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Rules Committee Officially Rejects Full Voting Strength For Florida
As expected, the motion to fully seat the Florida delegation according to the results of the January rogue primary has gone down in defeat, following a brief formal debate.
The vote tally: 12 votes in favor, 15 opposed. The committee is now proceeding to debate on a compromise motion that would seat the delegates at half-voting strength, which is expected to carry the day.
The vote was followed by chants of "Denver! Denver!" from a contingent of Clinton supporters in the audience.
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YES WE DENVER!
May 31, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!
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May 31, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
FOR AMERICA!!!
May 31, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Denver my ass..
May 31, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
12-15 split, but unanimous on the half vote motion.
FL settled.
May 31, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish the Chairs would take control of this meeting and shut the audience up.
May 31, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just depressing. How will Clinton put the genie back in the bottle? Does she care to? There are already so many of her backers whipped up in anger to vote McCain in the general. How can she and her campaign only see one side of an argument? Do they really believe all they say? Are they saying they will destroy everything if they don't get their way?
Only the Democrats.......
May 31, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, the RBC Committee has impressed me. A unanimous vote, Ickes included, for the compromise to seat the full Florida delegation with 1/2 votes...distribution as per election results. I'm not happy with this distribution, but although it's not fair to those who didn't vote in Florida, it is pragmatic.
May 31, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Full pledged and unpledged delegates for Florida at 1/2 vote each passed unanimously. Thank god.
Whoever made the first statement on the 1/2 Florida delegation vote motion did a really wonderful job. She responded perfectly to heckling from the crowd. Something along the lines of, "don't you believe in democracy [to Clinton demonstrators]? The full vote failed, and this resolution [half vote for delegates] is a reasonable compromise, and I urge an aye vote." Wonderful
May 31, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was Stephanie Tubbs Jones, outspoken Clinton supporter
May 31, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it was Alice Huffman, who proposed the 100% motion...
May 31, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone watch. Harold Ickes is about to piss all over the Democratic party again!!!
What a swell guy.
May 31, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
As they are discussing MI, its obvious now that Hillary wont get what she wanted. Her concession will be next week Wed or Thur.
May 31, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
69/59 will pass.
May 31, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lanny is going to cry.
May 31, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I talking out my ass?
You bet your ass I'm talking out my ass.
May 31, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check! (As in the game of Chess. MI will be Check-Mate.)
May 31, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Harold Ickes a sniveling, hypocritical, power hungry, obnoxious, divisive, uncaring, sleezeball? You bet your ass he is.
May 31, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did i just hear right? Did Lanny say the MI vote going to the credentials committee? WTF is Hillary thinking? That can not be allowed to happen.
May 31, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was Harold Ickes (unless Davis repeated that just now somewhere), and yes he did say that they reserve the right to take this onto the Credentials Committee. That was just to rile up the bitter-enders in the room to increase the appearance of a hopelessly split party. It doesn't matter at this point. Ickes has lost the votes he needs on the committee to punt Michigan further down the line and Obama has gotten everything he needs to move on to the general unabated. Clinton can take this one to the Credentials Committee, but she has lost the party.
May 31, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC officially declared the Clinton Machine dead
Guess they didn't get the news in the room or maybe Rachel Madow is right
Looks like Obama and his supporters will have to stop being gracious and "slap the Clintons down" once and for all.
The Clintonistas will behave.
They will learn to keep civil tongues in their heads
or
There will be blood
May 31, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ickes currently spewing spin, hate and victimhood, undoubtedly as foundation for appeal... phrasing includes "hijacking, first amendment, not the way to party unity, blah, blah,.... and -- of course -- announcement that HRC has authorized Ickes to take "issue" to Credentials Committee. AAHHHGHH.
May 31, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
They can take it to the credentials committee; there will be too many supers on Obama's side for it to matter. She has lost all credibility. Ickes last statement about her authorizing it to be taken to the convention ended all hope. The supers wont sit around with all of this divisiveness.
In other news, this makes me SO SO SO SO SO SO happy that we didn't get stuck with these people running the country.
May 31, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you said "spin", you nailed it. Ickes' concept of "fair reflection" nonsense is exactly that. The election in Michigan, by no stretch of the imagination, a fair reflection of the will of the people of Michigan at that time.
May 31, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton supporters are embarrassing themselves.
May 31, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
They want it all and they want it NOW!
May 31, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
They have a couple of individual clowns who are trying to lead the room into chaos. It's pretty sickening to watch, and if I was a Clinton supporter, I'd be embarrassed.
May 31, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 31, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton supporters claim to know the will of the voters of Michigan, but despite Elizabeth Smith's comments to the contrary, we don't.
May 31, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is probably really unfair, since we haven't seen Clinton's response, but based off of Ickes reaction, suddenly that crazy priest guy isn't seeming all that crazy.
May 31, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's response will be to leave her options for the convention in play. Her options are only for her to win! All her past beaviors have demestrated that. The only reliable measure of future behavior is past behavior. Ask any therapist. Her people represented their case poorly and certainly in the face of the reality of the party's best interest. Please SD's come and finish her off. Let Tuesady's night party in MN be for all of the party.
May 31, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, well, they represented her case poorly, because there really wasn't a case. And there certainly isn't a case for an appeal. She can push it if she chooses to, but it will just look like sour grapes and there's really no one in the Party who's in the mood to entertain that at this point. The rest of the country is moving on - Hillary can hop on or be left behind.
May 31, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nickity-pick, pickity-nick. Eric be gettin tired:
Simple majority. Dat 2/3 vote woulda been needed to stop debatin an fillybusterin. But they wuz all seein the handwringin on da wall, an
wuz all talked-out anyhoo, so diddn need 2/3 to tells em to shaddup an vote.
May 31, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahem. My client was sitting on the pot at the time, so naturally he was talking out of his ass. I think he meant to express an apology when he asked me to say on his behalf, "Pfbbbt!"
May 31, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The parliamentary language got a bit confusing there. I have edited the post to remove the 2/3 reference
May 31, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink