BET Founder Johnson: I Have "No Doubt" That Hillary Told Me She'd Take Veep Slot If Offered
Black Entertainment Television founder Robert Johnson, a prominent Hillary supporter, just told me in an interview that he has "no doubt" that Hillary privately assured him that she would definitely take the veep slot if Obama offered it to him.
Johnson has launched a public campaign to push the idea of a joint Obama-Hillary ticket. As I noted below, Johnson had some comments buried in a Washington Post write-up of the story that really jumped out and demanded further attention.
Specifically, Johnson revealed to WaPo that Hillary had privately told him that he'd take the veep slot if asked, and also let it be known that Hillary had authorized him to launch the campaign. Though these comments weren't highlighted in the piece, they seemed like the real news, so I asked Johnson whether he stood by this.
"She said, if she's offered it, she would feel compelled to take it in the best interest of the party to make sure that we have a unified ticket," Johnson told me, further paraphrasing Hillary's remarks to him as follows: "If I'm offered it, I'm compelled to take it, because we need to win."
Asked if he had any doubt whatsoever that Hillary was telling him definitively that she would take the veep slot, Johnson told me: "No doubt." Johnson added that she had made the comments to him in Puerto Rico on Saturday.
Johnson also reiterated that she'd unequivocally authorized him to launch his campaign. "I heard that she had told the New York delegation that she would definitely consider the Vice Presidency," Johnson said. "I said, `You want me to do it today?' She said, `No, do it tomorrow.'"
That stuff, to me, seems like the news here.















Yes, and if she really want it, he's the just the guy to ensure it doesn't get done.
June 4, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same Bob Johnson who compared Obama to Sydney Poitier in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygsu735nccM
June 4, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same mysoginist Bob Johnson? Have you seen what this guy puts on TV?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1a0-qiAmGo
June 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I talked to the clintons also and they said that they want to abolish the constitution and declare a dynasty. Do you want to report this? Hello, I think not.
Talk about no credibility, johnson has as much credibility as the king. Give me a break.
June 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
In my dream scenario, Barack Obama would answer Mr. Johnson like this: "Bob Johnson? The same guy who owned a network that set black people back 20 years with its minstrelsy and sub-par Hip Hop? Bob Johnson, the same guy who insinuated that I was a drug dealer a few months back? I know that this isn't very presidential, but FUCK Bob Johnson - please quote me on that!"
June 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was the only place you could see the C.R.E.A.M video in the early 90's, though. You have to give him that.
June 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very true Kenny..lol
June 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Paster Pfleger said he has "no doubt" that Hillary feels she's entitled to some part of the Democratic nomination because I'm white and a woman.
Why has the media given a pass to Bob Johnson after those disparaging remarks he made about Obama. But nearly crucified Paster Pfleger for going after Hillary.
June 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just ANOTHER example of the poor execution and strategy of the Clinton camp. The only persons WORSE than Bob Johnson to head up this effort is Lanny Davis and Joe Wilson.
She's not going to be VP.
June 4, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are assuming that the clintons want this fruit cake to do what he is doing. The guy is a buffoon.
June 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just realized a startling parallel:
Hillary Clinton = Brittney Spears
Team Clinton = Sam Lutfi
TPM = TMZ
June 4, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Can you even imagine her negotiating with other countries...all the mixed messages, the confusion, etc. What a mess.
June 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I must respectfully disagree with my esteemed colleague. After seeing last night's Daily Show, it is clear that the worst possible choice to lead the Clinton For VP campaign would be Terry McAuliffe. Therefore, we can be sure that Terry McAuliffe will be Hillary's guiding light.
Ssssh. Don't tell Terry. He may have a few shreds of dignity left; let's watch them burn away.
June 4, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
How long before McCauliffe checks into rehab?
June 4, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd forgotten about Terry.
June 4, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, any chance that tpm could recognize in some way the historic significance of what obama has accomplished? I really don't get it. Are you guys that crass and shallow. Not one post of history being made or that this is an historic moment not only in US history, but in the history of the western world. Any chance of that guys? It seems kind of silly not to recognize what just happened, don't you think?
I mean the bozo johnson is getting more time on this site than one itty, bitty reference to the historic nature of the nomination of the first african-american to a major party in history. Come on, that's really absurd.
June 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fat chance, but maybe from Josh on the front page at some point.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
June 4, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really is sad.
June 4, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was cocaine involved in the decision to make Bob Johnson the guy to lobby for this idea?
June 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
vp posts quota reached!
June 4, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Typo:
Clinton is apparently angling for the #2 slot. Why, I don't know, because I don't think it's a good move for either. But perhaps she thinks it would be validation of her campaign...
June 4, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't look like it's happening - more people are coming out saying Hillary's strategy for gaining the Veep is exactly how not to do it.
She's not done one thing right if that's what she was looking for. If that was it, she should have conceded last night, with a great deal of grace.
She didn't. And now it's all threats and attempts to box him in and people are starting to push back.
She hasn't done much of anything right throughout this campaign, and that's a fact; except to stir up some "white working class voters" trouble, when she could.
June 4, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jimmy Carter said the word, he is absolutely right.
June 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Adding Hillary to the ticket allows the GOP to attack both, and use her lightning-rod personna to rally their base. It would likely weaken Obama's chances of winning in November to have her on the ticket.
June 4, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
I think Michael A's question is an excellent one. You can write a long piece about Johnson, whom everyone know is crazy and do not mention ANYTHING about the historic moment today of Barack's nomination. As an African-American I find such omission at best insensitive.
June 4, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right.
June 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me stand on this with you and Michael A. If Hillary as the first woman had gotten the nomination last night, we'd likely see that covered as history making in every way possible with multiple posts. Instead, we get multiple posts about Hillary as veep....but not a single focus posting on the history making Obama nomination.
June 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been trying to think of a response and unfortunately I can't other than sorry. I will tell you that pretty much all commentors on this site and good and patriotic americans recognize this incredible and historic feat. Unfortunately, there will be some that don't. However, the history books will never forget and we are just beginning this chapter in our history. Go Obama!
June 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hope this clears things up for you, Greg.
June 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still am amazed that she authorized Johnson to do this in Puerto Rico...that she has once again rip offed her supporters. Does anyone else have feel on the report that Obama has already told her no to the VP position weeks ago? In her irrational mind, her beviors would make more sense about this really half baked destructive public push for the VP slot!
greg..you did pick up on the key points of this story in my mind.
June 4, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is the problem with all this speculation. Johnson is a crazy loon. He has no credibility. I find it hard to believe that the clintons would trust this guy with any inside info or ask him to campaign for her to be vp. Possible, but doubtful.
June 4, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
A counter-example in two words.
Mark. Penn.
June 4, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Touche!
June 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I imagine what she wants is to be publicly offered or privately guaranteed the VEEP slot before she will concede.
But I wonder how willing she and Bill would be to undergo the vetting process. Will Bill hand over the names of all his foundation and library donors and the details on his business dealings with Burkle? Will he be willing to hand over his travel records of the past eight years? Or will they insist that they have been "vetted" already and should be offered the position blind?
Imagine what a fit they would have if he offered it to her and said that they had failed the vetting process, as they no doubt would by any objective standard. The goal is to pick a VP with no exploitable weakness.
Remember that the secret service has intimate knowledge of both their activities of the last eight years and that they report to Michael Chertoff. Remember that Hillary has a reputation, at least, of abusing her secret service detail. Obama claimed not to have people doing any oppo-research on Hillary's non-political life, and it doesn't seem like he has. But the Republicans have been doing that research for eight years. So the Republicans no doubt know far more dirt on the Clintons than Obama does.
June 4, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is absolutely a buffoon! I have a few other choice words to describe him but I don't want to waste digital ink on him.
June 4, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still all about Hillary on TPM, even though she is the loser. Hillary's Sargent at Arms will make sure that she gets the Lion's share of TPM coverage.
Obama you say. TPM is not sure who he is.
June 4, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Charles Barkley has a better handle on how things are going in the Clinton camp:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/charles-barkley-sums-up-tonigh.php
June 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
O my fracking gods that is hilarious!
June 4, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
We Auburn guys know how to put things in perspective!
The Round Mound of Profound!
(Albeit slightly inaccurate.)
:)
June 4, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It ain't happenin', Bob.
June 4, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Johnson's tour of the all the major media sites today reminds me of William H. Ginsburg, Monica Lewinsky's preening, self-infatuated lawyer. The guy is definitely in love with his own importance, and the message he's claiming to deliver seems to be at odds with what a lot of other Clinton confidantes (eg, Rendell) are saying. I guess owning a tv station does not make one immune from lusting after media attention.
June 4, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breaking News
ABC NEWS: CLINGTON QUITTIN ON FRIDAY
June 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is the link
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4996520&page=1
June 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will never happen. Greg Sargent will not allow her to do it. He would have nothing to write about then.
Wait; yes he would. He would keep on writing odes to every burb and fart that continued to emanate from the body Hillary.
June 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just. Say. No.
June 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This story is clearly about attention for Bob Johnson now, not about Hillary. I'd suggest that's the answer to the question of "why would they send this clown to do this job?"
June 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI -- I will be using the phrase "PANTIES ON THE HEAD!" for at least the rest of this week.
June 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dood,
Frat parties aren't torture!
June 4, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bob Johnson, Lanny Davis, Terry McAuliffe, Harold Ickes, Big Time Money Moguls, and the Clinton Apparachniks et al, are in the last throes of their tenure as Democratic Party power brokers. These soon to be EX-Party Big Wigs are trying to push Sen. Clinton onto the ticket as their only path to relevancy moving forward.
This is about Power (Capital P), and after nearly a generation of controlling the machinery of the Democratic Party they are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the completion of the cleansing of the party begun by Gov. Howard Dean almost four years ago.
June 4, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nailed it.
June 4, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you want to see something pathetic, head over to Halperin's spot and check out the RNC's attempt at linking Obama to Rezko. It's just plain terrible.
June 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I can't stand that guy either. WTF. I know that I am a left-winger, but give me a break. When you look at the facts and see his incredible spin on them it's pathetic. I really wish that "journalists" would report 90% facts and 10% opinion so that you can draw your own conclusions. However, the reality is the exact reverse. It's 90% opinion and 10% facts. Pathetic.
June 4, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
from ABC NEWS:
Sen. Hillary Clinton will hold an event with supporters by Friday, likely ending her historic bid for the White House and ceding the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, ABC News has learned.
link: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4705151&page=1
June 4, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better late than never, but she should have done that last night. What a moron. By the way, I'll believe it when I see it with my own lying eyes. The story is more of a history of what went on then support for the claim in the first two sentences. Bottom line, until it comes out of the clintons lips on national tv, I won't believe it. And even if it did, they would still lie about it if they changed their minds.
June 4, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton should not accept if it is offered.
She would more effecive as Senate Majority leader than as Obama's lawn jockey.
June 4, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say she would be more effective as dog catcher. She would never get to be majority leader in a million years. Sorry.
June 4, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talk about jumping the line!
June 4, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
No shit! LOL!
June 4, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a little too late to start pretending to be Sen Clinton supporter again. The cat is out of the bag with respect to you being a Repug troll.
June 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
36 of 49 in seniority. She doesn't have the pull to be Senate Majority Leader. Now Dodd maybe. Reid's definitely got to go.
June 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's just get this straight, once and for all: Barack Obama should not, and will not, offer the vice-presidency to Hillary Clinton. Doing so would be one of the most bone-headed and asinine acts ever committed by a politician: Barack Obama is neither bone-headed nor asinine. Q.E.D., no Vice-Presidency offer.
June 4, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find her answer: "I'd take it if it was the best thing to help us beat John McCain" really dirty.
But if she or anyone else thought that Obama would be easily intimidated - they need to talk to Lieberman, stat.
LOL!
June 4, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a very simple solution to the Clinton dilemma, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet (to my knowledge).
Spending 8 years with the Clintons would be no picnic for anyone, and I doubt that she would really be necessary after several months of campaigning against McCain. I don't think older Americans in particular are going to be all that divided when they see the difference in the two health care proposals between Obama and McCain, nor will women.
Which brings me to my point. Obama should offer Hillary Clinton a cabinet-level post as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Given the choice between ambition and caring about the welfare of hard-working Americans, I'm sure she'd stay in the Senate.
Obama will seem gracious for offering, Clinton will be lessened by declining. Which seems just, considering the awkward position she is putting him in currently. Even if she accepts, she and Bill would still be forced to leave the White House on at least a nightly basis.
June 4, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought the old adage was if you campaign for the VP spot you won't get it. Which is why all the top contenders usually say they don't want it.
June 4, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good Point. Go Jim Webb! Obama/Webb 08!
June 4, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Webb, Edwards, Warner, Biden and even Gore have all said they don't want it.
June 4, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG, OMG, this impossibly sleazy fool is Clinton's go-to man for the VP push... I can't stop laughing, I can't. And for the first time I think that Ionesco, or Jarry or some master of the absurd was in charge of the Clinton campaign all along. What's the word for this?? The one that means, sad, mad and pathetic all at once?
June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary SHOULD NOT NOT get into Obama's ticket.
If the ticket won, Obama will get the credit.
If the ticket lost, they will BLAME Hillary.
June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
She wants to be VP. Fine. Fill out an application and agree to allow Ken Starr to do the vetting. He would only have to go back ten years.
June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it was clear when Terry McCauliffe went on cable news the day after NC and talked about what a great VP she would be that this was plan B. Also when Bill started talking about it.
But what I have heard this evening is that the VP vetting process would request the list of Clinton library donors and put Bill's dealings under close scrutiny which she is likely to back away from.
June 4, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I saw BET founder earlier I just skip over the piece knowing it was bullshit and it it IS.
Senator Clinton would feel "compelled to take it in the best interest of the party". Yeah, right. First Senator Clinton is never ever "compelled" to do anything ESPCIALLY for the party. Also, why would she put Bob Johnson in charge of her VP campaign. She already has enough boneheads in her employment to run her VP campaign. I think this is just bogus drug induced crap. (not you Greg, Johnson)
June 4, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
As somone who lives in Charlotte, NC the home of Bob Johnson's basket ball team I have some news for him. Barack Obama won over 70 percent of the vote here in Charlotte. For the last few years you have been trying to get people to come to your teams games. Going against the will of the people is exactly what led to the demise of the Hornets here in Charlotte. Bob, shut the heck up and go back to work. We do not need you pushing for this self absorbed person to be VP.
June 4, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree - no to Hillary Clinton as running mate. With her "white voters" statement (based in fact or not), Clinton demostrated at least a certain tone deafness. If she has inroads to this segment of voters, then she can share that insight and leverage with the ticket, leading to a win for Obama in November.
If Hillary were chosen as the veep candidate, the Republicans will rev up their Clinton hate engines, and we're in a mess. When I voted *for* Obama, I considered Senator Clinton's and her husband's baggage as too much for the Presidential run.
Versus the good values I know she possesses, this was a cold calculation, but I think realistic. In my opionion if she were the nominee, the issues that make a Democratic victory very likely would have been lost in the Republican ad hominem garbage (and I don't overlook the possibility of racist whispers and innuendo garbage instead).
I believe Hillary C. truly wants and supports a Democratic victory. She can lead with her strengths: fund raising and appealing to "Reagan democrats", and not insignificantly, women. Do Democrats need to lose even a small segment of these voters who want to leave angry and dissapointed? Perhaps, even a few of those who never voted for Democrat could understand the message Hillary could bring. We need work that gives the Obama-??? ticket the high ground. Who better to get it done than Hillary Clinton?
Some would say this is putting her to the side to do thankless work, i.e. "woman's work". I for one would give her my deep thanks if it gets the job done. Certainly loot and leadership won't be wanting against a deep well of Republican money and the trickery and lies it funds. Look at the impact Ted Kennedy has had across the board after losing to Carter in '80.
Hillary can have a very important role and impact on this election and in the future, but not as running mate in 2008.
June 4, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today is a perfect example of why she won't be on the ticket. His win is the most amazing, historic accomplishment in recent history. And yet all anyone is talking about is Hillary. You just can't have a VP that can and will upstage you so dramatically. And then there's the power VP push, once again you can't have a VP that will ensure a pattern of power struggles.
June 4, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink