate WHITEY, they hate YOU. But they'll take your money and they'll take your vote!!
what a bunch of dopes.
June 2, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please take off the boxing gloves if you are going to type.
June 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's hard to type with hooves
June 2, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
child
June 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know to you they're the same because they're both black, but you're getting Michelle Obama confused with George Jefferson sweetie.
June 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDou1bU2zA
June 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haven't you had enough Saturday cartoons, young Missy?
June 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, Rae, honey, I can't even get angry or frustrated with you anymore. How funny - we've been hearing from Larry Johnson (his vile blog is NoQuarter) for months about the "Whitey" video (of course, he has it on good information from people he spoke to who spoke to people who spoke to people who "saw" the video). I mean, come on, now - he needs to shit or get off the pot - if he has the video he needs to release it.
You'll need to do a whole lot better here. If you want to vote for McCain, not a problem - go for it. Just stop spouting the assinine smear bullshit again the Democratic candidate because if you don't, you're going to get eviscerated here.
June 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"whitey"?
roflmao! that's too much - Kramer, dat you?
June 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe RaeKa can go all Road Warrior-ish and will have a few too many and get arrested by the Malibu police and s/he can get belligerent and blame it on the jews.
June 2, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mel, you have a distressing number of such moments - string them together, dude, and you're just flat insane.
June 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Actor?"
"Director?"
We'll form a blog just to debate this!
June 2, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irony in of all this: Raekk is from Germany now settled in WV after living in GA for a while. At least this is what she cliamed at various stages of her journey on TPM.
Tena- I'm still laughting like hell...Kramer dat you...you're one funny lady.
June 2, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
tena...thanks for the huge chuckle...I'm still laughing!
June 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
THE OBAMA WHITEY VIDEO HAS NOW ARRIVED!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhVP7qjfGQ
June 2, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama "Why did he" Video you mean.
June 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is so freaking adorable.
You actually think that Michelle Obama, a Harvard educated lawyer, uses Ebonics!
You are just so cute when you're grasping at straws.
June 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, it makes me want to warm some milk or sumpin.
June 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hate to break it to you, but your little video is gone.
June 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Be sure and get your jumpsuit and nikes on lil' black sheep -- the monthership is almost here!
June 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fire sale of purple cloth squares over at Hillaryland?
June 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even on Ben Smith's blog, i was happy to read this...could it really be..the end................
Obama looks forward to Clinton meeting
Obama, in Michigan, says he expects superdelegates to be "making decisions fairly quickly after" tomorrows votes.
He also said that in their conversation Sunday, he'd apologized for Pfleger's remarks, and more:
I emphasized to her what an extraordinary race that she's run and said that there aren't too many people who understand exactly how hard she's been working. I'm one of 'em because she and I have been on this same journey together, and told her that once the dust settled I was looking forward to meeting with her at a time and place of her choosing.
We've still got two more contests to go and I'm sure that there will be further conversations after Tuesday.
June 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is good news. Here are two people, unique in American history, and this contest will always be something they will share together, a private club of two.
June 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
He always says the right thing and he's very gracious to her.
And I'm very glad he is.
June 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...According to CNN’s Candy Crowley, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will remain uncommitted until Clinton officially drops out of the race..."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/02/sources-most-uncommitted-senators-to-endorse-obama/
OKKK.... so let me get this straight -- if on Tuesday Obama gets enough pledged and SD's for him to cross the line and Ms. Clinton still does not endorse [concede] to Obama -- then the Democratic Party Majority Leader will not give his political blessing for us to rally around our presumptive nominee...
freakin' Great.
June 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is amazing that he is actually wimpier than he looks and sounds.
June 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reid is just not the guy for that job.
June 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, saw that too...I am now thinking that she will drop out
that she' been shut down and warned , she knows the numbers of supers coming out etc..and that it is being handled the way it is right now so she has space and saves face
if the campaigns are already making deals and conversations are being reported...what else could happen??
I hope this is not wishful thinking
June 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Duh.
June 2, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yes. You've finally realized the inanity of your own rants. This is good.
June 2, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, very pithy, gotalife. All the wind's been knocked out of your sails, huh? Not to worry ... it's a big tent and we "Obamabots" will welcome you with open arms (unless you're a Republican troll, and then we'll decimate you)! ;)
June 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
nice.
I understand why the tpm stalwarts are happy to see you back. :)
June 2, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe this resident GOP troll's droppings (gotnolife) will finally collapse into a commenting singularity.
June 2, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everybody knew he played the race card on President Clinton and would support Obama.
Duh.
June 2, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really?
Clyburn is able to drink a water and have his words come out of Bill Clinton's mouth?
June 2, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The esteemed Rep Clyburn needs Bill Clinton like McCain needs a few more years of "experience."
Give it up, Old Hoss. She lost.
June 2, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Duh.
Now that Barack has tha nomination wrapped up, Goatlife will have to spend the rest of the year thumpin' his pud.
Duh.
June 2, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has this been posted here anywhere? Near the bottom of Nate's post he lists ten supers who will declare Tuesday. Minus Clyburn, that's nine.
June 2, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
From Huffington Post:
June 2, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Olbermann just said that all campaign staff has been told to turn in their expense reports by the end of the week.
She's done.
June 2, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fitting. I am glad Sen Clinton stayed in it until the end. She made her full case, and Sen Obama has been picked over like ants at a picnic. She was loyal to her supporters to the last, which is what they wanted, and needed. The meeting on Saturday, despite the blowhards, was democracy in action.
It may take dems their sweet ass time coming to a decision, and watching someone like Alice Huffman switch her support mid-stride was both amazing and instructive (you could tell because she became the target of the cat-calls), but to a decision they have come, for all to see, faults and all.
And this simply cannot be good news for Sen McCain, and his broke and busted GOP.
June 2, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Take heart, Obama supporters - we're almost there!!
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/were-almost-the.html
Get that champagne out - there will be something to celebrate tomorrow night (and if not tomorrow night, then most definitely by Friday!) ;)
June 2, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've never read anything so beautiful in my life.
June 2, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You and me both, Hyper - Go Obama!! YES! WE! CAN! ;)
June 2, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed out on the love fest up-thread (I was out all day doing research) but good to have you back, Carol!.
June 2, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw - I'm really feelin' the love tonight!! Thanks, guys - you really make a gal feel special! ;)
June 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep dreamin.....
He'll not take Ohio, he'll not take Fla....
He'll not take the White house. PERIOD....
June 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Silly Troll know nothing about Ohio.
If it did, it would know that Ohio has been trending Democratic since 2004, and Obama is either ahead, or statistically even with it's hero, McSame in the latest statewide polls.
Throw in Bob Barr for a few %, and Gramps is in a heap of trouble in Ohio.
June 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
RaeK is gonna be REALLY, REALLY SORRY when President Obama appoints Mumia as Secretary of the Department of Kill Whitey.
You're already on the list, RaeK.
June 2, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL
oh jenn that was just plain Art...
June 2, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I am LOVING the whole racist heads exploding aspect of this campaign. I've been crowing for months about how badass it's gonna be living in the United States of SHAFT!
June 2, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
"They call it the White House, but that's a temporary condition." - George Clinton
...Now there's one Clinton I'll be *happy* to see again. The rest of them... not so much.
June 2, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
President Obama will create a new cabinet position and title for George Clinton, who will be appointed Lord High Flashmaster of Funk.
June 2, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
A good friend of mine was in Atlanta last week for a National School District Administrator's Conference on AIDS Education, and he told me of a bumper-sticker he saw on the back of a pick-up truck two white guys were sporting while driving in the city. It read:
June 2, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFLMAO, Jenn!!! That was inspired! :P
June 2, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hello Carol. Welcome back. You were missed.
June 2, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Touché.
June 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah well it won't be the first list I got on!
I been on the list long time now....
June 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Such as no-fly lists, do not allow this person sharp object lists, registered sex-offender lists?
Do tell.
June 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
eeeeeewwwww
Keith has this wretched McBush pic of W's face and McCain's hair and it just creeps me the fuck out...
June 2, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another SD for Obama. David McDonald, Rules committee member from Washington State.
This is over 2 hours old, but I don't see it anywhere else on TPM.
June 2, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the latest SD endorsement update from DemConWatch:
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
So Obama got 7 SD endorsements today (a total of 5.5 votes because the 2 Michigan and 1 Florida SD get 1/2 vote each). We should see a steady stream tomorrow and Wednesday - woohoo!!
June 2, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
7 SDs today + the 18 House members Chuck Todd said will endorse tomorrow + SD + MT = we got ourselves a nominee!
June 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget 34 House members. From what I heard Andrea Mitchell say, they are the ones who may move as early as tomorrow night. The senators are likely to move Wednesday.
June 2, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
34?
Jed Report above says 18. I have no idea either way.
June 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the link to the MSNBC report, hyper:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/02/1097390.aspx
Happy happy joy joy!!
June 2, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's such a pure and all-encompassing sense of joy.
I can't fucking wait.
June 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrea Mitchell said 34 in the House. I think the 18 were from the Senate.
June 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beautiful.
June 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I took your lead (and Tena's).......
June 2, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robert Byrd's been hospitalized.
June 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strangely enough, Byrd's hospitalization occured not long after Dick Cheney aimed a joke at West Virginians and Byrd blasted him for it.
http://wvgazette.com/latest/200806020512
June 2, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney is a fucking disgusting, vile, evil being (I won't even call him human) - of all the assholes in this administration I will be most happy to see that mofo go. He's an abomination and a disgrace.
June 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carol, you're being nice! ;)
June 2, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
June 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC - Sen Byrd enters the hospital "sluggish, lethargic, and with a fever."
June 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhVP7qjfGQ
June 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rae, you already posted this and it wasn't funny the first time, and it's less funny the second time around. That all ya got??
June 2, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhVP7qjfGQ
June 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
What next, 'I know you are but what am I... INFNITY!'?
June 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, you're so cute! ;)
June 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can feel it...Everyone wants her gone
Sweet
June 2, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. DNC member Jerome Wiley Segovia of Virginia.
2. Democratic State Party Chairwoman Nancy DiNardo.
3. Southfield Mayor Brenda Lawrence, and Michigan
4. Education Association President Lu Battaglieri
5. House Majority Whip James Clyburn
6. David McDonald, Rules committee member from Washington State.
Someone on here said that MSNBC reported that Obama got 5 SDs last night - any confirmation of that?
June 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I posted this upthread, but DemConWatch is saying that he got 7 today (a total of 5.5 votes because the 2 Michigan and 1 Florida SD get 1/2 vote each):
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
According to them, he got one SD endorsement yesterday and one add-on.
Go Obama!! ;)
June 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Democrats! ;)
June 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm a feelin it! This is going to be one heck of a GE!!!
June 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait for the first debate - can you just picture Obama and McCain on the same stage? Obama - tall, cool, graceful, youthful; and McCain - stiff, halting, not exactly young? It's gonna be fun!! And he won't pull a Gore and get all arrogant and impatient (remember the rolling eyes?) He'll be deferential and respectful but will damn him with faint praise, and McCain won't even know what hit him! ;)
June 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm guessing the moderators will need spittle shields. McCain will be spewing!
June 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just saw that.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that enough of these supers will stop being cowards and come out before the polls close tomorrow night.
June 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
And don't forget those 17 or so Senators that CNN reported on (and I think Chuck Todd said there are actually about 34 House members, of which at least 18 or so will come out tomorrow and the rest on Wednesday!!)
June 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
!!!!!!!
I wish we all lived closer together.
June 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
WHAT>>>/?????!!!!!
watcha scared of ? Huh???
You worried Darlin??
June 2, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
gettin nervous eh??
LOLLOLLO
Little scared are ya???
poor darlin.... it'll be alright....
June 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh?
June 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rae, honey, a little projection, maybe? Latching onto a fictional video of Michelle Obama saying "Whitey" (which we've been hearing about now for months but which no one has physically produced) seems a little desperate and fear-driven to me. Hyper doesn't seem scared to me - he (and most other people here) just want this damned thing to be over so we can concentrate on beating McCain in November.
Take a deep breath and relax. Everything's going to be OK - I promise.
June 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah Rea, it'll all be ok.
As a lyricist aptly penned:
"Hey, don’t be afraid
Don’t try to run away
Because pain can be your friend [Rae]
As it explains
The answers to your questions
Consoles you in blue reflections
Listens to your soul’s confessions
Then leads you in new directions
So open your heart again [Rae]
And feel the walls dissolve
Something’s whispering to you
It’s time to let go [Rae]
Because the only thing that stays the same
is that everything must change
Everything must change [Rae]
Hey, embrace your pain [Rae]
You cannot run away [Rae]
And pain can be your friend"
Enjoy the coming change RaeK!
June 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, DemCon Watch says he got 2 yesterday - Yvonne Gates (DNC Member from NV) and Gwethalyn Phillips, and add-on from Maine.
June 2, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dan Abrams: Is she out within 36 hours?
Chris Matthews: Yes, because there are no more events after tomorrow.
June 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh, I can't get this thought out of my head today....that Clinton is going to do something very Lieberman-ish after her defeat in the Democratic primary.
Probably, the unwelcome thought formed from visiting the Hillary die-hard sites where the most prevalent comments are the new mantras of 'we prefer McCain to Obama', 'we are Americans before we are Democrats', 'the Democratic Party left us'.....all of which so exactly follows the Democratic party dissing coming from Joementum who we know is choosing McCain.
I personally worry that Hillary is so addicted to the limelight and so enjoys jerking folks around that she might not be able to let go cold turkey. Would she succumb to a last temptation to jump to the head of a parade started by her insane followers as they organize their own joementum ugliness?
June 2, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be political suicide for Hillary. She has no support on the right and, were she to make such a move, she would have little or none on the left. Don't think there's enough support for her in the center, either.
June 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's really between a rock and a hard place, which is likely what is driving her refusal to concede. She's dead-ended in the Senate as a very junior senator, has no prospects for bones getting tossed her way, and has poisoned the well so badly that she'd be like kryptonite to Obama's people. They could hold their noses and throw her something, but she's likely to understand that such an offer would be akin to an obligatory booby prize.
This stuff must be so corrosive she can feel it eating her from the inside out.
June 2, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
lightiris, I think you helped focus this a bit, my thought about Hillary trying something Lieberman-ish:
"She's really between a rock and a hard place......... has no prospects for bones getting tossed her way"
Lieberman promised to caucus with the Democrats in the Senate, and got thrown and keeps his continued important chairmanship, in spite of his dissing of fellow Dems.
Hillary could play this by refusing to concede until the convention, all the while fomenting her Joementum supporters all summer long while she herself 'promises' to be a good Dem.....exactly to try to get bones tossed her way.
June 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg Sargent Remember I requested you to make a thread on a vanity fair story on Saturday?
It has had its ripple effects and Bill may make headlines in the next 24 hours.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/bill-clinton-purdhum-a-sl_b_104771.html
Mayflower from Huffpo was also the one who wrote the story involving Obama's "bitter" comments.
Bill has officially gone insane.
June 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
As much as I dislike Bill Clinton for the dishonest and contemptible way he's campaigned for Hillary, I dislike this retched Huffington Post blogger more.
Mayhill Fowler is an unethical, lying hack who has no business being published on any reputable news site.
June 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meaning, I wouldn't necessarily believe her take on things. She has lied before, about Obama campaign events and what's gone on there and more.
She's the one who pretends to be an Obama supporter and yet every article she writes about his somehow tries to diminish him..
She's also the one who taped him at the S.F. fundraisers ("bitter" comments).
June 2, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
joshua,
Not defending Mayflower, but did you read this yet? If Bill did say this today, he's a bit off his rocker and it's a HUGE attack on Obama (emphasis below is mine):
I read that as a real slam of Obama. And, according to the HuffPo site, there's audio to come.
June 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, honestly, I think Bill's neurological and behavioral problems are really becoming worse - and I think it all stems from his bypass (there are studies that have shown that people that have had heart operations have experienced neurological difficulties - I know we had this conversation a couple of months ago here). When I saw him rip Chris Wallace a new one on Fox News (God, how long ago was that - last year?), I cheered but I also thought, "wow, that's not the Bill Clinton I know". He's really becoming unhinged, perhaps from a combination of exhaustion, frustration, grief and whatever neurological problems occurred from his surgery. It's sad, whatever the reasons. He needs a long vacation on a tropical island somewhere.
June 2, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You could be right, but I'll say this - it hasn't slowed him down much since he's running around with a group of extremely high living bachelors and assorted international trash.
June 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, upon further consideration, I think Bill knows exactly what he's doing here. He's basically saying that Obama was behind the Pfleger comments. And he knows the Obama and Hillary campaigns have either negotiated or are negotiating an end. And he knows Obama won't do or say anything to hamper what has been or is being negotiated. Obama will let this go like water off a duck's back.
Meanwhile, this just adds fuel to the fire for the Harriet Christians of the world.
Here's my guess: Hillary has not been invited to be a part of the Obama administration in any form. She will be tepid about her support. And she'll work subtly for --- and pray for --- a trainwreck that will throw the Democratic nomination up for grabs in 2012.
I know that sound grassy knolly, but it's worth thinking about.
June 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, upon still further reflection, maybe it's an attempt to leverage the VP thing.
June 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be right --- and, of course, the VF mentions just that as a possibility --- but the above is still a helluva accusation.
June 2, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
In fact, Carol, if this stuff about Bill is true, it makes hypocrites out of every one of Hillary's rabid feminist followers.
That's the kind of crowd that if I caught my husband running around with them, I'd divorce him in 2 minutes and take everything. That's just In Your Face, Beyotch!
June 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know what you mean - it's always amazed me that she has such fervent followers who claim to be feminists - she is absolutely no poster child for feminism, that's for sure! Between the "stand by your man" bullshit post-Monica and riding her husband's coattails into power, I can't understand what they see in her other than maybe a generational thing. I really just don't get it - yes, she is pro-choice and she gave a speech overseas about women's rights, but really, I've never felt that she had tremendously strong feminist tendencies.
June 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I'm NOT saying he didn't say these things, but who knows what she did or said to get him to say it.
The woman has no ethics.
Also, I'm not sticking up for Bill. He has lost it. Everything he accuses others of doing is a projection of the things he has actually done.
;-)
June 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I shall reserve judgement until the audio appears, but I will say that I have been trying my best to understand what Bill must be going through - how difficult it must be to watch your spouse lose something that he/she has been working for their entire lives - and it must be even worse if you might be partly responsible in some way. I've gone from being disgusted with him to just kind of being sad for him - he just seems like such a caricature of his former self.
June 2, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Audio's up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/bill-clinton-purdhum-a-sl_b_104771.html
June 2, 2008 11:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
She didn't write the article, Josh - Todd Purdum did. Former NYT reporter, one of the asst. editors at Vanity Fair, now, I think.
June 2, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no. Not the VF article -- that's not hers -- just the article on his reaction to it over at HuffPo.
June 2, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep - :)
June 2, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Purdum is apparently married to Dee Dee Meyers - so, even though she had nothing to do with the story, I'm sure she is now a "Judas", too. Is there a female form of "Judas"?
June 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Judette?
June 2, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh, Mayhill Fowler is a joke, I totally agree with you. And NO WAY does she support Obama. And what is with her credentials? She has none.
She should be thrown off Huff Post. Her articles suck.
June 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't she vile?
What a piece of worthless being she is.
June 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
More on Byrd's hospitalization.
http://wvgazette.com/latest/200806020650
Not a lot of detail yet.
June 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carville was on CNN this afternoon and Blizter asked him about the Vanity Fair article. Carville made sure to say he is friends with the writer then went on to say that there is nothing in the article that hasn't been heard at DC cocktail parties for over a year and that Vanity Fair has a history with Hollywood. Then he went into the talking point about Bill Clinton's post-Presidency work.
It was really a very tortured non-denial. The Clinton's have a glass jaw on this issue because none of their friends are willing to uncategorically deny what is in the article. The best they can do is attack the messenger and shift to Clinton's work.
I'm not sure Bill's scumbaggery would have been enough to cost Hillary the White House, but it sure looks like it would have made it pretty scary. I really hoped that old age and public humuliation had taught Bill a lesson, but his self-victimization over his affairs in his book gave me pause. He talked in pop-psychology terms about his affair with Lewinski and did not sound like a grown man taking responsibility for not being able to stay faithful to his wife.
Either way, I hope this ends talk of a unity ticket. Obama should offer her something, but not being part of the ticket.
June 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hell, even the six-page memo from Clinton's office didn't deny any facts in the article!
June 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this was the freight train I could see bearing down on us if Clinton had gotten the nomination.
Among others.
June 2, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Al Giordano from The Field has made his predictions for Montana and South Dakota:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1304
So he thinks Obama will get a total of 17 delegates. According to DemConWatch, he needs 39.5, so if Al's predictions hold up he will need 22.5 superdelegates to get to the fabled 2117. Between the 34 House members and the 17 or 18 Senators that are reportedly ready to go tomorrow and Wednesday, he should have no problem getting there. And I would venture a guess that the remaining undeclared SD's will come out shortly after the voting ends tomorrow.
Also, Al had a post last week about a 40-delegate contingent from California that is set to flip their endorsements from Clinton to Obama:
Here's the link to the entire post:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1258
Al's predictions and sources have been remarkably spot-on this entire primary season, so I'm confident that he'll be correct for the last 2 contests. Let's see how many SD's endorse tomorrow - get ready for a great speech tomorrow nite!
June 2, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
If they don't endorse before the polls close, I'd imagine they will shortly after. I have almost no doubt that Obama will get to 2018 (or whatever it is) tomorrow night.