Terry McAuliffe: Hillary Can Drink John McCain Under The Table!
Looks like Hillary top adviser Terry McAuliffe is really upping the ante when it comes to Hillary's ability to throw back shots with the best of 'em.
Hillary, of course, famously downed a shot of whiskey in the run-up to the voting in Pennsylvania, and today, with Hillary's efforts to court blue collar voters at full throttle, McAuliffe expanded a bit on Hillary's affection for tossing 'em back...
McAuliffe, asked whether her shot-tossing is phony, replied that "she loves to sit, throw 'em back," adding that "she actually beat John McCain in a shot contest. She's a girl from Illinois who likes to throw 'em down with the rest of us."
Hmmm. A bit of an embellishment? Here's the original anecdote, as reported by The New York Times, that appears to be the basis of this:
Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well -- memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much -- that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. "One of the guys" was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues.
McCain subsequently kinda sorta denied it had happened, though he also did say that "it's been 50 years since I'd been in a drinking game," adding that "she can really hold her liquor."
Unclear whether there's any evidence that she won, though.
Comments (151)
What doesn't McCain deny these days?
May 6, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillery is just a downhome country girl who likes herself some whiskey. She's drinks whiskey while Obama drinks little-girly OJ, like a little whiny baby.
Who you gonna trust? A pick-up drivin', whiskey drinkin' hot mamma, or little whiny OJ sipping Obama who can't even bowl?
Nuff said. Hillery has got this thing in the bag. Obama will withdraw in a tiny little ball in the fetal position when he cries himself to sleep at 3:00 AM tonight after losing NC and IN while the phone rings, and rings, and rings...
May 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you need your comments to be effective why not learn to spell her name?
May 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're missing the snark ...
May 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary 08!!!!!!! Like Shooting Ducks with a six-shooter.
May 6, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary! She'll be drunk when the call comes in at 3AM.
May 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least Bush was a dry drunk. Hillary's still sopping wet!
Maybe that's where her memories of Tuzla came from...
May 6, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, vote for Hillary because she's a lush. This is so incredibly stoopid.
May 6, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's just a sign of how pathetic Bush is that after eight years of a teetotaler (albeit a former alcoholic and cokehead) in the White House, having a lush as president actually looks like an improvement.
Though as the parent of teenage daughters, I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea of a binge-drinking woman in the White House. Some role model, eh?
Of course, what's most appalling is the idea of a Zelig in the White House who has no core principles and no sense of self and just becomes whatever and whoever Mark Penn tells her the audience wants her to be.
May 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dukakis in a tank
Kerry hunting
Gore in earth tones
Sadly having candidates uncomfortable in their own skin, and trying to remake themselves for the electorate has been one of the Democratic Party chief failings.
We liked Bill Clinton precisely because he was in fact part Bubba. His gluttony, and loutishness, and aw shucks back slapping was who is was. None of those qualities made him a good president, on the contrary, but at least they were authentic.
Hillary is not Bill.
And since when do Wellesley graduates just aspire to be one of the boys..... ugh.
May 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly why Obama is the strongest possible Democratic nominee. Because he's not any of these things.
May 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. Too bad he's in bed with Hamas
May 6, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perfect cue for the Halloween SNL skit:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/23117/1/SNL-Obama-Hillary.wmv/
May 6, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Slow news day?
You must be able to do better than this.
May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think so, wouldn't you?
May 6, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
A contest between being fickle or pickled.
May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
They think so little of the American public and especialy the Democratic Party! Lets see if they are right.
May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heavy drinking may explain her propensity to lie.
May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
it's official. there are now three men running for office.
May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Survey USA's final poll, which has Clinton up 12%, shows her leading among women by a 60-38 margin.
I'll drink to that:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_UQPUzwdX51o/SAGBAm9YsPI/AAAAAAAAAHU/qtpQt3Gntao/s1600-h/r-HILLARY-DRINKING-huge1.jpg
May 6, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I'll drink to that:"
You'll have enough time to abuse that troll liver of yours when Obama is the democratic nominee - which is a given.
May 6, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
[Rim-shot]
May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalief called it. I've said it. Hillery herself has said it over and over.
Hillery is going to win IN by more than 10% tonight. She's going to win NC as well.
Obama is toast with glass of OJ. Hillery is the real deal.
May 6, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still trying to recover the Leading Troll status that is becoming ever more elusive of late, Gotalife treats the TPM audience to a touching multi-scene performance confronting the ravages of alcoholism and addiction in these Desperate Hours of the modern era. Given the recent bumps in this once-great performer's road lately, he's certainly counting on a Nick Cage Leaving Las Vegas angle to push himself back to center stage and career relevancy again, yet it sadly comes across with less flair and more of a Nick Cave Johnny Suede feel.
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Troll Rating: 23
May 6, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You slay me - honestly you do! ;)
May 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are two contests going down today, is this really being reported on by TPM? I mean I could understand it if you were putting it up as an example of how idiotic the Clinton campaign is, but really?
May 6, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I'm sure it's being reported all over the MSM today as well.
May 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most IMPORTANT contest going on today is the battle for Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With. At least SOMEBODY has their priorities straight.
May 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess in Hillary's case she thinks the contest is "Somebody who'd most likely want to have a beer".
That is why she is trying so hard to win. And here all this time I though she wanted to be president.
May 6, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were married to Bill, I'd be drinking heavily too.
May 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen to that.
May 6, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think its the other way around!
May 6, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, since I'm a woman, it's easier to envision being married to Bill rather than Hillary. Let me think about it for a minute. Ok, now that vision is ingrained in my head and I can't get it out! I need a drink.
May 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"One of the guys" is right. One of the Republican guys.
May 6, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just shoot me.
Wasn't it about a month ago that Clinton's argument was this: THIS ELECTION ISN'T ABOUT WHO YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A BEER WITH. IT'S ABOUT WHO'S GOT THE SOLUTIONS.
Will no one in the media point out that the Clinton campaign appears to be executing a massive flip-flop?
And reinforcing the image that Hillary Clinton will say, and do, just about anything to get elected?
Obama? Please win in Indiana today and shut this nonsense down, once and for all.
May 6, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
From your post to voters ballots!!!!! :)
May 6, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, at least Terry McAuliffe is owning up to his alcoholism. That's good to see.
May 6, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
O. My. God.
Why is this supposed to be admirable? We have an alcoholic president and vice president now - how has that worked out?
I don't believe this - this is so stupid I'm at a loss
May 6, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like to throw a few back every now and again, too. But I sure as hell don't pick my president based on how much s/he can drink (nor do I pick my doctor, lawyer, economist, teacher, or any other meaningful profession based on ability to hold liquor). This is just pitiful.
Hillary for President ... of AA!
May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why in the holy fucking hell are we supposed to vote for someone because she likes to sit around and throw em back?
Why?
why?
Why?
May 6, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because this demonstrates that Hillary Clinton, graduate of Wellesley and Yale, wife of a governor and president, Senator from New York, resident of one of the wealthiest areas in NY State, is, in fact, just one a the girls, er, boys.
And again, just remember that it was Hillary who said repeatedly "This election shouldn't be about who we'd like to have a beer with".
I'd like to paraphrase that: "This election shouldn't be about who can do shooters better than anyone else".
May 6, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
They think the American Public is stupid (Hrc campaign)...They are betting people are Dumb! Thats why
May 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's next? "I have a bigger dick than McCain or Obama."?
May 6, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats pretty much what Carville and that afl-cio(?) said...
OK, so there is lots of talk about her balls, not her dick. Big diff...
Eeeww. I feel gross. I have to take a shower....
p.s. did they have fraternities at Wellesley???
May 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
so John - I take it you got up close and personal with the wedding tackle, like Carville.
She has 3 balls, huh?
please just shoot me. please. I cannot believe this is where we are.
This has set women back 50 goddamn years at least..
May 6, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, well, the vodka lobby is loving this!
Hillary's message to women: to get elected, ya need to shoot, hunt, drink, and have three balls.
Excellent advice!
May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You cut and run from your gender and have the audacity to spew she set your gender back?
Have you no shame?
May 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irony much?
May 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Cut and run'?
Cut and run?
Republican much, gotalife?
May 6, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
he can't help it. he's really trying hard to appear as a hillary supporter here, but his true self can't help but inadvertently reveal itself here over and over. he simply types too fast to stay in character 100% of the time
May 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Amid heavy turnout, Republicans appeared to be crossing over in droves today in Marion County and suburban counties, where fewer Republican voters might impact down-ticket primary races."
I'll drink to that.
May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'll drink to everything, apparently. No wonder Hill's your gal.
May 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems you already have.
Repeatedly and with gusto.
Meheheheh.
May 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I'll drink to that. "
Here's something to drink to, I'd warn you about killing yourself afterwards - but you'd probably still be a troll and fuck that up too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-carmichael/the-firewall-obama-wins-n_b_100269.html
May 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Terry?
May 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, how do you know they are crossing over for Hillary?
May 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
because he's one of them, and he's hoping there are millions more like him
May 6, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, according to the article humanity-critic linked to you and the rest of Flush Limbaugh's brain dead dittoheads are not going to make any difference.
May 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This explains the function of the tres cojones. Vodka storage.
May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a Native Illinoisian (because, you know, Hillary's the only person with any colerable claim to that state who's running for President this year), I have to say I'm puzzled by the amounts of cultural projection that have been superimposed on my erstwhile home state. Park Ridge, Hillary's hometown, ain't exactly the rough side of the tracks, and I'd personally be v. v. surprised if Hillary so much as touched a drop of Old Spotted Hen before going to college (again, at the great blue collar bulwark Wellesley College).
May 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a Native Illinoisian (because, you know, Hillary's the only person with any colerable claim to that state who's running for President this year), I have to say I'm puzzled by the amounts of cultural projection that have been superimposed on my erstwhile home state. Park Ridge, Hillary's hometown, ain't exactly the rough side of the tracks, and I'd personally be v. v. surprised if Hillary so much as touched a drop of Old Spotted Hen before going to college (again, at the great blue collar bulwark Wellesley College).
May 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Compared to Niles, Park Ridge is (dare I say) elitist.
May 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this has ANY relevance to fitness as a candidate, the race, or being POTUS how?
WTF Greg, if I want to read stupid gossip and second-hand fabrication I could easily read Us, The Globe or National Inquirer.
This is what you waste our time with?
This is being substantive?
May 6, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg is busy downing shots with her right now. He can't hear you.
May 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
(mind drifting back in time)
Used to live in Wheeling (on the edge of Buffalo Grove) back in the day.
May 6, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doh... this was meant to be in reply to Minjo Hussein Prius above.
May 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just come out of your very poorly hidden closet as the republican "Operation Chaos" troll that you are!
May 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry that was for Gotalife.
May 6, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Take off your tin foil hat.
I support Clinton. Period.
May 6, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
liar. your comments are too aggressive and obnoxious for dem on dem. you say too many nice things about republicans. your avatars are far too offensive.
I have debated hillary supporters here, and they were mostly decent people. you, sir, are not decent and not a hillary supporter.
your sheepskin is wearing thin and we can see the republican wolf underneath
May 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've noticed how all of the real Clinton supporters seem to be avoiding this thread…
I think even they are disgusted by this!
May 6, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cut and Run gotalife who actually cites Littlegreenfootballs to support one of his insane talking points one day.
No, he's/she's no Republican.
May 6, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yes -- they think they are soooo clever as they amuse themselves here.
And when the good folks at TPM stop responding to fogu, gotalife, kefa, etc as if they were real Hillary supporters, we'll all be better off.
They're repug wolves in hillary clothing. Notice how gotalife always seems to have his finger on the pulse of repug talking points.
May 6, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will vote for that. This merry-go-round is getting to be annoying.
May 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
She did win the drinking contest with McCain. What did she win? McCain's copy of Rove's Play Book for NeoCons. Instead of turning it over to Dean she's using it.
May 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice post post Greg.
I will drink with the Clintons anytime.
Cheers.
May 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's good. I reckon the Clinton's will have a lot of free time here soon to drink it up with you, after she fails to steal the primary, and destroys her husbands legacy.
May 6, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
and they can invite their true hero mccain over after he goes down too
May 6, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Cut and run" from your gender?
Tena, did you hear that? You gender traitor, you!!
Oh. I guess I am, too.
I think need to do shots.
May 6, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I'm another one of those 'traitors'. Women voting for matching genitalia is just sexism in a skirt. Vote for the candidate, not the pink bits.
May 6, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah but if you so much as mention your little black dress, gotalife is gonna climb all over your race-baiting ass.
May 6, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Black dress? Hell, I'm a black cat! Come and get it, gotalife!
May 6, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Terry is a bit nervous today. It's the ninth inning and he can't take the nerves. She has to hit a really long ball for a "game changer."
She's up. Here comes the pitch.
May 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, at least W went to AA before running. Here we are not even in step 1.
May 6, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Technically I agree with you,
But anyone who doesn't think Bush is drinking is nuts. He's been drinking heavily for at least 3 years - it takes one to know one and I can spot it 20 miles off.
May 6, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey. Aren't there 12 steps in the program? Counting, numbers --well, you know -- not a big strength for Bush.
May 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
He prolly got confused about what comes after 6 and decided to forget the whole thing.
May 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton is the anti-feminist. She's totally bought into the swaggering, posturing, who's got the biggest dick school of political thought.
High school is over. The macho guy who won all the drinking games now has a beer belly, diabetes and high blood pressure and gets winded walking across his used car lot.
So let's all get over the drinking games and start voting like grown ups.
May 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
has a beer belly, diabetes and high blood pressure
Hey, I've seen that guy on TV!
He does the *Levitra commercials...
*(Not that he has a dissatisfied partner, you understand...he uses them as part of his monthly prostate hygiene maintenance program)
May 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary actually just famously sipped a shot of whisky.
Sure, it's nitpicking about something that doesn't matter, but things like this are how "I invented the Internet" or "Who amongst us does not love Nascar" bogus stories get spread.
I'd hope that a media watch dog like Mr. Sargent would take care not to fall into these types of media shorthand references which actually bend -- or in some cases invent -- the truth.
May 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Big college drug bust today.
No wonder they vote for Obama.
May 6, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just for fun and just cause I want to and feel like it - let me tell you the difference between pot and booze -
booze is toxic - it's actually poisonous. That's why you get hangovers and you
May 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, I adore you.
May 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I accidentally hit a key and that comment posted while I was in midtype -
anyway - you can't OD on marijuana. Maybe on pure THC, but not on marijuana.
It's not addictive, it doesn't cause cirrhosis of the liver - ever known anyone who died of that? I have. Ugliest death ever seen.
Alcohol works on the part of the brain that increased aggression and decreases social controls. That's why every single one of the several thousand felons I represented on appeal was drunk when he did the crime.
Every single one.
May 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
you can't OD on marijuana...Ugliest death ever
Apparently you have never seen the tragic police photos of death by Double Rainbow overdose secondary to BC Bud ingestion...The body is frequently surrounded by up to thirty empty quart containers...not a pretty picture, not pretty at all...
May 6, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I gotta go poopy.
May 6, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hm. A couple weeks ago, it was how high your bowling score was and if you preferred coffee over orange juice. Now it's about how much vodka you can pound?
I'm sure Newsweek will have a feature on the "Vladi Gap" that Obama is suffering from any day now.
May 6, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really wonder how this primary season would've been different had she decided to portray herself as a woman and a mother rather than an androgynous Thatcherbot.
May 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word up! That's a good one. I am absolutely disgusted by her, and as a feminist I am appalled at her behavior. As Tena said above, she has set women back about 50 years at least. This is disgraceful behavior and if this is the way she thinks women have to behave to play with the big boys I feel very, very sorry for her when she learns that her behavior has become the biggest stumbling block to her ambitions. My God - now we're actually celebrating being a drunk and being able to drink a man under the table? She has a surrogate say she's got a set of cojones? Even GW had the good sense to downplay the drinking thing when he was running for office. She has absolutely no fucking common sense at all and she is a horror show at this point.
May 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought we went through the "Looking Glass" into Wonderland with bush! But hillary's behavior and her campaign are simply stretching the envelope here to the point of absurdity.
It's like watching one of those existential absurdist dramas from the 60's. Like something unmoored from reality. Nuclear option! Destroy OPEC! Testicular female wrestler! Shooter and shot slinger!
Is there some kind of deranged lunatic strategy here? Or are they simply shooting a prequel to a breakdown, knowing that she will not be president?
It's like some kind of frat hazing event gone terribly wrong!
I'm running out of metaphors, but honestly, even from the perspective of a shrink... this really is strange to watch!
May 6, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not a Clinton supporter, but what is sad about these attempts to be something that she isn't is that they just diminish her dignity and substance.
No matter what the issue, Clinton's stand on it is going to be suspect, because of this brazen (and nutty) pandering.
And nice to hear from you, TheraP!
May 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely! And that is what baffles the heck out of me!
Why go to such lengths to make yourself look this bad???
I'm paying attention. And commenting judiciously only. But thanks for the kind words. I see and enjoy your posts!
May 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just said all for me in that comment.
My jaw has been on the floor for a week at least. I really and truly cannot believe this - it is surreal. It's like a fucking conceptual art piece and I never did like that genre.
May 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
More excellent metaphors!
Pretty soon we'll have an off-off-broadway event going!
A flop, by the way!
May 6, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink