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Zogby: Obama Ahead In North Carolina, Edging Hillary In Indiana

This morning's Zogby tracking polls give Barack Obama a steady lead of nine points in North Carolina, and even a slight two-point edge in Indiana, within the margin of error there.

The numbers, compared to yesterday:

North Carolina
Obama 48% (+2)
Clinton 39% (+2)

Sample size: 600 likely primary voters, weighted for region, age, race and gender.
Margin of error: ±4.1%

Indiana
Obama 43% (+0)
Clinton 41% (-1)

Sample size: 595 likely primary voters, weighted for region, age, race and gender.
Margin of error: ±4.1%


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Eric sounds so disappointed. No worries, it's Zogby seeing Obama ahead, it's bound to be wrong.

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Eric sounds so disappointed. No worries, it's Zogby seeing Obama ahead, it's bound to be wrong.

I must not have my oh-God-Obama-is-being-attacked-dar. (Either that, or I have lost by snark-dar). I don't see anything in Eric's post that makes me think he is disappointed.

In any case though, you're right about Zogby. It's about as worthless me polling my neighbors.

Not so...Zogby's rolling polls just days before PA predicted undecideds breaking to Hillary, and Zogby was right on target (with 10, though) re: the primary results. But we've not yet seen Zogby's analysis about undecideds herein these two upcoming states. We must wait another day or so and see what other polls say. In the menatime, friends, get on those phonebanks today and call Indy and NC!!

after 2 weeks of Rev Wright and the PA loss, teflon BO is bouncing back right in time.

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He's going to win.

I think he'll win both states.


peace out til lata.

Let's have a celebratory party Tuesday night at around 9:00 pm EDT and call it "the end is near."

At that point I will change my avatar forever, which for those with super human vision is a photoshopped pic of the Wicked Witch (with HRC's face) watching the sand run out of the hourglass.

I'm pretty optimistic that Hillary will not be able to maintain her OH/PA margins in IN. If Obama wins IN, I'll be ecstatic. If he can just come within %5, however, it will empirically falsify Hillary's central justification for continuing to keep the focus off of neocon John and "his friend" W(orst).

"Obama frustrated, says wife, apparently because media is finally
asking pointed questions about his life:

Barack Obama is struggling to contain his anger and frustration over the constant barrage of questions about his character and judgment, his wife has revealed."

I guess he thought they were just hand over power.

He did it to himself and should have known wright was going to come out.

His judgement is terrible.

You can even see the keyboard after the many tears you've must have shed after Obama won Guam?

"Pacific News Center is reporting that the more than 500 uncounted ballots cast during the island's caucus Saturday may result in a recount, given Sen. Barack Obama's seven-vote victory."

She won Guam.

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Uh...read this, chump:

"These are unofficial, uncertified results as tabulated by the Democratic Party of Guam. The DPG also noted a high number of spoiled ballots in Dededo."

Dededo, Guam’s most populous village, was the Clinton stronghold and home to the traditional Democratic machine. Wanna bet for which candidate those spoiled ballots were marked?

Here's the source: http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/

I wouldn't be so hasty to call Guam for Hillary given which village the 500 "spoiled" votes came from. You might look like an awful fool when they do get recounted. Oh, I'm sorry - you already do!

No, it will she won.

And she wins both States Tuesday.

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Why don't you read this article, then, and tell me how much of a chance your girl has (translate: NONE!!!!)

http://www.slate.com/id/2190556/pagenum/all/#page_start

Of course you won't read it and you'll dismiss it with some of your bullshit, but I'm posting it anyway.

Yes! Yes! She won! She won all 50 states and all territories! The media is hiding this fact! That's because no one supports Obama! Let the truth come out finally! Hillary will be president!

Hillary 2016! Start campaigning early!!!!!

It will she won, indeed.

Dude. Get a grip.

It's.. Guam.

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And you know the results of the recount how?

In any event, Obama and Clinton each got two pledged delegates (as predicted on the spreadsheet), plus one new super for Obama, and that's not going to change, whatever happens to those spoiled ballots.

I guess he thought they were just hand over power.

No, that would be Hillary who thought that.

Get this through your head getalife: All this shit going down and Obama is on his feet and starting to move up in the polls not down.

Apparently, Joe Andrews, the prior DNC Chairman who came out for Obama recently, predicted today Obama would win both states...yikes! Either he's crazy to speak his mind or crazy like a fox...

Actually, his name is Joe Andrew, not Andrew.

Too much coffee, ladies and gentlemen...

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Or not enough...

Hah! So right...

As much as everyone loves to make of all these polls, the only thing they continue to prove to me is that neither candidate is moving much. (Yes, both Obama nd Hillary gain in states the lag as the vote approaches, why wouldn't they? They're both strong candidates appealing to different voters.)

Sure, there's a point here or there, but for all the fire and brimstone, there have been almost no shocking upsets or surprise defeats. (In terms of expectations.)

And, meanwhile, as McCain should be solidifying a lead that the Dems would have to chip away from, he too, doesn't move, capped at about 45 percent nationally.

The press loves this polls because the press loves instant controversy, doom and gloom, but really, it's only proving to me that each candidate's support is pretty static to the particular strengths and weaknesses of a particular region of the country and that Dems are gonna dominate in November.

ugh, bad writing on this sunday morning...

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bad typing, good writing

I'd find this very encouraging if not for the fact that Zogby polls aren't worth the electrons it takes to burn the numbers onto your monitor's screen. The only thing a Zogby poll is good for is is to counterbalance the the stupid of Insider Advantage's polls on Pollster.com's regression charts.

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That's worse because it make me excited about the average at pollster.com and disappointed on primary day.

Why do people want favorable polling? I want horrible polling and then to be happily surprised on primary day.

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Genghis, awesome shirt! Where can I get one? ;)

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It's a DF exclusive, from his spring collection, not available in stores.

Genghis -
I wonder how many epileptic seizures that shirt has caused this morning! :)

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You should have seen version 1. The color switching was on speed.

Oh, I did -- trust me, I had to look away!

Genghis,

4 alternatively consecutive (???) posts ?

I renounce and denounce (once again) your avatar pandering.

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Don't blame me. I want to talk about the issues that are important to working class Americans, but the media is obsessed with my shirt.

LOL

gotalife: "His judgement(sic) is terrible."

And apparently so is your spelling.

"One of her campaign advisors, Doug Hattaway, told Times reporter Noam Levey: "The Obama campaign seems bitter about sliding in the polls and they're clinging to these gas tax attacks."

Better?

Remember when the bitter remark was supposed to finish Obama's campaign ?
Do you know ANYONE who even remembers it ?

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You know, you must be the absolute winner on this site of non sequiturs. What in the hell are you talking about? You were responding to a post about your poor spelling and you post some ridiculous bullshit. And for about the millionth time, provide a cite for your quotes or don't post. No one wants to read plagiarized shit that you pretend is yours.

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Not quite. "Judgement" is not wrong, it's British English.

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Er..."judgement" is not a misspelling. It is a spelling variant and in fact is the original spelling and remains the standard British spelling of the word. "Judgment" only came about because some American lexiocraphy geek decided that some words needed to be "simplified" by dropping silent vowels. And it still looks wrong to me, because it chops off the last letter of the root word.

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Agreed, but in the U.S. the more accepted convention is "judgment". In my opinion it would be akin to using "theatre" or "colour". ;)

I have a pet peeve about spelling - almost a neurotic thing LOL!

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Yeah but...there's a phonetical reason for spelling it as "judgement" as well. Without the "e", you have no phonics cue to the sound of the "g". "G" followed by a consonant or nothing at all has the hard sound; "g" followed by "e" has the soft sound.

It's not really a pet peeve as much as something that I just think is the wrong way to spell it.

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Yep, point taken. English is very strange, isn't it? I don't know how anyone who is not a native English speaker ever learns to read, write and speak this language LOL! ;)

Zogby is a joke folks.

Unfortunately, I agree. But I doubt Senator Clinton is heading to a blow-out win, like she needs. The supers are getting anxious, from all indications, and wary of her tiresome campaign.

I'm thinking May 21st, but definitely June 4th. See you then, withoutalife.

She wins Indiana by 10 and NC by 2.

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-And how much behind does that leave her?

-Behind enough.

What the fuck, is this a sports matchup?

Hey, here's an idea. Why not be an adult along with the rest of us and wait for the result, instead of pulling uneducated projections out of your ass.

It's only a couple of days. I know you can do it.

He hit Pennsylvania on the nose!

Mr. Frank Rich take on McCain’s Reverend problem: The All-White Elephant in the Room

This Frank Rich column is excellent and well worth reading. Thanks for the link!

Thomas Friedman asks "Who Will Tell the People? in an article pronouncing:

I don't know if Barack Obama can lead that, but the notion that the idealism he has inspired in so many young people doesn't matter is dead wrong. "Of course, hope alone is not enough," says Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics, "but it's not trivial. It's not trivial to inspire people to want to get up and do something with someone else."

[snip]

It is especially not trivial now, because millions of Americans are dying to be enlisted -- enlisted to fix education, enlisted to research renewable energy, enlisted to repair our infrastructure, enlisted to help others. Look at the kids lining up to join Teach for America. They want our country to matter again. They want it to be about building wealth and dignity -- big profits and big purposes. When we just do one, we are less than the sum of our parts. When we do both, said Shriver, "no one can touch us.


It is more than having something against Tom Friedman, it is just that I don't have much for him. He was a bit off on Iraq; his sabbatical should continue for some time.

Tribune endorses Obama again.

We need a president who can forge consensus and compromise among ideological foes. Barack Obama is that kind of Democrat; Hillary Clinton is not.

In our original endorsement, we noted that "the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish Barack Obama." His performance in the three months since that editorial have only reinforced that opinion.

Indiana Democrats, your choice should be clear: Barack Obama.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/chi-0504edit1may04,0,1335140.story

I denounce and reject these liberal, elitist endorsements and call upon - no, I insist - Barack to do the same.

Obama's last victory was Miss.

Time to move on , bring on mcwar, Clinton will be President.

Get over it.

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OK, you're just getting pathetic now, like a little kid with his fingers in his ears screaming "I can't hear you" or "La La La La". I can't even get pissed at you - I just feel sorry for you because when reality sinks in you're going to be in bad shape.

Carol

I think you are making a mistake by answering all the nonsensical and non-sequitar posts of gotalife making the therad long unnecessarily.

Just ignore him, IMHO.

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You're probably right but it's a lot of fun! ;)

I, too, am having fun practising my French on trolls on the post on HRC's disgusting and shocking gun mailer. But, I gotta stop before it becomes addictive.

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His last victory was yesterday.

The race has been over since February, and the longer you pretend otherwise, the more your feelings will be deservedly hurt.

Oh no, you mean he won the contest before PA, and the one before that? And he won another yesterday, giving him 3 of the last 4 contests? We MUST give this nomination to HRC, she clearly has the momentum.

I wish and hope these numbers are true, but there are a fair number undecided. They usually break for Clinton. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Halperin:

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS UP

Hillary Clinton enthusiastically picked a filly named Eight Belles to win the Kentucky Derby and compared herself to the horse. Eight Belles finished second. The winner was the favorite, Big Brown. Eight Belles collapsed immediately after crossing the finish line, and was euthanized shortly thereafter.

http://thepage.time.com/

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Oh, snap! ;)

What I get from this is twofold...

1) Obama is probably going to win North Carolina by a large margin.

2) The race in Indiana is too close to call.

But given the recent circumstances surrounding Obama, the fact that he's staying ahead in Indiana is definitely a positive.

Something I'd like to point out, though... A lot of Clinton supporters and the MSM are trying to play up that Indiana is Obama's to lose. I don't understand how this could be, considering that he's consistently polled behind her.

http://www.pollster.com/08-IN-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

Obama's only been ahead a couple of times, and only by single digits. So how, I ask, is it Obama's to lose? It's Hillary's to lose. And if she does lose it, she needs to seriously consider rethinking why she's in this race.

Obama's appeal to working-class whites faltering, polls show

May 4, 12:09 AM (ET)

By ALAN FRAM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's problem winning votes from working-class whites is showing no sign of going away, and their impression of him is getting worse.

Those are ominous signals as he hopes for strong performances in the coming week in Indiana and North Carolina primaries that would derail the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton, his rival for the Democratic presidential nomination. Those contests come as his candidacy has been rocked by renewed attention to his volatile former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and by his defeat in last month's Pennsylvania primary.

In an Associated Press-Yahoo News poll in April, 53 percent of whites who have not completed college viewed Obama unfavorably, up a dozen percentage points from November. During that period, the numbers viewing Clinton and Republican candidate John McCain negatively have stayed about even.

The April poll - conducted before the Pennsylvania contest - also showed an overwhelming preference for Clinton over Obama among working-class whites. They favored her over him by 39 percentage points, compared to a 10-point Obama lead among white college graduates. Obama also did worse than Clinton among those less-educated voters when matched up against Republican candidate John McCain.

"It's the stuff about his preacher ... and the thing he said about Pennsylvania towns, how they turn to religion," Keith Wolfe, 41, a supermarket food stocker from Parkville, Md., said in a follow-up interview. "I don't think he'd be a really good leader."

Just before the Pennsylvania primary, Obama said many small-town residents are bitter about their lives and turn for solace to religion and guns.

Recent voting patterns underscore Obama's continued poor performance with these voters, who are often pivotal in general election swing states like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

In Democratic primaries held on or before Super Tuesday, Feb. 5, whites who have not finished college favored the New York senator by a cumulative 59 percent to 32 percent, according to exit polls of voters conducted for The Associated Press and the television networks.

In primaries since Feb. 5, that group has favored Clinton by 64 percent to 34 percent. That includes Ohio and Pennsylvania, in which working-class whites have favored Clinton by 44 and 41 percentage points respectively.

The AP-Yahoo poll shows less educated whites present a problem to Obama in part because of who they are. Besides being poorer, they tend to be older than white college graduates - and Clinton has done strongly with older white voters.

Terry Madonna, a political science professor at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa., said Obama lost among working-class whites in the state because his message of how this generation's time has come did not address their economic needs.

"While it's incredibly motivating and passionate and compelling, it lacks content," Madonna said. "Hillary would come in and relate to them, talk about the specifics of her policy."

"Those contests come as his candidacy has been rocked by renewed attention to his volatile former pastor..."

"Renewed attention"?!? What crap. It is the media types like Fram who "renewed" the attention! The public is concerned about real issues: the economy, Iraq, health care, etc. I love how the media fails time and time again to take any blame. See George Stephanopolus and Tim Russert as other classic examples.

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By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only (AND FOR ME)

On the theory, I guess, that one of his darts might possibly hit a target, the charlatan pundit who claims to be a pollster, John Zogby, tells us Pennsylvania is a tie (Let me add that if Zogby were actually a pollster, this finding would not be particularly newsworthy in that the movement from his previous poll (Clinton down 2, Obama up 1) is well within the MOE. It is not a surprising finding. But I know that Zogby is a charlatan and he just makes the numbers up by manipulating his turnout model.)

The race might indeed be a tie but I am sure John Zogby has no idea if it is or if it is not. He is a charlatan. But I do thank him for giving me another chance to call him one. After his disappearance after his humiliating exposure this campaign season, I thought I might not get such a chance again.

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Depending on Zogby for infomation is very iffy at best: This from just before the Pa Primary....by the way I went to post about the Pa. primary and it had Clinton winning 60 out of 67 counties...YIKES!

A few days before the PA primary Zogby had Obama Ahead:
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By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only

On the theory, I guess, that one of his darts might possibly hit a target, the charlatan pundit who claims to be a pollster, John Zogby, tells us Pennsylvania is a tie (Let me add that if Zogby were actually a pollster, this finding would not be particularly newsworthy in that the movement from his previous poll (Clinton down 2, Obama up 1) is well within the MOE. It is not a surprising finding. But I know that Zogby is a charlatan and he just makes the numbers up by manipulating his turnout model.)

The race might indeed be a tie but I am sure John Zogby has no idea if it is or if it is not. He is a charlatan. But I do thank him for giving me another chance to call him one. After his disappearance after his humiliating exposure this campaign season, I thought I might not get such a chance again.

I for one am not willing to let the election be decided solely by uneducated white men. Look what a good job they did the last two elections.

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