THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

The thing is it could actually help Obama with the Jewish community if they knew that he was actively being swiftboated. But of course that would throw Clinton (a democrat - yeah right) under the bus. Can't have that.

It will be interesting how they actually pull this off. How can Hillary or Bill campaign for Obama? After all the whisper campaigns to these groups, can they really put on the smiley face and praise Obama up and down without looking like total liars to these groups?

I look forward to seeing how they try to squeeze their filthy toothpaste back in the tube.

I don't see Obama choosing Hillary as VP or even Bill campaigning for him, after this.

It seems like the Clintons are more trouble than they are worth, in terms of what they can do for Obama. Certainly, they aren't trustworthy. Since Bill can't even be trusted not to put his foot in it for wife, how could he be trusted not to sabotage Obama's campaign?

Sorry for the double post.

Re: "All is well, all is well, and all matters of things are well."

I think read some where, that the quote was one of Jackie Kennedy's favorite's but I don't remember where it comes from. Can you tell me?

The year was 1992, the opponent was Paul Tsongas.

The Clintons took Tsongas' Gulf War position and a few out-of-context quotes and old Senate votes, turned them into scary leaflets and blanketed heavily Jewish areas with them. Then, days before the Florida primary, they sent in a New York congressman named Stephen Solarz to ratchet up the scare tactics to absurd—but, again, devastating-heights.

Linking opposition to the Gulf War to Israel's security was inflammatory and disingenuous, and Bill Clinton had only begun praising the war after it was fought and won. But the tactic worked.

Tsongas was thrown on the defensive, forced to rebut each supposed example of his "softness" on Israel manufactured by the Clintons, drowning out his own message. All the while, Bill Clinton fulminated against the press, fuming about its supposed favoritism toward Tsongas-a tactic that spurred much of the press to prove its fairness by treating Clinton's sham attacks as a straightforward policy dispute.

Jewish voters turned on Tsongas and flocked to Mr. Clinton, who won Florida, and the Tsongas campaign was effectively finished.

http://www.observer.com/2008/once-again-clinton-muddies-war-issue

It takes some work for me to dig up my password here, so I do not say this lightly. This story stinks. If he didn't get back to you, then why publish this crap. This place feels like pox news. Yep, THIS is the shit they thrive on. News that takes no work to do, and leaves the consumer with no better understanding of anything.

I came to the tubes to find out shit that I can't find out on tv/in the checkout lane.

TPM was the first political blog I found a year and a half ago. You guys set the standard (in my eyes) for the vibrant, interactive, informative community on the innernetss that made me love politics [more].

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?

People who witness aganist the Clinton's have a way of dying,he probably was warned (threatened)
to shut up.

I have proof of this Clinton behavior

youtube search: the clinton chronicles 1-11,the mena connection,see for yourself how many people lost their lives.

.The Clinton's don't get mad they get even!!!

Not too tough to figure out that the Obama camp, which is now the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, wants to kill this type of story before it gets legs. I don't doubt for a minute that its true and I built up as much anger at the Clintons as anyone over the past several months. But even I want to stop the Clinton bashing at this point, and I'm not known for giving up a grudge easily. It just doesn't serve any purpose - we all need her supporters in the tent pissing out at this point, not outside pissing in. I know a couple of Hillary supporters who are just incoherently sputtering mad at this point. I don't get it, but it doesn't matter. I want their votes. Continued insults to Hillary at this point, regardless of how justified, don't do any good.

You'll just have to wait until her next election to put a stake through her heart.

About the Tsongas business: a friend of his told me that when Tsongas called Clinton to let him know that he was dropping out, he asked him why he lied about him. Clinton's reply was, "Grow up. That's how the game is played."

While I do not agree with his political philosophy, sometimes George Will makes a cogent point. Here is how he ended a recent column on why Senator Obama should not pick Senator Clinton for the VP slot.

If you wish to read the entire column, here is the link to it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/clinton_vp_pick_would_diminish.html

Excerpted last lines:

Clinton, having risen politically in her husband's orbit, is a moon shining with reflected light. Were Obama to hitch himself to her, he would reduce himself to a reflection of a reflection.

It sounds like just like the Clintons, I'd be surprised if they didn't do something like this.

Hopefully he speaks up some more.

can we just turn the page on this bizarre, disgusting couple already? we've reached the point where a Democratic congressman can accuse a Democratic party leader of inciting friction between Jewish Americans and African Americans as a way to win an election, and it's a believable claim. how far have our standards gone?

enough.

Hillary's upcoming speech:

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/d/9/2/hillary-conceding-lk0606ad.jpg

Need to keep clintn out of the zpotlight. hopefully after today we will not be hearing much about them. people need to write to the 3 media outlets and tell them to shut the fuck up about sillary clinton. its over, she lost, it is time to move to the GE. she doesnt deserve anymore press. and she doesnt deserve to be vpotus either. good riddance.

While I don't doubt the Clinton's played the race & Jewish cards, Andrews in an weaselly asshole.

The campaign he ran against Lautenberg was despicable. For weeks he had various non-stop attack ads and then came an ad came stating he was the one being attack, which was such a bold face lie because there hadn't been a single ad from Lautenberg.

Each of his ads was very reminiscent of how John McCain says he "won't do this" or "won't do that" and then 5 seconds later does exactly what he said he wouldn't do.

I have no doubt he turned on the Clinton's as a means to jump on the Obama band wagon and as a way to have leadership (Pelosi, etc.) stand behind him while he tried to keep the seat he gave up in Congress to run for the Senate.

(maybe someone else can expand on that drama, but from what I remember, he technically gave up the seat but is not trying to keep t since he lost his run for the Senate?)

He's an asshole.

I am sorry but I am fed up with this "take everyone's word for anything" as long as it is anti Clinton. I hardly ever post here because no matter what you say if it isn't pro Obama you might as well get lost. Who says this man has any credibility after apparently running a divisive campaign against Lautenberg who just happens to be Jewish himself. This could be sour grapes for losing and a dig at him. And since when do anonymous sources take on such veracity or is it only because it is against Hillary, therefore it must be true. If this hatred continues as it is, then no matter what Hillary says Obama will never get the support he probably deserves with supporters like many who never seem to be able to talk him up only talk her down. Call me when it's time to vote and then I'll let you know then if Obama supporters have supported him or will continue to try and blame Clinton for anything and everything he might not be doing well with. If it comes down to the mantra of she isn't campaigning hard enough for him or supporting him enough and the HIllary hatred continues, then it will show me he doesn't deserve the Presidency when everyone has to make excuses for him. It will show me that Obama really deserves 4 more years in the Senate .

otto f

Woulda,Shoulda,Coulda,don't win races,FYI

Liam great quote,I heard it phrased differently.

Hillary wrapped herself in entitlement,and ran on experience...Bills,then skidded on oil(the gas tax holiday.)

Andrews should name names, and not just expect people to blindly believe his anonymous source.

Andrews needs to provide some specifics about his claim. Short of that, it just looks like a smear.

Moose49

I'm thinking terry and woflsonand Penn's partner Schoen.When Schoen told Hillary she need to go all out aganist Obama imo

IT'S BEEN SAID ,"THE ONLY WAY EVIL CAN PREVAIL,IS WHEN GOOD PEOPLE STAND BY AND DO NOTHING."

Why did he wait so long,when Bill was caught lying about useing race in S.Carolina,this info would've been right on time!

Moose49

I'm thinking terry and woflsonand Penn's partner Schoen.When Schoen told Hillary she need to go all out aganist Obama imo

IT'S BEEN SAID ,"THE ONLY WAY EVIL CAN PREVAIL,IS WHEN GOOD PEOPLE STAND BY AND DO NOTHING."

Why did he wait so long,when Bill was caught lying about useing race in S.Carolina,this info would've been right on time!

Andrews did, however, talk to Juan Melli of Blue Jersey.

Rob Andrews: "When you have a problem within a family, you better address it."

Andrews' story, which he revealed belatedly and apparently doesn't wish to substantiate with any verifiable details, smacks of sour grapes from a guy who mounted a really offensive primary advertising campaign attacking Lautenberg on grounds of his age. And while Pennsylvania has a fair number of Jews, they are not such a sizable. let along homegenous, voting bloc in that state that it would seem credible for Clinton to have made them a pivotal wedge in her primary campaign strategy. So, I don't believe Andrews' story for a moment.

You don't risk your life calling out the Clinton's without the chance of,how do I say this,
an "accidental voluntary sucide" like many others who got in their way. :) :)

Search youtube: the clinton chronicles 1-11,the mena connection,and Hillary the movie. Judge for yourself.